Everyone recognizes movies are terrible now, even the ones that are supposedly good, but when I try to think about whats missing or why it feels this way or what kind of movie would make me feel differently I dont have an answer. What exactly is wrong?>inb4 millennial writing/jews/women/deiIf this was the reason then there should be amazing independent art that “does it right”, or one of these famous writer/directors with final cut will do it, but there isnt and they dont>inb4 youre wrong *blank* was actually goodNo, it wasnt. The only people that have this reaction to a modern movie are film nerds that will find a reason to love anything that isnt cgi slop>inb4 you are depressed/old/movies were always like thisEveryone I talk to agrees, and even younger people in my family (12-18yos) all watch almost exclusively old movies and shows. Everyone picks up on the fact that almost all modern art is worthless
They aren't bad. No one except chuds and retards complain about this and they don't know enough about cinema to discuss it.
Aside from Marvel shit I haven't watched a real movie in years so I don't even know if they suffer from the same thing as streaming shows. But basically for TV it's>Scenes have tons of wasted time of characters just staring at each other or talking slowly>Background characters don't exist anymore, sets are just empty rooms with the main cast>Rarely if any shots of whatever city the movie/show is taking place in to give a sense it is actually taking place somewhere
I checked her youtube channel and it's just another low iq chudette. Every video is about genre fiction slop.
>>218177407I promise I know more about cinema than you, and no, its not.
>>218177487Idk who that is I just thought it was a funny screenshot
>>218177374Name 10 movies you think are good
>>218177374Nobody reads any more, that's why the writing is so bad. Comic book movies compounds this because people whi watch and make them don't read the comics either
>>218177493Prove it. Tell me why 1950s Hollywood cinema is supposedly so much better than modern. Post some examples.
>>218177374>If this was the reason then there should be amazing independent art that “does it right”, or one of these famous writer/directors with final cut will do it, but there isnt and they dontFucking what? What a retarded hand-wave.The fact remains that movies were measurably better before Hollywood started hiring based on race & ideological allegiance and it's measurably shittier after they started. Leftists need to stop coping.
>>218177374This whore looks like she smells and she's annoying.
>>218177547You don't even need writing anymore. You just need a big cameo moment or two to be the actual reason people go to the movie.
>>218177407>Only CHUDS refuse to eat the Corporate Slop! Time to prove I'm not one! *gobble gobble gobble* It's amazing how the apparent end-goal of "progressivism" was apparently just to breed the perfect Consumerist Cattle.>Do not question or criticize [product]; questioning or criticizing [product] is Wrongthink. Just consume [product] and become excited about next [product].
>>218177487>genre fiction slopWeird how leftshits are supposedly "too smart" for genre fiction, and yet that's where they've most heavily invested in taking-over ideologically.
>>218177487You should actually watch it and you'll realize it's actually the opposite.
>>2181775681950s is actually a weaker decade when it comes to classic hollywood, still great though. For example, is no movie that has come out in the past 10 years (since the socialmedia era) that comes even slightly close to The Searchers. The 40s is a better decade and you can just look up “best movies of the 1940s” and every movie listed will be better than anything in the last 10 years. Im more curious what a good modern movie would be (American)
>>218177649Thumbnails are enough for me.
>>218177569>Fucking what? What a retarded hand-waveName one movie from the last 10 years that you would put next to the best 5 movies from any previous decade. If youre really confident name 5
>>218177374I love how she's pissing off all the commies & breadtubers.
>>218177687>smug in his ignorance. How very chuddy of you.
>>218177374>listening to a woman talk about anythingYou're a faggot if you watch this shit
>>218177487>>218177571>Empower women, chud! The future is female(TM)!>Wait...did that woman just express an opinions that deviates from the approved Ideological Script???... NOOOOO! SHUT YOUR MOUTH, YOU STUPID WHORE!!! GET BACK ON THE PLANTATION!!!
>>218177699She's directly attacking their low IQ politcal and low effort beanflicking writing. Of course it would piss them off.
>>218177699It's even funnier because they can't call her a woman-hating chud and be done with it, since she's herself a woman. They have to contort themselves into accusing her of being a crypto-fascist since wanting standards in writing is right-wing somehow.
YouTubers know even less than the dumb fucks in Hollywood do. I get that it's cathartic to give voice to your anger but it's the same laundry list of complaints with no real insight.
>>218177872Thats crazy. Anyway, the picture is not even related, so do you have any insight or are you also just complaining?
>>218177897Quit complaining about complaining about complaining.
>>218177374They just want to break our toys out of spite.
>>218177634Fusion of leftist activism fuzing with corporate media. They think that by working at Amazon, Netflix, disney, etc they can create media that is filled with propaganda which will then reshape society. This is all based on the idea that humans are blank slates - called social constructivist theory. Humans are born as mindless jellyfish, and have no innate instincts or desires, and it's society - with fictional media playing the biggest role in shaping what we value. Therefore, change the media, change society.Being generous we have something like 11 years of this being the dominant consensus among the creative classes, and billions spent, but zero change in attitudes.The "if you don't follow the line or else you support imperialism, prejudice, exploitation, etc" is a framework that comes out of communism btw. It's how people were kept in line with the whacky ideology.
The OP video is funny because she's completely terrified of giving any concrete examples of bad writing so she just makes blanket statements that can apply to whatever the watcher already was thinking of
People in this thread unironically watch Anthony Gramuglia.
>>218177698Lol, zero replies of course. These idiots don't even watch films they just complain on the internet.
>>218177928Why does she land like a frog?
>>218177994Literally never heard of him. Who is he? Some E-Celebrity that the Tranny Discords have named a new Boogeyman due to his heretical opinions.
>>218178061He's a grifter and former CBR writer. He pushes anything that owns the chuds.
>>218177872>YouTubers know even less than the dumb fucks in Hollywood do.The current state of Hollywood does not make this claim convincing.I've routinely seen "YouTubers" make entirely salient points that could have drastically improved movies & TV shows in their writing-stage and propose potential ideas & plot-points that are more interesting & more creative than 95%+ of the slop that makes it onto the screen these days.
>>218177374>deiask: who benefits from lower standards?standards have to be enforced culturally or they drop usually forever, women don't do that work against their own interest as everything about them gets worse as their time on earth goes over 25 years.
>>218177949>completely terrified of giving any concrete examples of bad writinghttps://youtu.be/P48-nYPVIxE
>>218177698MegalopolisGodzilla Minus OneThe Boy and the HeronA Real PainFlowDruk
>>218177678I wasn't impressed by The Searchers. You didn't convince me.
>>218178095Many of the most popular YouTubers make the same points over and over again, even just dissecting trailers rather than finished films.and when these YouTubers try their hands at making stuff it's usually terrible.
>>218177374The problem is, the big productions used to be story-based &/or song & dance numbers. Jews excelled at both of these, and produced decades of great movies. But first the 90s action movies came out, no story necessary, and the kids ate that shit up, & then titanic happened, and the money got so great that a flop could sink your entire company, so the studios let the accountants call the creative shots of the film to mitigate risk. Ever since, the jews have been floundering. Seth fuckin rogan filled the void by shitting out his mouth for 20 years, but then even that failed along with theaters in general, so that left us jews making a lot of shit we’re not good at and dont believe in, written by committees for markets that font exist anymore. Film is basically dead.
>>218177374White men make up nearly all significant creators an innovatrs in history, with the exception of some Eastern Asian men. White men have been systematically removed from creative positions. Ergo they fucking suck and people crave art from when they were in charge
>>218177928Why does he land like an embarrassing cliche?
>>218177374I can tell you what went wrong. When film was first invented, people were making movies with the expectation that it would be maintained forever on celluloid, so they took years to produce works and strived for perfection in stories about universal truths of the human experience, but in the post cable digital steaming era everything is superfluous, transient and banal, so everyone is just competing to quickly output the large quantity of content about whatever issues of the day can generate just enough day to day collective discussion to keep the streaming service's hype cycle going for another month.
I always throw out Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy as a properly classic-style modern film, although it's of course a remake and it's getting harder and harder to say this since it's been 14 years now
>>218178043She has gonorrhea.>>218178186Careful with that penis envy.
>>218178163Industrial designer here, and you could not be more wrong and anyone who knows anything about what you’re talking about. We just laugh at you for being so confidently wrong like a true ignoramus.
