Chloe Zhao pushing for 18 episode season
thats a child
>>218126653damn I was hoping they shelved it
>>218126702Why?
>>218126653She's my type
>>218126653So that likely means the new Prison Break series is dead now, huh?Shame I wanted that
>>218126795Just get tattood, locked up and escape yourself anon.
>>218126878What about the rapes that goes on there
>>218126878Yeah but there's a whole process of trial and jury selection and that shit>>218126894Just don't drop the soap, duh
>>218126678So was Sarah
>>218126795No Wentworth no watchy
>>218126653Still no series order, it's dead.
>>218126653The new slayer is also called Buffy? Or the show is about the boomer Buffy? Or a clone or what?
>>218126735>Disney/Hulu Buffy reboot written by blue haired landwhaleswhy would you want this to see the light of day?
RKA = DOA
>>218127273The new slayer is named Poppy. Buffy is her mentor
>>218127294Whedon is a MASSIVE male feminist. I don’t see how this girlboss slop could be worse
>>218127294The cast for this show is amazing though, literally everyone is attractive
>>218126653So what about Ryan Coogler's X-Files? That still happening or did they realize you can't have The X-Files without Mulder & Scully?
>>218127393>male feministAnd yet he treated the women who worked for him like complete dogshit
>>218127648Still happening, unfortunately. Currently casting actors
>>218127669Yeah, cause he's a feminist.
>Chloe ZhaoLol, lmao.
>>218127706She’s about to win her second Oscar
>>218127678That sucks, I doubt they'll do any interesting bits with the jumbled lore or anything with cases of the week that don't amount to "the real monster is racism". The X-Files isn't Law & Order where they can cycle out cast members or Star Trek where different ships have their own things going on, it's deeply centered around Mulder & Scully, they tried the cycling out thing with Doggett & Reyes and nobody liked it, wanted it, or gave a fuck
>>218127393>Whedon is a MASSIVE faggot FTFY
>>218126653So are the seasons 8-12 comics canon still or no?
>>218126653i bet her pusy absolutely reeks
>>218126678Hatchlings must exit the egg.
>>218126653Taking too long to make it! They should recast younger - after all, this is about a high school vampire slayer not a college vampire slayer!
>>218127417Aren’t they all kids?
>>218127678Considering the reveals about the Colonists from the Revivals, how do you even do X-Files without alien invasion looming?
>>218127648Instead of that they should just reboot it's inspiration instead, hell I'll live with and accept a black Kolchak
>>218126702They did. This is just a fan submission and fake as fuck.
>>218128104>So are the seasons 8-12 comics canon still or no?Probably not.>Xander fucks Dawn>Giles dies and then turns into a child>Buffy has lesbian sex>Gay Male Slayer>Angel starts dating Illyria>Buffy fucks Angel in outer space and then gives birth to a universe that turns into a lion that goes back in time and takes control of Angel in order to fuck Buffy so it can give birth to itself
>>218129669I remain convinced the comics were just Whedon's way of trying to get fans to quit bothering him to make more Buffy.
>>218129669>Angel starts dating IllyriaThey just cuck Wesley like that?
>>218129876He's dead. Or a ghost. Or something.
>>218126678Out of ten
>>218129669>Buffy has lesbian sexI see nothing wrong with this
>>218127757Yes and the Oscars are not a good barometer of quality.>>218129669Also Dawn became a giantess and Trachtenberg was asked about that and she was into it. Sad.
Yes! I need more Buffy speak and cheesecake.
>>218129669Buffy the Slit Licker???
>>218127292>immortalthey should have some balls and he should try and rizz up the next generation slayer right in front of Buffy
>>218126735No Joss Whedon no buffy, nuff said.
>>218126702>damn I was hoping they shelved itI've got a feeling they still have since the pilot was shot last August. It shouldn't have taken 6-months for the show to get a greenlight, plus all the kids are getting older too.>>218129534Yeah, wouldn't SMG or Chloe Zhao have publically stated something on Instagram or somewhere like that?
>>218132512>>218126702This is deuxmoi gossip it's not a real source anyone can write in
>>218132522Maybe they don't want to officially reject the pilot until after the Oscars, in case Chloe wins again. It'd look bad for them to cancel it and then she cleans up at the awards with Hamnet.
>>218132725This
>>218126653>original cast member dies>then they decide to make a showWhy do they literally do this with every old show with a new one. Is it some kind of requirement ritual.
>>218132812I remember, maybe a decade ago, they were gonna reboot Buffy with a black chick AS Buffy. So basically it was just gonna be a remake of the original show, but with a race-swapped lead. This show is at least just a continuation, and Buffy is still SMG. The new girl is Nova.
>>218132882Shut the fuck up you gay cunt
>>218126795Prison Break has had 3 shitty endings: The original series, the movie, then the revival series. You want more?
gritty 70s new york nikki wood slayer series when
>>218127706I really liked The Rider. Her work has a sincerity to it which is always a good sign but admittedly may not be the best fit for a whedon show. But what do we know, Gordon Green started off with neorealist dramas before finding mainstream success with stoner comedies.
