>>218088263
You know how everbody hates Skylar, and nobody hates Carmela Soprano? It's because at no point there's a scene where Carmela says
>Tony, you should stop this gangster stuff, the whole reason people watch the show!
With Skylar, it's her whole character. She, and the loser cripple son, are hogging attention away from the exciting criminal storylines, cooking meth and surviving the wrath of the mexican cartels. I don't want to see Walter talking to her about breakfast, I want to see Walter try to talk himself out of being murdered.

>>218088263
>happy birthday husband single-handedly working to support me and our disabled son, here’s a lazy handjob while I shop on eBay
Genuine villain shit

i watched BB with the intention of seeing things from her POV and i hated her more.
the bitchiness. the inconsiderate nature. the utter refusal to hear walt out when she's not involved and then complete blind adherence to shit once it's her idea (in her head).
loses her shit over some weed. walks into a pool trying to drown herself with total distegard for what it'd do to her children, just because she thinks they're safer with a guy heavily involved with cartel and shit as part of his job. simply does not give a shit about anyone else.

>>218088263
>husband
>rapes

>>218088320
skyler did a bunch of illegal shit for walt to further the criminal enterprise you retard, tony purposely kept carm not involved

>>218088380
Also if he was telling the truth about the fugue state her behavior afterwards where she starts ghosting him is psycho shit. It only makes sense with the meta knowledge of the viewer. Even if she had a reason to doubt - cancer-drug fueled fugue state (she really doesn’t) from her POV the most reasonable hypothesis is that Walter tried to commit suicide in the desert because of his cancer diagnosis

>>218088426
>skyler did a bunch of illegal shit for walt to further the criminal enterprise you retard
For one season, where she was tolerable. Then she reverted to being a nagging whore I don't want to see on the screen.

>>218088263
She wasn't the villain but very annoying and a bitch

>>218088380
There’s no better example of the IQ bell curve meme than attitudes toward Skyler. Dunning-Kruger midwits worship her

>>218088444
yes another situation where her entire concern is how it affected her and sorta walt jr.

though he does have that duper's delight look while he describes his actions prior to the claimed fugue state. always thought cranston did good acting as a liar in that scene

>>218088263
She was an annoying bitch, simple as. That's enough to make her a villain.

>>218088506
they're so fucking adamant about it that i felt i had to try and see their side of things in earnest because i sure wasn't seeing it before. and nope, still don't see it, even after an entire rewatch of a series with the mindset of "how does this woman feel in the current situation and how is it affecting her decisions?"

>>218088263
That's silly. You can't rape your wife, she's YOUR wife.

bitch mommy

>>218088546
Yeah I did the same thing but all I could think about is how inappropriate she was behaving for a person whose spouse has terminal cancer. There’s a huge latitude of behavior you’ll put up with when you’re watching a loved one die of cancer (at least in my own personal experience)

>>218088380
She is a walking woman moment who only gets to not be the worst person in the story because Walt is a monster surrounded by other monsters.

>>218088775

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>>218088263
You can't rape the willing.

>>218088380
for me, it's the uncontrollable seething at 110% capacity after walt conveniently mentions a second phone in the vaguest sense possible for every millisecond walt is within a 50 yard radius of her.

>>218088263
Raped? Are you high?

>>218088900
Hank was one lucky bastard.

>>218088380
It's a writing issue. She's irrelevant for most of the show, she just needs to be vaguely upset at Walt while doing nothing. They should have written her differently because by S5 she is completely complicit in his meth empire.

>>218088263
I'd imagine most middle class wasp-ish women are like her though. Imo if you want a woman who will turn a blind eye to your illegal activities or even get involved you gotta go browner or poorer unfortunately.

>>218088263
skylers problem is that she also watches the show

>>218089052
Even if she completely believes the second phone theory, the only reasonable explanation is that Walter is just still buying weed from Jesse. I think it’s such a frustrating situation for the audience because she doesn’t even attempt to find out what is happening with her husband. She doesn’t follow him, investigate his belongings, nothing. She just behaves cunty and nothing else. And so the possibility that she could simply be torturing her cancer addled husband who is innocent of wrongdoing entirely remains

>>218088263
would people hate her less if Walt fucked Lydia? Someone fucking Lydia was thrown around the writers room, even Jesse for some reason

>>218089221
I’d hate her less if she fucked Lydia

>final episode in 2013
Breaking bad is bad, we can all agree.
You don’t need to bait a thread for yous.
At least pick something interesting next time.

