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NuTrek dialogue edition

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star trek sex with shran
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>>218108680
I hate when I’m watching TNG and Wesley is all like “Cowabunga, dude!” And then I switch over to DS9, but the episode has Jake saying “All that and a bag of chips!.”
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>>218108736
>“Cowabunga, dude!”
That at least is a fun phrase. The turtles are based.
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>>218108736
And then in VOY, B'Elanna is all "no duh" and Tuvok goes "word"
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>>218108856
>and Tuvok goes "word"
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>>218108680
All of these sound like they belong in other shows that aren't Star Trek
What is it with these theater kid faggots and thinking a show needs to go edgy just because it's on a streaming service? Also how do you justify doing this to a show that prided itself on the dialogue being sophisticated, is it really that difficult to have some restraint?
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>>218108916
please tell me that quote is real
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>>218108680
Writers are more gay and diverse now and it reflects in the dialogue. More characters speaking nonsense, not plot related, ect.

Here’s how to fix /trek/
1. Go back to 60-90s era WPM. The average trek show had 4000 words of dialogue and 80-90wpm, but now it’s insanely higher. I blame West Wing/ER/House for characters never shutting the fuck up. Not everyone needs to make a speech, god damn.

2. Neutral flat lighting. Lens flare is gay.

3. A constant engine hum of a starship needs to be heard at all times.

4. Starfleet needs to be majority white, and male. Starfleet being a diverse cast of aliens is dumb and gay.

5. 20 episode story archs are dumb and a big waste of time. It forces writers to jam non story related dialogue and events into episodes to fill space while slowly rolling out the “season narrative”.

6. It can’t be preachy. Having episodes reflects current events are ok if seldomly used, but issues must be handled with maturity, and the writers must do their best to represent controversies from all angles.

If they actually fixed this, normies will start watching Star Trek again.
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>Episode where Dianna loses her powers
>is a complete cunt

Life must be so easy for beautiful women who can read minds
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>>218109032
It is 100% real. Tim Russ is a guitarist who hates rap.
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>>218109043
>Lens flare is gay
JJ Abrams did it in his Trek movies and Kurtzma'am is his blowjob buddy so it only makes sense he steal that
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>>218109043
>The average trek show had 4000 words of dialogue and 80-90wpm, but now it’s insanely higher. I blame West Wing/ER/House for characters never shutting the fuck up. Not everyone needs to make a speech, god damn.
That’s because the stage actors with Master’s Degrees in classic Trek could speak volumes while saying little. A look or gesture could go so far. NuTrek actors just say the lines they’re given and collect a paycheck.
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>Be Born with 80 I.Q.
>Genetic I.Q. enhancement is illegal
>Space janitor
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>>218109183
Genetic enhancement may be illegal but euthanasia isn’t
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Captain John Luke Picard
Commander William Ryker
Lieutenant Commander Jordi La Forge
Lieutenant Warf
Doctor Beverly Crusher
Counselor Diana Troy
Lieutenant Commander Data
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>>218109244
It’s pronounce data
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Jarvis write me a scene where Data calls Geordie nigga, thinking it’s a term of affection, Geordie says he can’t use that word because he’s white, Data reminds him that he isn’t anything technically
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>>218109320
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You can pick one trek girl to fuck in her prime but the downside is you can only fuck her for the rest of your life or you get tortured to death by Gul Madred. Do you do it?
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>>218109320
There was a major grin recut where Data does indeed call Picard a lunkhead and it cuts to him being disassembled lmao
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>>218109345
lemao
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>>218109351
>calls Picard a chromedome
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The most recent episode of SFA has an IMDB score of 4.6

There's no way that's real. I've not watched any other Star Treks but I watched this randomly and enjoyed it. It's a good show with great acting and actually, it's really quite funny.

Why can't the trek fans just enjoy it? Why put fake reviews on the internet?
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>>218109346
I could ride out my sunset years banging granny Kira easily enough
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>>218109376
Why put fake Star Trek on the tv?
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>>218108680
I would make bold use of the 'captain's personal log'...
https://voca.ro/15e4scSlCxZa
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>>218109376
Um honey, it's Certified Fresh™. Your chud is showing.
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Mr. Worf...your wife is here...
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Gyrate it till you had your fill
Just like a pneumatic drill
Don't let it go down the drain
Ya better hop on the cosmic wagontrain!

Cosmic! Cosmic!

I was havin' this out-of-body experience
Saw these cosmic beings
Everywhere I went up there, they were shakin' their cosmic things
Like someone gave ya a wild goose, or a freight train with
A loose caboose

You better shake your... honeybuns! Shake your honeybuns!
Shake it till the butter melts, shake it till the butter melts
Shake that cosmic thing, shake that thing, shake it, ohhhh yeah!
Shake that thing all night long, shake it man you can't go wrong
Don't let it rest on the President's desk, rock the house!

Cosmic! Wooooo! Cosmic!