>>218177647Nailed them
>>218178186>when i jump i always make sure i punch the dirt and stare at it to show it who’s boss>bc landing with my body weight coming down on my finger bones makes sense or…>makes the little boys think i’m bad assss hur durrrJust a perfect example of retarded Marvel shit made for developmentally stunted 8yo little boys who wish they were more big & strong & powerful but have no fucking idea what any of that actually entails, so just go pointlessly punching the ground instead.
>>218178109Megalopolis - never heard of it. Godzilla Minus One - Mid. Very, very mid especially next to true kino like Shin Godzilla. The Boy and the Heron - Is that a Miyazaki film? That dude is a fag, and his movies are shit. A Real Pain - never seen it. Flow - Communist sloppaganda. I’m not surprised. Druk - This movie sucks. Its only value is in showing how cucked Scandi snow-apes are. No wonder they spread cheeks for the Muslim hordes.
>>218177374Digital cinematography + DEI + female executive leadership = dumpster fire of a movie industry.
>>218178320You don't watch much film, huh? You're in the right place.
>>218177374>Possible related search: bookcasewho is this?
>>218177374>What exactly is wrong?Almost nobody knows how to make movies anymore because all the New Hollywood people were raped by the studios while barrier to entry of film schools and the industry itself got so high it became impossible for anyone other than some hack with rich parents or somebdy tied to the industry to get in, which pretty much means you get almost no good filmmakers with actual life experience. Not to mention producers and executives now are arguably at the peak of their control over film production, which in turn has led to milquetoast, shitty movies that arr rook/feer/sound the same even compared to stuff from 20 years ago.>there should be amazing independent art that “does it right”There is, it's just either not from America or it's from the 1960s when the left was new and had the perfect mix of verve, wit, maturity, and youthful passion all at once. Now it has none of these things given the left has calcified into the institutions and become as much if not more of a burden regarding quality, varied filmmaking than the Hays Code.>No, it wasnt. You don't think Eddington or Marty Supreme were great films and exceptions that proved the rule?>Everyone picks up on the fact that almost all modern art is worthlessAgreed.
>>218178339>female executive leadershipIt's always some postmenopausal woman that's in-charge of a boys franchise like Star Wars or Transformers.
>>218178385I counted 8 eyerolls in the first two minutes.Uh,she's cute but seems TEDIOUS.
>>218178320>That dude is a fagHe's a Tedpilled neo-reactionary that's an abusive father who wants to fuck lolis, that makes him about as un-fag and 4chan-coded as it gets lol
>>218178415That’s because a mommy knows a little boy like and dude this is Star Wars and Transformers you’re talking about. These are properties for literal children.
>>218178415we all know it from childhood. a group of boys having fun together making up games, then a girl tries to join the group. she's lame as fuck but no one wants to hurt her feelings. all the sudden she's controlling the game and ruining it completely. one of the boys tries to fuck her, another one gets jealous and the whole group gets obliterated. this is currently happening in Hollywood.
Lol, chud intellectuals. Remember lotr? Remember terminator? Those were the times...
>>218178453>It's for kids!Fuck you pinko.
>>218178465>chud intellectuals>james cameron and jrr tolkienuh... as opposed to foid "intellectuals?" women are beyond pathetic. how many jane eyre novels have you read?
>>218177374There are still great movies that come out. The issue is that so many movies try to be good and end up feeling like parodies of good movies. Like something that would be on TV in a sitcom to make fun of Oscar bait. The other issue is an issue that has been around for awhile and that's things feeling like TV or streaming instead of like proper movies. But as someone who remembers the late 80s and the early 90s, movies are nowhere near as bad as they were when I was a kid. I have seen plenty of bad comedies recently but none as bad as Dan Akroyd and Tom Hanks in a Dragnet movie designed to spoof Lethal Weapon instead of being anything remotely Dragnet.
>>218177374It's a general decline in culture and education. Writers in the 90s could write dumb tv-slop and it seems high-brow by todays standard because those guys read Dostoevsky and Hemingway for fun.Now you got the writers that grew up with those tv-shows and lack the foundation to craft anything meaningful.
>>218178233Ok saaaar white countries be benchods i ceo
Hey just side the sane rationale people!
>>218178510>hating Dragnet (1987)Get the fuck off my board Tarantino
>>218178233>Industrial designerVery relevant, sentient shit pile
>>218178507Leftists know far more about culture than any chud. It's a fact.
>>218178465>insulting a womanShut up chud.
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>>218178581Like Bacha Bazi?
>>218178581leftists by definition exist as parasites from the state. how can any artist claim to be a commie faggot "leftist" who denounces individual liberty and free enterprise? so your grand artistic sense comes from being a faceless NPC? kys lmao.
>>218178624Makes you wonder why chuds don't watch any pre-1977 movies. Those were even more white.Oh right, your average chud is a Star Wars capeshit manbaby.
Better a chud than a hylic.
Too much content being produced now creates a feeling of choice paralysis (see streaming service scrolling) whilst simultaneously so much of the mainstream is samey making it paradoxically feel like there is no choice (how many shows are the exact same shit). People are more desperate than ever to come together over media which is why some stuff goes viral (remember Barbenheimer). But their attempts at mainstream culture is usually just chasing popular trends in disastrous ways (everyone wants an MCU) or being hyper specific to certain bubbles with large franchises (making people on new Star Trek shows sound like drag queens).The weird thing is how you can be hyper specific and a success by tapping into some niches (Heated Rivalry is fujoshi shit but popular). A lot of complainers are just angry that their blockbuster movies aren't exactly like they used to be even when they complained about past movies plenty and these people refuse to actually consume anything else. It's a mess.
>>218178686Makes me wonder why you are so mad that chuds dont like modern manbaby capeshit.
this is the answer whether you like it or not
>>218177374Another "trad" larper?
>>218178721But they love capeshit. They just cry that their favorite heroes got replaced by women and blacks.
>>218178581It's true. The experts on any kind of literary movement or artistic period are predominantly left wing. The intellectual right is vanishingly small, especially with the death of Harold Bloom.
>>218178766Lol. So they don't like it, hence why they bitch about it and dont watch it.Why does this make you mad?
Being a hedonist doesn't make you an intellectual.
>>218178829Well it's because white men are the devil & Women & blacks are never wrong.
>>218178109OP here>megalopolisI kind of agree desu but Coppola is too old, out of touch, and delusional to make a movie like this really stick the landing.>Godzilla Minus OneI do like it but its only good in the context of this era, it doesnt stand up to the top 5 of any other decade>The Boy and the HeronSimilar to Megalopolis, an old veteran from a previous era is doing something interesting, but that kind of movie can only be so good.>A Real PainNo>Flowagain good in the context of this era, doesnt come close to classic animated Disney, or Miyazaki>DrukNo
>>218178119>I wasn't impressed by The SearchersThen you dont understand movies on a fundamental level, or at least Ford
>>218178858>that picThat's a hard sell after hearing rightists push the "postmodern neomarxists" theory which they've finally given up on.
>>218178890>rightistsYou mean normal people.
>>218178876>you dont understand movies on a fundamental levelI'm a serious /film/ buff and my favorite directors and films all claim influence from this piece of shit along with other John Wayne movies but I think they're all unwatchable to the point of seeing them as the contemporary analogues to capeshit , down to the hilariously awful acting. Like I seriously feel like I'm being trolled whenever a director I love, respect, and look up to mentions this movie and other John Wayne shit because I find it unwatchable. Everything about these movies suck dick apart from the cinematography, not to mention John Wayne himself is tied with Kevin Costner as being the actor I've seen who is the most void of charisma and ability of anyone I've seen on screen.
>>218178890Its not "given up on" it's just so obvious and prevalent it's not even worth talking about anymore.
>>218178161That explains why Hollywood studio movies are bad but not the rest of them
>>218178890>"postmodern neomarxists" theoryDude literally everything in postwar Western culture is descended from the Frankfurt School and Trotskyists merging with neoliberal economics and postmodernism to create a bizarre dystopian hell.
>>218178876I prefer his other movies. Stagecoach is a better Western and movie than Searchers.
>April O'Neil was always black!
This could have been Inuitinua.
>>218178214This is true but again, even “art” movies are just ok or “good”. I havent seen a movie in the past 10 years that was better than just “good”. Even really impressive well made new movies I forget about in a day where as old movies stick with me forever and I think about all the time.
>>218178624so many threads can be answered with this chart lmao
>>218178946We live longer and are more prosperous than at any other time in history. When exactly was this premodernist utopia?