>>218088444
The episode just after the fugue state is when I really started disliking her, even though I already had issues with her since the first episode. That's when she starts ghosting him and also when she starts smoking during pregnancy.

>>218089209
she starts seething so hard once she kinda reasonably suspects walt is lying to her at all. she doesn't care to find out why as you said, she buys none of his explanations and just keeps seething harder and harder every time while he could be lying for a trillion trivial reasons, but she doesn't care.
i guess it's a realistic protrayal of the female mind at least.

>>218088263
Marital rape is a nonsense concept. Its impossible to rape your wife.

>>218088263
Most women i know watching this show also said “i dont get the hate” beside her happy birthday Ted dance
They clearly can empathize with her

>>218089278
women don't hate skyler because she's uglier than them.

>>218089286
Bitch pls, by your logic no woman would watch those k-drama

>>218089328
gooks look too different for this instinct to kick in. k-dramas is escapism for women

It is literally impossible to rape your spouse. It's possible for them to not be into it and not put forth any effort. But if you want to fuck, then you fuck.

>>218088263
People are watching breaking bad to see flawed protagonist walt doing fun criminal stuff. People don't hate her as a person, they hate that she kills the vibe.

>>218089365
i hate her as a person

>>218089110
The complicity is great in making her a generally shitty person but is a huge reason why she isn't the hero redditors keep making her out to be. She's a gigantic fence-sitter who was more than willing to reap the benefits until things started getting uncomfortable for her.
>>218089209
Some of this is the frame IMO, which is not a complaint. Skyler is in a lot of ways the embodiment of Walt's old life that he now looks back on with disgust. Her being shitty and extractive instead of supportive is part of what made Walter chimp out instead of dying as a docile, sick man.
>>218089221
I don't think so - or at least they shouldn't. It would just make Walt more of a piece of shit, which he already is. It takes more than Walt being evil for Skyler to be a good guy.
>even Jesse for some reason
We all know why people were pitching a sex scene

>>218089364
>>218089275
>Incels actually believe this

>>218089459
wives literally owe their husbands sex

>>218089364
Rape is only rape when the person being raped violently resists, honestly.

>>218089209
I always thought it was intentional that she is an overbearing trophy wife who sucked all the life out of walt and his aspirations. She never once seems to genuinely care about him. Isn't it implied walt jr.'s cerebral palsy was cause by her smoking during pregnancy too? Showrunners probably panicked that viewers liked walt too much and had to start pretending she was a good person by the end of the show

>>218089802
I think this could well be the case. She's a very well written character if so.

>>218089499
>>218089275
>>218089364
Brown jeet hands typed this post

>>218088444
Exactly. As the viewer, we know when Walt is lying, but she never fucking believes him even though she has no legitimate reason to doubt him.
I had the same problem with Better Call Saul, when Chuck "figures out" exactly what Jimmy did with changing the numbers. He wasn't justified AT ALL in suspecting that Jimmy did that shit, there was zero evidence, and yet he somehow just knows it down to every detail? Fuck that. It's just plain shitty writing. And it's the same when Skyler "knows" Walt is lying about the fugue state and the second cell phone even though she has ZERO reason to think he's lying and EVERY reason to believe his story.

>>218090120
this cope will never become real, jestermaxxer

>>218089365
No we definitely hate her as a person. She's a cunt.

>>218088466
The worst is Skylar holier than thou attitude after SHE also did illegal shit.

>>218088263
yes. moids are evil.

>>218090183
You don't get it Anon, she only did that because she was FORCED to!

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>>218090122
>but she never fucking believes him even though she has no legitimate reason to doubt him
it's like walt hasn't built an ounce of trust with her in their previous sixteen freaking years of marriage

>>218090231
And yet Kim still Skylars-out at the end there.

>>218088263
I get how Walt’s story would be awful from her POV, but her character doesn’t have a lot going for her, and really is just nothing more than a prop in Walter’s plot. Hence why I find her boring (boring ≠ unlikeable). Walter is a flawed character you love to hate, and Skyler is a character that’s just meh.

she was gladly breaking bad for beneke

>>218090399
Her name is SKYLER you fucking jeet.