I don't need no earthquake, don't need no tidal wave!
Till night falls and day breaks, gonna shake, shake, shake!
Shake! Cosmic thang! Shake that thang! Wooo! Yeah!

Like someone gave ya a wild goose, or a freight train with
A loose caboose, ya better shake your... honeybuns!
Shake those honeybuns!
Shake that thing all night long, shake it man, ya can't go wrong
Rock the house! Rock the house!
You might also like
Deadbeat Club
The B-52's
Follow Your Bliss
The B-52's
White Feather Hawk Tail Deer Hunter
Lana Del Rey
While cruising through the ionosphere, I saw these alien beings
Everywhere I went up there, they were shakin' their alien things
I'll give you a genuine faux pearl ring if ya git on up and shake
Your... honeybuns! Shake your honeybuns!
Shake! Don't let it rest on the President's desk, rock the house!
Oh yeah! Yeh, yeh, yeh, yeh! Cosmic! Wooo! Shake that thing! Cosmic!
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>>218109498
kek
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>>218108680
Ebonics : English :: plague : medieval humans
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>>218109043
>I blame West Wing
Sorry you're a slow thinker but don't impugn West Wing. It is 100% the spiritual successor to TNG, layering moral dilemmas with points pro and contra for each side, among a group of consummate professionals with limited personal conflict and strong ethics. The monologues are on par with a Picard Speech. ER and House, sure. But leave WW alone.
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Who is the Epstein of Star Trek? My vote goes to Dukat. He trafficked Bajoran women.
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Who is the new Spock of TNG? My vote goes to LeVar Burton.
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>>218108916
Fucking BASED.
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French twist Janeway makes my peepee hard
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It was a picked clean cakehole hazard
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There's hasperat in that nebula
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>>218109183
Are we in the antebellum of the Eugenics Wars? Canonically, genetically engineered superhumans take over Earth in the near-future. Right now, a 'lympic gold medallist was eugenics experimented into existence. A single dad buys eggs from one woman, puts them into a different woman surrogate. 20 years later, gold. How far away are they from conquering us? And, if she's Khan. I'd let her.
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>>218109183
The Federation is a utopia. Just not for you.
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>2026
>Still the cutest Trek girl ever
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>>218110279
They just put out a new Ezri Dax event in STO and I swear to god she is by far THE WORST of all the legacy Trek actors at voice acting

0 effort
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This franchise is fucking dead
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what happens to genuine incompetents born on earth? like if you're not retarded or insane you're just a bad worker. do you still get to participate in the luxury cashless society or do they send you to a federation labor camp to mine dilithium for the rest of your days?
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>>218110279
Post her in her casino outfit
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>>218110351
There is a Trek currently airing new 'sodes and a Trek AAA video game was released this week.
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>>218110434
Why?
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>>218110479
Because she's cute
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>>218110479
imagine BF in this... without shoes
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Why do (You) love and/or hate BF?
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>>218110501
She's too Jadzia loyal to do that, sadly.
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>>218110567
i thought she was chill until i found out she's unironically a woman
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>>218110425
"luxury" as far as earth culture goes seems to be just working for "fun" and pushing yourself to your limits in mundane but honest work, even as a civilian. so the retarded probably do just get pacified with shitty 24th century vr games
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>>218110567
BPD pussy got me acting up
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>>218110425
They send you out into the desert in a 24th century winnebago and tell you good luck.
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>>218110010
No, he was the new spook.
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>>218110741
This is so fucking corny and bad brah hahah fuck this shit, look at what they did to my franchise man
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>>218110741
well at least it's a free house
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>>218110751
>ro laren stl results : nothing
>michelle forbes stl results : nothing
I'm thinking about using one of those image to 3D converters but they all cost real money
but when it comes to Ro Laren cost has never been a concern
this weekend I'm finishing an entry for a painting contest, then next I'm painting a catwoman statue, so maybe in about a month I'll have time to mess around with making a Ro Laren statue
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>>218110456
"member this" the video game, and gay desgrassi ripoff. Thriving right now, I would say!
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>>218110741
*hits vape*
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after looking harder I did find this Ro Laren stl but it looks like someone used AI to make it
the pips are all fucked and the badge is wrong
the head almost works, maybe I can just decapitate her and put it on some generic female officer body
no nevermind I don't like how the eyebrows corner me into a fixed expression
the quest continues
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>>218110010
Data is just a sillier Spock in season 1
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>>218110852
Just import it into blender, voxelize it at a high res, and resculpt those details yourself.
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>>218110279
Her latest trek voice acting was pretty kino.
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>>218111153
maybe on planet retard

it was god awful, she is by far the worst of any of the trek actors to do STO. She does not try at all.
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>>218111203
But she is CUTE
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>>218111275
Yes and she's also a good actress on DS9 and in other things so that just means she genuinely doesn't try at all in STO, it's very frustrating.

