So this is GRRM mocking us, right?
Us hasn't consumed anything GoT related since season 1 ended.
i might actually watch this, never watched HOTD cause it looked like what I Imagine game of thrones would have been like if it started in season 5 or 6. Kot7K actually looks decent though, the books were decent too.GRRM just needs to put out winds, don't even care about a dream of spring, it's just kind of weird that winds isn't outGRRM is definitely no Wolfe.
>>218174203I've seen it theorized that he's finished both Winds and Dream and he's got it set to release them when he dies, so that he doesn't have to be alive to hear people bitching about them.
Is this line in the story; or did the series slip it in there to troll fatty fatty fat-fat?
>>218174203I was done with GOT but I watched this out of the hype surrounding it, it's also short 30 minute long episodes, it's pretty goodI've only seen HOTD season 1, I think I didn't even bother with season 2
>>218174203I wouldn't watch HOTD.This should doesn't overstay its welcome.Even if you don't like it. It's still only like 3 hours long.
>>218174291i might wait for S2 to come out because i'd be amazed if the idiots making modern television can make more than one season worth watching, but i do have a good feeling about this show, i actually saw the showrunner apologize for leaving out a line from the book which upset fans, which was surprising, usually they'd lie or evade or just ignore something like that>>218174342yeah i'll never bother watching HOTD, i thought the dance was honestly a lot less interesting than what came right before and right after it in F&B, also making corlys and the velaryons black was just lol
>>218174203First season of HOTD is pretty good but the quality drop off of S2 is noticeable. Hopefully the showrunner for Dunc & Egg gets a bit of sway on whatever other shows get made, because he did a fantastic job adapting the Hedge Knight novella into a short series.
>>218174268copium
>>218174203>GRRM is definitely no Wolfe.This is like saying a dried turd is no Fabergé egg.
>>218174095You know GRRM doesn't actually write the scripts for the show, right OP?
>>218174095Everyone knew 15 years ago he wasn’t gonna finish this shit.
>>218174203>never watched HOTD cause it looked like what I Imagine game of thrones would have been like if it started in season 5 or 6.This is well-put, but if anything, it was like what Game of Thrones would be like if it started in season 9.
>>218174095>>218174203>it's just kind of weird that winds isn't outboth last books are done, i'm sure, the old man just wants to troll anyone and gave instructions to publish his works only once he has passed
I genuinely have no issue with most of the events that happen in later game of thrones (excluding Jaime’s heel turn). The issue is the execution. Do I believe show Euron could kill a dragon? Hell no. Do I believe book Euron could? Yes.
>>218177988Do you believe Arya could solo House Frey and the Night King? Do you believe the Wight Hunt would actually compel Cersei to join forces with Dany? Do you believe Sandor Clegane would actually give a flying fuck about getting revenge against his zombie brother, despite his monologue establishing that his real hatred was against his father? Do you believe Bran is even necessary to the story? Remember Sam peeling playdoh off of Jorah for no real reason in particular? Remember Jorah having Greyscale at all? Surely this subplot will have some purp- Oh nevermind, he died.Oh shit, the Children of the Forest. Guess what my friend and fellow nigger, it turns out THEY created the White Walkers to... fight against humans, because that sounds reasonable and makes sense. Whoa, what a twist! It's like a metaphor, or something. So deep.Uh, the Iron Bank of Braavos exists. They like money. So they have a scene, where they talk about liking money. And then they reinvest a bunch of money, again, so they can try and make their money back, again, hmm... Oh yeah, and Sansa exists. She learned to play the game, which means... mindlessly executing everybody who raped her, mentally and physically, instead of using them to further her ambitions which are... something? See, she learned all this from, uh... being raped, so rape is a good thing, I guess? Yeah, that sounds right.Dorne.
>>218178336When I say the events of the show, I mean them in the vaguest sense of the word. Arya killing the night king could potentially work. Bran becoming king could work, Dany burning kings landing oils work. it’s the specifics where it falls apart. Like I said. Euron in the show killing a dragon i retarded. Book Euron killing a dragon isn’t. It’s the same event, but executed differently.
>>218174268Lol absolutely no way. The dude gets constantly harrassed about not finishing Winds and sounds genuinely depressed about it. If it was finished he'd release it in a heartbeat. The fatso wrote himself into a corner and now he's too slow and worried about criticism to finish it. The only hope is that his estate published his 2/3rds written draft when he's gone, you won't get anything more.
>>218178487The issue is with the personality of people with his writing style. As a discovery writer, the show existing makes him feel like the books are already written, and as a result he feels less compelled to complete the story.
>>218174268>>218178487He also has 10 or 11 Dunk and Egg stories he has been meaning to write. All those years of writer's block for ASoIaF he might have spent it more productively on D&E. But he didn't.
>>218178543What kills me is that he basically has no excuse. He's RICH, he doesn't have to hold down a job, he's got all the free time in the world. He doesn't even have any kids or grandkids who could be distracting him. He has no good justification for not having produced significant work by this point.
>>218174203He wrote himself into a massive pacing problem. He has to start resolving storylines and quickly because he has only two books to close that shit up, but that means a major event every chapter or close to that which is atrocious for book composition. People just start not giving a fuck about characters dying and battle being lost and shit if every chapter has something huge, for pacing you need padding but he has no space for that. Most of these events were ruined by D&D too so he's kind of fucked and won't release Winters possibly ever
>>218174268Unfortunately the world isn’t that interesting or “clever.” 99% of the time, there’s no 4D chess at work. It’s just the mind telling intricate stories to avoid the banality and chaos of life.
>>218174203Same. HOTD just looked like trash. AKOTSK is pretty good. The casting and acting of the main characters carries it and the story is simple and gripping. There are some cases of millenial writing but not as many as one might expect and some casting decisions that reek of female insecurity dressed up as "modern" but overall I'd recommend it. Goes without saying it's leagues above the last 3 seasons of GOT.
>>218178557he has unlimited access to black pusy, anon, let's see you handle that better
>>218174268Why do people find it so hard to accept that gurm just isn't that good at writing?
i like egg. and luke. and season 1 bran.
>>218179167Is it because you're a gay pedophile?
>>218178398Anything can work. Twilight isn't bad because it's about a vampire in high school, it's bad because the writer is a fucking illiterate gooner.If I try hard enough, maybe I can pivot my nutsack to enter my anal cavity. Who knows? More importantly; who the fuck cares?
>>218174095I thought it was the show poking fun at George
>>218174203The tales of large lad and bald boy are indeed kino
>>218174268>so that he doesn't have to be alive to hear people bitching about themyes because everyone is patiently waiting for these books and no one bothers him about them rnsuch retarded copium
>>218174095When are people going to get in their heads that gurm doesn't make these shows. He swans by the sets and sits in the writers room, then takes credit if they're well received.
>>218174268the theory that he stole Asoiaf from a dead author is more believable than that
>>218178336Yes.
>>218174095It's show writers mocking GRRM
>>218174203Well actually it is 9 kingdoms
>>218178487>wrote himself into a cornerThats my understanding too, but I mean its a medieval story, he could literally write 400 pates of intense politicking and then simply cap it off with the plague sweeping across the land and killing everyone off, leaving only ghost towns.
grrm is a shameless fat fuck who is in no way trying to pass himself off as a knight there doesn't have to finish shit.
>>218174095Does this mean anything in context or is it "clever" but only makes sense as the 4th wall breaker and not in universe?
>>218174268>so that he doesn't have to be alive to hear people bitching about them.as opposed to the 10 years of people bitching about winds and dream?