>>218088263
So this bitch births Walt a retard son and offers no niceness to her husband in the beginning of the show. She offers weak support when her relatively cozy life is shaken by Walt’s cancer, and is quick to distrust him despite him having been loyal and providing of her for 2 decades.

She’s quick to help her grabby thieving sister but will admonish Walt for slight suspicions that she shouldn’t have to begin with. Let’s not forget the money, the money for her children. The money for her retard son and future gimped offspring, since she partakes in smoking. She has no reason to spitefully smoke during pregnancy when her pervious child can’t even walk or talk normally. She gave away Walt Jrs. college fund for a booty call.

>>218088900
He should have cheated on her with superior Marie. Then turn her out be ause the thrill of vheating and his attitude gets her off.
Walt wants to throw it in her face but that Marie pussy got him acting unwise and Skyler is already kneck deep in the business.
Then ended the season with Marie pregnant with walts do over son, divorced and sitting on a fat wad of cash meeting up with the thought to be dead Walter white
While styler is a retard with a kid that may or may not be walts living with regret.

>>218090153
Rather a jester than a jeet

>>218088263
>Do people just hate women?
yeah, are you new on earth or something?

>>218092391
Lol buzzwords

>>218088320
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>>218089275
If you are not emptying your husband's balls at least once a day you can't complain when he cheats. It's a biological thing

>>218088320
lmao what a retarded reasoning.

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>>218088263
>husband literally rapes her

>>218088426
oh yeah? I guess the money she took from the bird feeder just appeared out of nowhere.
and Tony leaning on the construction inspector? he can get quite heavy.

>>218090183
This is it for me. The rest of her shitty behavior doesn't barr her from being heroic and opposing Walter, it's the fact that she sat the fence.
Anyone with a brain can tell from her behavior that if Walter had lucked out and wound up with a Gus-tier operation - that is to say all the dirt but plenty of plausible deniability and esteem in the community - she never would have turned. That's not ethics it's narcissistic survivalism.
>>218091036
This is the quiet part if you ask me.
Walter is a self destructive jackass, but Skyler is an aloof self-obsessed fucking loser. It's wrong to blame her for Walt going off the deep end but it seems very reasonable to say that her being a dogshit unsupportive wife certainly didn't help matters.

>>218090231
I really wish Kim died, stupid cunt single-handedly ruined the last season of BCS.

>>218096034
believe it or not you still do need your wife's consent

>>218088263
Post the scene where the rape happens otherwise it's just your "implied" headcanon which proves all women have rape fantasies that never happened because they're degenerate subhumans

>>218096042
>if Walter had lucked out and wound up with a Gus-tier operation - that is to say all the dirt but plenty of plausible deniability and esteem in the community - she never would have turned. That's not ethics it's narcissistic survivalism.
nice ChatGPT

>>218088263
In my head cannon, she was the one that forced Walt to leave Gray Matter before it went big. Probably because he was getting too cozy with the other chick.

>>218090122
the BCS one at least makes some sense, he despises jimmy and is unhinged already, knows jimmy likes to pull scams, the numbers are different to what he remembers so it's an easy leap to just blame jimmy for it (whether true or not)
skylar was just a self centered bitch

>>218089080
>he was a little rough with me! Even though he stopped the second I said "No" it was still rape!

>>218088263
Kim is worse imo.

>>218096417
OP is literally copying the rape talking point from reddit
That should tell you everything
And women's best selling books are pretty much rape smut

>>218096315
Which you obtained through marriage, and which is revoked through divorce.

>>218096332
I'm so tired of retards thinking that em dashes mean AI. Fuck this gay earth and fuck the AI slop that makes it worse.
The point is that Sklyer is a fucking fence sitter who clearly would have continued benefiting from Walter's crimes if things had panned out better.

Is that base enough monkey speak for you, you illiterate fuck?

>>218095959
bobs & vagne bloody bitch

>>218088263
Skyler could have ended it all at any point by going to the police.
She is the only character in the show that when given the opportunity to do the right thing, never does it.

>>218096606
Exactly. Then has the nerve to act self-righteous.