>>218178946>>218178934Frankfurt Schoolers weren't postmodernists and they heavily critiqued consumerism while posters ITT are conflating the leftist position with consumerism. Postmodernists as a whole were skeptical of core beliefs within Marxism like dialectical materialism and prominent postmodern writers directly attacked class analysis of sociological issues.Also, it's super obvious the modern left largely subscribes to a rights based moral framework which is modernist, not postmodernist, and philosophically liberal.
>>218179010>We live longer and are more prosperous than at any other time in historyWere. We were because we had the advancements brought on by the industrial revolutions and the world wars, and reached out absolute zenith in 1968 with the moon landing. After that however Boomers took over all the Western countries and literally sold them all away, economically they sold them away to China and the third world and deindustrialized us while the culturally sold us away by getting rid of the cultural structures, institutions, values, and identities that led us to this incredible height. Now everything is going to collapse given the demographic crisis is going to converge with global political and economic instability brought on by the cruel, parasitic policies and retarded leadership on behalf of the Boomers who refuse to fucking die or transfer power and wealth.
>>218179039Oh right wingers make many sloppy mistakes. They are most likely seeing "Critical theory" brought up as the umbrella term, then going to Wikipedia, seeing Frankfurt school then blaming them for everything. Frankfurt school has little relevancy to modern left wing activist thought. It is primarily French thinkers - post-structuralists and post-modernists thinkers. Yes, it's the cynicism and radical skepticism of Marxism, without any core marxist thought (like the economic theory), combined with Nietzsche's theories about how terms and concepts have no meaning. Thus they set sight at dismantling the evil oppressive systems created by the enlightenment and liberalism. American feminists and humanity professors of the 80s loved this shit. It influenced English studies, and various theories like Queer theory and intersectional feminism.Since truth doesn't exist, and concepts are made up, everything is a struggle of power between groups. Oh and this is a core concept of sociology. Oh and Jacques Lacan was popular among these same people, despite not being a post-modernist. He's a Neo-Freudian! There's no logical connection, other than the fact that they're French and it's different and radical sounding.
>>218179006Sounds like you have simply succumb to nostalgia, but art sucks now too for the same reasons I said, art used to be about trying to find universal elements of the human experience, now its all relative pop art and just trying to exploit the popular aesthetics and styles of the day.>I havent seen a movie in the past 10 years that was better than just “good”.Yeah, that is how being old works, new stuff for the generation that is superseding you sucks and you want to retreat to the good old days of your youth. >old movies stick with me forever and I think about all the time.They sucked too, you just watched them with the mind of a child and they are core memories as a result.
>>218179039>rights based moral frameworkYeah which are entirely subjective and constantly subjected to change.So how is that not post-modern?
>>218179039>Frankfurt Schoolers weren't postmodernistsI know, that's why I said their ideas and philosophies converged with postmodernists in the 1960s to create the New Left, which has dominated culturally since the rise of the Boomers.>Postmodernists as a whole were skeptical of core beliefs within Marxism like dialectical materialism and prominent postmodern writers directly attacked class analysis of sociological issuesThat's because postmodernists are sceptical of everything, they're a bunch of bitter contrarian retards who are the gnostics to the Frankfurt School's zealots.>conflating the leftist position with consumerism.Because conumerism itself became conflated with cultural Marxism, especially after 2008.>the modern left largely subscribes to a rights based moral framework which is modernist, not postmodernistThe modern left is a walking contradiction because it's a moral framework built on opposing all moral frameworks while stilll working in an intersectional form of Marxism that judges morality based on vectors of oppression. That's why I say it is rooted simultaneously in postmodernism AND the Frankfurt School and its descendants.
>>218178408>it's just either not from America or it's from the 1960sI mean, we are talking about American movies from the last 10 years. Thats the era I’m trying to diagnos here because its within that period of time that I can think of 0 good movies that I would even consider comparing the the great movies of the past. 2000s has quite a few, but pretty much starting from the mass adoption of social media until now there have been 0 good movies. >You don't think Eddington or Marty Supreme were great films and exceptions that proved the rule?No. Marty is a well made movie, and there are many well made movies made still. I try to look past asthetics because there will always been genius craftsmen, and when you look past the craft I think its a very weak story that doesnt even stick the landing. It didnt effect me and I wont think about it or watch it again. Eddington at least was going for something fairly unique, but Aster movies always feel too soulless and detached to be beyond just “good” no matter how unique it is.
>>218177374>Everyone recognizes movies are terrible nowNo, the shitty movies that you voluntarily inflict yourself with are terrible. Meanwhile there is plenty of very fine movies being released, but you don't pay attention to them because you're too busy glurping slop like the degenerate addict you are.
>>218179010No, the increasing lifespans went the way of the flynn effect and by what metrics are you measuring "more prosperous", wealth inequality?
>>218179154It's literally just your nostalgia. There are many good movies made nowadays. I enjoyed Tar more than All About Eve for example.
>>218179132Because those people believe rights are universal. That's why they criticize radically different cultures that fail to implement what they view as universal human rights.You understand that *you* are the one making the postmodernist critique here? You're literally deconstructing the concept of rights which is practically foundational to the past several centuries of Western thought, if not the past millennium when considering natural rights. In practice, modern right wingers, especially the online variety, are better postmodernists than the average liberal leftist.
>>218179180Yes. We aren't dying in millions of tuberculosis for example. And that was just 100 years ago. And it was even worse earlier.
>>218178931You are truly out of your depth here anon. The Searchers is one of the most genius works of art in the history of cinema. I dont really want to write an essay about it here and it certainly wont change your mind, all I can suggest is fo watch more Ford movies and movies in general. Your criticism is basically the same as someone saying the Lord of the Rings books are worse than the movies because they are more boringer>>218178970They said the 1950s. I do think Searchers is probably his best objectively because of how perfectly it encapsulates the entire genre and that era of America, but I do probably enjoy some of his other movies more
>>218179138I don't think you can claim they converged when they hold contrary positions on core beliefs. It's like saying atheists and Christians converged. One side has to win out on the foundational principles. The Frankfurt Schoolers clearly lost which is why they aren't in the top 40 or so most cited books in the humanities. >Because conumerism itself became conflated with cultural Marxism, especially after 2008.By right wingers, yes, who make idiotic conflations between opposed concepts and ideologies. That's the entire point I'm making. >The modern left is a walking contradictionNo it only appears that way because you're conflating several distinct academic camps with the popular left, all of which believe different things. It's like me saying that the ethnat right and the civic nat right mean the right as a whole is contradictory. >it's a moral framework built on opposing all moral frameworksThe overwhelming prevalence of a rights based framework in popular leftist discourse disproves this.
>>218179223>We aren't dying in millions of tuberculosis for exampleHumanity is on the verge of experiencing a demographic on par with the Black Death or crisis of the 16th century sometime this century due to aging, birthrate collapse, and a historically unparalleled wave of mass mental illness among the young, fertile population. You're a retard literally missing the forest for the trees.
>>218179268>Your criticism is basically the same as someone saying the Lord of the Rings books are worse than the movies because they are more boringerIt's literally just a generic Cowboys vs. Indians storyline with really pretty shots. I'll inevitably rewatch it but to me it doesn't stack up to the other Westerns held in similar regard from that time, i.e Big Country or Shane.
>>218179129>Sounds like you have simply succumb to nostalgiaMeh. Its possible but on a fundamental level old movies, even ones I have never seen before, invariably effect me more than modern movies. I cant remember the last time I saw a modern movie and was really effected deeply by the experience where as this happens all the time with older movies. And like I said, even kids younger than me dont seem interested in modern anything outside of meme content that they watch as a joke like Minecraft. >that is how being old worksExcept it’s not movies from my youth that I even like that much. I actually see the movies of my youth as a warning sign of things starting to get bad (late 2000s). Great movies from any other era (1920s-2000s) all have a quality that is gone from modern movies.>you just watched them with the mind of a childMovies that I watch for the first time now, from eras that I didnt grow up in, have this effect. Modern movies do not.
>>218179214But the rights themselves and how they are derived are obviously NOT universal or you couldn't pull new ones out your ass as soon as some minority cries "oppression". How on earth can it be a human right to get "gender surgery?".No I'm not denying the concept of rights, im denying that those "rights" are rights to begin with because once again in pure post-modernist fashion the left has managed to subvert the meaning of that word and its now basically "I really think society should give me that because it would make me happy and feel less oppressed", Instead of a concept that comes out of a natural law (the way Kant understood it).
