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>>218022027nigga u gay
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>>218021987Wesley Crusher, Tom Paris, Harry Kim, Icheb and Q Jr are relentlessly handsome.
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What's up with the Klingon foot horn thing?
>>218022260If I pull your shoe off will you die?>It would be extremely painful
>>218022096Can I say something…
>>218021994thread cursed
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>>218022298Worf got his removed.
There's a rhythm to /trek/, a cadence, and when it is disrupted, the mental stress on anons is greatly exacerbated.
>>218022260It's an iguanodon thing
>>218022102Kira, I loved her, I loved her, DAMNIT!
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Sure, it looks like fun to be Riker in OPs pic, but just remember you have to spend like 6 days a week with fucking ACTRESSES, the absolute worst form of woman ever conceived. Just look at what a pussy Frakes turned into due to years of contact with these harpies. Let him cop a feel, for tonight he dines in hell.
>>218022071star trek neelix feet
>>218022096I wonder if we would have still had this "You just hate smart women!" discourse if 1987 if Wesley was cast as Dr. Crusher's daughter instead.
>>218021987It was a fi if a saw ti
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>>218022531star trek neelix feetthe footfags say it's neatit makes me feel elitestar trek neelix feetstar trek neelix feetit's why I beat my meat it makes me go skeet skeet star trek neelix feetstar trek neelix feetmy orgasm's completemy climax is quite fleetstar trek neelix feet
>>218022677Why did they ever allow him near an intoxicant?? Don't they remember the last time he was drunk?
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>>218022747Data cannot "get drunk".
>>218022651you're dismissed
That Borg who called Data obsolete was objectively wrong.
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>>218022817Are we contrarian enough to start calling the Borg based?
>>218022847Data basically has superpowers.
>>218022882It depends to be honest. A true collective that operates on a principle of complete openness and transparency of all data/information, would in fact statistically make the best decisions. Similar to how a democracy is the best form of government if there is a truly informed and educated electorate.However any imbalance in the flow of information and data will rapidly lead to whatever the transhuman equivalent of demagoguery will be and will reinforce a hierarchical system (say, under a queen) which devotes significant resources to propagating its own power structure. So, in theory, the Borg can be based if they use a quorum-based peer to peer information sharing system where all data is considered by all nodes before voting on course of action using a ranked choice system.Under all other circumstances, Borg are authoritarian commie scum
>watching Enterprise for the first time>in the pilot T'Pol and Trip start rubbing each other's half naked bodies with some sort of decontamination gel after getting back from Rigel 10>He literally rubs against her ass crack at one pointwhat is the point of that scene exactly? Is it because of how sexy Seven of Nine was they felt they had to introduce SEX SEX SEX into the new show too?
>>218023025They're basically just computers.
>>218023035The ENT writers knew that fans have needs.
How is it that Rom went from a vicious snake-like retard trying to kill his brother to a stammering genius with a heart of gold who brings about the communist revolution and leads the free ferengi world?
>>218023035>was they felt they had to introduce SEX SEX SEX into the new show too?TV was becoming highly sexualized around that time, all culminating in the TITS N' DRAGONS hour in 2011.
>>218023035Yes, people will cope but it was pure desperation from Berman and co at the time. Berman liked fake titty bimbos as evidenced by the "hot extras" he would use for things like the Q girls, Dabo girls, etc, so he thought getting some bimbo with collagen lips and fake tits would = ratings.He was wrong.
>>218023088>vicious snake-like retard trying to kill his brother>communistI don't see the problem
>>218023025Good point plus the borg queen is gay as hell. I think a better integration was done by Halo with the flood/the hivemind. Maybe if Star Trek ever gets rebooted they can start from scratch and add more lore to the Borg and how they calculate decision-making
>>218023098I am not a gay but I feel like as someone who's had the internet at his fingertips all his life, gratuitous licentiousness is a bit off-putting desu.
>>218023053>They're basically just computers.They're computers that are networked but each node has been trained on a data set that is an individual personality and lived experience. Therefore each node has biases – e.g., and this is only broadly speaking, a Klingon might choose conflict over diplomacy in any given scenario, or a Tellarite would be more likely to appeal/argue an existing path of action – and thus you need the Law of Large Numbers to apply across all nodes which have been homogenously exposed to all information essentially simultaneously. With transwarp data transmission and effectively magic processing power this might be possible. In the real world it wouldn't because the central core cluster of nodes could act faster than those on the outskirts of the Borg polity; or conversely, something that happens on the frontier might not make it to the rest of the Collective before the emergent event is OBE. So with real world physics, the Borg can only work to the degree that light speed transmission lag isn't faster than compute lag, AND when the system is developed with truly egalitarian information sharing.