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>>218096444
>divorce

The first couple times I watched Breaking Bad, I thought Walt was the hero. Skylar and Gus were bad. Jesse was just a sort of tacked on pity boy. I also happened to be a teenager.

When I watched Breaking Bad as an adult, it is very obvious that Walt is manipulating everyone. He is afraid of Gus when he has no reason to be and uses Jesse to fuck with him. Skylar is using everything in her power to get away from him. Everything people claim is cringe about her is really just what a person would do, realistically, to get a mega-turbo evil drug lord to divorce them so they can be free of the guilt by association.

>>218097237
>Skylar is using everything in her power to get away from him.
Except for, you know, going to the police?

>>218088263
yes

>>218097237
Interesting, so you were normal at one point and grew up into a retarded simp. I wonder how that happens

>>218097237
Hank is the closest thing to a hero.
Jesse is THE antihero. He's the heart of the show.
Walter is a villain even though he's the protagonist.
Skyler literally *does not do everything in her power* to get away from Walter. She needed to have exactly one conversation with Hank during one of Walter's many absences to bring the whole thing down and save countless people.
She didn't do this. Why? Not as you say because she's some incompetent frazzled housewife, because she is constantly shown as the confident, decisive one of the marriage.
She doesn't rat out Walter because she wants to see if he wins and she gets to reap the benefits. She only grows a spine once it's clear he's going to self-destruct.

>>218088358
I don't know why she survived the series. Horrible show.

>>218096039
Skylar stole a lot more cash than Carmella did and gave it to Ted who she was fucking who then lost all of it or stole it idr and oh yeah Skylar was literally running the money laundering operation.

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>>218088358
>single-handedly
she likely made more money than loser teacher Walt
while taking care of the gimp son
while dealing with everyones shit

>>218097264
She wanted a divorce, Walt refused.

>>218097349
She literally had no job though?

>>218097349
>she possibly makes more money than him so her treating him like garbage is ok
woman moment

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>>218097353
Gee if only her brother in law was an ASAC with the DEA. Then maybe she could have asked for help.

>>218097349
You will never be a woman tranny

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>>218097383
>she possibly makes more money than him so her treating him like garbage is ok
but the claim was that Walt gets to treat her like garbage, rape her, because he single-handedly works for the family

>>218097413
She gave Walt a great out.
She keeps her mouth shut. All he needs to do is sign the divorce papers.
I don't get it, why is this not a great deal for Walt?

>>218088320
Junior became a number one opp and faggot piece of shit the moment he called the cops and lied to them about Walt attacking Skyler with a knife when Skyler LITERALLY tried to fucking kill him 20 seconds ago and he has a gaping knife wound on his hand as a result of her attempt.

>>218097427
>the claim was that Walt gets to treat her like garbage, rape her, because he single-handedly works for the family

how do you get that from >>218088358
>happy birthday husband single-handedly working to support me and our disabled son, here’s a lazy handjob while I shop on eBay

?
Just forget to take your pills?

>>218097439
Why are you moving the goalposts?
The entire point of Breaking Bad is that he is on a self-destructive LARP session because as Heisenberg for the first time in his life he feels like a cool guy who matters. He makes illogical choices against his self-interest constantly.
For Walter, in his delusions, getting divorced would be a humiliation that he will do blackfips to avoid.
The question is why Skyler, who is not currently flushing her life down the toilet to be a drug lord, does likewise by fence-riding and collaborating with Walter instead of going to the Feds if she's such a moral person?

>>218097439
>his ex wife is going to keep her mouth shut when she can fuck him over by not keeping her mouth shut
How stupid are you. I hope you don’t have a wife/gf/ex wife. Some people are just born victims I guess

>>218097533
It's even dumber to continue making meth while still being married. The stupid decision was made when he started making meth. She gave him a good out.
>>218097517
I only entered the conversation to remind you she wanted a divorce.
I don't give a fuck if she's a good person or not. Just don't gloss over the fact that she wanted nothing to do with this at first.

