What was the most retarded decision in Disney history?
>>217789406Bob Iger deciding to buy companies
Killing blue sky
>>217789406>”2d animation is bad because it’s expensive and takes forever”>13 years later>3d animation takes even longer and is apparently abhorrently expensiveI don’t get it. What happened?
https://animatedviews.com/2013/mike-disa-and-the-seven-dwarfs-how-the-snow-white-prequel-became-a-dopey-movie/Bit of a read. But a fascinating tale of a passion project killed by corporate meddling.
>>217789453Progress, Luddite.
>>217789406Going woke.
Why do chuds hate 3D animation so much?
>>217789585It's weird because they also like Star Wars The Clone Wars. I think the chuds just don't like disney/pixar 3d
>>217789453They did a bunch of focus group testing to find the perfect character design standard, and it got skewed because Aardman was in there and audiences love claymation even if it looks abysmally ugly because it at least has some passion in it, so they made their own in-house ripoff and now they're shocked that it didn't work in 3DCGI
>>217789585Steve Jobs died 15 years ago
>>217789458good read anon; but not surprising in any capacity unfortunately.>>217789585it's easier and more accessible by the untalented so the quality ratio of kino/goyslop goes way down.>>217789613source or is this a theory?
>>217789585Because it's outsourced to India instead of Japan and Korea
>>217789406putting up with female influence and leadership in the executive suite, it's been an unmitigated disaster that has had wildly negative wide ranging socioeconomic and worldwide political effects
>>217789453Nothing happened, they're just lying that 3d animation is more expensive and takes longer so they can cook the production budget books.
>>217790179Is that the narrative now that people know the film budgets
>>217789452it came back as twitter for liberals
>>217789453normgroids will show up for a 3D animated movie but not a 2D one. If anyone gave a shit about 2D animation in any significant amount someone would have eaten Disney's lunch by now, it's been like 20 years since Princess and the Frog.
>>217789406Doorman phalacy
>>217789645who the hell is Steve Jobs?
>>217790386Ligma Balls
>>217789453They can shit out five 3D movies in the time it takes to hand animate one 2D. That's why anime seasons used to take forever until they started cheating with 3D animation.
>>217790375it's spelled "fallusy"
>>217790372Ripping off Disney is pretty hard. Warner Bros tried to become the new Disney for two decades straight starting in 1983 and every single attempt, without exception, was a tremendous flop. The only one that even matched its budget with box office numbers was Quest for Camelot. Don Bluth managed to make it work through the 80s by working at the company for years.
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>>217790460Disney did it first with CAPS in the 80's and it worked well.
The gears in The Great Mouse Detective were traced from CGI. This means nobody should ever make a 2D animated film ever again and you should also ignore the recent string of Disney 3DCG originals that were all record breaking flops.
>>217789406The only 3d animation I like is stop motion
>>217790662They used it for coloring frames. Far cry from the slop they do now.
>>217790448Kek
i just hate digital animation in general. 2d. 3d. i think it looks like shit if its digitally animated. cel only purist here
2D animation has been financially underperforming since the 90's. You can cry about "SOUL" all you want, but the audience votes with their wallet and it's been clear for decades about that's what the majority of people actually want.
>>217789458>Walt didn't want sequels to his classics.NuDisney really is the opposite of everything he was.
>>217791467See >>217790260
>>217791587What am I supposed to be seeing? That 3D movies are disproportionally profitable compared to 2D movies just like I said? lol.
>>217790931And compositing, effects and various 3D shots. Most of the "slop" in anime is still just badly tweened hand drawn animation by some outsourced korean sweatshop.
>>217791640Over the past decade only the sequels have been profitable, and never even close to the ratio of the best 2D films. The originals have been a string of the biggest animated flops of all time.
Letting J.J. Abrams direct two numbered Star Wars movies is probably up there.
>>217789585It should be possible to have both; the fact they just gave up on 2D to focus exclusively on 3D is lame and shows a lack of ambition
>>217789585I mean, they hate the 2D vs 3D debate because it distracts people from the story about how wokeness ruined Pixar. It's clearly not 3D artists barging in to defend their jobs because 90% of the argument is that 3DCGI requires zero human effort and costs absolutely nothing to make.
>>217790130Having a tranny kid is like having a "vegan" cat; you know for a fact that the cat didn't consent to that. That pedophile bitch should have her ovaries torn out with garden shears
>>217789458Good share thanks anon, reading with my morning cafe
>>217789453Whenever those in power do something that is both 1. More expensive and 2. Lower quality you can bet your ass their only motivation is to humiliate the goyim.
>>217790372>Princess and the Frog.And that flopped because it was 2D riiiiight...