>>218023035Enterprise in extremely "horny" and filled with Fan Service for about 2 seasons.The reason is because 7 of 9 got insanely popular so they wanted to up the sex appeal. It was also a UPN show, aka Proto-CW.
>>218023142We still don't know how the Borg started.Who's Species Designation 001?
>>218023174Go on.
>>218023147There's a fine line with sexy stuff in Star Trek.In TOS, it's part of the setting and is as natural as any other part of the background. But you can't have all of the trappings of Berman Trek and then have gratuitous decon chamber stuff on top of it or it feels jarring. TNG did a good job in those early seasons as well of making the skimpiness feel like a part of the universe as a whole.It would be far less jarring if the Mirror Universe Starfleet uniforms were standard instead of the like, formless astronaut coveralls that everyone is wearing.It seemed out of place to me.
>>218023201wat
>>218023209I saw Encoutner at Farpoint earlier today and Troi's skirt is literally 1 inch below her hips lmao
>>218023172She certainly had enduring popularity.
>>218023109He went from a capitalist retard to a commie retard
>>218023283As with 9/11, another monkey's paw prediction brought to you by the gift of apollo
Power rankings as of DS9:Romulan Star EmpireUnited Federation of PlanetsEveryone else
>>218023209It's because its blatant pandering and it's a whole "mechanic" in the show. It's not a random one off of women kissing. It's not a single scene of the female cast in spandex stretching. It is something that shows up in a lot of episodes and feels like an excuse to have the cast in their underwear. Atleast there is some kind of excuse, unlike Academy where there are just random footshots all over the place.
>>21802336760 year old feet to boot
>>218023174Interesting questions, but remember not everything has to be outright answered and explained. Sometimes it’s good to let mysteries remain mysteries, or introduce even more interesting things. Maybe the borg don’t even know who patient zero is, but there are clues for starfleet to go search for…
>>218023263God Bless St. Roddenberry
>>218023088Wasn’t rom trying to kill quark because of how quark treated him? And then they addressed those issues?
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>>218023439He was trying to kill Quark so that he could get his bar. Rom was a completely different character at first. Many such cases in DS9.
>>218023439Quark didn't address shit.
>>218023367>unlike Academy where there are just random footshots all over the place.We need a complete and total ban of footfags in the director's set until we can figure out what the hell is going on!
At this point what would it take to fix Star Trek? Is it even possible?
>>218023488My answer would probably get me arrested so my lawyers advise I don't speak my mind on this issue
>>218023488Star Trek is fine, they stopped making it 20 years ago
>>218023488They'd have to go the knight of the seven kingdoms route.
>>218023488In any creative venture, it's all about the team. Any new team could be better than this, and yes, possibly EVEN WORSE.
>>218023521>the knight of the seven kingdoms routeComputer, elaborate
>>218022260made to explain why their boots have the claw on them, even though we know it's part of the boot and not their biologyartist was silly
>>218023147>licentiousness
>>218023543Anons are giving it big ups. Might be a franchise saver.
>>218023488All sci-fi is kinda fucked until they let autstic white men back into creative positions. Until then every show and movie is just going to be a therapy session disguised as a piece of entertainment.
>>218023488Stop making everything gay and lameThat's all it would takeBut this is an impossible task in 2026
>>218023488Has Gary or Drinker spoken on this?
>>218023579I've posted this before and someone pointed out that Star Wars now has this with dave filoni. I think that's only a part of the solution. Really you need some sort of wozniak-steve jobs duo. One who is autistic and has crazy good ideas a la Dan Aykroyd, and some sort of tard wrangler to make sure things don't get too out of hand
>>218023521That’s the mandalorian route. Smaller low stakes self-contained stories. Oh wait that’s actually Star Trek.
>>218023228nothingburger posts like "Go on." and "That's enough." are automated bot posts, I swear to god
Star Trek needs someone who is just gonna gatekeep the fuck out of it like Rick Berman did
>>218023263only when she's sitting
>>218023543I actually bothered to ask ComputerGPT about it.The whole thing is a bit long but it basically boils down to>hire people who actually like philosophical sci-fi instead of niggers who want to chase drama moneylmao
>>218023696she should always be sitting on my face
>>218023628You know Drinker always waits for a consensus to form before agreeing with in in his videos. If his fans like something, he praises it. If his fans dislike the thing, he calls it woke garbage.
>>218023339She's aged well.