Compare that to like Rene or Armin -- those guys were total pros.
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>>218111296
You're posting a lot of words that have nothing to do with her being cute.
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>>218111142
hmm no I would rather sand them off and just print a proper badge and glue it on
plus she doesn't have the rambo headband and it's just a bust, kinda boring
also I'd want a Selar too and learning how to convert pics into 3d files seems fun
it's insane to me how in the span of like ten years owning a replicator has become a reality
it's also insane how god fucking awful nutrek has made googling for your trekfu
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>>218110741
>You know this area looks almost exactly like...oh, probably a dozen different worlds Ive personally set foot on. Odd.
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>>218108680
>who talks like this
>what is this shit
It's a 50 year old man trying to appeal to the "youth" but he's blending about 2 decades of zoomer and millennial together.
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>>218111500
It’s simply Reddit socialization which is what tumblr socialization rolled up into in the later half of the 2010s
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>>218111523
Whedonism.
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>>218109345
What did Dukat say?
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>>218110479
The only things she has ever said to me are mean ;_; and its happened like 15 times over the last 10 years
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What is the point of non-joined Trill
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>>218112128
Asking the females if the spots go all the way down without them having heard it before in several other lifetimes
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has anyone played the new voyager game? it looks comfy... but is the autosave issue as bad as the complaints make it out to be?
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>>218112260
Is this a fucking mobile game?
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>>218112264
no
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2643390/Star_Trek_Voyager__Across_the_Unknown/
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>>218112260
I pirated it. I'm not very far into it so far.
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>>218108916
Based Tuvok.
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>>218110240
I love my new Raccoon Girl overlord.
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>>218112260
It autosaves every five points of interest now, and manual saving is on the way
It's really not so bad, it tends to autosave just before big events anyway
I'm at Equinox, got myself One (future Borg, he's great even though I can't take the Doctor on trips anymore) and Kashyk (the anti-telepath guy, he's a worse Tuvix)
I'm having a good time
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>>218112274
Looks like it might actually be good.
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>ENT episode that opens with hoshi threatening to eat porthos
what did they mean by this?
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Are there any elements of NuTrek lurking within the Voyager game?
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>>218114056
Haven't noticed anything yet, its been pretty faithful to the material
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>>218108680
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWX6nMJc74k

People who write for nuTrek should be required to at least watch all the movies.
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>>218110279
Ezri > Jadzia
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>>218110852
AI can make 3d models now?
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>Species: Unknown
what? how is this guy not human? He's not even got any shitty make-up on. he's not bajoran. he looks like a normal human being wtf
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I've decided I don't like Kira
She can never keep her cool, she's selfish and impulsive and uppity
All her more talented and likable fellow rebels died trying to protect her
She's probably largely responsible for pushing Dukat away and involving the dominion and she just taunts and antagonises all of her potential enemies
Every time she does something wrong, it's other people who have to apologise to her, reminds me of Legend of Korra
Legend of Kira LOL
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>>218114459
I think they expect you to believe that single bump in the middle of his forehead is good enough to define an entire new species of humanoid
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>>218114459
Could be a changeling, or who knows what other asspull to disguise his true identity if they want.
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>>218114459
Maybe he's a Deltan with hair plugs
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>>218114678
It's actually part of him too, not just make-up. It's been on Steven Berkoff's head all his life.
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>>218114459
He could be El-Aurian, one of the people from Miri, same species as Mike Ehrmantraut, same species as Captain Barefoot, etc.
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Was Necessary Evil when they finally settled on Rom's character? I think it's the first time he's shown to be an idiot savant.
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>>218108736
chicote, spelled chakotay

god i hate american spelling
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Why is Cardassian interior lighting so dark if they prefer the heat?
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>>218113164
Oh cool, glad they are working on it. Gonna play it tonight.
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>>218114976
Maybe they prefer "underground cave near magma" heat
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>>218114976
maybe they have a different optical range
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>>218114459
Star trek aliens are always “a little prosthetics added to the face” and like 99% of every other body part looks perfectly human; have you considered that, instead, maybe his cock looks different?
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>>218115196
This isn't Babylon 5. Hagath has absolutely no prosthetics and is entirely human.
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>>218113164
so what did you do to tuvix?
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>>218115255
Ironically, it's really for the best to kill the guy again
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>>218115255
I kept him
I thought it'd be funny
Trouble is he's really just away mission/space combat fodder now (albeit one of the best, his abilities are great), Tuvok and Neelix have been replaced by their stunt doubles and Tuvix almost never chimes in
Almost, because you still have to hide him during the anti-telepath refugee quest and the game remembers to have him say that and hide himself during the inspection
A little terrifying to think even half of Neelix has telepathic powers
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>>218115323
lol
>>218115324
yea I'm definitely killing him
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>>218110240
>Canonically, genetically engineered superhumans take over Earth in the near-future.
Wasn't there a book that explained, that it was actually a secret war, that most humanity didn't even know it was happening?
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>>218109032
Are your really too dumb to use gugl?
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>>218115358
And if you really need a diplomat/combat guy that isn't Chakotay, you can just take the anti-telepath double agent, if he doesn't end up double-crossing you
I still wish I got the Viidian doctor girl for the Doctor, and maybe both the Belannas, but I guess they're going for replayability (and hopefully more content later)
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>>218110010
Data is spock 2.0
Riker is Kirk 2.0
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Chakotay must say a whole lot of nothing. In my memories of the show Tom Paris has twice the amount of dialogue as him.
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>>218109950
FAGGOT
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>>218115412
thanks good to know, the 2 belannas might be interesting to keep around
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>>218109122
Is it weird that I don't consider the JJ flicks Nu-Trek? Obviously they're not True Trek either, but I see them as their own thing. I guess it's because they had the decency to be in their own timeline. Plus they don't really feel attached to the Nu-Trek shows besides PIC building off Romulus's destruction afaik.