>>218179199Ok I “enjoyed” Dune more than a lot of old classics. Its also technically a well made movie. I would never say Dune is better than any great classic movie because it isnt.
>>218179284>The Frankfurt Schoolers clearly lost which is why they aren't in the top 40 or so most cited books in the humanities.They didn't lose, their influence just superceded them. That's like saying nobody cites Hegel anymore so Hegel lost in the grand scheme of things, which is a ridiculous thing to say. Foucault is literally the textbook example of what I'm saying and he's the most cited by a mile.>right wingers, yes, who make idiotic conflations between opposed concepts and ideologiesOh don't fucking start with that pedantry, everybody implicitly knows that the left is far, far more uniform than the right politically and has been since the rise of Marxism.>you're conflating several distinct academic camps with the popular left, all of which believe different thingsWoe is me for thinking Hegelian Marxist A is different from Hegelian Marxist B, I guess they arr rook same to me because they all universally agree on the things they don't like and always rally together in lockstep to fight anything they think is on the right.>It's like me saying that the ethnat right and the civic nat right mean the right as a whole is contradictory.That's because the entire brain trust of the "right" isn't descended from a single philosopher from the 19th century; the "right" has everyone from Ancaps to Esoteric Nazis in it and everyone inbetween with wildly different people and belief systems.>The overwhelming prevalence of a rights based framework in popular leftist discourse disproves this.As I said, rights are based on oppression in a largely (but not exclusively) cultural context based around opposing all preexisting belief systems and using the institutions to uphold this new system.
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>>218179407Tar is better than many classic movies I've seen.
>>218179379The standard answer is that those right have always existed but haven't always been actualized.>How on earth can it be a human right to get "gender surgery?"They infer this from the right to bodily autonomy or even more broadly from a right to dignity.
>>218179331>It's literally just a generic Cowboys vs. Indians storyline with really pretty shotsI mean, its not. The surface level analysis would at least tell you its closer Taxi Driver than anything else. But theres more to it than that. Also, Ford doesnt make “cowboys vs indians” movies. All of his movies are incredibly thoughtful and layered. I do love Big Country tho
>>218179294Alarmist nonsense. None of this will happen in our lifetime.16th century wasn't even that bad compared to the next one.
>>218178119I wasn't impressed by this response.
>>218179451>those right have always existed but haven't always been actualizedHere's my question for the left: what is the end goal here? Because to me, it seems like the end result is just letting more and more people do depraved shit under legal protection to where all forms of preexisting belief systems and morality have been completely destroyed so we essentially have a stateless, classless, moneyless society but only on a cultural plane; all while the capitalists and the bourgeoisie make a mint off of our suffering givent they've reached the zero-sum conclusion of "no ethical consumption under capitalism" as nobody can say anything they do is bad or organize opposition to them.
>>218179443Tar is not better than All About Eve. We watch All About Eve 70 years later because its a timeless masterpiece, Tar is a technically well made movie that might still be watched by film nerds in the future because of the director.
>>218179485>None of this will happen in our lifetime.You must be an oldfag because I'm a Zoomer personally expriencing the early stages of this, which is something universal people my age have noticed regardless of political or cultural alignment
>>218179510I disliked this movie. There are some classics I don't care about. Tar usually ends up in top 10 of 2020s movies, so who knows what will be its legacy.
>>218177568NO, retard - YOU prove it. Post some movies from the last 20 years that stand up to the classics. I cordially look forward to laughing myself sick at your forthcoming idiocy.
>>218179440Except Hegel was writing in the 1800s whereas the Frankfurt Schoolers were writing in the 60s and 70s. They were contemporaneous with Foucault and Deleuze who are still widely cited. >everybody implicitly knows that the left is far, far more uniform than the right politicallyI don't think that's true when accounting for the range of ideological positions held by leftists, not just leftists in a particular center left party. Marxists, anarchists, liberals, and postmodernists can all be described as left yet they hold divergent beliefs with different sources. >Woe is me for thinking Hegelian Marxist A is different from Hegelian Marxist BBut they're not Hegelian Marxists. Postmodernists reject dialectical materialism. Poststructuralists reject the dialectic completely. Deleuze's entire metaphysics emerged as a counter to Hegel.>I guess they arr rook same to me because they all universally agree on the things they don't likeThat's not surprising given the Overton window is small and centered on liberal beliefs while we're discussing radicals.>That's because the entire brain trust of the "right" isn't descended from a single philosopher from the 19th century; the "right" has everyone from Ancaps to Esoteric Nazis in it and everyone inbetween with wildly different people and belief systems.Yes but that goes for leftism as well. Not every leftist is a Hegelian. Postmodernists (and existentialists) ultimately derived from Nietzsche and he was influenced by Schopenhauer who rejected Hegel. There are competing leftist traditions at play. Also there is an existing tradition of right wing Hegelians.>rights are based on oppression in a largely (but not exclusively) cultural context based around opposing all preexisting belief systemsRights derives from a set of liberal values and beliefs. It presupposes a belief system.
>>218179532>Post some movies from the last 20 years that stand up to the classics.HerThe Wind RisesLa BeteLetters From Iwo JimaWaltz With BashirThe RaidNacho LibreDrive My Car
>>218177374ermmm sorry for telling you this chuddette, but you were just epically fact checked and debunked by actual science
>>218179525What exactly you experience? A pandemic killing 1/3 of Europe? Neverending wars and famines? I think 2025 crime rate in American cities was the lowest since the 50s. Where is this massive collapse?
>>218179223>We aren't dying in millions of tuberculosis for example.But we are dying in the tens of millions of overdosed on medicines made to treat symptoms of tuberculosis and other diseases, not to mention cancer, autoimmune diseases, and car wrecks that just takes the lives of all the old people who would have died of tuberculosis in the past.
>>218179568We are falling off the peak, so it will be some time before things get really bad. Theres no telling whether it will be a slow decline or a rapid collapse following unforseen events
>>218179567damn there's a whole playlist of people seething at her saying that books about minotaur raping women on milking farms is not very normal
>>218179568>What exactly you experience? A pandemic killing 1/3 of Europe? Neverending wars and famines?I'm experiencing a society where generations past Millennials literally have no future because they can't afford to live, and have thus completely given up on life and retreated into the internet and drugs, both recreational and prescribed. It's estimated ~70% of people my age are still living with our parents and most believe they'll never own a house, while mental illness has spiked to where nearly all of our women and a large minority of our men are diagnosed with a mental illness and take medication, all while birthrates have plummetted and Boomers as I said are grinding up the West by creating a bizarre form of fiscal gerontocracy. Most of Europe likely won't exist by the end of the century while South Korea and Puerto Rico could seriously go extinct, and what remains of the U.S will be basically share the same fate as the Rust Belt to a far greater degree.
>>218177407Fat, stupid, and arrogant is no way to go through life, anon.
>>218177374>>milking glory>>a women milks a bull (how?)>>women swoon and goonyet men are the perverts?yet women choose beasts, remember they've chosen the bear, now they choose the bull to milk
>>218179547>Marxists, anarchists, liberals, and postmodernists can all be described as left yet they hold divergent beliefs with different sources.Except only Marxists and postmodernists are the only ones here that are large and influential while anarchism is a joke and I'd argue that modern neoliberalism has its roots in Trotskyism, which is Marxist.>Postmodernists reject dialectical materialism. Poststructuralists reject the dialectic completely. Deleuze's entire metaphysics emerged as a counter to Hegel.And yet the end result is the same, they all arrive to the same oppressor/oppressed dynamic they base all their ethics and morality on. That's what I mean when it's all the same.>Rights derives from a set of liberal values and beliefs. It presupposes a belief system.Not believing is a belief system in and of itself, there's a lot of ways to not believe in anything.
>>218179567>>218179619Damn. She really pissed in someone's cornflakes
>>218177487she's a midwit and gives me female fox news host vibes but some of her videos are goodlike the one breaking down that study on literacy rates of college students and how most of them are too dumb to read dickens
>>218179568it's not about crime, we're in a cost of living crisis
>>218179440>>218179284>>218179138>>218179039I was always amazed how people can argue about topics like these. All this shit is just vibes and feelings and is based on fanfictions of a random million years old alcoholic schizo. I can understand why scientists would argue with each other - there's a definitive truth, but in your case there's literally no difference between this and arguing which marvel superhero is the strongest one.
>>218179619I don't read new books, but your average chud knows so little about cinema despite criticizing it that I doubt they're more knowledgeable about literature.