>>218023669They're manuals
>>218023675Kind of, Berman shouldn't have had as much control as he did. He did a mostly-okay job. But it could have been way better.And yes it goes without saying that even at his worst he was lightyears better than the shit we are being awarded now
>>218023638love this lil nigga like you wouldn't believe
I want to fuck both draxI want a holodeck program where they eat each other's pussies
>>218023488>At this point what would it take to fix Star Trek?Arbeit macht frei
>>218023773Die
Are private holodeck programs legally protected?
>>218023773>drax>pussiesgo surf on a train, poojeet
>>218023773>I want to fuck both draxThat's Babylon 5
>>218023796In what sense? Like copyright protected? Probably.Protected from privacy? Fuck no
>>218023669Yes, and?
>>218023773jadzia looks like a man
>>218023798I'll get her to shit out the symbiote and then just fuck the symbiote
>>218023831/trek/ is supposed to be an organic thread where anons contribute and engage in real dialogue.
>>218023796They have as much rights as (lower case d) data.
>>218023869Elaborate.
>>218023508Maybe you could tell how you would do it . . . in Minecraft.
Reading comprehension at 4%!
>>218023174I prefer the Star Trek Legacy idea that it's an offshoot of the V'Ger probe.
I have the latest episode of Academy downloaded but I don't know if I have the strength.
Who do (You) have a holoprogram of? Pic related. I made this one so I can hang out with my gay Chinese best friend whenever I want.
>>218024002You, of course! We have so much fun together.
>>218024002I have a /trek/ program that's just rituals on repeat.
>>218024002Aragorn so I can ask him about his tax policies. He told me that there are no taxes and then asked me why he the largest landholder in his kingdom would even need taxes in the first place. I'm trying to come up with an answer for him to give during our next holo sesh.
It could be anyone...
>>218023995No one is blaming you if you can't do it kek even libfags like angryjoe and redditors are claiming they don't intend to do a full watch through
>>218023869Please expound.
Thoughts on Mike and Rich doing a DS9 series?
>>218023053>>218023025I think that the Borg are best summed up by the alt-Riker when he said "the Borg IS everywhere". The Collective is not many minds forcefully pushed together, nor is it a hierarchy of slaved bodies. The Collective is a rapid, transcending gestalt. That is to say, when one is assimilated their mind becomes the Collective. All the assimilated knowledge of the Collective instantly is available to them. Their mind engorges to the size of a galaxy, and their body swells to become the sum of every single Borg nanoprobe and sphere and Cube and transwarp conduit, and every single Drone. And somewhere in all that vast mind and body, is what was once their ONLY body, completely forgotten, in the same way that you do not control your individual cells.That's why the idea introduced in later TNG that "individuality" destroys the Borg from within is complete bullshit. Individuality is irrelevant to the Borg, not because it is suppressed, but because the Collective is BEYOND individuality. Every particle of the Borg infrastructure IS the Collective. Hence why Drones can go inert and become seamlessly part of their Cube, as per Q Who, in order to regenerate it, and why Borg simply read as Borg on scans.>>218022817The statement is absolutely correct if one considers that the ultimate "root directive" of the Borg is to erase all distinction of mechanical and biological. Locutus did not say WHAT was obsolete about Data, simply that he had no place in the coming order(of life).
>>218024278They need to finish TNG + the movies before getting into DS9. I do love their comfy retrospectives but I hate how much they jump around.
>>218024002>whoSigns of small mind. The ideal holoprogram would be an immersive simulation of a cosmic event with safeties on, so you could be in the center of a star as it goes supernova or fly through a massive storm like the Great Red SpotYour imagination is lacking and you are defective.
>>218022792Fuck you, Im dismissed when Im good and fucking ready to be dismissed
>>218024322I doubt they'll go back for more TNG just because they basically already went over the top 20 between the both of them. I feel like there's potential for them do the movies though, even though they hate them.
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>>218023488Retcon literally everything released after 2005Hire the Oroville guys
>>218024308>Every particle of the Borg infrastructure IS the Collective. Hence why Drones can go inert and become seamlessly part of their Cube, as per Q Who, in order to regenerate it, and why Borg simply read as Borg on scans.These things... are not mutually inclusive, or exclusive. I don't even think it's accurate.
>>218022747Data was fully functional by design. Data was, among other things, a dildo
>>218024451There’s enough content for them to do season reviews of every season of TNG+ DS9. That’s 14 seasons cut into 28 videos. 32 videos with the TNG movies. You know they have enough autistic nitpicks for hourlong videos On each season.
