Hooker with a heart of gold editionPrevious >>218061390
>HURGH
>>218065011GREEN FUCKING BOYS
>>218064990I would not be good to her body iykwim
>Seven forgive me Daemon, but you may be a stronger man than your father, Aegon IV was>Thank You Aegor, but the fundamental question is will i be as effective as a King as my dad was>And i will be>even more so, but until i am it's gonna be hard to verify that i think i'll be more effective
>>218065012>GREEN FUCKING BOYS>immediately dies in the first chargeACK!
>>218065016Awful taste
>>218065037>>immediately dies in the first chargeactually harding didn't die in the first charge, don't know why Apple knight said this
>>218065016When did we see this guy? And what house was he part of? It’s badass
By the Gods, what phenotype is this?
Thank you, Sarah Smith! Fuck you, Sara Hess!
>>218065029SPEAK PLAINLY!
>>218064766>Normalfags care more about the writing than bookfagsYou realise how retarded you sound right
I am your man. Please. Your Man.
>>218064990But where are the manwhores of westeros?
>>218065059100% irish in america
>>218065058It's Humfrey HardyngThe guy who says Green fucking boys
>>218064990TAOOBA!
>>218065059Zendaya 2.0 ruining your kino
>>218065075This better not be some gay dogwhistle like that relentlessly handsome shite or images of Luke.
>>218065059>Among the faces contributing to Dune: Prophecy’s vision is British actor Chloe Lea. Born and raised in Swinton, Greater ManchesterMancunian, vom
Can someone explain to me why the Dornish people in specific have anti-Targ plot armor when the giant scaly nukes worked everywhere else without the meta excuses of "there needed to be someone who'd resist the Targs" and "nobody else thought to give a crossbow steroids before" ?
we are team /green/ here right bros?
>>218065082They had Croatians in Westeros?
>>218065116Absolutely.
>>218065116Nah. Just team /aegon/
>>218065059Kino killer
>>218065106Dorne is less urbanised?
>>218065106They live in the desert full of sand and fire turns sand to glass and…. Idfk I guess they’re the Middle East.
>>218065088Wait, it wasn't actually Zendaya?
>>218065126Lmao brutal
>>218065116always
>>218065059i'd assume native or some afro-mutt.immediately reminded me of bobby dinero's negro mutt kids
>>218065126This guy is descended from Rhaenyra and not Aegon btw, Aegon lost.
>>218065106The Dornish got lucky, and the Targs decided not to call their bluff.
>>218065059defrosted caveman
>>218065148Worse, I’d actually hatefuck Zendaya but wouldn’t touch this one with a 10 ft pole
>>218065073noTthe main complaint from showfags is that Season 2 was boring and didn't have enough action. Then they heard from bookfags that 2 episodes were cut and the huge battle that was supposed to occur at the penultimate episode of season 2 was pushed to the first episode of season 1 so they think that's the root of all problems.Bookfags are the only ones saying that the show is bad because the writing is shit
>>218065016Put him in "Bee tier"
>>218065128all of /green/ is basedexcept allicent
>>218065163Aegon won the culture war and that's all that matters
>>218065027>All the Reachlords fight for Aerys because lehonor and muh oath to the crown>They all crown a guy who is 4th in the line of succession less than 20 years later for no other reason than to satisfy Mace's egoyeah it's comical, GRRM's 'gardening' is a fucking disaster. Him trying to make Jaime look better ruined so many characters>all the other kingsguard have to become hypocritical dirtbags>Rhaegar becomes a moron for not taking action sooner>Aerys insanity is 10x'd from what it's implied in AGOT, so Jaime is more justified in killing him>Cersei becomes a parody tier lunatic so she can be blamed for all of Jaime's failings by corrupting him>mean Ned Stark is apparently an asshole for not reading Jaime's mind about why he killed Aerys>Varys and everybody else are required to be retarded for not finding any of the wildfire hidden around the city and many more beyond that, people really underestimate how much GRRM fucked up so many characters to try and prop up Jaime as "muh true knight"
This is the funniest Targ king He did so much fucking damage to the realm
>>218065184You take that back right now!
>>218065126>>218065116is it better to win the war but your entire family dies, or to lose the war but your family lives and all the remaining targaryens are your descendents? Greens pyrrhic victory.
>>218065163>Aegon lo-ACK
>>218065172I mean childhood crushes hit different.
>>218065202How did he not get murdered?
>>218065059average flea bottom mystery meat mutt, why do you think the city is such a shithole? TargALIENS brought in scum from all over Essos
When Rhaenyra's descendant, Dany, comes to Westeros she burns down the city full of Aegon's descendants (descended from bastards) and Robert's descendants.
>>218065163Cope.
>>218065106Technically, most of the seven kingdoms resisted the Targaryens, most of them were just too weak to oppose dragons. The Dornish had the benefit of having many years to study the matter and devise countermeasures. The first Andal kingdoms to succumb to dragonfire didn't have that luxury. We also don't really know how the North would have fared against the dragons. Presumably, no castle in the north was dragonproof, so it would've become a guerilla war that would've bogged down the Targaryens for years. Of course, it's also a war that would've seen every major settlement in the North burned to ash, and the people scattered and killed if they would not submit. The Starks surrendered not because they couldn't fight the Targs but because they didn't want to pay the price of doing it.
Rhaenyra lost so hard that not even her own son believed in female primogeniture.
If everyone is secretly a Targaryen why don't they become friends?
>>218065106they had the incredible power of...retreating when the dragons were coming to kill them all and hiding in cavestactical masterminds of the realm
>>218065180forced meme not even funny
>>218065031kek
>>218065226All the daggers kept being deflected by his subdermal fat.
>>218065218>Be winner of the dance but your descendants die out next generation >or>be burnt by your enemy, remembered as a usurper, and your decendants die out a few generations later any way The only way I’d consider rhaenyra the “winner” is if dany or Jon ended being heroes who saved the day, but they didn’t so it didn’t really matter that rhaenyras line lived on
>>218065180based meme and unbelievably funny
>>218065097you fucking idiot
The Warrior revived Dunk
>>218065226Daggers couldn’t reach his organs.