>>218179568I don't think it's a fair comparison. You don't have pandemics and famines because of technological progress, not because human race became good guys or something. It's like drawing an equal sign between a guy with modern industrial tools and machines and a guy with medieval hammer and chisel. With the tools we have today our quality of life should be at least somewhat better than "well at least you don't have black plague or whatever"
>>218179843you're telling me there's a correct way of evaluating art? like, some form of rules?
They pulled the ladder up. Talented Millennials weren't allowed into the industry, unless they already had connections.Now we have an industry run by increasingly old and out of touch people, and absolutely useless DEI hires and nepo hires.Plus, just plain psychological warfare. They wanted to destroy everything you love. It was revenge for OWS, it was revenge for the fappening, and it was revenge for gamergate.And a lot of these people *are* too dumb to realise the money can run out.
>>218179947never understood left seethe about gamergateby the end of the day absolutely nothing happened, no shift in the industry, no firings, nothing. just an internet flamewar and they treat it like their fucking 9/11
>>218179451Well except I'd define "dignity" pretty much as the opposite of that and so would the majority of mankind that exists and has existed. Once again we are in post-modern territory where absolutely nothing has any meaning and words do a 180 if the right people decide that this is what it means.
>>218179947>Talented MillennialsOxymoron if there ever was any. Yeah bro you struggling to pay rent in Orange county while drinking $20 coffee milkshakes every day is totally a personality, you should make movie or videogame about it.
>>218179567I actually watched his video and his argument is basically that studies that she showed in her videos are saying that kids today can't fucking read at all and that these studies don't particularly have a quote like "there's a literacy crisis" and therefore she's a lying grifter
>>218179836Because truth itself is under attack and it's become fashionable to redefine words in an attempt to gaslight people into believing that nothing really holds any weight.
>>218179934They think of it as entertainment, not art. It's a problem when the most popular critics are ignorant about the medium they criticize. Just look at all these anti-woke critics. They are essentially stuck in the 80s and 90s and compare everything to movies from that era. And they don't even mention some obscure movies, it's always the same few flicks.
>>218179619>Those thumbnailsYeah I think I know where the Anger comes from.
>>218180035So your complaint is just that mainstream critics lack depth, not that they are wrong.Pretty dumb point to get hung up on.
>>218180035I'll look at these woke critics once you will define what "art" is and how is it different from entertainment
It's very simple. 90% of people in the writers room used to be white dudes. Now it's closer to 50% (or even lower).When you realize most of the shit you see on Netflix and the like was written by brown women it all instantly makes sense. This may seem like a puerile, /pol/tard-ish analysis but it's really that simple. You can look up the statistics for yourself.
>>218180078Are there other anti-woke critics that make youtube videos? They're propagandists, not people who genuinely love cinema.
>>218179988They exist. They don't have jobs in the industry. The problem is they're all too straight, white, and male, so Hollywood slams the door in their face.Maybe we get the very rare appearance of a Robert Eggers, which seems to be a total aberration. I guess he knew someone.
>>218179975it was the first time in living memory they were told "no". No, you don't just get to walk into any and every space, and fuck it up with your stupid anti-human ideology. Go away.They couldn't even comprehend such an insult, and I think they're still struggling with it. That's how deeply it cut them.
>>218180130If there are, they’ll never admit it. Maybe only a tiny slight hint. Once a youtuber admits to not liking woke stuff, they get dismissed
I don't know about tv shows, but for movies the biggest problem is the domination of shitty franchises for children.
>>218180159The thing about them is they don't think what they believe is an ideology. They think it's "being a good person". They think "progress is inevitable". These things are ineffable laws from where they're standing. You have to have kind of been one of them, and then to have snapped out of it, to see where they're coming from.
>>218180164Plenty of normal youtubers shit on Hollywood flicks.
>>218180218they can't say why they're bad. they can only awkwardly feel around and conclude that the problem is probably capitalism or "millennial writing".
>>218180235Which is true. The Little mermaid wouldn't be much better with white Ariel.
>>218180209And they're the ones to turnaround & call you brainwashed.
>>218180253it might have been better with an all white writing staff.
>>218177493This is an empty statement that ultimately suggests you know far less than you claim. The onus is on you to prove yourself otherwise I walk away from this conversation thinking you're a sad, insecure, ill-informed, undereducated nobody, and then forget you even existed seconds later, owing to how irrelevant you ultimately are.If you want me to remember you for more than 0 seconds, prove you know anything about what you say you know. But it's probably too late for that because "I promise I know more than you" is just such a cosmically retarded statement it's close to impossible to take anyone seriously again after he says something this insipidly childish and pointless.
>>218180291No, at the end of the day it's still a shitty remake.
>>218178890are these rightists in the room with us right now?
>>218178624All communists deserve death.
>>218180316*why* is it a shitty remake?What are the components that make a good movie?
>>218177374If the thread is still up in the morning I'll explain it to you
>>218180130>They're propagandists, not people who genuinely love cinema.According to who?
>>218177634Zootopia 2 was the most successful Disney animation of all time. Normal human beings are watching movies while chuds cry in the internet and make AI slop to cope.
>rightists thinking they are more sane than leftistsKek, you fags went so insane thay you would call Greek mythis woke if you knew them. You went from crying about postmodernists to becoming anti-science schizos with medieval peasant mentality.
>>218180387>Oh they fucked each other up the ass all the time!Why is it always sex with you people?
>>218180387Yeah yeah sure. Even if your strawman would be somewhat accurate it's still preferable to supporting the current direction that leftist ideology has brought us into.
>>218180387I'm not a "rightist". Peter Hitchens is right wing. He's a retard.I'm a normal person.
>>218177374>modern writing is degenerate >but I'm unable to come with good writingChuds in a nutshell.
>>218180387>muh hecking scienceLike what exactly Mr. Redditor? Give some examples.
Leftists don't care about games, comics or movies they just want to push their worldview onto everyone else. Compel or get a bike-lock smashed into your skull.
>>218180457Yes.
>>218180457whenever I see nu comic art, I'm like "why am I not working in comics?".This is really not very good. I don't consider myself a great artist, and I could probably draw this.
>>218180457Leftists are the one who make games, movies and books while conservacucks cope with AI and Daily Wire slopa.
>>218180330Yes
>>218180364They only talk about mainstream, trendy shit.
>>218180481Anybody to the right of Mao is blacklisted.
>>218178320>Flow - Communist sloppaganda. I’m not surprised.Considering its midwits who think its about muh climate change shows your midwittery.
>>218180481And yet you are still mad.
>>218177374Degenerate = it doesn't appeal to chriscucks
>>218180481You mean there is a palpatable aura of fear among people in the spotlight and every time some creative dares having a sensible take (or just stays silent) they will get mobbed by you retards attempting their best to destroy their life?
>>218180551Don't you have some kindergarten to shoot up tranny?
>>218177928>rightoids see art as toys
>>218180580The Left only sees art as tool to radicalize.
>>218180580Super hero movies are considerably more on the toy side of things, yes.
This was 10 years ago already.We are so far gone.
Another grifter talking bullshit into the camera. God I hate youtube.
>>218177647All you chuds do is consume liberal media and endlessly complain about liberal media. You have the daily wire and other right wing networks creating works just for you, go watch and enjoy.
>>218178095Ok but heres the thing Critical drinker has written many books and wrote a short film most of which are terrible, Mauler wrote a comic short for Eric July which in turn was also terrible. The youtube critics mostly suck at creating art.
>>218178104He could've said the Grudge or the other japa horrors pushed in the west. What a hack, no mention of anime or manga. kek
>>218180755I made PTA's latest communist propaganda bomb and I will do it again.
>>218177374>RedheadBased>Big boobaBased>Clearly getting fat and hiding it with angles and the tableNot based>WalledNot based>Male coded to appeal to "rational red pill" menDon't look at her tinder history you won't like what you see.
>>218179125Actual PhD here. Postmodernism is old we have new frames now. Please actually look up something from an academic publisher in the last decade.
>>218180816Thats fine but could you like invest in creators like s craig zhaler please. You faggots will pay for trump coins and other rght wing bullshit but won't invest in art. Trump pushed his wifes movie in the theatres and is pushing for Brett Ratner to return to hollywood. kek
>>218177374Hilary my beloved
>>218177647>I am a stunted infantilic idiot but what about leftistsLmao Self reported.
>>218177374To put it simply, there is no longer any craft in Hollywood. People who were proud of their work disappeared.
