Was the CRT important in making a KINO experience for films and shows like it did for old games?
No
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>>217821742
Back then, it was the fact that you were able to rent movies and watch them at home that made it kino, but the TV itself wasn't that great unless it was a big screen that weighed 120lbs. Prior to the rental era, which only started, really, in the 80s, the idea of watching a movie at home was unheard of unless it was aired on network television.
Silent Hill 2 is such a boring pile of shit. I wish video game hipsters would hop off it's dick.
>>217821742those things weighed 1 lb per square inch of screen.
>>217821742Yes because that's all we had.>>217821849>Prior to the rental era, which only started, really, in the 80s, the idea of watching a movie at home was unheard of unless it was aired on network television.And this. Most people didn't even have a VCR until 1985 because the prices were insanely high, same for the tapes.Star Wars in 1982 to buy, cost $200.00 for a "lifetime rental", so they could tell 20 Century Fox that they were not selling any copies, but merely renting them and those rentals just never had to be returned. So until 1985-1987ish, if you missed it in theaters or on TV, you were shit outta luck.
>>217821847whats curious about this is that girl must be younger than vhs. why is she having nostalgic feelings toward that?
>>217822028She's probably 60. Some people age way better than others.
think the commodore64 broke the mold as could just be directly hooked to your TV without the need for a separate monitor
>>217822028It's all larp and brownies don't have nice shit.
>>217821847I wish I was American so I could meet waifus like this
>>217822028tbf, she didn't actually say she's nostalgic about that; it's just "things that I like."
>>217821847based zoomette black nerd>>217822028same reason why I collect vinyl records even though they were also way before my time.It's not even about nostalgia anymore, it's about owning a physical piece of the past, and owning physical copies of media rather than trusting streamslop to not censor everything, AI "remaster" everything, or to be paying 3-4 different streaming services each month until whatever shows you're trying to watch get pulled from streaming and the rights transferred to some other streaming platform.
>>217821975weiird my 19inch CRT monitor weighed like 60 lbs
>>217821980>>217822028>>217821742>>217822289I've spent the last two weeks digitizing over 50 VHS tapes with commercials from the 80s and 90s. I wish I had a faster CPU.Should I keep doing h264 or should I try h265?. Im starting to run out of HDD space.
>>217821847As Told By Ginger was such garbage. And why would you blend 90s with modern? funko pops weren't a thing until 2010
>>217821742The retro embrace of CRTs is fascinating to me as somebody who was alive at the time. Compared to modern displays, maybe they were slightly better suited to 8 and 16-bit graphics due to pixel smoothing, but on the whole they were primitive pains in the ass. They were used because nothing better existed. Anybody in 1985 would have jizzed their pants over a modern 4k 75" screen.
I really don't miss CRTst. born in 1991
>>217822329>Should I keep doing h264 or should I try h265?I'd be annoyed if I downloaded something from one source and it switched randomly midway through.>Im starting to run out of HDD space.Upload the ones you've already got to the Internet Archive or gofile and then delete them.
>>217822028>What is LARPING?It's clearly some tiktok brained foid who likes the "aesthetic"
>>217821742Zoomers are having a hipster arc in their late 20's.
>>217821742>playing sh with the lights on and music playingpussy
>>217821742CRT's are highly overrated. They're too bulky, too heavy, generate too much heat, and use too much electricity. Meanwhile, unless you're using high-level scientific gear, you're still going to be limited on the resolution you see, based on the source.
>>217822028Zoomer culture is absolute trash, so naturally they latch on to superior Millennial culture.
>>217822028She never said she was.
>>217822372I don't get it either. I understand the appeal of vinyl records and retro videogames, but CRT televisions and VHS tapes were complete ass.
>>217822404good call anon right now everything is in h264 4:2:0 color space with CRF of 22.Each raw encode is about 40GB per hour of tape. These 6 hour tapes are insane when raw ,but after encoding i can usually get them down to 4-5GB
>>217821742Its only good for gaming since the games on original hardware were meant to be played on them. Plug a ps2 into an hdtv without an expensive upscaler and the text is barely legible. Movies have been remastered and put into 4k so watching stuff on vcr is pointless
>>217822787>typewriter print on some of the labelsabsolute kino
>>217821742I refuse to be upset by things like this, because any effort by newer generations to deny many modern conventions is a gain. I wish it would take form in more things besides consumerism, but it's a start. It only takes a generation or two to completely change expectations, so go against that grain as much as you can.>>217822337>And why would you blend 90s with modern?Her specific taste aside, trying too hard to stick with only period-accurate items for decor is not only difficult but also kind of kitschy. You end up with some weird museum exhibit rather than a living space.