Though in hindsight they were just JJ's resume to Lucasfilm.
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>>218115493
Belanna has had a fair amount of dialogue that probably isn't shared with the human or klingon versions, but it's mostly just "now we need to build this thing" so it's not a huge loss
I do wish the game was a bit smarter about delegating speaking roles to these characters instead of outright replacing them, Tuvix should still have things to say about security and the Delta quadrant
Maybe mods will fix it, I was hopeful about it but I dunno if this game will get enough of a modding community to bring out its full potential
It'd help if Daedalic put out a mission maker or something, at least, sort of like World of Horror
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>>218115533
kek
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>>218115392
Who the fuck cares about the Trek novelizations. If you can't or won't describe it in the main form of entertainment medium you chose, it's not canon.
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>>218110567
>Bashir's skinsuit showing his twink body and lack of balls
>O'Brien's baggy top hiding his man tits and potato gut
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>>218113164
can you throw Nelix out of airlock?
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>>218115602
What you're doing right now, shitposting on /trek/
>>218115612
You could send him on risky away missions and deliberately lose on rolls or reroll on events involving him until he dies
There's decent Neelix torture potential but I need to play more
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I heard you were talking about me...
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>>218115669
When they refered to him as new "fan favorite" in pre-release marketing, you knew this character is gonna suck.
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>>218115654
what about just don't let him on board in the first place?
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>>218115669
>betrays you very first away mission in the game
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>>218108736
Wesley doesn't say that and neither does Jake.
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>>218115696
i really like neelix but he's pretty shit when tuvok isnt around
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>>218115697
roguelikes aren't what they used to be. you can't just do anything
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>>218115697
I think he's mandatory, the Caretaker section is pretty on rails
You can definitely keep Kes post-The Gift, I've seen Ocampa recommendations for away missions, so maybe you can do something crazy for Neelix too (other than Tuvixing)
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>>218115724
>>218115750
ok thanks, I might wait until its been patched a bit more maybe next month
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>>218115721
Go on.
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>>218115713
its in the extended edition
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>>218115807
There isn't an extended edition.
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>>218115840
>he hasn't seen the extended edition
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>>218115840
>he doesn't know
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>>218115801
hes the only one on VOY who has a full series long growth arc and continually gets better at his job(s) and integrates better than any of the maquis. he's basically VOY's nog.
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>>218115669
Neelix was in Janeway files, screwing 3 year old girl, Kes.
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>>218115884
That's a very generous read of Neelix.
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>>218115884
Don't insult Nog like that
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>>218109043
>constant engine hum of a starship needs to be heard at all times
That wouldn't work well for when the focus is on a planet away from a ship, also you'd expect at least the higher rankings crew to have rooms with enough soundproofing to let them get away from it.
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>>218115536
> Though in hindsight they were just JJ's resume to Lucasfilm.
That’s exactly what they were. Abram’s admitted he never liked Star Trek but wanted to prove he could be trusted to make a new Star Wars film. Then he went and torpedoed both franchises.
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>>218115884
That's Tuvok.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>218116251
> Abram’s admitted he never liked Star Trek but wanted to prove he could be trusted to make a new Star Wars film. Then he went and torpedoed both franchises.

Both incredibly based and cringe
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>>218116312
tuvok only improved when faced with neelix. neelix is tuvok's greatest challenge and they both win.
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>>218110741
>free house
>free power
>free food
>free drugs
>endless free time
>WAAAAAH IM BEING UPRESSED BY DA WYTMAN WAHHHHHH
If I thought I could get away with it I would murder every single person involved in that fucking travesty by forcefeeding them draincleaner.
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>>218108680
>we're about to be ass deep in Romulans
t. Riker in STP
>I'm about to be ass deep in Jay'den
t. war college gay man in SFA