>>218126653Looking forward to 8 episodes that are 45 minutes long and then in 4 years when they give us 8 episodes again
>>218128160God I hope so
>>218134178It becomes really obvious rewatching the show how they were able to pump out 22 episodes a year for several years; they basically just cycle through the same 5 or 6 sets constantly.
>>218135476Are you suggesting modern shows don't?
>>218129669Is it required to turn into a lion or is it doing that for the aesthetic?
started rewatching buffy, series 1 is a lot better than i remember. only real naff episode so far is the computer demon one and that still has a charm to it
>>218127393>I don’t see how this girlboss slop could be worsePrepare to be surprised then
>>218136437The aesthetic, I think.
>>218136807just watch the x-files unless you're a walking vagina
>>218135476>show set around a school is filmed in a schoolWow, mind blown
>>218127393Whedon is a perverted femdom foot fetishist pretending to be a feminist
>>218136807The computer demon episode is camp kino, my favorite episode of season 1, followed by the one where Xander becomes a hyena man
I feel like they're gonna need to address the elephant in the room that The Apocalypse, not just an a apocalyptic catastrophe, but the straight up Battle of Armageddon End of Days was coming and fast tracked by W&H at the end of Angel.Unless this new show is a post-apocalyptic one where W&H lost but the world is fucked up or the bad guys won (and it was heavily implied they will) then I have no interest
>>218132512who are either of these people
>>218127393He's still a man so he's better than female feminists.
>>218137861>the bad guys wonWould be very fun, especially if the plot was that Wolfram & Hart have been spending the last twenty years hunting down and killing Slayers so Buffy has to rescue this Nova girl & train her because her side's party is dwindling in numbers and the world is getting even more overrun by demons & evil but that'd probably be considered too depressing for a Buffy revival
>>218126975No, she wasn’t. She was 18 years old in season 1.
>>21813828919, actually she was born in '77, S1 started production in the summer/fall of '96
>>218138248It'd also never be considered because that would imply Buffy is a failure, and these humanoids only do the "Old Hero is actually a fucking loser and failure" thing to men
>>218126653It's cute she's so enthusiastic, but remakes/reboots/revivals slop deserve to fail each and every time. No exception.
>>218127393He was racist tho and barely tollerated secondary darkies on his plot. Expect instead diversity everywhere in the reboot tho
>>218129876He loved Freddy that was dustes out of existence by Illyria. With the goddess he developed a weird parasocial relantionship, but hardly to actually call it "love",
>>218128104Comics, books and video games tie-ins are never canon, never ever. Even when the show/movie creator himself swears that they are, you can be sure that they will be all thrown out of the window as soon as a full fledged reboot/prequel has a chance of happening.
>>218126653>director wants more episodes>studio wants lessThis is unusual. Normally the director/actors want less episodes to give them more time to output better quality, while the network wants more to give the best roi with content that will last longer.
>>218126653Why do they always go for reboots? What's wrong with just a sequel? It's been 25 years
does it get better? I tried the pilot and shit was cheesy as fuck but then i see the cult status it achieved, even among some kino people and it just doesn't add up
>>218140426That's pretty much what Whedon said. If a real continuation ever occurred, he'd chuck the comics without missing a beat. >>218140491That's because it's nonsense, anon. The show is likely dead or in need of massive retooling. It's actually rather interesting because the script for the pilot was not terrible. Not exceptional or anything, but a decent pilot to kick things off. Really makes me wonder just how badly the actors or Zhao fucked it up.
>>218140649It is a sequel, anon.
>>218140989The OP says reboot, but that's good
>>218141208That's because the post is fake. Story is set about 20 years after the final episode. Sunnydale has been rebuilt by possibly nefarious entities. Vampires have been trapped underground since the collapse and resurface during a festival weekend to act on a prophecy. For some reason unexplained in the pilot, Buffy and slayers are considered a myth and fairy tale. At the very end, they show Buffy wiling away in NY working in insurance.
>>218141492>they show Buffy wiling away in NY working in insurance.Huh, you'd think they'd have her be less of a loser and be out there still slaying vampires since if I remember the OG series end, she's embraced being a Slayer by that point.I'd say maybe her deal with the government included her having to keep her head down but then I remember in Angel season 5 she was operating abroad and trying to rebuild the Watcher's Council
>>218126678hopefully i get cast as nuangel so i can blast off inside her teenage pusy
>>218141961I am pretty sure the comics will be totally disregarded, anon. I'm sure some kind of catastrophe happens at some point. In the original premise, Buffy had become jaded after slaying destroyed her life. I think it'll turn out some of the gang died. The script hints that Giles might be dead. And of course with MT being gone, they might have her dead, too. At some point I'm guessing a spell was done like with Dawn and Conner giving everyone alternate memories which is why she and slayers have been forgotten.
>>218126653We will never get full 26 episode seasons again
>>218142132>get full 24 ep seasons>fans complain about motw filler episodes
>>218142305Not real fans. MOTW episodes are important for characters and setting.