>>217822869Also, using the little number stickers on each one.
>>217822329>I've spent the last two weeks digitizing over 50 VHS tapes with commercials from the 80s and 90s. I wish I had a faster CPU.Are you the anon who found the Star Wars tape and then also had a James Bond rough cut as well as a Star Trek III TV version?
>>217822827It's more legible than on old TVs
>>217822582>generate too much heat, and use too much electricity.Both of those are false, unless it's a large set and then heat can be an issue in the summer months.
It's the last ditch attempt of trying to relive 90s-00s. Ir doesn't make sense because it doesn't have to be it's fueled by second hand nostalgia and trying to be different.
>>217822869>>217822918By the mid 2000s my dad had over 300 tapes ranging from 1982 to 2006. lots of commercial kino on here >>217822935no but i was in that thread. I first started digitizing these in 2022, and realized I used a very bad workflow, so in 2024 i restarted the whole thing, and realized again, I wasnt doing it right, so now I started saving the RAW captures so I can always try again with getting the perfect x264 settings just right. my cpu is only a 12 core and it runs at full sped to encode but it still can take up to 5 hours to encode when running -veryslowI have a 4TB HD thats 80% filled with nothing but VHS rips and encodes. Im considering buying a better VHS player so I can do it all over again (for the 4th time)
>>217822992Based perfectionist.
>>217822992So you've found a fetish with encoding old tapes. Thank you for doing what you do, but there has to be a stop somewhere?
>>217822992I wish I had kept my recorded VHS, although I usually skipped over commercials
>>217822992Do you have any vintage 1980s/90s softcore pornography?
>>217821898Great for you if you managed to get anything from that washed out photo
>>217822329if you uploaded a Ferris Bueller VHS rip you would be a king.don't use x265, it has issues particularly with reds.
Tbh I don't have much nostalgia for VHS tapes. We had a VCR and a Laserdisc player when I was a kid and DVDs and later on BluRays just felt like a natural extension of LDs. What I do miss is actual film projectors. Digital projection is a pale imitation and if you ever have a chance you owe it to yourself to watch a real deal film showing.
>>217823015>>217823026Its bad, Im never satisfied because I feel like if i encode too low that's it. If I try to hit a target rate of 4mb/s that makes HUGE files for what is basically 480p video. If lower it down to 2mb/s then you can see blocky chunks. and since every time you want to edit the video after its been encoded you get signal degredation, it makes me really try to get it right the first time.This 3 hour tape took me over 12 hours of work to split it into sections, do test encodes, then do final encodes, and even though it looks good now Im still to scared to delete the RAW files.>>217823075no lol
>>217823241You're a retard but do what you do
>>217823148pre-taped vhs are tricky because of the anti-copy circutry built into the vcr, so it causes the picture to be severly over-contrasted like this
>>217823287>built into the vcrDo you mean macrovision? As I remember, that exploited a feature of vcrs meant to improve the recording, you could get boxes that removed the dodgy part of the signal, but good luck finding one now.
>>217823241Good job babe
>>217823359yeah thats it. the only way I could bypass it is by removed the line tbc passthru, but that would make the picture look shit, so its a lose lose.
>>217823287if you just really like ripping and archiving tape, there's a community called societyglitch, they are more focused on like home movies and stuff from handhelds before digital/internet.hitting thrift stores/garage/estate sales or w/e hunting for tapes to rip could be your next passion lmao
>>217821742>friend or relative asks you to help them carry their monster TV up a narrow flight of stairs>lugging a big monitor to a LAN partyI don't miss them
>>217822992>Im considering buying a better VHS playerIt's probably not worth it. Unless your current player is a particularly bad one, if it's got svideo or component output, I can't see the machine making much of a difference. I had a panasonic one which was ludicrously expensive, it had a jog wheel on the flip-down front panel, but it broke sooner than much cheaper players. One thing to consider is that the tapes had separate audio tracks for mono and stereo sound, so recordings with stereo sound may still have mono audio from a previous recording.