Who dead from the trial?
>>218065265Targaryens and Targaryens are natural enemies.Like Targaryens and other Dragonlords, or Targaryens and Rhoynar.
>>218065097kek gay boi
Thoughts on Lucerys?
>>218065310who
What soldiers did the Targaryens have when they began their conquest? Did they bring their guards and soldiers from Valyria? Wouldn't that make their own soldiers also Valyrians that could ride dragons?
For me? It’s Alicent trying to get her goon to gouge some kids eye out
>>218065304just watch the thing retard
>>218065106GRRM's a retard who wanted a muh Vietnam, muh Afghanistan parallel without understanding those were proxy wars between superpowers and occurred during modern times. Guerrilla warfare was impossible during pre-industrial eras, let alone against dragons
>>218065296valarr/baelor's armor is underwhelming
>>218065319I'm too retarded to remember the names, who died?
>>218065300the mother revived dunk
>>218065310strong lad
>>218065315Targaryens lacked the esoteric knowledge and skill sets of the greater families of Valyria. They didn’t even build Dragonstone. They had no access to that form of magic.
>>218065106Dorne really is just a hype and aura kingdom in the end. Nothing about them seems organic. Well, at least they're better explored than Westerlands and Stormlands and not as offensively bland as the Reach.
>>218065054the Kingsgaurd is absolutely swatting the fuck out of him
>>218065292>the house of York won the wars of the RosesI hate colourfaggotry so much it's unreal.These subnormal twitter users have damaged asoiaf discourse to a unimaginable degree.
The last ep airs on my name day, nice.
>>218065315They brought slaves from Valyria who became the small folk of dragonstone, they became aegons first levies, House scales was the main one
>>218065054need an edit of this but the kingsguard has a rolled up newspaper
>>218065106Mother Rhoyne’s final act of revenge was taking advantage of the massive blood sacrifice the Valyrians were unknowingly performing when they incinerated her. Now she lives on in her children’s blood. Their goal is to annoy the Targs at every opportunity. Because magic. Fate. Etc.
>>218065370kek
>>218065106I almost want a Conquest show/movie just to see how they manage to portray Dorne doing the guerilla warfare and taking down Meraxes
do transgender people exist in this universe?
>>218065341Targs had to have been some bastard descended house that only got dragons for that reason. They were among the weakest dragonlords and like you said had absolutely no magical knowledge. They were like the cleganes of Valyria
>>218065406technically
>>218065406Yes, Aerion and Aerys II identified themselves as dragons
>>218065296>Beesworth in B
So it is shown that similar magics exist in different forms, abroad. The trees of the warlocks echo the weirwoods, and their undying masters echo the greenseers. Did the Rhoynar look in their river to see the future the way the red priests looked in their flames?
>>218065406trans people don't even exist in this universe
>>218065420>Yes, Aerion and Aerys II identified themselves as dragonsthat's transpecies
>>218065420>What gender are you:>Male>Female>D R A G O N
>>218065406the faceless men
>>218065406yes, but they're most likely culled quite early in life through either ostracization or being taken out for hunting.i'd imagine they'd be more accepted as curiosities in the free cities or the summer isles mayhaps
>>218065412Makes sense why they were the only ones to heed prophecy and leave Valyria too. The other families probably pissed on them. “Oookay, dreamer lady”.
>>218065406
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>>218065310Kwab
You guys must be really deprived of good TV shows for enduring this clusterfuck of cringy forced unfunny vulgarity, shallow dialogue and characters. Seth Rogens Pineaple Express is a work of art compared to a knight of the seven kingdoms. Embarrassing
I still find it incredibly unlikely that the Targs and the Faceless had anything to do with the Doom, absent something big we’re not seeing. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Faceless had a much bigger temple in Valyria, as they originate there, and it was filled with all sorts of religions.
>>218065455Sharako Lohar is a cisgender female in the books. It doesn't matter if a trans person plays them, the books say cis.
When is the superior show (House of the Dragon) coming back?
>>218065412Look at the other Valyrian houses in the story, they're like pure scum in terms of old hierarchy
The Pendragon Cycle: the rise of Merlin dabs all over this show
>>218065447>yes, but they're most likely culled quite early in life through either ostracization or being taken out for hunting.ITT: making shit up. study real life medieval history. they would be ladies of the night, aka prostitutes.
>>218065488The Doom is mysterious because Martin probably never decided what it was.
>>218065495unfortunately it was canceled after season 1
>>218065310Sopa de Lucerys, uma delicia.
>>218065480Your post is shallow
>>218065318The blackfags keep going on about how greens are obvious bad guys, cartoonish even. But their side routinely does shit that a normal person simply can't even concieve. Like cutting out your half-sibling's eye with a dagger or sending assassins to kill children. Torturing a guy into disability for not giving up the keys to the room with money etc. It seems like George had to make Aemond commit atroicities to offset that shit.
>>218065514Kys
>>218065480>>218065509leave fatty
>>218065495
Faceless men assassinating wizards that led to the Doom is a bit unfeasible since fire magic is seen to counter their magic. Like, Melisandre can see assassination in shocking detail. She’s never afraid.
>>218065509you should join the other retards on the The Pendragon Cycle: the rise of Merlin general then
>>218065495>When is the superior show (House of the Dragon) coming back?HOTD season 1 and AKOTSK season 1 is best ASOIAF universe we have gotten so far. Second half of season 2 was a disappointment. I hope season 3 does better after writers strike.
>>218065339
>>218065449>targ propaganda - we were blessed with prophetic visions that let us escape the doom>reality - exiled to the absolute shithole island of Dragonstone because they were a bunch of violent degenerates too retarded to do anything but ride dragons>for extra trolling the Valyrians left Cannibal on the island so he'd keep eating the Targs dragon eggs and hatchlingstarg bros... reality hurts
>>218065530>kiss your sisterDon't mind if I do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRAoyJ493N4CRITICAL DRINKER LIKED AKOTSK. WE WON CHUDBROS
>>218065558pffffffttttt
>>218065412They are literally the backwoods, incestuous bumpkins of the dragon lords.