>>218142384Unfortunately we have a whole generation of viewers who were trained to believe any standalone storytelling in TV shows is bad
>>218127353I thought the book, Firestarter, was amazing.
>>218136841I was going to say this exactly. Holy shit when will people learn?
>>218142121>A massive, cosmic retcon happened years ago where everyone forgot Slayers existed Sounds exactly like something a certain sinister firm would do
>>218127292Why is he giving adriano vibes here
>>218143049>Wolfram & Hart won 20 years ago and now we're just dealing with the new world order they've imposedWould be incredibly based
Is she a lesbian?
>>218143450Buffy? No, she's straight but a lot of xitter troons want her to suddenly become gay, usually with FaithNova? Maybe, with an all female creative team they'll make her the biggest dyke to ever dyke
>Buffy is getting a revival >X-Files is getting a rebootWhat's next? A reboot of the show Werewolf?
>>218142384>important for characters and setting.You'd be very surprised by the amount of people who think things like characters and worldbuilding mean fuck all compared to the plotI'd say it's an anime thing but even in 12-episode anime seasons with 24 minutes an episode there's standalone episodes and the arc builds gradually, and even there these people have conniptions over it
>>218137861I vaguely remember that there was an Angel comic that was totally what they had envisioned for the next season>world merges into hell>Angel is mortal now>some random other shit happens>he dies at the end>W&H basically go "oh shit our prophecy said we needed him now he's dead you know what fuck that we're just resetting that shit to pre-apocalypse levels and fucking off"Or some shit like thatThey don't even have to mention it, lmao
>>218144434It's because these people are dopamine poisoned and want that next mind-blowing revelation and they want now now now now now
>>218137946Sarah Michelle Gellar and Chloe Zhao (both Jewish, the Zhao surname is associated with Chinese Jews).
>>218137586Barely half of the 144 episodes of Buffy were her in school/college.
>>218138289Cordelia was 26 when they started shooting season 1 and she aged like a fine Bordeux.
>>218140224The original show was full of diversity considering how many Jews were in it though.
>>218140491I guess it makes sense that a streaming service would rather have 10 excellent episodes than 22 good episodes. They'd know peoples attention spans are fucked, so it's better to have fewer episodes with higher highs than risk viewers getting bored and ditching the show.
>>218144570That apparently the world forgot Slayers ever existed sounds like a Wolfram & Hart plot, maybe they did reset the world but in their image
>>218143532>MaybeSeems unlikely. In the script she's dripping over some jock guy.
>>218145832They'll subvert expectations by revealing her female friend is her actual one true love
>>218145935She doesn't have any friends. Her one quasi-friend is some nerdy rich guy.
>>218126795
>>218145144the only good seasons were the high school seasons
>>218131982
>>218146043WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY!
>>218146054If you are retarded. 4-7 had good story arcs and easily the best motws.
>>218146111nah, it devolves into supernatural tier shit for tumblrinas in the later seasons
>ppl thinking the Slayers being a myth thing is some nefarious world domination plot with a cosmic retcon spell>In actuality it's going to be some white supremacist incel nerd who hates that his ex is a strong, independent woman without and she happened to have been a Slayer
So can anyone who's read the pilot script just spoil the whole thing?
She'll wall by then.
>>218126653Buffy the Vampire Slayer is simultaneously one of the best and worst things to happen to TV
>>218145328>rather have 10 excellent episodes than 22 good episodesThis is the "tighter seasons" fallacy. The truth is that it doesn't matter how many episodes there are and if you reduce the number, the proportion of shitty episodes either stays the same or, once seasons are short enough, a few shitty episodes have a disproportionately negative effect on the quality of the season. Also, the issue with short, serialized seasons, is that it's an "all eggs in one basket" problem where if the arc is bad, the whole season is ruined. It often is because it ends up being an episode's worth of story stretched into a season. Longer seasons reaps a similar benefit to investment diversification.
>>218147023Shit, The Boys runs into this problem every single season, the first season did some world building bits that kept things afloat, but every one after that you really only need to watch the first and finale episodes
>>218147023The Shield had short seasons where many episodes had the main arc play out in the background until it was time to confront an issue, making it very easy to jump in. I don't think shows on Netflix even do episode recaps
>>218126678A sexy child
>>218126653I want this to be good but I know it won't be. TV just doesn't work that way anymore. Even the more age appropriate casting strikes me as a bad sign.
>>218147023The problem is the arcs are usually utter dogshit, if it takes two to three years to produce eight episodes there's no excuse for abysmal writing. It's like the writers just do fuck all the entire time and make up arcs right before production begins. I mean, wasn't the Stranger Things final episode being rewritten while shooting was underway?
>>218147023I think this is more or less right. It's true that older shows could somewhat knowingly produce filler, but it was also just batting average. It's not like a modern writer's room is scripting 24 episodes and then paring them down to the top 10. I realized this ten years ago with The X-Files.
>>218147420>The problem is the arcs are usually utter dogshitEven when they aren't the incentive structure works against them. Severance would have been a brilliant Kaufman-esque movie, or an outstanding miniseries. Instead we got whatever you'd call season 2. Modern TV throws the baby out with the bathwater. Old BBC series outdo most "prestige" TV at its own game.