KINOOOOOOOOOOOO callback!!!! The Kurtzgod don't miss!!
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>>218116395
Everyone who was involved in that btw
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>>218116318
yes
yes yes YES
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Do they ever explain in STD or SFA why everyone in the universe is starving to death by the trillions after The Burn despite the fact that they still live on habitable planets with all of their year 2900 technology outside of warp drives?
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>>218116489
lazy, need to get jobs
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>>218109950
You're kinda right, even tho it's mad gay.
Sorkin is clearly a talented guy, but his high word count come from just copy pasting paragraphs of research into his characters mouths.
When people try to copy him thr only thing they copy is the shit word count.
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>>218108916
B A S E D
A
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>>218109043
>>218116528
Also nutrek shows are incredibly wordy because they have to stop and explain the plot to the phonewatchers at home.
They did that in sPIC S1 and it drove me fucking insane, I had to stop watching.
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>>218116489
Many civilizations were severely damaged because it wasn't just warp drives that were destroyed, it was power sources. And many weren't self sufficient in the first place and relied on their respective major powers and or galactic trade and commerce to be sustainable, and those went away
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>>218115392
I thought it was stated in the original episode that the war had a death toll of tens of millions
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>>218116597
TNG had efficient storytelling because the first five minutes would have a voiceover telling you where they were and what they were doing. Then a guest character would beam onto the ship, then something would go wrong. Cut to opening credits. Five minutes and the viewer had all the information they needed, plus a reason to stay until the end of the episode.
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>pranking the Romulans by sending them Janeway's dildo
devilish
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>>218116715
I mentioned it a few threads ago but the cable television format with commercial breaks really did help TNG so much, the writers used the limitations to their advantage and turned it into a theatrical experience. Fading to black and fading back in, like the curtains closing. Very rhythmic.