>Born in late 80s>got rid of every single CRT as soon as I could afford it because they are all absolute shit>zoomers are now feeling nostalgic about themYou're all so fucking retarded it's not even funny anymore
>>217821847She's flexing sth that went on sale every week to keep China or Malaysia in biz
>>217821742Technically not a CRT problem but high definition TV was the final nail in the coffin of kino pro wrasslin'. The more thoughtful and technical art of selling moves and injuries was already in decline but HD was the point it stopped being at all viable as for television
>>217823565Was it the AG-1980? That seems to be the choice for people who cant afford a true TBC which still go for over $1000 even today.I have the lower tier which is nice vcr + panasonic dvd player which has a pseudo tbc built in (DMR-ES15). It works nicely for any old tapes in SP mode but a crapshoot for SP and LP tapes which there are alot of. Some tapes the tracking is so fucked that I cant get the hi-fi track to work unless the picture is a snowy mess, but when it defaults to the mono track its incredibly muffled.a few years ago i acutally bought the same exact VCR model many of these tapes were recorded on to see if it helped, it didnt really.really nice vcr though
>>217823728I can't remember, it may have been the European model, but I don't recognise the remote shown in this video:https://youtu.be/FGn4bUEUdt8I may be misremembering the jog wheel on the flip-down panel, but it was busy with buttons. All I can remember is that what hifi magazine called it "probably the best vcr in the world", which I agreed with until it broke. I haven't touched panasonic since.
>>217822966No its not. When I got into retro gaming a simple rca to hdmi made the games very dark and blurry. Fuzzy ass text. You need an expensive upscaler which can range from $200-$800. A crt that has component or SCART is the best picture you will get. A good brand crt made after 2000 is amazing picture. Vcr quality was was always shit and was only used cause it was cheap
>>217823176I feel that way too about DVDs being superior to VHS. I think sometimes DVDs and BDs don't look as good as the VHS or whatever they were originally released on. However that is almost always due to the company transfering it improperly versus a flaw with the format itself. I personally prefer DVDs since BDs are Sony patented, but I do like the upscale that BDs present in mose situations. I try to get the movies in both DVD and BD if that option is available cheaply.
>>217823176>>217824046
A bunch of you fuckin nerds can finally get pussy from retro zoomers if you play your cards right. Nigga learn how to not fuck that up. Some of you, will finally feel the warm moist. I'll be proud of you.
>>217822262As someone who has met girls like this, let me tell you, it's cool to have someone who shares the same hobby as you, until you find out why they're trying to relive the past. There's always some unresolved traumatic experience involved. it's impossible to be in a relationship or even be friends with such a person because of how insane they can be at times.
>>217822372They did have that weird appeal of 'somethings in there' and you could give the glass a real pounding. Like they were some kind of a weird and ethereal viewing portal.LCD technology gave everything a cinematic flatness in the clarity and is obviously what we want to watch. But the CRT was a real combustion engine to the E/V of LCD's It's a shame to see them left out of the historical narrative so often. They had a physical presence that is hard to describe. And the photon guns would make you flush after hours of your face pressed up to one.
>>217824104It is strange how inconsistent they all are. Do you think it was the directors doing that, or the companies releasing them? Or maybe both? I can see a director trying to change it to fit the medium of the release, like 'this must be like this to get the best picture on that medium' and constantly changing their mind as technology advances.
>>217824154what about men who like old stuff?
>>217824241Titanic was similar, The VHS and first DVD were white balanced VERY white, while the second DVD release was warmer, then the BD release which was...piss green and blue
>>217821847>women now latching onto nerdy male outcast hobbies from 10 years ago>the same nerdy men who they would have mocked at the timeWhy does this cycle always happen?
>>217824154>it's impossible to be in a relationship or even be friends with such a person because of how insane they can be at timesEveryone's insane sometimes, true friendship/love is accepting the good with the bad.I just want more cute black girls in my life.>>217824241Probably both, thought I don't know if anyone has ever asked the Wachowski's about the greening of The Matrix.