>>218126653Don't care, it'll suck, post-2010 teenagers are intrinsically uninteresting.
>>218147432The X-Files showed that shorter seasons can still do standalone stories, it's just all the cases of the week in the revivals, barring the werelizard, absolutely sucked
>>218147493>Modern TV throws the baby out with the bathwater.Do they though?
I imagine it'll be uninspired and boring
>>218147684Yes because we have executives who see shows and movies as content farms and creatives who have no will to do anything beyond the most cookie cutter shit imaginable
>>218147550trvth nvke
>>218146088hot
>>218140894what was the story in the pilot?
>>218151063alt right vampires preying on defenseless transfolk of color
>>218149881The funny thing is in the first season of Buffy she was meant to be 16 and Angel was something like 240 years old. Doubt they would try get away with something like that now.
>>218151405yes that's the joke
>>218137861Best scenario is that we learn Angel and his crew got grabbed and sent to another dimension (say, Lorne arranged for an escape for the crew after he decided to fuck off) to save them from the army of hell about to kill them at the end of season five.With Angel and his group escaping, W&H went back to rebuilding their company and the apocalypse got postponed indefinitely. And when Angel and company returned, the law firm decided to just hex Angel and Spike, removing their immortality so they can age but are still vampires.
>>218140048The rumored plot that leaked was just that, sort of; Buffy ended up alienating all of her friends and gone full John Winchester. A hatable loser who no one wants to work with or be around because Buffy has gotten to the point where she willingly causes collateral damage death-wise fighting monsters.
>>218141961You are misremembering the series finale. The finale ended with Buffy finally free to do whatever she wanted now that there were endless numbers of slayers and the Sunnydale hell mouth fully closed.
>>218140182based. picrel is the only reboot i’ll watch
>>218140832it’s just comfy and from a simpler time
>>218126735I want this shitty Jewish pedophile industry to die
>>218129876>>218129895As a side effect of Angel's retarded in hindsight deal to run the LA branch of W&H, Wesley's soul now belongs to the demons the Wolf, the Ram, and the Heart that make up the senior partners of Wolfram and Hart. In Angel After the Fall, his soul basically was forced to help the firm and it's demon hordes fight Angel and while he was able to help Angel and his group bring Fred back as a glorified clone (allowing Fred and Illyria to co-exist as two separate entities, at the end of the day Fred and Angel were forced to watch Wesley be dragged back to the hell dimension where souls of dead W&H are warehoused in an "I Have No Mouth and Must Scream" style when they are not being made to do stuff. Which was super fucking shitty given how loved Wesley was, that he got the worst possible ending out of the rest of the characters. >>218130926Dawn becoming a giant was actually a plot line from the never made Buffy the Vampire Slayer cartoon that Joss pitched but never got made.
You are not going to see Wolfram and Hart on any Buffy revival. The rights issues have always made Wolfram and Hart Angel property and unless the revival has full access to all of the concepts/characters tied exclusively to the Angel show, they are 100% off the table and will never appear in the Buffy revival. Second, I wouldn't be shocked if Dawn is simply written out/retired and living a normal life. If they have to kill someone off to give Buffy angst, it will be Xander since his actor is a literal dumpster fire and everyone hates him. Especially David Boreanez, who famously had stated he won't do any Buffy project with him involved. Third, I would not be shocked if they go the route of Buffy retiring and letting Giles do all of the training of the newbie Slayers, with Principal Wood, Willow, and Faith running it with him. And Giles taking the stance of having the Slayers operate in secret again, especially if as another poster mentions, Angel and his crew got teleported away before any big fight could happen at the end of his show to ensure that there was no bloody final fight between him and his group and Wolfram and Hart. But then going back to the old status quo of the town not knowing that the supernatural is real, makes sense and easy to do.
>>218146088weird face
>>218145020Are you retarded?
>>218153296but in season 5 of Angel it's shown that she's part of a new watcher's council and has an army of slayers working with her. I don't see why she'd need to sell insurance in New York
>>218156585Working insurance allows her to keep track of happenings through claims. That's what happens at the end of the pilot. >>218153755Fox (Disney) owns both. They can do whatever the fuck they want. The only things that might be off the table are the characters created for the IDW/DH comics.
>>218157229Yeah but seeing as how the watcher's council has a fucking army behind it, I don't see why the head slayer would need to do grunt work like that. That's a job for someone like Andrew
>>218143532Buffy bangs a Japanese teenage girl in the season 8 comics, she's bi according to Whedon's shit.
I'm still confused on the whole "Slayers have become a fairy tale/myth" thing when there's immortal characters who can confirm they do exist, unless in the 24 years since the end of the original the entire Slayer army has been hunted down and killed or some strange cosmic reset caused it.
>>218153296Yeah I think people forget the running theme of the entire series is Buffy hates her job, and that she'd quit for good if given a chance.The one who's got no problem hunting & killing monsters for the rest of their life is the unhinged psycho
Odds on there being a WMAF relationship because Chloe Zhao is working on this?