I also miss when there was a clear dichotomy and movies were widescreen whereas television, such as Star Trek, was in 4:3… but that’s a whole other autistic rant
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By the end of TNG and DS9, I find Romulans to be the least intimidating of all the major factions
>reintroduced into the series as the B-plot to the cryogenic humans episode as the mutual victim to a new threat (the Borg)
>multiple "Romulan plots" turn out to be the machinations of some other aliens (the things that mistook the artificial singularity for a nest, "My name is Barash")
>IIRC they're the only major faction banned from free travel through the Bajoran wormhole
>Starfleet gets to borrow their cloaking technology
>tricked by a homosexual tailor into joining the losing side of a war
>weirdly sympathetic to their prisoners (that Klingon camp, Tasha Yar's time travel rape baby becoming a high-ranking official)
>Section 31 made that Romulan patriot their bitch and Ross didn't care
>that one Romulan who died like a bitch in the Dominion prison
>still treated as the Federation's mortal enemy even though the Romulans had the most amicable reaction to progenitor aliens
just all adds up to make me view the Cardassians (who are supposed to be significantly weaker) and even the brain dead Klingons as the more legitimate threats.
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powerful stuff
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>>218117028
I can't wait to see the meltdowns when his deal is extended
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Are the New Frontier books worth reading? Found the first ten at a local shop and was a bit shocked at how thin they are, seems perfect for light afternoon reading.
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>>218108680
end star trek
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>>218116989
Oh and how could I forget
>supposed to be Vulcan cousins but apparently lost every single Vulcan superpower and are basically just long-lived humans now
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>>218116989
Not to mention across five series we have no more insight into their culture beyond 'paranoid, treacherous Vulcans'. In one series, Cardassians got more development and completely ate their lunch.
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>>218117070
I never cared much for Peter David's Star Trek stuff, he treats it like a comic book universe. Kind of like how nutrek does.
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>>218116989
They're just so shallow, they clearly never had a champion on the creative side because they never, ever advanced past the base level of being sneaky and duplicitous, never developed any good recurring characters (the two most famous Romulans are Tomalok and Sela, Tomalok is a Scooby Doo grade villain, Sela just absolutely sucks) and most of all despite there being some good self contained Romulan episodes there's no bigger picture story of worth with them at all.
They were, unironically, drastically improved by blowing up their homeworld.
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Romulan culture is the most advanced in the Alpha Quadrant. It features such intricate nuance that you honestly probably can't understand it without at least a decade of dedicated study.
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>>218117254
One anon wrote how he imagines Trek to be a Stage Play, so he imagines aliens to actually look alien.
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We'd all be singing the praises of Romulans as the greatest Trek antagonists if more Trekkies had faith of the heart and gave ENT more seasons.
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>>218117341
trvke
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>>218116989
TNG Romulans are clowns, DS9 had the right idea by making their machinations a bit more obscure so we didn't have to learn how clowny they'd become since
If they were just a completely closed off state that was waiting out the death of the Cardies and Klingons I'd understand it, even if that was the boring route for them, but at least then they wouldn't get dunked on so badly all the time
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>>218116989
>>218117254
>>218117356
Breen were the cooler Romulans until Kurtzman ruined them.
I can't wait until Kurtzman will ruin Bynars.
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A little part of me is always going to associate TNG era Romulans with "oh, my"
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>>218117137
what romulan would ever let another person read their mind? too paranoid for telepathy.
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>>218117401
Breen were a literal one dimensional joke race and an embarrassing piece of writing in DS9, the idea that Discovery ruined them is hurt yourself laughing level hilarious
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>>218117413
Breen had potential. Kurtzman ruined that potential.
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>>218117413
ds9 was comfortable letting shit go on without explain it to autists. thats a good thing.
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>>218117401
The quadrant is big enough for Breen and Romulans
Having them spar some more would've been cool to see
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>>218117413
>Discovery
I don't know what that is
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It's insane how shitty the Kurtzman era has been and how they have just tarnished everything
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>>218117441
Badass
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>>218117403
To be fair here, I've read the preliminary ideas for Insurrection, and they were pretty dull. Michael Piller needed to be told this.
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>>218117433
Romulans are no more
Supernova blew them all up
/s
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I forgot Spock was in TNG, seems kinda important but they play it off pretty casually. Good.
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>>218117441
It's the Mythbusters channel.
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>>218117462
Oh, I'm not disagreeing, I just find the mental image of Sir Pat jotting down "oh gosh not the fucking Romulans" in a letter funny.
He was 100% right to hard veto Pillar's first drafts, they were bad.
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>>218117462
>>218117571
is this why nemesis happened?
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>>218117596
This was is Insurrection. Among other things, it was originally about a joint Federation/Romulan conspiracy to depopulate a world to get access to it's magical space rocks.
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>>218117571
>>218117695
The original "Heart of Darkness" idea was commendable but it wasn't going anywhere.
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>>218117526
They used to do How It is Made and shark week stuff too.
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>>218117451
It’s insane how little cultural impact NuTrek had had. 9 years and hundreds of episodes, but nobody outside of nerd bubbles even knows these shows exist. Even in the 80s/90s, people who had no interest in sci-fi knew who Kirk and Picard were. They even knew the actors who played them and their catchphrases. If you stopped somebody on the street to ask who Michael Burnham was, they’d give you the most confused look.
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>>218118448
>hundreds of episodes
What the fuck I thought those were 'modern shows' with 6 hour-long episodes per season or something, they made that much garbage already?
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>>218117715
philler didn't have rdm to slap him around when he got retarded anymore, many such cases
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>>218118448
And the orville has easily transplant
>500 cigarettes
into the cultural zeitgeist lol
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Does LoDe actually pay respect to Tru-Trek or do the writers just pull from Star Trek memes on social media?
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>>218118501
STD and LD had 50 episodes each. PIC and SNW had 30 each. SNW is contracted for another 1.5 seasons. Prodigy had 40 I think. SFA is contracted for 20 episodes minimum. That’s hundreds of hours of content that Joe Normie has no idea was ever made.
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>>218118686
I watch (real) Star Trek and even I didn't know there was that much nu slop, damn.
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>>218118627
cringe millennial quirk chungus "humor"
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>>218118627
Bit of both
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>>218118627
There’s a SNW crossover where the characters are played by their VAs.
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>>218118627
It's Rick and Morty/Harley Quinn 'self-parody'
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>>218118904
I dislike how much the characters act like 21st century assholes, rather than the more enlightened crew of TNG. Even Obrien and fucking Barclay were more professional, more "Starfleet", than anyone on the Cerritos.
Jacked PTSD Bajorin guy is kind of funny though, at least in concept.
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>>218118958
a horny cat lady is 100% true to gene's vision
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Why were the writers in ENT so retarded?
They should've made the theme of the whole show as building up the world of star trek and the federation.
ENT is at its best during the Vulkan and Andorian episodes. There should've been way more of worldbuilding rather than random shit nobody cares about, like the Xindi. Some of the Xindi episodes were decent action episodes, but ENT would've been way better off if it had been about worldbuilding.
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>>218119000
Ships' doctors are always a bit grumpy too, so that tracks.
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>>218118686
That's an impressive amount of feces.
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>>218118958
If Miles was in NuTrek he’d be saying shit like
>Hey, you might wanna head to sickbay to get your colon checked out
>I, uh…saw some things while transporting you
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>>218108736
I expect children to act like children. It's obnoxious when all the adults are acting like children, too.
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>>218119033
She swears nonstop
Also, this garbage

https://youtu.be/bTJwgrvFXOY?si=X-2fkKOmVZ63f7cF

>At some point in their history, Betazoids were hunted and eaten by Caitians, however this practice had long since been discontinued for centuries by 2381. The Caitians would go on to develop a synthetic substitute of Betazoid flesh for consumption instead. (LD: "Empathological Fallacies")

In the 24th century, the Betazoids did not have any colonies. However, they had some by the late 32nd century. (DIS: "Erigah")
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>>218119190
well LD at least attempts to be real timeline, it's not aidstrek it's just bad.
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>>218119190
That's dumb, why would they do that?
Also they already had a carnivorous cat alien in the Kzinti who appeared in TAS, or does Niven's estate prevent them from using the name/concept these days?
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>>218119130
Erm I think I accidentally swallowed my commbadge!!
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>>218108680
is that real? do they actually talk like this in star trek now? why?
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>>218119300
Because alex kurtzman is a faggot
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>>218115884
I hope you are talking about Tom
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>>218119011
That's exactly what they where doing. Season 5 was going to be about the romulan war and the early days of the federation. But it was too ahead of it's time and UPN kept dicking around with the show so it got cancelled
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kill worf.
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>>218119348
no but his arc is pretty funny, going from locarno to wholesome ship dad.
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>>218119300
Endless demoralization.
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>>218119388
Do it yourself, honorless one
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>>218119300
Alex Kurtzman is a cock juggling retarded faggot. But beyond that it's situational paychecks. Nepos on producer/board levels waned DEI and they got it because spinless clowns like Alex will bend over for a mortgage payment on his third house. This is not a bottomless well, it will run out.