>>218065570Was his entire seethe because he never got to fuck Helaena?
>>218065584
>>218065564what the fuck is that thumbnail. doesn't even look like the actors
>>218065592>fuck Helaena?side benefit of being actual ruler
>>218065106it's bullshit by gurm. in no fucking world do they manage to kill the dragon queen and not have everything turned to glass. dorne is the land of deus ex machina
>>218065495We get a HOTD preview tomorrow after that probably 1-3 years
>>218065553It would actually be really funny if there was extra context and nuance to the situation. Maybe all families knew it was coming. Maybe the Targs were cowards and just ran. They didn’t and to deal with it.
>>218065553I wonder if there is any actual connection with Urrax and the Targs, they were too retarded to keep another dragon and it flew off to the mainland and became part of the myth. Although that was well before so idk
>>218065547>HOTD season 1>bestNothing beats the generational run that was S1-S3 of GOT btw. and I say that as a bookfag who wasn't even particularly impressed with S2.
What did dorne do to rhaenys
>>218065564fuck off faggot
>>218065547>HOTD season 1>best ASOIAF universe we have gotten so far
>>218065630I'm of the radical position that S2&3 were incredibly flawed and only the disaster of the later story makes them stand out
>>218065509It's great. No woke shit. No blacks. It's respectful to British history.
>>218065570Why couldn't Velarions look like that. It's so much more immersive than niggers wearing mopheads.
>>218065630We need a remake of GOT starting from S2.Call it Clash of Kings.
>>218065509>Brett CooperShalom!
>>218065627According to George dragons used to be all over once. There’s also the theory that the Hightower was created by the valyrians. George is either hinting at an older dragon civilization pre Valyria or suggesting Valyria is more ancient then we thought and that they used to be involved in Westeros in some way
>>218065544There's a The Pendragon Cycle: The Rise of Merlin general?
>>218065671I know you're shitposting but give it some more time and there will be, if there isn't already, some exec proposing a remake of GoT which is a completely point task due to fat fuck
>>218065687yeah, but it's a subreddit, have fun
>>218065649I'm of the radical position that S4 was abysmal and a strong contender for worst season in the franchise.
>>218065075he was gay Duncan?
>>218065698Oh no I wasn't shitposting. HBO is already doing the "book accurate remake" with Harry Potter right now. The GOT remake is inevitable.
>>218065226he was protected by the fucking GOAT Dragonknight.
>>218065221They both look way too martial. Anyway, do you have the image of Peppe Sunfyre eating screaming Rhaenyra?
>>218065649I remember watching season 1 and going "they made Cersei way too nice" and that was mostly my problem with season 2. That and the stupid changes around Robb's marriage, and a couple other things. Since Rob wasn't long for the story I didn't harp on it too much. It got harder to wave off the stupid shit in season 3. But yeah, season 5 is when I stopped caring about the show because it was just so unbelievably bad.
sex with my man
>>218065721remake of what faggot theres never been a HP tv showThere will never be a GoT remake thats fucking stupid
>>218065564Seriously kys
>>218065708personally even with all the flaws (and there are some bad ones) i'd put akotsk above every piece of asoiaf film but below seasons 1 and 3 of thrones
>>218065682>1999Or maybe he retconned/forgot about having said that.
>>218065059in Kings Landing they call it a bowl of brown
>>218065733>I remember watching season 1 and going "they made Cersei way too nice"Yep. When I told this to my show-only relatives they couldn't believe it, that she was actually even worse in the books. They really softened her image in the show.
>>218065682my take is that there were "natural" dragons that either went further West or just died off. Valyrian dragons are blood magic created abominations based off them but not actually real dragons.
>>218065680have not gotten that far yet to see her. But the acting is better than anything in this show. Trust me. This is not a bad show, but it's not game of thrones. Pendragon is the best fantasy I've seen since game of thrones.
>>218065721>HBO is already doing the "book accurate remake" with Harry Potter right now.Which we already know isn't book accurate.
>>218065564die slowly
>>218065682How did then only the Valyrians be able to harness them?
>>218065768he says in /dunk/
>>218065745>There will never be a GoT remake thats fucking stupidThis is an incredibly stupid thing to say in light of the media landscape. Remakes and sequels are all these fuckwad creatively bankrupt suits are willing to fund. Give it time and we'll see a got remake.
>>218065770Of course it isn't. Hogwarts is going to be 80% darkies
>>218065106GRRM thought the Soviet-Afghan War was interesting and didn't care that the mujahideen needed all of NATO, China, and half of the Middle East sending them weapons and money for their plan to work
What are you faggots talking about Cersei is not "worse" in the books
>>218065106Dorne's olive skin types came from the Chroyane River in Essos when Valyria conquered that river network. The Rhoynar were a union of city-state clans whose top dog got roasted by dragonlords. He swore a haunting vengeance against the Valyrians, so the legend goes to why the Chroyane turns any swimmer into stone men. The one clan to escape was led by Nymeria, and they sailed to Dorne over decades. The Martells welcomed Nymeria and started the intermarriage between First Men and Rhoynar. When Valyrians warred with Rhoynar, the latter had success in repelling the Valyrians for a few decades. You think Balerion was dangerous? Imagine dozens of dragons twice as big trying to burn water magicians using their own river to resist dragon fire. Rhoynar used scorpions in addition to water magic to fight back against dragons. The reigns of Aegon I and Daeron I do not provide us detail to how the Dornish fought back, only that the Dornish ambushed Targaryen invaders once they let their guard down.Even if you exclude water magic and scorpions, the Dornish still kept memory of surviving against dragons. Mock their hiding tactics all you want, they're the only group in Westeros that keep their composure as dragons fly overhead with fire breath. Dornish do not have experience with offensive wars, but they're the experts for burying foreign invaders. Even if you find no value in them as a people, if you claim to rule the continent it is a very bad look to have Dorne remain outside your jurisdiction. No one will take your rule seriously if you did not unify the continent. Targaryens need Dorne in the fold by any means necessary. Those lords who supported Blackfyre failed to see that big picture.