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>>218097509
I literally just listed what else he did
if that commenter and you are focusing on handjob you somehow kinda missed lot of the story

and in any case I proven that the original poster was a retard to kinda missed she had a job, yet you are here ready to be outraged on their behalf

Now please retard #2 tell us how she treated him like garbage

>>218097583
She can’t be compelled to testify against him as his wife. And her fate is somewhat tied to his as long as they are married. If they divorce she is snitching, period. That’s just how women are, and if you watch the show she hates him, and would love to fuck him over. Women are petty

>>218088320
>the loser cripple son,
I always wish Walt told lil crippy that faggot whiny Jesse was more of a son to him than his own defective no-legs gimp son.

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>>218096039
literal chicken feed to a guy like Tony Soprano.

>>218097608
>uh actually I was talking about everything that every happened not the instance you two were discussing
lol
the fact that you unironically posted the goalposting pic earlier is just the cherry on top

>>218097583
My bad for presuming you were the same guy, classic 4chan bullshit.
Never meant to gloss it over. All these things are true:
>Sky was happier in her mid yuppie existence before Walt blew it up
>Sky was a middling wife who didn't respect her husband or make him feel valued
>Sky does not - in general - support criminal activities, but twice when she is tempted by benefiting from them chooses to enable them to try and get that benefit
>Sky's offer of divorce is 100% in Walter's best interest objectively, but by the time she puts the offer in front of him he finds the entire concept unthinkable because he's mid-implosion
>Sky does not get to be the moral paragon people keep making her out to be when she refused to loop in the DEA and stop the whole disaster when she could have

>>218097631
You contradict yourself in your reply.
If she wanted to fuck him over she would just testify of her free will. Being married does not help with that at all.
And her fate being tied with him is even more cause for her to go snitching. Not when she's fully in it but before then it is.

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>>218097744
okay but just to be clear that was her only option, right?
give it to ted and force him to pay the IRS?
now, it IS her fault for cooking his books like a fucking hypocrite instead of reporting it or simply quitting
but given the situation they're actually in, it WAS the only option to avoid them being investigated by the IRS as a result of Ted, right?
what other options legal or criminal do they have? kill Ted?

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>>218097675
>whines he is single earner
>point out its a lie
>whines that just cuz she makes more money does not excuse being mean or some unspecific imagined shit
goal post pic sure applied
why do you incels make your existance about skylar is beyond me
why not just go jump from tall building or catch a train already

>>218097784
If you really wanted to make me sad you'd drink my cum.

>>218097738
Your problem is you don’t understand women. She’s his wife, she’s smart enough to know that a) she could easily catch legal strays even if she’s the one to go to the police and b) the cops are going to take everything from both of them, she will end up with nothing most likely. Meanwhile, if she divorces him, she makes off with whatever money and assets she can, and she’s free and clear. If they are divorced the cops are much less likely to think she’s involved. But lastly and most importantly, she will be an ex wife sitting there imagining her ex husband out there getting away with something. This is something a woman can NOT abide under any circumstances. Sounds like the fictional character Walt was smarter then you

>>218088320
Ackshually she does at one point when Tony is in the hospital. Difference is though Tony is criminal scum by nature whereas Walt is breaking bad. It wouldn’t make sense for Skylar to just be totally fine with this

>>218097825
>she will be an ex wife sitting there imagining her ex husband out there getting away with something. This is something a woman can NOT abide under any circumstances.

Getting away with something?
Like hidden money?
Did it look ever like she cared about money?

>>218097866
Alright you had a good run, but you blew it. Had me going though I’ll admit

>>218097774
She could kill Ted ricin or at least force him to liquidate his company and declare bankruptcy.

>>218097825
Your solution is to include Skyler in the operation as opposed to getting her far away from it.
You're injecting women into your high risk activity.
If she's really petty you can do a few things.

1. Give her cash. You make plenty of money, drop some cash on her so she can live comfortably.
2. Threaten to bring her down with you if she ever talks. Can easily be done, he could frame Hank so he sure could do it with her.

Skyler is a bitch, sure. But she did not snitch on him. Not to Hank, not to Walt Jr. No one. He would be fine with a divorce.
She can go fuck Ted and live happily ever after.

>>218097965
I NEVER suggested bringing her fully in. Ideally you’d keep her isolated and have her see only what you want her to see. That way if she snitches she’s only telling the cops what you want them to know.