>>218177374the pumpkin spice gaming pc made me laugh
>>218177374Pure, loving missionary with her must be the greatest feeling ever
>>218179554nacho bludclart libre
>>218178453And they managed to ruin them and turn decades old guaranteed money makers into financial pits
>>218177374I liked>Nightcrawler >The Place Beyond The Pines>It Follows>The Witch>The Lighthouse>Ex Machina>Drive>Better Call Saul>Perfect Days>Cloud Atlas
>>218177374>a blatant advertisement threadKill yourself.
>>218181323Naww have a sook cunt
>>218178918No, whining chuds aren't normal right wingers.
>>218177374>uhh it's not millennial writing/jews/women/dei, because it just isn't, ok?
>>218178023so why is tranny here cryingmad your propaganda doesn't reach every corner of the internet?
>>218177374I don't like modern movies because they ooze with mean spiritedness.Villains are written in a way that they come off as stupid and solely to act as punching bags for the author, strawmen, voodoo dolls to "get at" [thing the author doesn't like]. Villains don't elicit fear or respect, only ridicule for the author to point their finger at and scream LOOK AT HOW STOOPID X IS EVERYONE LAUGH.Heroes are detestable in a way or the other. The author wants us to root for them but it's hard for me to do so when either: A) the character is really a mouth piece to gratuitously prop up [thing the author likes] without that character really working for that praise and it's instead gifted to them from the getgo, being perfect in every way; B) the character has no charisma or is downright unlikeableConflicts lack a universal quality to them, what I mean by that is that it's never a matter of, I don't know, courage or fear or honor i.e. things anyone in the world can get behind, but instead the object of conflict is something only a portion of the crowd would perceive antagonistically.Characters lack dignity, their entire demeanour is undignified and therefore offputting, who wants to see a grown adult behave like a high schooler? I don't. You see it with adult characters reacting to things in a way you think they wouldn't for their age. They come off as immature
>>218179567>>218179619if she pisses off People like that, then she's doing something right, that's for sure
>>218181372you lost :)
>>218181051I dont believe this this golden age used to pump out crappy westerns every weekend for cheap. It's always been about money first art second.
>>218180755>>218180930>this is the best brigaders gotkek
>>218181438>[thing the author doesn't like].> [thing the author likes] Almost all media is now created downstream of social meida. The writers are on twitter 24/7, and they have strong opinions on things. It's also why our reference pools are small. No one reads, no one knows anything about history, and it's just current thing. >Rich tech billionaire? Must be Elon Musk! And they don't watch tv or film either. Oftne they have not seen a film before 2000 at best, but now it's 2010. They are in fact the perfect social media addicts, but the worst people to make modern media.
>>218179988Lol every time this comes up and you ask the obsessed butthurt zoomer to name anyone creative or successful from his generation, the best he can come up with is "uhh working in hollywood is gay anyway"
>>218181438>Characters lack dignity, their entire demeanour is undignified and therefore offputting, who wants to see a grown adult behave like a high schooler? I don't. You see it with adult characters reacting to things in a way you think they wouldn't for their age. They come off as immatureOne example
>>218181491I know you and the other chuds are enjoying knights of the seven kingdom where the main character has a brown girl fetish. Kek>Oh but that's fine it isnt as woke as House of DragonkekLiberals won and we will keep on winning.
>>218179988Eat shit pussy faggot. A millienial wrote and directed the best movie of the decade.
>>218177487>genre fiction slopthat's always what the people complaining about "lack of quality in media" seem to want. they're not going to see Anora or Sentimental Value at the cinema, they want better Predator movies. they're part of the problem.
>>218177374>Another whore LARPing as trad.
>>218181710The only proper response here and it's from a frogposter. Take note /teevee/
>>218181438>Villains are written in a way that they come off as stupid and solely to act as punching bags for the authorAnd even THEN, you will often somehow end up with a 'villain' that people root for because he is completely morally right.I cannot think of a better example than group of Jedis in Acolyte. Episode 3 was supposed to set up their later reveal as villains or morraly dubious later, when episode 7 justified literally everything they did, and there is no fucking way that was author's intention.
>>218181780uhh sounds like you failed at le Media Literacy
>>218179567>she looks like a man in quotes>thumbnail is a line up of characters who look like a manLeftie eternal struggle with reality.
>>218181438You gave zero examples to back up your claims and no examples of what you consider good media. This is another shchizo post.
>>218181664>One Tranny After Another version 2.0Shitlennials really aren't beating the allegations of being waste of space and oxygen.
>>218181438You could just say it's feminists and niggers and save yourself the wall of text.
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>>218180367yeah because 1 acceptable kids movie comes out a year. last year was bad guys 2
>>218177699I tried looking up some of their counter arguments but it's all panic about her dogwhistles while I feel these are the type of people who have 2 dogs no kids and will die out in a generation as Mormons keep multiplying.
>>218180416>Zack Synder as S-tierHis movies (the ultimate director's cuts version of his movies, like "Justuce League: Synder Cut") are way too fucking long. Directors before him were able to make compelling movies before him without them 4 hours long or longer.
>>218180367>release next to nothing>spread out what you do release>sensible people save their money in between releases>damn near everyone consumes the release because they've waited for a worthwhile product for literally years>brag about setting records despite consumers spending a fraction on your shit overall compared to 15 yrs agoif the whole world was starving and i somehow made poopooslop for everyone, my poopoo slop would be the world's most consumed food for quite a while
>>218181998>brag about setting records despite consumers spending a fraction on your shit overall compared to 15 yrs agothis. they set a sales record every quarter and then post a huge loss for the year. dishonesty as a form of distribution to fool brainless investors
>>218181835nah you're wrong, Eddington is great. it also came out before one battle after another. its also not based on a book like one battle after another is.>>218178624this is a big part of it, but doesn't tell the full story.>>218177374people are getting dumber. its a combination of general brain rot, diversity initiatives, and dumb media selling better than smart media. everyone is retarded now, so they're making retarded movies. i also think there was a cinematic cultural peak from 1979-2001 fueled by boomer talent, inspiration from more classical films that people had forgotten, and an excited fan base that cared about movie stars and movies in general. coming off that peak into a valley of DEI demands and profit chasing remakes/legacy sequels must be tough.
>>218177374>>inb4 you are depressed/old/movies were always like thisI don't know what kind of films you watch, anon, but I check old films and in them you can see degeneration too >protagonists cucking old rich men >women falling in love with protagonists despite being married >even the women that don't cheat (physically) would rather betray their families than stay loyal to them because the protagonists made them "feel something" Best examples are westerns, ALL James Bond's films, noirs and neo-noirs, lone wolf adventurers that finally settled (after they now wifes have cucked their previous husbands), etc.
>>218182315both left and right are embarrassing in their own way
>>218182488The difference is, the one on the right seems embarassed of its own lore.
>>218177374Imagine the body count.
>>218180457
>>218182488You're embarassing
>>218178512Same thing happened to music. In the 70s you have all these ands creating music based on having grown up listening to Motown R&B, soul, folk & jazz, and the shit they made based on it all was a distillation only a generation removed from the source. Then in the 80s it was copies of 70s ideas but made with crappy digital production gear, and from then on its been music made primarily by people listening to copies of copies, not the original raw early stuff, and it’s all so watered down now theres no musicality even left in this shit, to the point that ai imitations of modern “artists” are filling spotify and listeners cant even tell the difference. Ai can make you an endless supply of shitty 808 on a grid, tone-deaf copy & paste hiphop trash because its so low effort it barely even meets the definition of music. Rewind just a few decades and no, ai cant make you a passable fucking Led Zeppelin, Charlie Parker, Monk or Mingus piece, but then we also had a population who could tell the difference.This fidelity reduction problem of copies of copies is really good at producing an endless supply of disposable commodified trash and a public trained to think its whats for dinner.
>>218180457Why is the innocent van driver passed out while covered in glass just glossed over?
>>218182632don't take weebshit too seriously my man
>>218182315>DMC>Sincerelol
>>218177407Chud, like any other leftist buzzword, just means "normal person who disagree with my leftist outlandish religion", and since we are living through a massive shift away from your side we can safely assume that by "chud" you simply mean normal people and the majority, if not almost everyone.TLDR: OP is objectively right and almost everyone agree, the other being politicized leftist cattle
>>218179622Well said and I dont want generalize but the reason why most of us are in need of medication is because we simply cannot fathom hardships and face our shit and solve it. We need meds to cope up with other people, we need meds to talk to people, we need meds because someone encourages us to do harm to our body, we need meds because you cant find a significant other, we need meds because we cant get pussy, literally everything is anxiety inducing to us. Guess what, people had those worries before too but they pushed through and took accountability. It's easy to blame older people but despite being young, I didn't spend my youth on voip or create a foundation for my life from social media so I didn't become a socially inept retard.To stay on topic, it's because we live in a world of remakes and in a world where "creators" already take established IPs and forcibly add their own shit lore in it just to leave their mark. House of the Dragon and Alien Earth for example.