>>217821847don't post my wife
>>217824278I don't think movies as a hobby were ever nerdy or outcast. They have always been loved by all, based on my experience. The movies themselves were what distinguished your interests. Otherwise, I see what you mean.I don't think it was just a woman thing though. Many hobbies once mocked or treated with indifference in the past have become more socially accepted in time. I think that has to do with people being more open minded to hobbies as we become more aware of them online- with the catch being more surface level awareness is what makes it more sociall accepted. For example, you say your hobby is gardening tomatoes and basil- cool, everyone knows that and it sounds pretty cool. If you say you are gardening plants and list them by their latin names, many people may think you are really into gardening to know that. It isn't a problem of course, everyone has interests and hobbies in things that go much deeper than the common person is familiar with. People here can name many movies most people on the street may have never heard of. Likewise, people on the street all have their own deep interests in things people here may have never heard of too. It is what makes us interesting.
>>217824583>moviesNot movies, but the fascination with using outdated CRT monitors/TVs and obsolete media formats. 10 years ago almost all women would flash the HDMI cable face if a guy were using an old CRT TV, but I guess since it's a social media trend now, they think it's cool.
>>217822028People consoom nostalgiabait content for time periods they were too young to remember themselves, developed a warped idealized perception of what that time period was like, and then try to capture it for themselves (see the number of people who were not alive in the 80s who ate up shit like Ready Player One or Stranger Things)Probably doesn't help that consumer technology has basically been frozen in place for the last 10-15 years so if you're a teenager now you probably don't remember anything other than glass sandwich smartphones and tablets
>>217824621Oh my bad, I gotcha.I do think the CRT interest is more driven by nostalgia, the push back against companies going 'you'll own nothing', and push back against making everything 'smart'/connected to the web. Plus the prices being cheaper with some literally giving them away for free (although that may not be the case anymore). I think that because of this becoming a trend it catches the attention of people that wouldn't normally pay attention to it.
>>2178218472 in 1's were never kino or cool. You either had a tv AND a vcr or you were low tier trash.
>>217824241>It is strange how inconsistent they all area dvd player playing a dvd hooked up to an 8K television is going to look like garbage.that same dvd hooked up to a crt is going to look really good in comparison.doesn't mean the 8K tv is trash, just that the media is purpose built to the way it's expected to be played back.
>>217824621>>217824278you sound like an asshole and women's dislike of you has nothing to do with the fact that you were doing nerd hobbies 10 years ago
>>217824241480p DVD's look WAAAAY better on native 480p CRT's than modern 1080p and 4k hd flat screens.
>>217825574That's one thing that's really surprised me about the normalfag zoomer embrace of the CRT, is the love of TV + VCR combos. Those were typically rather undesirable among CRTfags, and even back in the day they were typically kitchen TVs (as in, something you'd put in the kitchen to produce background viewing while cooking or eating breakfast, with the VCR often serving as a handy way to record something without having to monopolize the main TV). I guess they'd also have been common in kids' bedrooms by the late 90s/early 2000s, which again would still be a place for lesser sets. But I guess the design used in their production era and small, desktop friendly size align with muh frutiger aero look, and an easy way to watch VHS tapes (or play them for social media cred).
>>217824278They won't like something until it becomes popular and cool. Now that nerd culture is popular they can get into it and then leverage that into becoming more popular themselves on social media.
>>217826160Cry more faggot. I have no desire to interact with women, much less performative roasties who ride on the coattails of fads that would have disgusted them just a few years prior.
>>217821847this is shit is so orchestrated NO I WILL NOT LUST AFTER BLACK WOMEN FFFFFFUUUUCKK OOOOOFFF
>>217821742I don't believe CRT made old games look better. Your eyes naturally blend images together already you don't need a blurry screen. CRT "filter" mods for games look absolutely fucking disgusting and so does the blending shit they do on phone ports of old snes games like chrono trigger.
>>217822028She looks like she's in her 30's so she's old enough for VHS and "poor people" used VHS a lot later than everyone else.
>>217821742I was born in '90 and like CRTs, but I will never ever use one again because they're all old and have that screeching sound. A lot of you are earlets and can't hear it, but every time I've been around one for the past decade (like when someone is playing melee), I've heard that maddening sound. It sounds like nails on a chalkboard. It's probably messing with your heads too even if you can't audibly hear it.So yeah, fuck CRTs.
>>217821742I still watch obscure movies on my 27" Trinitron that I can only torrent as AVI files. I'm actually planning to watch a ultra-low budget horror movie on it tonight that only ever got a rare DVD release. I have a Sony VCR for VHS tapes and a PS2 for DVDs hooked up to it at all times, and also a WD TV Mini to play AVI files on it via USB stick.