>>218065721>The GOT remake is inevitable.As if we'll ever get another book for that series to be book accurate in the first place.
>>218065721>book accurate>it just fucking stops mid sentenceThere's no way to do an accurate adaption if you don't have the source material to see which B stories matter and how to link everything together, and realistically you'd never get the actors required to sign on for like 15 seasons nor the budget to keep the expanding spectacle going as viewership would drop
>>218065180mediocre meme mildly funny
>>218065406they do have eunuchs which is sort of like being trans
>>218065798She absolutely is. The show added all these scenes that add more context to her, scenes where she's alone with Robert and not a total frigid cunt like the books.
>>218065766I like this theory. Maybe Natural dragons had 4 legs and the fake Valyrian ones had 2, and that’s why George is so autistic about it
Imagine being an Andalcuck or a First Cuck and the Targs won't even give you guys a sniff at marriage but will gladly marry Dornishwomen and give their daughters to Dornishmen. Could not be me.
>>218065106Garin The Greatbasically the Dornish are descendants from long time survivors and rivals of Valyria
>>218065011he didn't see so good
>>218065733Yeah Talisa was bad, I wasn't a fan to the changes to Harrenhal (although Williams and Dance worked surprisingly well), Dany's plot in 2 was B A D and memed even at the time. Probably more things I'm forgetting. Then general complaints that there's a lack of colour and that they went with cheaper fantasy armour and not historical pieces. I do remember 3 losing me in the first episode when Qyburn is just...alive in a hasty corpse pile. Yeah cheers mate, fuck you too for not doing the Brave Companions and Hoat
>>218065798She appears a lot worse in the first book than the first season because of the way the PoVs work. You only get perspectives from people who don't like her. Jon, Tyrion, various Starks. Every time Cersei's in front of one of those PoVs she's a turbo bitch with zero redeeming features, the ultimate evil ice queen. In fact you don't get any Cersei PoV until book 4, which doesn't really redeem her at all in retrospect but does humanize her a little. She seems like an utterly inhuman bitch in the first book.
>>218065779Maybe they were all killed off by the long night, and the Valyrians brought back a version of them with genetic blood magic and made it so only their blood could control them.
>>218065106the north would have done well against the targs in the same way as the dornish, except they'd get insta nuked the second winter came around and all had to hide in their castles. the dornish get to cheat by permanently living all scattered around when they need to
>>218065768>but it's not game of thrones"Is this an endorsement or a critique?"
>>218065798Look up what she did to Blue Bard, nigga. Also all of Robert's bastards and her childhood friend.
so Aerion wanted a trial of seven, not cause he was afraid of Dunk but because he wanted to feel closer to his idol Maegor?
>>218065789Would be accurate if Hogwarts was an inner city school
>>218065267I mean, the Crab Feeder used the exact same tactic in the Stepstones, so hiding an army in a cave from a dragon is a valid tactic.It took Daemon three years to dig them out and nearly got himself killed doing it.
>>218065895no, hes a fucking coward.
>>218065798Cersei in the show seems almost reasonable at times. Cersei in the books is like a cartoon villain.
>>218065564Go commit die
>>218065836There's literally been 3 Andal queens and 1 First Man queen.
>>218065798She was more immoral in the books, but she was worse in terms of characterisation, casting, plotlines etc in the show
>>218065798>>218065827I'm not sure if its the show or just redditors being retarded, but redditors have a habit of discribing Cersei as an "abuse victim". That's one of the excuses they use for "erm actually Cersei isn't all bad" In the books its pretty clear that Cersei deserved both the backhands the book describes>threaten to kill your husbands bastard daughter>*WHACK*>try to get your husband's best friend killed cause he's about to expose your high treason>*WHACK*
>>218065836Blackwoods and Daynes send their regards.
>>218065267Sounds like Afghanistan who BTFO USSR and USSA
>>218065059This is the dornish beauty I was telling you about
Book Cersei lets little finger take Jeyne Poole to pimp her out for literally no reason. He’s just like “i can find somewhere for her” and Cersei just handwaves the whole thing lol
>>218065682>George is either hinting at an older dragon civilization pre Valyria or suggesting Valyria is more ancient then we thought and that they used to be involved in Westeros in some wayDid you even read the world book? It says it quite clear. The pre-Valyrians weren’t human. They were based on the fish men (‘deep ones’) from Lovecraft. Dragons were originally bred in the sea. Bones of dragons might also just be, well, wyverns. Fireless dragons. Valyrians had to splice wyverns with wyrms for them to produce fire. Wyrms are likely parasitic aberrations while wyvern are dinosaurs.
>>218065895He's a coward and also trained enough to know fighting someone twice your size is a bad idea
>>218065959You could fill a thread with the despicable shit she's done and not even have to look outside book 4.
>>218065163>This guy is descended from RhaenyraThat was never the point of the warRahenyra is supposed to create non-bastard babies, not lawsAegon descends from a trueborn baby
Why did't Aerion choose someone else as his champion? One of the Kingsguard, for example.
>>218065895Dunk is almost 7 feet tall and heavily muscled. Even if he's just a hedge squire (not even a real knight) it's pretty intimidating to a guy who gets his jollies by sadistically torturing women and children.
>218061595>what are some spooky loreeverything nightfort related is kino>origin of the rat cook>79 sentinels>symeon star eyes fighting hellhounds>thing that came in the night>dude who called down a curse on the Andals while there>night's king>black gatetake the Old Nan pill, she's right about everything
>>218065959Book cersei is a retard who thinks she's a genius
>>218066007I can't see "night king" and not feel an immense cringe in my soul because of what the show did
>>218065995A knight delegating fighting is a bitch move. Aerion Brightflame ain’t no bitch.