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>>218119440
Hot take it would have been funnier if he was hyper masculine but liked wearing dresses and shit. The dress doesn't look bad.
I just hate these writes and all the weird gay shit
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Sodomy is without honor
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>>218119473
A cross dressing Klingon could work if he were like Kaji in Persona 4. A bruiser with a feminine side that only bubbled to the surface around close friends. But Jay-Den is always acting and dressing feminine.
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>>218119440
A barrel is going to fall on his back alright
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>>218119569
Yup my thoughts exactly. It's a good idea for a klingon, but they just fucked up way too many aspects of it. This show is so dumb it is actually impressive
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I should have killed EVERY last one of them. I should have turned their planet into a graveyard the likes of which the galaxy had never SEEN!!!
I should have killed them ALL...
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>>218119569
>>218119663
It's not a good idea. It's a terrible idea. Just another "subverting your expectations" trope. Let's make the ultra-masculine character ultra-feminine!

The writing acumen of a 38 year old wine aunt who says words like "furbaby" to her friends.
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>>218119349
They should've been doing that in season 1 and 2.
Really, they should've had Manny Coto write the whole thing from the start.
Get rid of the temporal cold war, the suliban, and and xindi.
The first episode/arc can be similar, but instead of the suliban, it should be either the romulans or some new race loosley allied with them, where the romulan connection is explained later.
Bring in more of the undeveloped races, like the tellarites, betazoids, and bolians.
The theme of the show should be how the civilizations that make up the federation slowly learn to resolve their differences, while also setting up the future wars with the klingons and romulans.
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>>218119751
Star Trek was the original “subverting your expectations.” It just handled it a lot better than Whedonslop.
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>>218119865
retarded nutrek trannoid opinion
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>>218119718
>I should have killed them ALL...
put them up against the WALL
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>>218119773
>>218119349
And the Romulan War was mostly one-on-one battles, political subversion, and sneak attacks. The Xindi had a fucking planet destroying laser. It would've been hard to lower the stakes after something like that.
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>does anyhting that slightly challenges his composure
>GGGRRRR I MUST GO TO MY QUARTERS TO MEDITATE, SAVE ME SURAK
why was he so unstable?
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>>218120173
By unstable you mean careful and disciplined?
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>>218115840
>Hasn't seen the directors cut sex scene with Jadzia and Worf
You are not a merry man
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>>218120003
I'm saying neither the xindi, nor temporal cold war, nor suliban should've existed.
Enterprise would've been far better if they made it about forming the federation, rather than merely using that as a side plot.
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>>218116989
I really wish we got the story they were trying to craft towards the end of ENT before it was cancelled. The conflict with the Romulans and it being the catalyst for the founding of the Federation had kino potential
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>>218120451
no i know
im just saying IF the show had continued, it would've felt weird, being that they blew their wad with the xindi already
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I felt relief that ENT ended when it did so they couldn't fuck up anything else
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>>218116989
Here’s some more
>traded their cloaking technology to the Klingons (their mortal enemies) in exchange for some rusty Klingon battlecruisers
>lost a war against Earth, not the federation, Earth, an irradiated, bombed out planet that had just developed warp travel
>that Romulan MILF in Picard forgot about her loving husband five minutes after he died and she is absolutely going to have a half human baby.
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>>218114720
Aliens really are just hiding in plain sight
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We deserved a follow up to Conspiracy, damnit!
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>>218120518
Maybe with AI in a few years, Enterprise can be entirely recreated with a good plot.
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>>218121175
I remember when Picard Season 3 was airing, people were speculating that the Conspiracy bugs were the big bads
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>>218121229
For a eunuch, you still don’t know much.
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>>218121175
The parasites returned in some books and STO, and that's about it
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Which Star Trek series had the most satisfying ending for all its characters?
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>>218121543
Star Trek Enterprise
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>>218121543
I fucking hate Asuka
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>>218121576
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SFA is doing numbers.