>>218024514If you watch the scene from Q Who where the Away Team is on the Cube, Riker explicitly says that the Borg have stopped reading as individual beings, because they have so completely interfaced with the ship. And Data states that a certain part of the physical Cube is being repaired by the Borg. Therefore, the physical infrastructure of the Cube and the Borg drones themselves, along with all their organic and inorganic systems ARE simply one Borg.It's also partly why, I suspect, quite a few Borg drones in Q Who are seen to not have "useful" eyes, since they have issue "blindly" navigating the Cube, as the Cube is them and they are the Cube. The Collective is all one single "borganism", which sub-components being like tissues and organs and organelles in a body.
>>218024462Yes but will you sing your greatest hits?>WHEN I WAS>A YOUNG BOY >I WENT TO>THE SURGEON >TO HAVE A NEW SLIT MADE>HE SAID >ILL TRY>MY HARDEST>BUT DON'T HOPE >FOR THE BEST>IT LOOKS LIKE A CONCH'S BEEN FLAYED
>>218024595*have no issueIncidentally, I would also like to add that the idea the Borg cannot assimilate Data into the Collective is stupid. They can easily subvert and coopt Federation computer systems, and synthetic life forms would be no different I think.
>>218024595...or their tools simply cannot make the distinction yet because they haven't encountered anything like the borg before. you can literally see the borg in their little cubbies, and if you vaporized one with a phaser, you wouldn't be vaporizing all the borg, just an individual
>>218024278Are they brave enough to ever re-watch ENT and serious discuss it? I think not, and I won’t care until they do
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>>218024595So what you’re saying is that if I have sex with a Borg they all feel it?
>>218024722They won’t bother with ENT because it holds no nostalgic value for them.
>>218024680No, Riker explicitly says that the scanners couldn't even detect individual lifeforms at ALL, after they had attacked the Cube. Because before, they knew there were beings around the Cube. Then, during regeneration, they couldn't detect anything but the Cube. The Drones had integrated with the "organ" of the Cube that perfectly.And further, yes, you're correct if you destroy one Drone you do not destroy the Borg. But likewise, if you destroy one cell in the body, the body will not die. Yet, the cell IS the body, and the body is the cells. Your point illustrates exactly why the Borg find individuality to be irrelevant. To the Collective, we are essentially the nomadic bacterium that eventually became our mitochondria. We become drones, in the same way the mitochondria became parts of our cells. It's not a perfect 1:1 analogy, but in that specific way, it serves to illustrate. This got fouled up in BoBW, and I will forever rue that two-parter for that alone, since it set up the possibility of the Queen and of Hugh.
>>218024766Also it's kind of garbage and led directly to JJ trek.
>>218024754>So what you’re saying is that if I have sex with a Borg they all feel it?And when you never call back they'll feel it too.
i don't trust what Mike has to say about DS9 after he got such an easy trivia question wrong
>>218024754Remember what Q said, "not a he, not a she". Borg drones don't have any gender at all anymore. They are rewritten down to the deepest level, that's how far the violation penetrates. I suspect you don't have chromosomes, as a Borg, you have "borgosomes".Thats my issue with Seven of Nine, even if I do like her. Being de-assimilated after that long as a drone should have been an entire season's worth of painstaking recovery at the bleeding edge of Federation medical science.
>>218024828She had a lot of humanity stored in her chest region, the Borg can’t subvert that no matter how hard they might try
>>218024872THAT is very true. Only the finest chesticulatory perfection.
>>218024774>No, Riker explicitly says that the scanners couldn't even detect individual lifeforms at ALL>...or their tools simply cannot make the distinction yet because they haven't encountered anything like the borg before
>>218024723Kek Ive read that posting in /co/ :3
>>218024828We find out in Unimatrix Zero that she has a strong subconscious retention of her individuality and this feeds into her quick recovery. Certainly quicker than the dudes in Descent and anyone mentioned in (ugh) PIC. Seven is exceptional, the Doylist reason being we need her to be for plot purposes and the Watsonian reason being her retained humanity as expressed in her being Annika in U0.
>>218024909The point you're making is sort of moot. The fact that the Drones and the Cube simply read as one proves my point. Data then says that the Borg is using its group-thought to physically repair the ship. Data also earlier says that, when slotted into the alcoves, each drone "no longer reads as SEPERATE life forms".In other words, the Borg drones and the physical Cube are not actually truly different, but are both Borg, and the Borg is them.