>>218065995Aerion is a coward but he doesn't want to show it, that's why he proposes a trial of seven instead. He thought Dunk would never assemble the squad and get executed without fighting.
Post bee memes
>>218065923>>218065967>>218066000nothing from his fight with dunk tells us he was afraid of dunk
>>218066007>Old "Alex Jones" Nan
>>218066026night's king is based, night king is cringe. Difference between a Stark madman who was so fearless he fucked ice pussy versus some made up white walker leader
>>218065885I mean knight of the seven kingdoms is not game of thrones quality... it's like a youtube short
>>218065964>The pre-Valyrians weren’t human. They were based on the fish men (‘deep ones’) from Lovecraft. Dragons were originally bred in the sea.
>>218066023https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTLmD2kFDm0
>>218066052They buffed him in the showHe got humbled hard by Dunk in the book
>>218066052Not when he has 3 white cloaks at his back, and his daddy.
>>218066063Again, is that a positive or a negative seeing as GoT is both considered really good and really bad not just in terms of artistic quality but also production quality
>>218066023How many times did Lord Dondarrion spaff on those?
>>218065930Did not read your post, stuck staring at Certitties.
>>218065881NO! You fucking IDIOT. They were taught by a “nameless” people from the Shadow. The same people who made the base of the Hightower. This people went around the world pillaging and raping and taking out entire civilizations. They destroyed Lorath, enslaved the ‘thousand isles’, and ‘toad isle’, and likely had strong influence in Leng (its right beside Asshai). Lengii are tall just like the Lorathi and the ‘tall men’ of ancient Essos. The ‘fish queens’ that once inhabited the (now lost) inland seas of Essos were likely literal. Jesus Christ you morons can’t connect the dots. The five forts were once coastal. Yeen and Asshai are the same. The difference is that while the others lost to this fishy maritime race, places like the Iron Island and Battle Isle managed to push them back. Valyria did what the Grey King did except on societal scale. They stole the “living fire”. “It’s always summer beneath the sea”. What lives around deep sea volcanic vents? Worms. What ate/cooked that poor princess alive from within? Wyrms. Dragon eggs stay dormant/fossilized just like… parasitic worms. Dragon riders are bonded to dragons due to a lingering parasitic trait that Valyrian blood mages managed to turn symbiotic.
>>218066066Makes sense why the Yi Ti eat so much sushi
>>218066075Dunk didn't beat him as a knight, he beat him as a flea bottom brawler. Aerion actually did beat him as a knight: he unhorsed him, he knocked him to the ground with his flail. Then Dunk just wailed on him with his shield until he was stuck in the mud and was gonna cave in his skull with a shield rim. There was no finesse or skill at arms, just brute strength.
>>218065827>>218065877The scenes with Robert made no sense, there's no way she'd have a heart-to-heart talk with that nigga. >>218065930She is a victim of abuse if you believe that a man should never beat his wife or that marital rape is a thing. Robert was a brute after all.>>218065924She's surprisingly humanised at times like having a panic attack when Tommen chokes on his wedding or seeing all the people she wronged in the crowd during her walk of shame.
>But muh swor-ACK
>>218065059> When he was young, Ser Duncan the Tall would sell cats, pigeons, and rats to a pot shop in King's Landing.[6] Duncan later observed that Ser Kyle was not interested in the thick brown stew served at the wedding tourney at Whitewalls.[4]
>>218065106Targ secret weapon was dragons, but it's not an insta-win unless you're a retardDornish just said "no u" and kept fighting, and this frightened the (((targs)))
>>218066063Ridiculous. They clearly spent money on costumes, practical effects, and stunt work. I could be wrong but I think if you compare the armor and heraldry side by side you’d see AKOTSK rocks it. Watching the show it’s doesn’t feel “cheap," other than the run time.
>>218065649>>218065630Season 5-8 retroactively ruined got seasons 1-4
>>218065967Stop posting thisIt’s AI
>>218066054>has been in Winterfell longer than anybody>literally nobody knows how long anymore>just says she came to Winterfell to be a wet nurse for "brandon stark">doesn't narrow it down at all, people just assume it was one roughly 80 years ago>has stories from thousands of years ago that nobody else has ever heardI like the schizo theories about her origins, some say she was in the Godswood when Brandon the Builder arrived and he built the walls of Winterfell around her
>>218065163>>218065218House Targaryen loses the throne and goes extinct anyway lmao.
>>218066094GoT will always be king. It's the only show with actual real books to adapt. If you have read them you will prefer it. It's a negative season 4 and onwards but television will never see a show so culturally hyped again.
>>218066142I feel Maleor regrets not beating the shit out of his son instead of doing the stupid trial by seven shit.
>>218066142>egg trying to think aerion to deathkek
>>218066066>Yi-Ti got enslaved by some fishman empire >cope about it by pretending it was really their empire all along KEKJust like irl China copying everything and pretending it’s theirs
So...do you think Cosmere (the work of Brandon Sanderson) can come anywhere close to the level of GoT's success?I genuinely dont know shit about this universe so i have no idea what to expect
>>218065106>Can someone explain to me why the Dornish people in specific have anti-Targ plot armor when the giant scaly nukes worked everywhere else without the meta excuses of "there needed to be someone who'd resist the Targs" and "nobody else thought to give a crossbow steroids before" ?They didn’t fight the dragons head on, at least, before they had a weapon that could take one down.
>>218066138Because it's a spin off show on inferior source material. It's like 25 minutes shorter than Game of Thrones episodes. Game of thrones didn't have half the cast be black people. It was before HBO went completely woke.