>>218157635Pretty sure there will be some big disaster that sends them all underground, literally in some cases. In the script, slayers and Buffy are fairy tales.
>>218153270That sounds like Season 6 Buffy on steroids, and SMG hated playing that version of the character
>>218157878I'm sure that'll be a mystery that plays out.
>>218157878They realized the slayer army thing was retarded and an angel deleted them all from existence except for Buffy and Faith. Faith isn't assed to appear in the reboot though, she's busy doing stuff elsewhere.
>>218158057Faith is dead. No other way for Nova to be called.
>>218158074Yeah they never spawned slayers randomly out of their assholes in Buffy before. Although they might as well say she's dead because Eliza Dushku is retired from acting.
>>218156585She has to make sure these dumb bitches don't go off the rails like Faith did, people seem to forget that Buffy is canonically a massive control freak
>>218153368This show was a fucking trip
>>218158147>don't kill random peopleYeah, a total anal-retentive.
>>218157972Zero because Disney is involved
>>218153270>gone full John Winchester.But John had a reason to be a paranoid fuck, he was convinced something evil was after his kids (He was right) and that evil was following his family's every move (Also completely right)If anything her being in her 40s and paranoid that evil is always going to be out there should be a given
>>218157878I'm still leaning towards some NWO-type conspiracy that needed all the Slayers out of the way hence a huge cosmic reset by the same nefarious group behind rebuilding Sunnydale because that actually sounds cool and interesting
>>218157973But again, there are immortals and demons alike who can verify that Buffy was a person they've encountered. Dracula and Clem immediately come to mind.
So they really are just gonna tear down Buffy just to build up some dead eyed looking replacement? Wow, Disney really does hate the heroes of before
>>218158057US Government swooped in because they know demons and the supernatural exists, wiped out all the Slayers because Buffy couldn't keep them in line then erased all records of Slayers including Buffy, I vaguely remember a leak mentioning she's going by the name Anne again
>>218127294It's produced by Dolly Parton and the Kazuis (aka the original producers who just sat around and collected a check) the only creative not returning is Joss Whedon because his career is over, they literally cancelled his last show so he can't get the pay for his creative credits
>>218129669>gives birth to a universe that turns into a lion that goes back in time and takes control of Angel in order to fuck Buffy so it can give birth to itselfSo they just rehashed the Jasmine thing?
>>218129039>hell I'll live with and accept a black KolchakCould be kino if they do it right but they never do.
>>218160767They'd try to make him smooth-talking and likeable when Carl Kolchak is supposed to be a crochety weirdo people only slightly tolerate who happens to find himself in situations way over his head frequently
>>218161006>crochety weirdo people only slightly tolerateLike Fox Mulder?
>>218126653Two season order? So kinda like when Daredevil got an 18 episode order?
>>218126653I would slay her vampire, if you know what I mean.
>>218162112She's 16
>>218132882I remember when Buffy was a movie starring a hot chick and then they turned it into a tv series with that scarecrow SMG, so I never watched it.
>>218162355Whedon hated everything about the '91 movie down to the cast, that's why the TV series takes his original draft script as canon
>>218162191Out of ten!
I'm curious about this show but the original had such a specific style to it. I'd rather see them take the tone in a different direction maybe more like the film than the series than try to be the show all over again.
>>218128104I hope not. Whedon needs budget constraints. Also, he told us there would be a whole issue devoted to Buffy and Angel having sex. People thought he was joking. Then it actually happened! Superman exhibitionist space sex around the planet too! My god Whedon is so fucking retarded. Or the best troll ever, idk...Angel: After the Fall was pretty good.
>>218162543People, and by that I mean millennials took the wrong lessons from Buffy's style so they're just gonna double down on the irony and quips while the retards watching clap like seals
>>218162752>Whedon is so fucking retarded. Or the best troll everBoth, he's always been both.
>>218129876
>>218162929Wesley's arc was simply the fucking best
>>218145212I jerked off to her skinemax 50 shades of gray knockoff movie many times. BOUND 2 if you need it.
>>218162929>>218163030When Angel takes the time to make sure Wesley knows he's not Angelus and hasn't turned evil before trying to smother him to death. Fucking peak.
>>218162398I don't care about what Whedon liked or didn't. He's a lispy weirdo.
>>218127294Buffy was always left wing. It wasn't so obvious the first couple of seasons, but I mean you should have figured out out by the end. The last season was literally Buffy trying to train an army of all girls to empower women. She literally explicitly says this. It's always been a misandrist show.
>>218163429Hot take here but Wesley got off so fucking easy for his role in all that shit, that or he was always hiding in fear of Angel's wrath
>>218145280Sarah Michelle Gellar and Alyson Hannigan as well. There's actually almost no White people in the show.
>>218126653Do we get hopping Chinese vampires in the reboot?
>>218126653>zhao wanted 18 episodeswhy does the network care what she wants? she is replaceable.