>>217789406Buying Star Wars, it had already been ruined and was irrecoverable.
>>217789453Competency crisis. The Nine Old Men are spinning in their graves.
>The Mandalorian and Grogu>Toy Story 5>Moana (live action)>Avengers: Doomsday>Star Wars: Starfighter>Avengers: Secret War>Frozen III>Incredibles 3>Coco 2>Tangled (live action)>Bambi (live action CGI)>Robin Hood (live action CGI)>Gaston (live action sequel)>Frozen IV>Prince Charming (live action sequel)>Princess Diaries 3>Hercules (live action)>Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi>The Simpsons movie 2>Hocus Pocus 3>Cruella 2>Lilo & Stitch 2 (live action)>Avatar 4>Avatar 5
>>217790260Ever since 2001 there's been nothing but non-stop slop.
>>217789613Literally soul vs soulless
>>217789406>>217789406Any website with relative timestamps is made for retarded.
>>217789453Like with every industry, they probably keep their number of skilled staff to an absolute minimum and outsource everything they possibly can to Indian/Korean animation houses who will do rush jobs for cheap. If they actually paid western wages and doubled the number of animators they have, it wouldn't take as long
>>217789453they went all in when 3dcg took off and they saw how much easier it is to adjust, change, remove, add things to it without having to rely on a specific group of animators to be able to do it, However they put themselves in a new hole when they kept chasing the graphic high now they are building specific engines and technique to create lint on clothing and individual stitch patters that 99.99999% of people who watch their shit wont ever notice and then on top of that all the normal issues of making an animated movie but now they have to spend more money for the army of cg programmers to add useless crap. But i guess it takes up less storage than having a bunch of papers?
>>217792943>Any website with relative timestamps is made for retarded.Saar
>>217789458The conversation where the execs wanted the director to give Dopey emotional trauma and kill his mother in the opening scene while simultaneously complaining that his treatment was "too dark" and needed more wacky comedy made me laugh out loud.
>>217790372>If anyone gave a shit about 2D animation in any significant amount someone would have eaten Disney's lunch by now, it's been like 20 years since Princess and the Frog.Japs
>>217793074For me, it's>Just kill his mom in the middle of a comedy bit, the kids won't notice what's happening.
>>217793037Yeah, I really don't understand their drive to keep making models and textures more complex and expensive. No one watching Ratatouille was asking for higher fidelity. They already perfected the aesthetic long ago and to do something like that today would have to be pretty damn cheap compared to what they're making.
>>217789406People dont talk about this but Iger moved the 2D animated film Winnie the Pooh to the same day as Harry Potter Deathly Hallows Part 2 and then said nobody wants 2D animation anymore as he laid off everyone.
>>217793254They can't let themselves plateau because the only leg up they have over illumination, Dreamworks, Sony, and all of the small 3D companies is the production quality. The writing fell off a decade ago and the soundtracks are all licensed pop music.
>>217789406dying
3D is more attractive to kids, which are after all the main audience for these movies (and their parents who have to take them to the cinema)Its as simple as that, sadly
>>217791699and you believe this is because 3d as a technique is too expensive, and not because of other factors like inferior vision, design or storytelling? or are you just spouting random garbage?
>>217793319No, see>>217793267
>>217789585Mostly down stream of them having 3D use in anime. Because the Japs tend to be pretty terrible at it. There are very few companies in Japan that can do competent 3D CGI, Studio Orange, Transistor Studio, Graphinica, among the few.
american 2D animation rested on the training of the WPAif you can get cherrypicking access to a vastly overproduced pool of labor trained at the taxpayer's expense then you can make quite a good product indeedthese commie programs thankfully ended long ago, sadly replaced by new commie programs
>>217791667Nice try pajeet
>>217793336The novelty of 3D has finally worn off, audiences expect any new 3DCG franchise to be garbage, and all it's good for nowadays is milking established IPs. Even if they make something good, nobody will give it a chance.
>>217789458As far as direct to dvd cash grabs go, the original plan sounded pretty good.
>>217789585It’s ugly.
>>217793386>In one of its most famous projects, Federal Project Number One, the WPA employed musicians, artists, writers, actors and directors in arts, drama, media, and literacy projects.[1] The five projects dedicated to these were the Federal Writers' Project (FWP), the Historical Records Survey (HRS), the Federal Theatre Project (FTP), the Federal Music Project (FMP), and the Federal Art Project (FAP).Honestly had no idea the WPA was involved in artistic pursuits. I always thought it was make-busy work like digging pointless canals and building roads to nowhere.
>>217794588And people wonder why the New Deal has a good reputation
>>217789406Buying star wars
>>217794588the propaganda was successful