>>218066106>Valyria did what the Grey King did except on societal scale. They stole the “living fireMy take is the grey king was initially a fire sorcerer. The ancient custom of the “burning brand”, the black swords that drink souls (ancient valyrian steel). the fire of naga being “drowned” as time passes is the grey king and his people going from fire worshippers to drowned god cultists
>>218066023post more Red pls saar
>>218066161>GoT will always be king.Except in terms of popular perception that very much is not the case, it's mostly crap buoyed by like 2, maybe 3, good seasons. Hell the adaption franchise is running with more losses than wins.> It's the only show with actual real books to adapt.D&E absolutely are real books, in some ways they're better than ASOIAF because due to their bitesized nature they can actually stand alone and not be dragged into the sprawling autistic garden
> NO! You fucking IDIOT. They were taught by a “nameless” people from the Shadow. The same people who made the base of the Hightower. This people went around the world pillaging and raping and taking out entire civilizations. They destroyed Lorath, enslaved the ‘thousand isles’, and ‘toad isle’, and likely had strong influence in Leng (its right beside Asshai). Lengii are tall just like the Lorathi and the ‘tall men’ of ancient Essos. The ‘fish queens’ that once inhabited the (now lost) inland seas of Essos were likely literal. > Jesus Christ you morons can’t connect the dots. The five forts were once coastal. Yeen and Asshai are the same. > The difference is that while the others lost to this fishy maritime race, places like the Iron Island and Battle Isle managed to push them back. Valyria did what the Grey King did except on societal scale. They stole the “living fire”. >“It’s always summer beneath the sea”. > What lives around deep sea volcanic vents? Worms. What ate/cooked that poor princess alive from within? Wyrms. Dragon eggs stay dormant/fossilized just like… parasitic worms. Dragon riders are bonded to dragons due to a lingering parasitic trait that Valyrian blood mages managed to turn symbiotic.Holy shit
>>218066183Brandon Sanderson’s magic system is retarded and half his books are him stopping the story as he attempts to justify why his retarded magic system is as retarded as it is.
>>218066153Old Nan = Night King confirmed, get hype
>>218066190>Game of thrones didn't have half the cast be black peopleBut enough about House of the Dragon?I thought we were talking about AKOTSK
anyone actually going to watch HOTD?
>>218066158Na, Jon is the son of Rhaegar. The show already confirmed it. Even if they lose the throne, he will be spreading his seed and continuing the line in the far north. The Targs were merely a vehicle for the Dagger of Prophecy to get into the hands of the one who ends the Long Night, Arya Ahai, but their reward is the continued existence of the House of Fire through Jon.
>>218066224I disliked house of the dragon as well. A stupid mock history book that has no real story.
>>218066197He would have been a fire sorcerer had he taken what Naga, a dragon, had. Yes. He cast aside the Seastone chair and made his own. That implies he didn’t like whoever came before. He also took a mermaid as a wife. Perhaps some of the fishmen took his side. I don’t know.This fishy race still exists in modern day. Some people have webbed hands and feet. Some still see them coming onto shore.
>>218066102Not many, he prefers to not pull out
>>218066230>he will be spreading his seednot when he's undead and can't breed according to GRRM AND rejoined the night's watch lmao
>>218066226Yeah meIt's still fun enough
>>218066207>GOTalready had issues in the first episode with Catelyn Stark being gutted politically when she told Ned he had to go to King's Landing to figure out what was going on, in the show she's a stereotypical house wife who wants him to stay.
>>218066230>Na, Jon is the son of Rhaegar. The show already confirmed it.hahaha point and laugh
>>218066148I saw them with my own two eyes
Oily black =/= Fused black.For whomstever it may concern.
Any lore friends? Are all Beesburys this based? Do they have cool lore. Teach me about the bees please
>>218066197> the black swords that drink souls (ancient valyrian steel)Valyrians likely “tempered” their final product (Valyrian steel swords) by plunging it into the chests of their slaves. A blood sacrifice is the final ingredient. Nissa Nissa.
Why don't the people of Westeros go and try and tame some Wyverns? They already know you can tame Dragons, who are more dangerous. You think someone would have a go, at least. I would put money into it if I was a rich Westerosi Lord.
>>218066230>Arya ahai
>>218066144S4 was always shit.
>>218066255I’ve always found it weird that George has never commented on that when he absolutely flipped his shit on D&D for changing Robb’s wife.
Why did Joffrey send the catspaw?
I just had a great fucking tv show ideaAn adapation of Don Quijote in a ASOIF similar universeDon Quijote is reading books about ser duncan and other knights xD
>>218066226I didn't plan to, initiallyBut the leaked Aegon speech got me so fucking hype that I might actually torrent it
>>218066258They literally got the contract because they successfully determined that R+L=J. Cope and seethe,
>>218066262Interesting. Why do you say this, and how does it change stuff?
>>218066207Dunk and Egg have no connection to the story. I don't give a shit about dunk. I want to know what happens in winds of winter. Everything in ASOIAF is better. We don't need the holes filled in. That's stupid Disney tier crap. But you probably have never read the books.
>>218066274>I’ve always found it weird that George has never commented on that when he absolutely flipped his shit on D&D for changing Robb’s wife.NDA
>>218066258What do we call this level of contrarian retardation?
>>218066275Cause he's an evil little shit and it made sense to his warped brain. >everybody's upset about this dumb northnigger who fell out a window>I dunno why but mum wants him dead>I know!>I'll arrange for him to die, conveniently, so we can forget about him!
>>218066255There are a number of smaller arguments you could make regarding S1 that there were cracks from the start, E1 is also awkward because it's a spliced pilot made ages apart which you can spotAlso they need to release the Bloodmoon tapes so we can observe the car crash
>>218066259NOOOONOT CUTENOT CANON>>218066262Are you the same oily =|= greasy retard It’s clear that the fused stone was at the Hightower was built by the same people who built the oily Seastone chair. God you’re so pedantic you’re retarded. You remind me of the Elden Ring faggots that say crap like “omg the black moon is not the dark moon omg” even though the game LITERALLY POINTS TO IT (both are described as cold and leaden).
>>218066190>inferior source material
>>218066286What was the speech?
>>218066230in the books Arya playing a role in ending the Long Night actually makes sense considering how tied into death and magic she is with the Faceless Men. She'd be the most logical choice for being Jon's Nissa Nissa to make Lightbringer
>>218066275He foresaw Canadian healthcare
>>218065097he wanted to work for the heir and future king, what the fuck do you think lmaodunk was still completely destitute at that point, he risked his last things joining the tourneybecoming part of the heirs retinue would have been insane
Any Macumber theories?