>>218164443No, because that'd be cool and Hollywood is deathly allergic to cool things, you're gonna get demons that are metaphors for patriarchy instead>>218164567She's an Oscar-winning director who's involvement was the only reason SMG agreed to come back for this whole thing, without her it'd probably be a full on remake
Okay but I wanna believe Lindsay from Angel is actually a cousin of Mac from It's Always Sunny and this idea of the Gang going to him for legal help>"Cuz, hey, haven't heard from you in a while-">"Because I fucking hate you">"You still doing that law thing, y'know?">"I had to sell my soul for it but yes..."And Lindsey spends the rest of the episode trying to get the Gang eaten by a demon while they fuck around in the Wolfram & Hart building
>>218147023>an episode's worth of story stretched into a seasonWhich is why it makes shit like 99% of Netflix & Amazon slop feel like a drag to watch, the plot has to literally spin it's gears until the final moments of the finaleAll of Us Are Dead was ten episodes long, but it managed to avoid this by having some damn fine moments of suspense & tragedy and it outdoes every American Netflix show in that department
>>218159897Also myths, anon. All the supernatural shit was forgotten. Global Sunnydale Syndrome.
>>218165276To be fair the supernatural world was a secret already in the Buffyverse, we only ever followed characters who were in the know about it.
>>218165423Yeah, the world only knows about slayers and Buffy in the comics. That being said, it's not just the slaying thing that's been forgotten. Buffy's entire existence has been deleted in the new show, so obviously some spell has happened.
>>218165489>Buffy's existence has been deleted from records>Buffy herself is working an insurance job but has become a hateful loner who's pushed away everyone Either a villain group pushed the cosmic reset button or Buffy herself failed so terribly that she did it and doesn't realize the consequences
>>218165898I'm guessing more like Willow and her coven did a Conner-esque spell.
>>218126702this
>>218165898>become a hateful loner who's pushed away everyoneI thought they only do this to characters like Luke Skywalker, T-800, and Indiana Jones?
>>218166297It's to demoralize all the prior generations - Your heroes suck and are losers, but the new generation is where the real good shit is at
>>218126653That's not Buffy The Wampire Slayer, that's "Insert name" The New Vampire Slayer. Seriously, looks like they really want to make us angry. Sarah, if you are not the main star, don't put Buffy's name on it.
>>218126735Didn't need a reboot
>>218167855Unfortunately that's exactly what the plan is, to call it a Buffy show but have her be recurring
>>218126653who cares. it's gonna be fucking dogshit anyway just like all these other retarded reboots. buffy was a 90s product and only works as a 90s product.
>>218126653THEY GOT THE MUSTARD OUT!
My guess: The Government hit the reset button and erased the records of Buffy's existence because she couldn't control her Slayers so they'd rather a world where monsters operate in secret again rather than risk another astronomical fuck up, they were experimenting with the occult and supernatural in prior seasons and the Initiative didn't get the plug pulled on it after the Adam incident, some Men in Black type shit
I see them turning parts of this into a content farm to pump out more spin-offs
>>218170580They've yet to even make one show, anon. This thing is doa.
grim
>>218170751This is still Disney, they want everything they own to be a shared universe
>>218168468I can't understand why they want to do it. It's deadly stupid. Everybody is going to hate it.
>>218171372Because brand recognition, this is the same company that made a movie called Captain America, but it starred Falcon and was a Hulk movie in disguise
I'd rather just a remake that used Joss's original five year plan
>>218173157The one where W&H actually were the servants of The First Evil?
>>218151527Hahaha... great joke, bro.
>>218155969https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaifeng_Jews
>>218157972Pretty sure she is only directing the pilot and maybe gets "executive producer" credit for the series. She isn't a writer or showrunner.
>>218171372Because daddy's little girl needs her own show.
>>218126653I look forward to 4 seasons of it not having viewership to justify its ratings, being cancelled, and then being totally forgotten one week after it's cancelled.
>>218162355>I remember when Buffy was a movie starring a hot chickCope. SMG mogged Kristy Swanson in acting ability and in looks.
>>218126653Slaying the kitty, who is?
>>218163724Yeah and they even made Willow overtly Jewish to the point she protested celebrating Christmas. And this was back in the late 90s.
>>218164567Chloe Zhao is friends with Steven Speilberg (he asked her to direct Hamnet), plus her dad is literally a multi-billionaire businessman. The execs wouldn't fuck with her like some pleb director off the street.
>>218173972Do you know what the population of China is?
>>218174032Why is this guy constantly raging and seething at Ryan Kiera Armstrong of all people?
>>218174361It's fake, all their stats are faked
SMG is the only returning cast member for a reason, getting her blew through any budget they have to get anyone else
>>218176219Also Giles is old, Xander is DUI central and Dawn is dead
>>218167855>>218168468"Buffy the Vampire Slayer" sounds cooler than "Nova the Vampire Slayer" plus it is already an established IP with a movie, TV show, video games, comics, etc. It's like how the new Predator Badlands flick was completely different from the original Arnie movie in terms of its tone and violence, but they still called it "Predator" and shoehorned some bullshit Yautja and Weyland Yutani references into it since the IP is still considered valuable. If they had balls then they wouldn't have even brought back SMG for the role and just rebooted the whole thing for the next-generation with the new girl as Buffy.