>>218177487Correction. You checked you youtube channel and got comically angry because she disagree with your religion
>>218177510Thin Man 1-6 with William Powell and Myrna LoyMiss Marple 1-4 with Margareth Rutherford
>>218177547>Nobody reads any more, that's why the writing is so bad.That's just one reason
>>218177374It's just the lack of truthful storytelling. It's not that complicated. Emotion-forward storytelling displaced truthfulness in film, as it did in literature.
>>218177374Others have kinda hinted at it but leftism is a whatever you want to call it basically communism is a means to an end philosophy. It doesn't matter what IP they trash or if the entire industry is destroyed as long as the message gets across to the youth. They don't care about you, you are old. They are thinking about the next generations they can brainwash into their ideology. So if they grow up watching cartoon's, movies that promote their ideology then ideally when they grow up they'll be adequately conditioned to participate in the revolution and become disruptors of the capitalist machine and install the new communist government.Look into the red guard and the struggle sessions and to some degree the 100 flowers movement. Basically it's the youth that bring about the revolution they just don't realize when the new communist government is installed all that disruptive behavior is now unwanted because it threatens the new regime so they are summarily round up the disruptors and execute them like in Mao's time.Think the great leap forward and iconoclast. As in get rid of the old ideologies, traditions, religions and the state and the ruling elite take those positions. They become gods of the state atheistic religion. Remnant's/icon's of the past are destroyed hence how commies like to behead or destroy old statues that remind people of ideologies they don't agree with. The old generations are subdued and worked to death so they don't contaminate the newer generations with the old ways.Yes their is a problem with blinding yourself to the past and destined to repeat it if you do this type of stuff hence these forms of civilization having no staying power and it also brings in the elements of human nature which select for tyrannous types lusting after power and doing anything to attain it in these systems. It is also satanic in nature the same types of people that caused the french, english revolutions were involved in the Russian and chinese ones.
>>218177936Yep. leftism (and especially communism) is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of human nature
>>218177374Hollywood monoculture.That's the root of the issue. The entertainment industry is an insular, corporate environment where you need to schmooze and gladhand to get opportunities. Writing rooms don't just select for talent, they select for whether or not you're a yes-man cocksucker who "fits in" with their annoying leftist environment.Also, you're a fucking moron for thinking independent movies are really possible. The talent to make them is rare outside of the Hollywood bubble, and the money to make them is even more vanishingly rare besides that. You need to hire a company to do CG? A good editor with a strong resume? You just need a competent director with a few movies under his belt? All of the resources AND professionals are just chained to Hollywood.This is common sense and it's a mystery to nobody. The consequence of this way of doing things though is that you literally cannot be involved in 99% of the film industry unless you are a faggy Los Angeles leftist.It comes out in the writing.It comes out in the acting.It comes out in the directing.It comes out in the marketing.
>>218180755Your shit flopping because people don't watch it contradicts your statement
>>218182315No offense to the japs, but they can't write for shit. I haven't seen DMC netflix show why would I the original is also badly written nonsesne for teen boys.
>>218177487She’s alright but her video on evil characters not actually being evil really pissed me off because its such a childish understanding of why/how people are/become evil.
>>218181978Like any leftist counterargument they are just loops of "Ain't she bad? uhuhuhuh"
>>218181978>feel these are the type of people who have 2 dogs no kids and will die out in a generation as Mormons keep multiplying.I was raised as the latter and became the former.
Smartphones killed all, we need regulations. It's the scourge of society at the moment
The people who wrote all those Harry Potter and Gundam Wing yaoi fanfics at the turn of the century now control everything. It's fucking joever.
>>218182796>It is also satanic in nature the same types of people that caused the french, english revolutions were involved in the Russian and chinese ones.Basically the frankists and the jacobins caused the french and english revolutions doing regicide and killing the royals. Following the teachings of Jacob Frank who formed the illuminati with Adam Weishaupt in the 1600's. Then the bolsehvik's who followed similar teachings did regicide in the russian revolution and killed the royal family and took over. Then the bolshevik's offered mao advice for his communist revolution in China.Jacob Frank is a disciple of Sabbatai Zevi both claimed to be the Jewish messiah and had huge followings up to 1 million jews. They followed the Babylonian talmud and kabbalah and not the torah(first testament.) They both preached as with Rabbinical law that once the messiah has come a new age was upon the jews and the old world was dead so old jewish laws no longer applied and a new world with a new set of rules is coming. So jews could now sin and do nasty things to gentiles without incurring gods wrath because the messiah had come and the old laws no longer applied. Notice a similarity with communism and these false prophet's teachings? Out with the old and in with the new.
Shes just regurgitating the same dead topics from Critical drinker. These people are all the same rinse and repeat, almost as annoying as breadtube back in the day. Her latest video is attacking strong female characters, fucking christ, at least write some good stories before you nag us to death.
>>218182883did you keep the magic pajamas though
>>218181978>dogwhistlesThese were at one point real things. In the South you couldn't run on explicit segregationist policy, so they used other code phrases and everyone knew it. Now it's taken on to mean something else in the YouTube land. They are now secret hidden codes, that no one other than these people know the REAL hidden meaning of. Something might be benign and overlap with far right online communities, but itself be meaningless, but they say it's a "Dogwhistle". For instance: Bane and the other Dark Knight Rises jokes got popular among the MAGA types and breadtubers call it a "Dogwhistle". Is it? It's just overlap of user bases. It's not like if I say "Big Guy FOr you" I know you are secretly giving the Neo-nazi handshake.These people spend too much time online and too much drinking paranoid kool-aid.
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>>218177374After reading this thread i look forward to the first country with a half-dozen virology grad students & a crackpot leader that releases a major bioweapon and wipes out 99.999 % of the earths human population. What a waste of resources this stupid species has been.
>>218183049Be the change you want to see anon and start with yourself.
>>218178126>>218180779Not an argument.You don't need to be a world class chef to tell what's wrong in a badly cooked meal.Also doubt you have read those books or watched those movies
>>218178233>No argument>Only seething
>>218178341Not the shit you make, like anyone normal
That woman has horrible vocal fry. Who is listening to that for an hour? Do chuds really enjoy this nonsense?
>>218183218I watch with the sound off on my second monitor
>>218180580It’s a figure of speech, retard.
>>218177407Leftists once again running defense for decay and enshitification.
>>218178465Yeah, those are unsurpassed and mog the everliving shit out of anything made in the last 15 years combined.Was that supposed to be a gotcha?
>>218178581The left never made anything.>>218178792lololol
>>218183298No, it is us recognizing that most media was shit, that media as an artform is vast (both in the past and present), and us not allowing survivorship bias to cloud judgment of media and the current landscape of media
>>218178686>Makes you wonder why [normal people] don't do this thing they actually doThey do, that's why your shit bomb
>>218183348>Defines uncreativity as the presence of blackKill yourself you kike
>>218177374>Used MeToo and OscarsSoWhite as a battering ram to force the old (white male) talent out, and force in a bunch of millennial hacks who were fresh out of college, and then proceeded to gatekeep the industry from anyone who wasn’t all-in on globohomo. They have no true life experience to draw from, so they framed everything in the context of perceived social injustices, and it became less about selling tickets and engaging audiences, and more about “forcing behaviors”.After years of fans hoping for things to go back to normal telling them to stop, and them responding with “FUCK YOU, MINE NOW! FUCK YOU, MINE NOW!”, the fans finally gave up any hope of a return to the “good old days”, and actively want to watch it all burn, and even the normies have lost interest, and gone back to watching old episodes of The Office and Cake Boss.tl;dr Years of cultural vandalism and a standoffish attitude toward audiences finally broke everyone of their addiction to a constant flow of new shit.
>>218178746>A woman that doesn't sing the party line? IMPOSSILE!