>>218066287>successfully determinedStolen off the internet more like. I refuse to believe those two dickheads figured it out on their own.
>>218066293I think I've read everything from the franchise and you sound like a nutcase
>>218066259aerion is so qt i wish dunk showed him his trial of seven inches
>>218066268Because wyverns are literal dinosaurs. Some are massive. Some are the size of chickens but roam in packs. They could only be tamed by Valyrians. Likely due to them splicing them with the more intelligent wyrms (“who had no love for men”). Those wyrms also had “hands and faces” and had disturbing voices. They might be an intelligent species like the children of the forest. Or maybe they work like Xenomorphs and take on the qualities of their hosts (I prefer this), and that would explain how blood mages did their thing. Both could be true.
>>218066326I was just starting secondary school when I started these books and I figured it out, it's not exactly subtle.
i accidentally my baratheon foldercan anyone share some Lyonel or Bobby B memes?
>>218066290>Why do you say thisBecause there's a tendency to conflate sites left behind by peoples using the fused black stone we know for a fact that the Valyrians worked and the oily black stone that occurs in the proximity of Lovecraftian seaniggers.
>>218065967damn Aerion's actor looks so much better with the bleached silver hair. He looks like idubbz's brother with brown hair
>>218066274trying to make Cat more sympathetic is bad but doesn't completely ruin her character, changing Robb's wife absolutely destroys his character. He goes from a tragic idiot trying to do the right thing, to a horny teenager who deserves his death for being a selfish retard. GRRM did seethe about Lady Stoneheart not being included
>>218066326It's not even a difficult theory to conjure up, a casual reader can come up with it and I refuse to believe it is canon until the books confirm/deny it which will be...
>>218066293You talk like a retard. Absolutely zero soul.
>>218066287They got it because the son of the Goldman Sachs executive bought George the most expensive meal on the menu.
Is the fish schizo actually on to something? Are dragons abominations from the deep?
>>218066122That's what Aerion deserved for being a targ piece of shit. He got beaten gutter rat style.
>>218066366Also all the alleged schemes with a pregnant and hiding Jeyne Westerling plus his will get completely wiped
>>218066310Forgive me for posting a tiktok link, but this shit was taken down everywhere elsehttps://www.tiktok.com/@draconix.edits/video/7539009851100269846
>>218065106they just fled the cities when the targs attacked and then did guerilla warfareAegon didn't have enough dragons
>>218066324I said it because the thread is full of people like >>218066338
>>218066348>>218066372And yet George saw that as the deal breaker question. I guess he deserves to watch the adaptations turn to shit for such low qualifications.
>>218066382He bought Martin 30 minutes with Sibel Kekilli
They keep seething
>>218066122that's what should have been in the show. it would have been both more satisfying and shorter.
>>218066386I 100% believe that something truly evil was buried under the Fourteen Flames.
>>218066373>>218066334Dunk and Egg is just more coffee table slop George wrote as a side hustle. It's literally based off a disney cartoon
What is it about Baelors? Why are they so good?
>>218066354YOU DUMB WHORE WITH A FAT ARSE
>>218066416>Kaplowitz
The houses are a lot more comfy when they're just killing each other during tournaments instead of actually going to war with each other.
>>218066416Quick rundown? Are liberals accusing a fictional setting based on the UK as being too pro white? It’s fiction. It’s also based on England and Western Europe so there should be no niggers involved.
>>218066410Martin says all sort of weird nonsense, I can't imagine he's telling the truth most of the time, especially with how honest he is about his writing
>>218066391MYFUCKINGKING
>>218066379>The poets on the TL over to yoIs that what Baelor would sound like if he survived? WHAT the fuck does it mean?
>>218066436That's the point of tournaments. It lets knights be knights and get the aggression out of their systems but without as many funerals.
>>218066287No it was because of Jew money which they had a lot of. Having a dad who was a higher up at the federal reserve can get you anything.
>>218066364You’re a fucking moron. The connection between the oily Seastone chair and the fused stone of the Hightower is clear for all to see.
>>218065221They will 100% remove these lines and that saddens me
>>218066391damn
>>218066421and ASOIAF was his side hustle from trying to break into Hollywood, and Disney stories used to be a seal of quality, a knight and his squire going on adventures is an excellent basis
>>218066275Because George changed his mind about who was behind it and needed to pull some bullshit out of his ass so that plot thread could have some resolution at the end of the War of the Five Kings arc. It was probably going to just be Jamie originally because he hadn't decided to give him a redemption arc and he was just going to be a standard villain. He also hadn't decided on how rare Valyrian steel was.Then the show just forgot to resolve it lmao
>>218066305>it's clear that these two materials with different characteristics are the same... because it just is>autismal tiradeNot serious behavior. You lower the quality of discussion with your confirmation-seeking wishful reading.
>>218066389removing Robb's will scene and replacing it with a scene that is the exact opposite to make Catelyn look better was one of the worst changes in the entire show>will scene has fucking iconic dialogue, some of the best in the book. Cat is a cunt who hates Jon to the bitter end. Shows that she cares more about what she wants than what's best for House Stark. Embodies everything about her character>instead we get Cat crying about how things might have been different if she kept some promise to the Gods to care for Jonit was leaving out scenes like that in early seasons that provded D&D were hacks and the show was headed for disaster, same for the Tysha reveal with Jaime and Tyrion. Destroyed character arcs
>>218066391BEHOLD ME NOWI AM AEGON TARGARYEN, SECOND OF HIS NAMEI AM VISERYS’ TRUE HEIRSIXTH KING OF ANDALS AND THE RHOYNAR AND THE FIRST MEN!I WAS ANNOINTED BY THE HIGH SEPTON IN THE LIGHT OF THE SEVEN AND IT IS IN THEIR LIGHT THAT I STAND BEFORE YOU NOWSTRIKE ME DOWN AND THE STRANGER HIMSELF WILL TAKE RETRIBUTIONTHE WARRIOR'S SWORD WILL BE JUDGEMENT UPON YOUYES! YOU MAY WELL DRAW BACKFOR NOW YOU SEE ME AS I AMDREADFUL IN VENGEANCERIGHTEOUS AND GLORIOUS
>>218066471Cope. Whoever built the oily black stone shit had access to fused stone technology. Asshai is greasy/wet and sucks in the light. The ancient nameless original inhabitants of Asshai are also said to have been the ones to have brought dragons to Valyria. You’re a dense motherfucker. You just believe what you want to believe.