>>218170751>They've yet to even make one show, anon. This thing is doa.They shot the pilot back in August 2025, but it is strange that the show still hasn't been given the greenlight even though the kids in the cast are all getting older. Either the pilot itself just sucks or the lead actress (Nova) is maybe terrible and a weak replacement for the Buffy character.
>>218177115It's possible that the scenario in OP is legitimate, or something similar. There are a lot of things that could delay development or production even if the pilot was well-received.
>>218162355lol, same. SMG was budget Buffy on every level.
>>218146088#couplegoals
>>218177574>It's possible that the scenario in OP is legitimateNo, it isn't. Even SMG and Zhao's comments on it are tepid at best and they talk of retooling. Obviously it wasn't well-received.
>>218178779Retooling would be a generous understatement of what OP describes.
>>218126653> 8 episodes a season> New season every three years> 10 years and 4 seasons from now in 2036 we still haven't gotten to the end of Buffy Season 2Grim
>>218129669> Xander hooks up with Dawn> Not SpikeLame
>>218132812They forget it exists until someone dies and everyone posts about: "Oh no! I loved SHOW" then the execs go: "We should make more of that show about that girl that just died!"
>>218178821I have a hard time believing they turned in such an absolute turd that Disney is willing to pass on it. I wonder if it comes down to money vs what they believe they can make. Buffy was expensive for what it was and while it had a dedicated fanbase, it was never a massive financial success. Shooting at night, shooting in California, all the backend they'll have to pay. I think it's a matter of believed profitability more than anything.
>>218179082This show was in development before she died.
>>218132882Lol I'm not putting it passed them to try to make it happen. They've been trying to make Buffy black since Kendra in season 2.I also expect the reboot to have some kind of line about Buffy's White privilege since she died and came back (twice) while Kendra died and stayed dead >>218132925Seethe
>>218133441I'm not going to dignify this with a response.
>>218136437They haven't been able to decide since they went all in on Wolfram Hart.
>>218137861If Joss was in charge he could do it because it would basically be the storyline he wanted to do in Dollhouse with a bit of Firefly vibes on top of it . I have zero faith in anyone else being able to do anything right.
>>218153270They're not thinking about continuity they're just ripping off the Laurie Strode/Sarah Connor/The chick from the Texas Chainsaw Massacre reboot thing and going to make Buffy basically that character all over again and so they don't have to flesh out literally any character or having to think about their interaction or development between season 7 and now. Say what you will about Joss, but he would have everyone be introduced in a crazy unexpected place and then gradually explain how they got there in flashbacks that would make sense. The reboot will just have them all be reset to their season one selves and make some quips about: "Oh, I've staked a few vampires before" then milk the member berries every time any of them say anything.
>>218142305Every Zoomer I've ever shown a monster of the week show like Smallville or Buffy they've loved it
>>218143532Will they make Angel a cuck or have him be evil for sleeping with a high schooler?
>>218179382Problem with bringing Buffy back is she's a pretty well-established character. 144 episodes of TV and she was central in the vast majority. There isn't a scenario that isn't rerun. Even the premise for this really sounds like it's just Anne all over again. They'd actually be much, much better off ditching the whole Sunnydale idea and going a different route.
>>218146376> People think the Slayers are a mythIt's going to be the Force Awakens all over again
>>218145328> 10 excellent episodesLol, LMAO>>218147420> It's like the writers just do fuck all the entire time and make up arcs right before production begins. That's exactly what happens. They're too busy being L.A. insiders. They don't start work until production begins
>>218147684Yes
>>218155969Wait until you find out about Mexicans
>>218157878That's a story for another time :^)
>>218157972Zero but you might get a JMAF pairing and three BMWF ones
>>218127393>I don't see how things could get worse ...Did you by any chance say that about 15 years ago while holding a cursed monkey paw?
>>218157981Yeah but she's going to be more like Faith pre-Mayor/post-prison than all whiny and cry-y
>>218179589She's just going to be Anne. She's literally going by Anne in the pilot. I wouldn't mind it. That was a pretty good version of the character. She was always better when away from the rest, except for Giles.
>>218158988> Don't accidentally kill someone on self defense when you're being attacked by thirty vampires and a necromancer jumps on you from behind because they're also trying to kill youThey always handled the Faith storyline as stupidly as was humanly possible. She did nothing wrong and even in Commiefornia the police would've never booked her for it, and if they had the DA would've never pressed charges, let alone brought it to trial (where she would've obviously been found not guilty due to being a minor who was the victim of an attempted murder.) The fact that everyone always treats her like an irredeemable monster from then on and she has to actually go to prison for it was just stupid. Especially since almost every other character does something worse throughout the series (especially Angel, Spike, and Willow.)If they really wanted to do that, they should've just gone all the way and made her actually be careless and devil may care about her slaying and accidentally kill someone she was trying to save from a vampire or just using her slayer powers to throw civilians around when they annoyed her out at the club or something and seriously hurting someone without meaning to then lashing out about it afterwards. The way they handled it was horrible.