>>218178792>predominantly left wingyet all of them would hat your woke guts and vote against you
>>218183382>>218183382>MeToo and OscarsSoWhiteNotice these are social media campaigns? It allows us to organize for but also against things. Short sighted people think they can gather on social media, organize something, then pull off this amazing cultural heist while no one is the wiser. Meanwhile their critics can also use social media and alert each other that they're not crazy, something is happening. Which then undoes that entire cultural heist. And social medai and streaming allow for alternative media - so we don't have to go to theaters anymore. Which means "legacy media" is on its way out in the end. Having people who were smart forward thinkers may have given a few more decades and a soft landing. But it's gonna crash and burn.
>>218179175>Meanwhile there is plenty of very fine movies being releasedNope>>218179199>There are many good movies made nowadaysnope
>>218179530>>218179443>>218179199you just like shit
>>218179407>DuneDune yes, DUNC no
>>218177374the medium is shifting to AI and we don't have that much talent with it yet
>>218177374first off there are still good movies being made but lets get into a few reasons modern films tend to suckLighting: filmmakers seem to want the viewer to see everything rather than use lighting to set moods and tones. Watch Del Toro films to see modern lighting done rightCellphones: the moment cellphones entered the world of cinema so much went to shit. especially horror. The film either need to pretend they dont exist, find reasons to get rid of them, or put them front and center like a another characterCapitalism: as the machine cranks into higher and higher gears the quick and easy reboot becomes more and more desirable to production companiesWriters: reboots dont need good writers, why pay for them?clash between culture and production: im all for representation and all that but production companies dont know how to handle it without making it a gimmick. as a result dialogue and interactions feel unnatural
>>218179451The dignity of throw away your dignity is not dignity
>>218182858>why/how people are/become evil.what's your theory of evil anon?
>>218179554Swing and... miss
>>218179843>>218180035>>218180130Projection. you are just seething because people don't watch YOUR movies
>>218180387>outlandish hypotetics>nonsequitur>ad hominem>things that never happened>projection>ignorancelmao amazing post anon
>>218177479>Background characters don't exist anymore, sets are just empty rooms with the main cast>Rarely if any shots of whatever city the movie/show is taking place in to give a sense it is actually taking place somewhereThese are big issues for me. I especially hate it when a scene takes place outside and they're in a studio.
>>218177374....Scully?
>>218180416This list was made by a seething snydertard completely disconnected from any realityS is music video director at best and crashed all his project, now he has no career. Should be either at the bottom of the list or completely removed from itA hasn't made anything worth existing since the 90sB & C are in the right placeD can't make moviesF is at least better than Villememe
>>218180448>>modern writing is degenerate>>but I'm unable to come with good writing. NO, WHAT YOU WROTE WON'T BE PUBBLISHED OR PRODUCED!!! YOUR INDUSTRY IS MY PROPAGANDA MACHINE NOW!!!FixedWoketards in a nutshell
>>218180481You dont' make anything. you just invaded our entertainment industry and kicked out anyone normalAI mogs you. Yeah, you are that bad, if you couldn't tell by your flops
>>218180551Degenerate = It's the opposite of what normal people likeChristcuckery is better than your "religion". It makes you seethe because it says your mental illness is not normal. And so does science
>>218180862It doesn't matter.Everything descended from postmodernism that doesn't reject most of it outright is just regression to idiocy and anti-knowledge. That you have asspulled yet another new name to try and confuse, misdirect and gain the rhetorical upper-hand in a discussion like this isn't relevant.Your built on a foundation of nonsense and is just more nonsense.It's fucking insane how many modern papers written by asshole modern PhDs have glaring flaws in basic reason and logic.>see bold claim with citation>check citation to see if it supports claim>citation is about something completely different and has nothing to do with claim>everything is couched in dense, obfuscated prose that makes it seem more intellectual than it really isIt's a stark contrast from reading something like a physics paper, where you will follow citations and strain your brain to understand how each concept fits together in a solid and robust foundation. Your types of papers involve straining the brain to recognize the elaborate and varied manner of disguising complete and utter garbage with no (or more often, negative) truth value.
>>218180734>a channel not chanting the party line? IMPOSSIBLE!!!
>>218181487Ah, yes, the leftist 'eternal present theory'
Over a decade of whining about woke media and not a single thing made except podcasts and putting vhs filter over greek statue
>218177487>218177407kys you retarded, subhuman tranny. Defending the worst of goyslop like this.>>218180862>you need to undertake extensive study to perfectly articulate your complaints about modern goyslop or else you're not allowed to critique garbage tv shows and movies made by morally bankrupt marxist filth.kys. Intellectual pussies like you get 5+ covid booster shots before you finally realise it was a scam and damaging your health.
>>218181438100% agree
>>218181632Even your side voted against you.All you can do is to retaliate from your last bastion, our entertainment industry
>>218181699No we don't want your pretentious bad moviesNo we don't wand franchise regurgitationMake something as good as predator but new. Protip: you can't
>>218181710>A woman not chanting the party line? IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!
>>218182072>Eddington is great
>>218177374>words words words wordsholy fuck the melty is strong in this thread. Anyway I just wanted to say.That is a very sexually attractive woman and I am now going to watch her videos and agree with her solely because of that, thanks for the recommendation.Chudettes ftw.Good Day.
>>218182916Is the problem solve?No, then shut up
>>218180360lets go big boy
>>218178233Sure thing, Shitbrown
>>218183372>leftist reading comprehension>>218183350>my logical fallacy says everyone is biased, otherwise they would have no reason to contradict meAs usual you see facts and chose to say the opposite
>>218177374Is she still coping with being ugly by complaining about everyone else enjoying sex (without involving her)?
>>218183382This.I wouldn't care about new things even if they became suddenly good at this point.I just enjoy news of their continuous flops
>>218183501>first off there are still good movies being madeStopped reading there
>>218183792Woke shit keep bombing tho
>>218184032>Degenerate minotaur handjob fanfiction lover argument against normal pretty woman: "Ain't she ugly? uhuhuhuh"
>>218183982Based and priorities pilled
>>218183382>>218184047that's just the culture of the right now: shit on popular things. until people start talking about hidden gems and encouraging people to watch them, we'll still only get slop. but YTubers make money now by being critical of 'modern film'
>>218184076great so now we have nothing decent being made any more. problem solved
>>218184158>shit on popular thing>popular things>popular
>>218184207your point? ytubers just talk about big blockbuster and how it's dei garbage, they never point out films that they actually like because their audience just want to yell at cloud
>>218184188That has been the case for 15 yearsThe other problem is woke shit that needs to be burned and purged from the industry
>>218184224>The other problem is woke shit that needs to be burned and purged from the industry>>218184224Cope.Make shit people don't want, get yelled atLeave the industry to normal people if you are tired
>>218177374Just watch ShoeOnHead, at least she's hot.
>>218184226we get it, woke is shit. but do right wingers actually like any films and want to boost them? or do their audience not care because they are tired old men and automatically don't care about anything new>>218184244it's not a cope you fucking spastic. hating woke has been done to death. are you telling me there aren't any films a year that right wing YTubers can't point to and encourage their audience to go see? or do they not care because their audience just wants to moan at big popular shit
>>218184224>they never point out films that they actually likeThe problem discussed is new things being bad.Try to stay focused>because their audience just want to yell at cloudthat's you seething at people not wanting to watch your stuff
>>218184291People got fed up with forced inclusion, swaps and political messaging. It's very tiresome to watch a movie or a show and there's an agenda being shoved down your throat
>>218184291>hating woke has been done to death.Is the problem solved and woke purged?No, then shut up>but do right wingers actually like any films and want to boost them?yes. hundreds of them. Just not made now, since now only your shit get made> or do their audience not care because they are tired old men and automatically don't care about anything newwe automatically don't care because after 15 of everything being shit it's legitimate to ignore things until you get news of a massive change in the industryalso it's not le right wing, it's everyone normal
>>218184292>The problem discussed is new things being bad.yeah and if you keep only talking about bad instead of trying to get something new made, things are gonna remain badtry to stay focused, at least on something other than sucking dick>that's you seething at people not wanting to watch your stuffare you mad that your fave ragebait ytuber got criticized?>>218184327not even bother to read all of this because you are being dense, i'll just explainit's not enough to criticize, you need to offer an alternative. it's like the trad wives movement to replace thottery. not even saying it was successful or well done but at least it was an attemptat some point you have to move on and create but boomers are just stuck in a bitch about everything phase lmao
>>218177374>inb4 millennial writing/jews/women/dei>what's 2+2? And no, don't give me that 4 bullshit
>>218180481that's why everything is shit nowadays lol