>>218097965
>>218098055
Also what are you not getting about this, Skylar would have a way to fuck over her ex husband. A woman is not capable of not doing this if she is able. Never in the history of the world has that happened. Especially if she hates him , which she does. If he divorced her, the only option would be to shut down completely, wait for her to try and fuck him over, hope he hid the evidence well enough of all his crimes, then start back up but now on the police’s radar. There is absolutely 0 chance of his ex wife not trying to fuck him over, you may as well hope the sun doesn’t rise tomorrow.

>>218098055
Revealing that YOU don't understand women if you think you can pull that off.

>>218098137
>A woman is not capable of not doing this if she is able
She never snitched.

>>218098168
Please tell me you understand that circumstances are different in this hypothetical. Did you have breakfast this morning?

>>218096482
You blew it by concluding your overly-formal paragraph with a little 'zinger' line that ChatGPT likes to do, i.e.
>That's not ethics, it's narcissistic survivalism.

>>218088263
What do you mean rape, do you mean by deception because he's a drug dealer? I haven't watched this show in a hot minute and I don't recall ol creepy Walt forcing himself on her

>>218098235
>Women le always snitch!
Except they don't, and this one didn't.

>>218091357
Walt starting an affair with Marie, who gets off on bing involved with a dangerous drug lord behind her cop husband and bitch sister's back, would have been an amazing story arc. Instead, Marie just drifted off into the background.

>>218098246
It's a good fucking zinger! Sue me!
This shit is going to strip all joy from writing I swear. As soon as 'human' becomes a byword for 'illiterate chicken scratch' because nobody knows how to pen a fucking sentence.

>>218097784
post your feminine hand sweetie

>>218088263
it's just her face, when she was on Deadwood a lot of people online hated her even though she literally gets cucked and forgives her husband without bringing it up ever again

>>218088568
by that reasoning you can fuck your children and pets with no legal problems then?

>>218088263
With the boring handjobs, the tofu bacon, the nagging about weed etc, Skyler was quite obviously being set up as the personification of everything that had gone wrong with Walt's life in the first episode. She was the personification of why, when this dude finds out he's dying, decides to go and cook meth with a crackhead instead of taking free treatment from his rich friends and spending time with his family.

For the creators of the show to turn around and act like the audience is a bunch of woman hating Chuds for thinking Skyler is a bitch is total cowardice, trying to pull an about-face in the woke era

>>218099186
I mean on Deadwood her character was his dead brother’s wife that was set up as he having seemingly only married her to Do the Right Thing and give her son a dad. And that Bullock was sacrificing his own happiness and emotions for his sense of honor and justice. Compounded by the fact that Timothy olyphant was perpetually stuck with a fork-in-the-garbage disposal expression in every scene.
also the other girl was adorable but I digress

People fucking hate traitors, that's why she's so hated. She cheated on her husband and was working against him for much of the show.

>>218099742
>no season 4 of Deadwood

Fuck I just watched it for the first time last month, the movie was alright but damn I wish they'd kept going. I wanted to see where the Earp plotline was going.

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>>218096482
post a photo of the emdash button on your keyboard
>doesn't have one
yeah that's what I thought
kys retard

>>218088263
i didnt get the hate for skylar, she's not even 1% as histrionic as walter or jesse
i think people were just bored of skylar/family scenes, would've rather seen walter making meth and getting money and the audience lashed out at skylar in response to that

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>>218099663
this

>well she can't be an unlikable character, because she was wronged on several occasions
She's still an unlikable character.

>>218088263
Should've shown her husband the proper respect instead of emasculating him at every turn.
>Hurr durr Walt has a fragile ego
When literally everyone in your life has been doing everything they can to make you feel worthless (students, bitch wife, retard son, boomer brother in law, faggot friends) you're allowed to have a bit of a bruised ego. For men, any time they consider their ego they're considered "egotistical". At what point is enough enough and a man is allowed to put his foot down and say "I'm tired of this disrespect". I know your average reddit faggot would be fine getting laughed at by a junkie student while scraping his tires, and getting a limp handjob from their bitch wife while she raises someone else's son (Ted's) but any normal man would have enough.

>>218097237
>He is afraid of Gus when he has no reason to be
Even when he slices one of his own men's throat to make a point?

>>218088320
This. Carmela is more complex and interesting. Sky is a one note bitch

>>218097374
Mandela effect in action, she was a streetwalker at the start of the series