>>218126653haven't they heard of AI?We can make the reboot ourselves and it will be much better than whatever they're trying to do.
>>218160575That's just dumb. Joss didn't even do anything except sleep with some chick that was on his show and be a dick sometimes. Buffy without Joss is going to be hot garbage.
>>218162398He was wrong. There are things about the movie that are better than the show and they should've had Buffy be more upset about her first Watcher
>>218164670So? Every Oscar winning director is having trouble getting anything greenlit right now >>218174232Unless her Dad or Amblin want to pay for it that doesn't mean much in this current industry. If she doesn't win an Oscar they'll probably replace her. Before she started sucking Speilberg's dick she was just that chick who made the Eternals
>>218179673Buffy with him was garbage (the comics). He was just out of ideas. It happens. There is only so much you can do with a small group of characters in the same universe.
>>218179673yes he just slept with younger adult women, and apparently mean to his wife or some shit. tratchenberg through in a "he wasnt allowed to be alone with me" cryptic line that was really just about him being kind of belligerent at times, but that was enough to seal the deal.the new show is either gonna just be totally flaccid, or a weird attempt at miming the whedon style, which would be ironic and funny honestly. lol
>>218171372> It's deadly stupid. Everybody is going to hate it.That's the only thing Hollywood knows how to do
>>218174162Buffy really was an evil show in retrospect
>>218174361Irrelevant to his initial point. Post nose.
>>218179182It was in development stasis
>>218179438There's all kinds of ideas for what they could do. The best would be to just pick up where they left off. Trying to do a reboot and add in the OG main character to buffer the unappealing new lead (Scream 5/TFA) is always unappealing, though.
>>218179753That just means he can't be the sole writer. He almost never actually writes the scripts for "his" shows or even directs the episodes and when he does the vibe is always a little off compared to the rest even if it ends up being a good episode on it's own. His strength comes from coming up with a good premise, then fleshing it out into a story Bible, then picking a good crew and overseeing their ideas for scripts before handing them off to someone else to direct. He had almost zero involvement with Firefly after it left pre-production but the show could've never existed without him
>>218179784>miming the whedon styleThat's all of modern capeshit tho.
>>218179864No, it wasn't. >script date october '24>announced february 2 '25>trachtenberg dead on the 25th of februaryHe wasn't the sole writer of the comics. You have no idea what a showrunner actually does.
>>218128160must smell like bubble gum and cotton candy
>>218126653Looks like they are rewriting the pilot (and the show). Probably show will be more centered around Buffy to please old Buffy's fans. Because they were VERY angry when they heard Buffy will be around like a new Giles or something like that lol.
>>218180509Still probably won't see the light of day, and that's a good thing!Stop rebooting shit and do something like a Fray TV series
>>218180767Still not sure what's the problem with call it Nova The Vampire Slayer if the new girl is the main star of the show.
>>218180509>“During a recent stop by on Charisma Carpenter’s ‘The Bitch is Back’ rewatch podcast, series favorite James Marsters potentially had a foot-in-mouth moment when talking about his involvement in the new production,” the Collider story said. Talking about rewatching the series, Marsters said that he had “to ask myself, ‘Can you play that character again?’ Never mind the externals. Can you internally get back to that psychology?” Carpenter asked if Marsters was saying he’s part of the reboot. “Quickly backpedaling, Marsters said, “I am not. No. I have no idea.” But, he eventually softened on the idea, adding, “Let’s see. What can I say? There is interest in having me back,” according to the Collider story.Maybe you are right. Seems Spike will be in the reboot too.
>>218181175I assume he will be human now? Or they'd have to de-age him with CGI lol
>>218179589So she's going to be a hardcore violent emo?
>>218181500I'm assuming they'll handwave it as a consequence of having a soul or he and Angel are losing their ability to pass as humans and visible aging is the beginning of that
Alright
>>218180020I don't care what you think a showrunner does I'm basing this off of what he and the crew said he did in the DVD behind the scenes festurettes and audio commentaries for Buffy, Angel, and Firefly.They've been tossing around a Buffy reboot since at least 2012. It just never picked up steam until after Trachtenberg died.
>>218181500>>218184398You're giving them too much credit. They won't even realize they have to acknowledge it, then will ignore it, then will finally call everyone incels for caring.
>>218185087>Caring to have an explanation for why ageless characters are aging makes you a sexless misogynistBut they're males...these people really ran the word incel into the ground like they did Nazi, Fascist, & Racist except even faster
>>218126653\>Announced Febryar of last year>It takes hollywood over two years to write and make a show of 18 episodes that's nothing more than a lazy reboot of something already written.Why has the american entertainment industry become like this?
>>218186035Unions. This is a direct result of the strikes
>>218186223This, writers nowadays want to work when they feel like it and will leave shows at a moments notice, it's why you see so many shows on Netflix that take years between seasons and the fact they take those long hiatuses not to brainstorm ideas but to sit on their asses and do nothing
