...and I'm now a few episodes into season 2. The Boxleitner has begun to settle in, and now Dwight Schultz has showed up as - would you credit it? - a crazy guy. So much comfiness. I wonder if that other guy who didn't watch the show back in the day and was thinking of giving it a go (in the thread a few days ago) has since taken the plunge.
>>218064545It just gets better
>Set me free~>Let me be~>Let me drink Garibaldi's pee~
Basedbylon 5
>>218064545It peaks in Season 4
the jump in engagement (NOT quality, engagement) between S1 and S2 is the greatest I've come across in a TV show.season 1 is "worthy", it's no worse than S1 of any trek but it's just building the lore and laying the foundations. I wasn't sure if I'd bother with s2 by the end, the only thing that kept me watching was delenn turning into Mira what's her name that triggered some kind of childhood memory in me of seeing a couple episodes as a kid. By halfway through S2 I was so engrossed at one point I jumped out of my chair and shouted at the screen.absolute kino show.
>The Babylon project was our last, best hope for peace...>It failedThe opening credits for B5 were all great but S3 was such a fucking banger
>>218064545Did you watch the pilot movie?
Stick with it, the payoff is fantastic.
>A Babylon thread?>Why stop there?>Ten thousand, a hundred thousand, a million, what's the difference?
I was a working chef when this was on free-to-air and I used to rush home to see it at 11pm Thursday nights. Now I have genuine sadness every time I rewatch it. So many of the cast gone now. I live in both Hope and fear of a remake or reboot. Who could fill Katsulas’ shoes? Doyle’s? Furlan’s? Even Furst, poor little Vir? At least Jurasik is still kicking, for now.
>>218066278>a remake or reboot
>>218064545>Green!
>>218066278Reddit is very lame but there is a sad post on there about someone getting Boxleitner's signature last at conventions through the years & he was emotional seeing all the other's handwriting. Very tragic, crazy compared to something like TNG that has had no one even ill or anything really.
Just watched the episode last night where Mollari paid back Garibaldi all the money he’d borrowed and sadly admitted that Garibaldi was his only friend. If you combined every Star Trek movie and show from the last ten years they still wouldn’t have that level of emotional impact put together.
>>218066278Nothing good would come from a remake/reboot. I hope JMS has enough clarity to see this. Leave it the fuck alone.
>>218064545Good job, OP. It gets better and better from that point on. A rare 10/10 show.>>218066278>>218066406>>218068014>A Babylon 5 reboot, spearheaded by original creator J. Michael Straczynski for Warner Bros Television and originally developed for The CW, is intended as a from-the-ground-up reimagining of the 1990s sci-fi series. While the project was passed on by The CW in 2023, Straczynski confirmed in 2024–2025 that the reboot remains in development, awaiting a new home and potential buyers. Key Details on the Babylon 5 Reboot>The reboot is described as a "from-the-ground-up" project, not a continuation, allowing Straczynski to revisit the universe with modern storytelling techniques.>modern storytelling>modern storytelling>modern storytelling>...>mfw
>Expected campy sci fi fascist movement>Ends up being frighteningly realisticI don't think you could make a show like this today. It would be torn apart by the /pol/brained retards and other cocksuckers screaming that it's all wokeshit.
I've been rewatching Season 1. Man I wish it wasn't so episodic.
>>218066278>I live in both Hope and fear of a remake or rebootNo hope, no fear, it should not and will not happen. Do you really want to make this scene a reality?
>>218064545I gave up when they started acting Fucking stupid and made the Narn start losing to the Centauri.
>>218069084Every episode has some meaningful tidbit of lore or character development. It's filled with great scenes like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GOHqe0vokU The Babylon 4 storyline wouldn't even work without the first season. I'm convinced the people who cry about season 1 are ds9 trolls. Season one of TNG was a thousand times worse yet you don't see people endlessly seething about it.
>>218069223>Season one of TNG was a thousand times worse yet you don't see people endlessly seething about it.Yes. You. Do.
>>218064545I just sat through the pilot (this felt like a chore) and watched the first episode proper last night. Unfettered comfy kino but I have no clue what’s going on
>>218066581Total Purple Death.
Captain John 'Nuke'em All' Sheridan.
>>218065786>By halfway through S2 I was so engrossed at one point I jumped out of my chair and shouted at the screen.Which part?
What other space shows are essential watching? I've only seen Star Trek TOS and TNG and B5
>>218070450All banter aside DS9 is good as well. Farscape is must watch, Battlestar Galactica while being pretty bad as a whole the first two seasons are kino and it has plenty of great moments all throughout. Stargate SG-1 (and I liked Universe but it's controversial). I'm sure there are a few others but those are the watch before you die shows I can think of off the top of my head.