Anyone else becoming more and more sexually attracted to Janeway over time? I always thought she was fine, but the more I rewatch Voyager, the more I find her tantalizing. Every moan, grunt, and eyebrow raise has got me like diamonds now. She's quickly making a run at Kira for the #1 spot for me.All I can say is that Chakotay was a lucky man
>>218024939Unimatrix Zero was only added after the Queen was re-introduced(sadly). But my point isn't that the individual is obliterated. That is not the objective of the Borg. Its that the individual body is forgotten, because it simply ends up as a cell in the Collective. When one is de-assimilated, they are shrunk back down from the size of a galaxy, into a single tiny body, which was still "theirs" as the Collective, but now is their ONLY body again. Hence why Seven said she felt "small". My overarching point is really that the Borg were at their peak, conceptually, in Q Who, and for every good bit added in later appearances, 2 bad bits were added. I don't mindlessly hate everything Voyager did with the Borg, I just think it was part of the trend of bad decisions that conceptually diluted and reduced the Borg to a zombie bug-hive.
>>218025082I've always been sexually attracted to her. But I will never fap to her, that is just disrespectful. Whats really freaking me out on my 40th or so voyager rewatch is becoming sexually attracted to neelix...........
>>218025082I was more attracted to Janeway than Seven of Nine who was obvious horny bait.
>>218024525that's because he and Lore were made to fuck Dr. Soong in the ass
>>218025082I want Mommy Janeway to step on my cock and balls and call me mean things
>Congratulations, you are now dilated to 10 centimeters. You may now give birth.Kek I love the moments when worf is so matter-of-fact
Kinda fucked Janeway just straight up kills her entire crew to solve a paradox. There were like 10 viidians aboard and a thousand different ways they could turn the tables
there was a "the crew hallucinates/manifests what they're thinking about" episode in TOS, TNG, DS9 and voyagerFOUR such episodes
>>218025578There’s got to be more than that. It happens at least as often as being mindraped by energy
>>218025578controlled release of real powers
>>218025578It's called the writers have a little fun. Same with every series having some shitass mirror universe episode
TNG Shades of Gray, 99% of it is just fucking flashbacks. Real good stuff guys, wow
They should’ve come back to the ex-Borg co-op in Voyager and they’re literally just Borg again, demonstrating anarcho-communism’s eventual slide into authoritarianism
Wow this new Starfleet Academy™ show is so witty and funny, said absolutely no one ever
>>218025691I think that would've been interesting. Not for the political reason, but simply to show that the Borg is ultimately NOT a faction, and arises from the fundamental nature of itself and from a certain architecture of consciousness. Like a fractal, when a small Collective arises, it inevitably comes to behave exactly like the main Collective, until the two are no different. And become one Collective again.What would've been very cool is if that Collective was actually coming unglued, due to its small size, between the still-conflicting individualism and the arising "borgism" within it. Terminating in a huge, dramatic collapse of the nascent Collective. But leaving the audience with the horror of the idea that the Borg can arise just about anywhere at any time, from even beneficent motives, as long as a certain technology and mentality is present.
>>218025769tl,;dr
The Borg should have been the UFP from the 34th century traveling back into time
>>218025807When be like Borg, become Borg, even if not want be Borg.
>>218025826I disagree. The Borg should not have an explained origin, or even an established extent or limits.
>>218025418The absolute terror on Dorn’s face sells it too. He has never been that afraid before or since, even during mass casualty events.
>>218025861we can beat around the edges though perhaps a species in the top 100?and an explanation as to why the ferengis are in the top 200? how did they end up in the delta quadrant so early?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPHHWmmQhCgI thought this was supposed to be the most feminist star trek
>>218025578it happens IRL too you know
>>218025950I doubt that the species designations have anything to do with a timeline of encounters. It's more likely they are derived from some esoteric classification system we cannot understand as non-Borg.At least, that's what I think.
>>218026043Ferengi anomaly aside, it does track quite strongly with delta quadrant proximity
>>218025950Close to them I reckon
>>218026032This, but the head is Nick Mullen, the body is Alexander Skarsgård circa True Blood Seasons 3 and 4, and the accent is Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's.
>>218026063hmmaccording to this Kirk and the gang travelled 25,000 light years in Star Trek 5 when they went to the centre of the galaxy.That's 35% of Voyager's journey.According to Voyager that should have taken them 25 years and yet they did it in just one film.How CURIOUS.
>>218026060But not proximity to possible Borg origins(which, again, I think would be a terrible idea and strip away the last mystery left in the alpha canon about them).
>>218026032gross
yikes
>>218026032This but the head is Tawny Newsome and the rest is also Tawny Newsome.
>>218026228The Star Trek family is a literal mafia where they all protect each other. Once you’re in, you’re in.
>>218026296unless you're shatner and have the audacity to think kirk is more of a star than sulu
