Why are there so many retarded episodes of TNG?
>>217804721My favorite is the mask one. Like seriously what the fuck? Also why do so many of the retarded episodes involve data?
>>217804721Because each season had like 25 episodes each.
>>217804721I don't get the love for it. They all act like they have a stick up their butts. The robot has slightly more personality than the humans but I guess that's the joke.
joy has left mankind
>>217804855Roddenberry believed tng characters had TOO MUCH personality. His idea for future humanity was emotionless, homogenous and sexless.
>>217804721Probably to save money.Something Ive heard more than once from watching special features shit is that producers/directors/writers have to be clever with their studio budgets if they want to do something grand. They might have to make a few shitty bottle episodes with painfully low budgets so that they can use the savings later on a big story that has expensive sets and props.
>>217805047>His idea for future humanity was emotionless, homogenous and sexless.wish I could trade timelines with Gene
>>217805369Why? You already are autistic and have no game
>>217805047You are right about the first two but Roddenberry definitely was not interested in a sexless future.
>>217805047>His idea for future humanity was emotionless, homogenous and sexless.Literally my life right now
The ones that disregard all military procedure are funny.>hello i am from the future, im going to observe you and your ship.>ok!
>>217804721TOS is superior of course.
>>217805410if I was a Trek fan yeah but you basically missed the point, imagine living in a world where that's the most incredible thing you could've imagined, the very opposite of reality as you knew it.
>>217804721it's still trek after allI enjoyed the silly and campy stuff though
>>217804721fuck off
Star Trek is just retarded in general. You want to streamline it into some kind of version of it that doesnt have the sillly episodes and is just serious hard scifi all the time. Thats basically what Enterprise was and most people find it dull.
>>217804721They were basically filming episodes year round doing 14 hour daysLiteral publish or perish shit so not every episode was a winner but they were cranking them out. That being said, like 90 percent of the episodes are awesome. I even like the goofy ones like the one where Data has to win money playing cards. The only ones I don't like are the Lwaxana ones.
>>217805047>sexlessYou clearly don't know much about Roddenberry
>>217804739By season 7, Brent Spiner, Data's actor, was a prima donna only 2nd to Patrick Stewart. He wanted shit, he got shit. Writers also liked using Data for all sorts of whacky shit because he was a fan (and writer) favorite.
>>217805047>>217804721More like Gene wanted no conflicts between crew members which stacks up the bad episodes during the first two seasons. He wanted to sexualize everything though. It still has more good than bad episodes overall, every 90s Trek does.
>>217805047>sexless
>>217804721This two-parter made me hate Mark Twain... what a fucking twat.
>>217804739i unironically like that episode a lot
>>217807291They also punished him by forcing scenes with Spot. It's well documented that he hates cats and hated anytime he had to do those scenes.
>>217804721I like these episodes, Mark Twain being involved in a 24th Century mystery is stupid and fun. TOS had these types of episodes as well, like the Abraham Lincoln one or the nazis.
>>217804721It’s certainly not worth being a two parter.
>>217807232I get what you're saying. They are not my favorites but they grew on me as I got older. As a kid I found her annoying but growing up I realized that she's just balls to the walls. You need to watch her episodes and imagine her as an early prototype Chad. She catfished a Ferengi, slam dunked other gay Beta diplomats, completely disregards foreign cultures she dislikes and has her way with the emotionless flagship captain while taking a piss on her useless daughter. She even invited Alexander to her own mudbath island.Fuck, I now want a wacky Lwxana movie adventure instead of the slop that we have been served for the last 20 years.
>>217804721Because it's a retarded show?
>>217804721Coz there were 400 different writers and directors and no storyline.All episodic TV shows are like that. With no underlying story or clear direction, you end up with 80% filler.
>>217804721Because it's a long lived series with many episodes>>217805624yep
>>217805047Stop talking out your ass. It's not good for you
>>217804721Those retarded epsiodes are my favourites.
>>217804721Star Trek is meant to be fun a silly sometimes.
>>217804721THE EPISODE THAT WAS NOT GOODBUT ANON COULD NOT NAME.
>>217809624WHEN THE MONKEY CHECKS INBUT NEVER CHECKS OUT.
>>217809637THE LARGE MAN ON PLANE AND IT FALLS FROM THE SKY
>>217809645THE FARMING GENERAL STORE THAT WAS ONCE PROSTITUTIONAL!
>>217809652THE WOMAN BAREFOOT ANDFOCUS WAS ON HER SOLES.
>>217809667THE SERPENT MAGE EXLAIMED LOUDLY, A PHRASE OF DEH.
>>217809681THE MAN WITH A CROWN OF FLAMES WAS REQUESTED TO EXIT!
>>217809693>THERE WERE DECREASING CYCLES UNTIL THE NEXT INSTALLMENT. REFUSAL OF THE STATE OF DECEASED GUARDSMEN. CONGRATULATIONS NOLAN. EGREGIOUS FILMAGE.
>>217804721There's a 178 episodes, like 26 episodes per season. Nutrek shits its pants trying to write 1 decent ep.
>>217807232this is what people forget about old 22 episode a season TV shows. they were filming for 9+ months out of the year, every year, with insane working hours. just a complete meatgrinder of production. so of course the quality was going to be inconsistent. makes you realize just how shitty shows are now because they have no excuse. 8 episodes every 18 months and that's still the shit they come up with.
>>217809881Shows now put the budget elsewhere. They go for "quality in detail" over "quantity". Sets, costumes, props, effects, locations and so on. Star TNG used the same set for every episode for every season. They did change out costumes at one point. With how the show did in syndication years later, it really paid for itself. Now a days, you can't rely on making money 10 years after it's over. The business model has just changed, but the filter for writing quality has not. Those 8 episodes don't get worked on more then the 22 did.
>>217804721That two-parter was great. Only bitter unfun self-aggrandizing losers hate it.
>>217811343Samuel Clemens pestering Data and Whoopi Goldberg for 40 minutes is better than any 40 minutes in the entirety of nu-trek.It's not even close either