>>218070450Star Trek DS9Stargate: SG1FarscapeLegend of the Galactic Heroes
I didn't like the new Captain dude that replaced the original guy after her was fired.
Threadly reminder that every narn should be gassed, dropkicked, and hanged, what a worthless and depraved people
>>218070450What's our definition of space show?Altered Carbon Season 1 is pretty good.
>>218070471He gets better just give it some time for him to settle into the role.
>>218070466>>218070468Thanks, I'll check these out>>218070492The cast is regularly on spaceships and the show features at least more than 1 planet
>actor named Jurassic>is not a dinosaur and/or pedophile director
>>218070450Some that haven't been mentioned:Space: Above and Beyond. By the X-Files producers.Firefly. Space western by Joss Whedon. Lexx. Has good episodes but most of the time is acid trips. Andromeda. Decent first season with great characters, but the showrunner quits. Becomes Hercules in space as Kevin Sorbo gets more say in it. Dark Matter is underrated
>>218068217>>modern storytellingYeah let's not ruin it
>>218070450Maybe Dark Matter? I’ve only seen the first 6 episodes, been meaning to go back to it, definitely a tier or 2 below these>>218070466, >>218070468, but it’s alright
>>218070450The Expanse. It will ruin other scifi for you since it's so good. Don't let the tards on /tv/ turn you off it.
>>218070683I'm trans btw not sure if it matters but figured I should mention that just in case.
>>218070683>>218070757What's the deal with show to elicit such reactions?
>>218070800It has some black people in it so that triggers the brainrotten losers here. They seethe at the slightest mention of the show and demand anons don't watch it or give it a chance. But it's the best scifi in the last decade, fantastic world building, and a great story with great characters.
>>218070800It flew under the radar for how strong the first season was, but each season is a significant departure from the last even though it continues the same characters' stories. The Expanse is still one of the top shows on Amazon like Patriot.
>>218070878Nah, it just sucks
>>218064545>old enough to be in your religious books>immune to your younger races weaponry>it's main weapon cuts through anything you have>doesn't need jump gates>will blow up your jump gate if you try to escape>only misses if it wants to>if you touch it you drop dead>if you somehow manage to hurt it and it survives it will remember you and it will hunt you downHas any show ever done as good a job of building up (and then delivering) the "big baddie" as Babylon 5 did with The Shadows?
>>218070909Nah, you suck
>>218070986Saw this show for the first time around 12-13 years old. They seemed so scary and bad ass at the time and somehow unlike many other things they stood the test of time and I am still impressed by them. I might not get the same thrill up my spine but they are just a solid antagonist. I really liked how they used subservient humans to add a secondary creepy factor to them. The conversation Shariden has with them on Zahadoom was a kino scene.
>>218070901It's not a departure. It follows the books almost perfectly. Each season is a logical progression of the story and reasonable follow-on as the characters explore the events they are going through and the fallout from them. It's not made up on the fly like the slop that's on tv now.
>>218070800It's the personification of the enshitification phenomena. People get mad because it had a lot of wasted potential and shit the bed hard. That's why it's rarely talked about even though it's much newer than classics like B5 and DS9 that have stood the test of time and only gained greater fame as they aged. In another 10-20 years no one will even know the expanse existed at all.
>>218070986>Flies through space screaming>if you do manage to find one crashed and inoperable, it will act as a constant Dead Space level Cognitohazard on you when you're near it
>>218070450SG1BSG
>>218070986Their ships' design and that scream have never been surpassed.
>>218070878DS9’s main character was literally black and it’s kino. Expanse is just shit and a waste of elite effects
>>218070800I dropped Expanse at the telepathic hivemind zombie virus, which means that I dropped it at precisely the right time and I never ever suffered from any regrets whatsoever.
I bought two of the Starfury kits back in the day, a standard one to build and a ‘collectors edition’ with the B5 pin and certificate signed by JMS. Went to build the spare and the plastic was warped, wouldn’t fit together properly. Pissed me right off.
>>218065893>>218068217I'm in it for the long haul now.>>218065819Yes, after the first couple of episodes, thinking I might have missed something. Thank goodness they got rid of that Japanese girl.
>>218071080>if you do manage to find one crashed and inoperable,>and it somehow wakes up>it will scream for help>that scream will hurt you and everyone else>it will destroy you for keeping it captive