>>218066286>>218066391>>218066445>>218066487Rhaenyra is the rightful queenViserys said soAegon is not the legal heir, he's a usurper
>>218066445I-i'm not ready to see her go bros... She singlehandedly got me to believe that women are not naturally evil...
>>218066479>cut Moonboy/Kettleblacks>have to cut the Moonboy/Kettleblacks lineWell Jaime's story was ruined completely then anyway with the Bronn adventures (yes I know the Payne actor was dying)
>>218066087>Not when he has 3 white cloaks at his back, and his daddy.they didn't intervene at all
>>218066438leftists getting upset that right-wingers are enjoying the show (since it's mostly a bunch of European knights being chivalrous but in a fantasy setting).
>>218066471It’s not said that the base wasn’t oily or greasy. It’s not said that the sea stone chair wasn’t fused (I don’t buy someone being able to carve such a thing otherwise).
>>218066469Interestingly, both Jaime and Tyrion both separately concluded on their own that Joff was the one behind it.
>>218065106Gurrm might be one of the worst worldbuilders out there, but even he understands that nomads and pastoralists can just move their entire subsistence base somewhere else and elude foreign invaders. There's not much to burn or occupy in Dorn. In the show and books we mostly see the water gardens palace, but 90% of Dorn is more like old testament Israelites where your number 1 social status is how many sheep you own.
>>218066519A grave mistakeWomen on your screen are not the same vile beasts that roam the earth irlDo not fall for their lies and propaganda.
>>218066510What if I think viserys is a poopyhead
>>218066521Season 5 was just atrocious storytelling and TV in general. It wasn't just a total butchery of the source material (in fact it barely adapted anything) it was dumbfuck writing, period.
>>218066487seeg this nigga with blackfyre giving me the ick
>>218066523Show me more. I enjoy lefty seethe.
>>218066522Not for lack of trying
>>218065406Tyrion meets a hermaphrodite named Sweets.
>>218066561
>>218066510Viserys is not an absolute monarch, he is a feudal one, and as such should consult his vassals if he wants to change the law, and change it properly.Aegon is the rightful king of westeros by law, as posterior legal theorists of westeros will all agree on, down to Stannis mentioning Rahenyra as usurper proving westerosi law had decided her cause to be unjust, mind you, her own son and her own line would mantain this position, that she was the usurper.
I stopped enjoying the show the moment they pretended the Rhoyne was Valyria. “The smoking sea” LMAO no that’s just a foggy ass river. You wouldn’t be able to even get close to the Doom.
>>218066560He bore 'da sword.
>>218066576>her own son and her own line would mantain this position, that she was the usurper.Prove it. I don't recall them saying that in the books.
>>218066523>since it's mostly a bunch of European knights being chivalrousThe show is a tiny number of knights being chivalrous while the rest are dishonorable cunts
>>218066552>Season 5 was just atrocious storytelling"So it matches the storytelling from Feast and Dance"Rather facetious but some people did agree at the time, oh well at least they got their Star Wars project
>>218066541Dorne's entire economy is based on selling wine, spices, and citrus. All easily destroyed by dragons and they'd be sent back to the stone age. Why the hell would the Dornish lords and smallfolk go along with this for the Martells pride? Dorne background lore is 100% retarded and goes against everything GRRM focuses on with regards to disloyal vassals. It's even worse because he didn't release that shit until 2014, he had plenty of time to think about it but still put out that retarded shit
>>218066550no legos for you
>>218066457I'm sure it's clear for you to see because you're really invested in it being the case, failed a typology check so hard that you believe that every worked stone object of the same color has a common point of origin, and subscribe to some hyper-diffusionist idiocy because you simply lack the mental fortitude to imagine more than one material culture working in black stone.This is the death of the unseen vistas Martin employs for his wider universe, by the way. He uses vague references to paint a picture of a world full of different cultures and teeming with antiquity and wiki-readers trample all over it because they struggle with reading comprehension.
>>218066574>politicaltards coming inEvery time
Just finished watching S1 and S2 of HotD.The fall in quality between seasons is staggering. What the fuck happened?
>>218066597Tomato tomahtoe
>>218066608>and citrusDo not start!
>>218066463There are way more knights and squires in ASOIAF
>>218066595Because that's what Stannis was taught in history books she was the usurper, and since Rahenyra's descendants have ruled after her this version of history was made under their regime.Aegon II was followed by Aegon III son of Rahenyra, this is the accepted westerosi consensus on which monarchs ruled.
>>218066574How are chudbros going to react to Rohanne Webber (strong woman) and John the Fiddler (gay as fuck)?I'm expecting a million HBO WENT WOKE rants
>>218066620Female showrunner(s)
>>218066610> I'm sure it's clear for you to see because you're really invested in it being the caseAsshai is a fusion of those two qualities, as well as through sheer implication. You are being an autistic person who cannot see the overlap. You love to shove shit in to neatly packaged boxes. You’re the same sort of idiot who thinks there’s a difference between magic and miracles.
>>218066580>wouldn't even be able to get close to the doom>mindbreak humans via torture and drugs>warg them and walk right in to gather treasure until they drop dead>repeat until you have a dragon egg and valyrian steel armorbased Euron
>>218066607>oh well at least they got their Star Wars projectKek
>>218066626What the fuck are you even gibbering about you absolute ape? ASOIAF is clearly a grand story where he decided to make all the main characters having to deal with the operatic elements, while D&E is just cool dudes hanging out without any larger stakes