Everyone hates it. But people now know that these shows exist. There are 5 seasons of Discovery and it still appears to have an audience consisting of Red Letter Media and a handful of people in /trek/.
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>>218121764
More people are talking about a monkey getting bullied in Japan right now.
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>>218121543
TOS if you count the movies, TNG had a nice ending.
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>>218121175
We DO NOT deserve this
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>>218121543
Voyager does indeed make it back to Earth.
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>>218121543
>>218122158
TNG,DS9 and Voyager have good endings.
Shame TNG movies and Picard series ruined it
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>>218122422
DS9 ending would have been better if they didn't turn Dukat into a goofy supervillain with Pah-wraith powers
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>>218122520
>>218122422
ds9 has the shittest nonsense ending but other than poo wraiths i like the final season
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So in Gambit Part 1 Picard and Riker just being bad for some reason?
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More people are talking about a short made for a 30 year old Japanese sci-fi cartoon than anyone has ever talked about Lower Decks. Let that sink in.
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>>218122422
Voyager ending needed another 5-15 minutes of runtime. They finally get back to Earth, and it's only shown for a few seconds, then Voyager ends. Even some generic scene of the Voyager crew meeting starfleet would've been better.
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>>218122533
The pettiness of Berman not using any Jadzia footage for the montage still pisses me off. Worf looking back on his time on DS9 and not having any flashbacks of his fucking wife was wild. Just scrap the whole montage bit at that point.
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>>218122851
nobody gives a fuck about jadzia, only good thing the poo wraiths did was burning her from history
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Vulcan History sounds like some sort of Fantasy Setting with Elves and magic bros. Kino stuff.
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KRO'THAL!
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>>218122573
It was a RUSE you GOOF
THAT IS THE GAMBIT
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>>218123286
I am just finishing Gambit Part 2. Great two parter.
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WHAT RULE?
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>>218123745
They start talking off beat 5 minutes into Discovery. I can't remember any of it but they're wandering around in the desert and start saying wise-guy millenial writing quips like "Any other bright ideas, professor"

The first 5 minutes is all I know.
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>>218123955
Old Trek had plenty of jokes. Both good and bad
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>>218123981
Are you getting paid to defend this crap?
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>>218116989
Even ignoring DS9, by the end of TNG the Cardassians end up feeling like the second most effective villain race behind the Borg what with the Four Lights torture guy and the border disputes creating dissent within the Federation. Hell, you could argue even more than the Borg since they started showing cracks in their threat level in Descent (from a narrative standpoint, obviously in-universe they were still the most powerful threat). And it doesn't help that Cardassians and Romulans have a lot of surface level overlap (political schemers who wear grey).
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>>218116989
I always got the impression that the writers forgot how many Romulan episodes featured them as either allies, sympathetic, secondary threats, or misdirection, so we end up having to take the characters' words that these are the most dangerous superpower in the Alpha Quadrant.
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>>218122928
Why is Earth the only planet where their mythology is complete BS?
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>>218122851
It wasn't pettiness. Her (((agent))) pitched a fit over them using voice clips of Jadzia a few episodes prior without permission. He wouldn't allow them to use footage.
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>>218123981
mostly bad
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9WkQTzAcYk
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>>218124465
Oh no, TV shows used to be uplifting and not depressing or bittersweet.
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>>218124465
how can you disparage such wholesome knee slappers?
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>>218124260
>Bajor is our chosen land!
>They got plenty of land! We could be their farmers!

Get fucked you ugly parasites. We need a mine grid around the wormhole.
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>>218123745
Roddenberry insisted the dialogue be professional yet timeless so anyone could enjoy it. Nobody over the age of 25 can stomach NuTrek dialogue. It's going to age horribly. Like all those shows from the 2000s that had an episode or story arc where a teenage character becomes a goth. Even masterful shows like Sopranos and Frasier succumbed to that trend.
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>>218124878
The Puerto Rican whore episode is a timeless classic
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>>218124260
>Third world refugees are gross and don't get to decide where they make their new home
>In fact they should be grateful for whatever scraps the civilized world gives them
Shockingly redpilled episode that could never be made today. And if it were, the writers would be accused of being Nick Fuentes groypers.
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I don’t understand the timeline. How did they have advanced enough technology and a society that had various dictatorships for the Eugenics Wars in the 1990’s but then the Bell Riots happened in 2024 and it looked like regular modern times. There’s also that episode in Voyager where they travel to the 90’s and it seemed normal and not like superhuman dictators were controlling things.
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I understand the timeline.
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>>218125126
A temporal agent stepped on a butterfly
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>>218124260
They never actually specify whether the boy who dies is her kid or one of her mates, do they? What a bunch of creeps.
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>>218125192
It's implied their race sees men as second rate citizens so it doesn't really matter.
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>>218124762
>>218124780
In today's world, wholesome lacks verisimilitude.
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>>218125346
That's not what that word means.
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>>218125389
You lack agency.
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>>218125492
That's not what that word means either. I guess you are trying to be funny? Usually humor involves actual wit.
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>>218124260
I'd like to see an alternate timeline where the Skrreea are allowed to settle on Bajor and they interpret the sorrow prophecy to mean freeing the Pah-wraiths from the Fire Caves.
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star trek
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>>218125929
yes, that should be the case
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>>218108854
>“Cowabunga, dude!”
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IT'S BEEN A LONG THREAD

POSTING FROM THERE TO HERE
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so uh new bread anyone?
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>>218127256
im good, let it die



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