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Racism won
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>>218181990
What alien race is that?
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>>218181995
Sheboon
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>>218181995
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>>218181990
>The nightmare is finally going to end
Yeah, along with the series. It's over. They have destroyed it and it's way, way too late to revive it.
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>>218181995
In the Tourettes star cluster, they're known as the Knigg Ur.
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>>218182027
That's not a negative. I'd rather it be buried. I dont need new content if its shit. There's enough old content thats not shit.
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>>218182125
Touche.
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>>218182038
kek
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i can't imagine how joyful the casting directors got when they saw that black woman's face.
another chance to dunk on the masses.
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>>218181995
Watermelonians
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>>218181990
>Paramount has NOT renewed Alez Kurtzman's contract.
But they will.
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>>218181995
It's obviously a Klingnog
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>>218181995
Baltimorean
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>>218181990
They will double down.
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>>218181995
one race
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>>218182313
At this point they're like 16x downing and it hasn't paid off.
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>>218181990
>Computer, recreate an awards ceremony from the early 21st century
>Disengage censorship protocols
>Increase outburst volume and duration 400%
>transport Mr LaForge, Worf, Captain Sisko, Jake Sisko and Guinan to the front row, and restrain them with forcefields
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>>218182338
>it hasn't paid off.
I'm sure they are really sad about it. Weirdly enough.. they seem to keep getting work nonstop by jumping from IP to IP.
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>>218181990
>2556x2542px, 3MB screenshot of a tweet
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>>218182313
The black bitch looks like she has double Down's.
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>>218182338
>hasn't paid off
Even better they made zoomers into sexist antisemites. It's funny as fuck.
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>>218182335
Oh FFS. Do not tell me the alien race that seeded the humanoid form that died off literally billions ago are still around now.
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>>218182382
>sexist
More like sexless. Zoomers are the growing demographic against seeing nudity and sex in media.
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>>218182382
they're even gayer than millennials
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>>218182435
Star Trek is the last show that should be showing nudity and sex.
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>>218182335
Yakub?
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>>218182364
>suhkdeep seething about PNGs again
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>>218181990
The only characters that are objectively inherently bad are the black hologram and the fish guy. The black hologram because her entire character is "I'm literally a black retard" and the fish guy because "I'm a jock but not really and I want to be a captain but not really" is not adequate character design.

The real problem is that the actual plots of the non-Giamatti episodes are worse than CW-tier. People eyerolled at the bad episodes of Smallville but there's NOTHING in Smallville that is as bad as SFA. Fucking STD and Picard seasons 1 and 2 had better writing than SFA. Every single writer should be banished from the industry.
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unironically, what were they thinking?
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>>218182013
Why this old ass nigga be gasping like an anime girl.
>ARA, TOURETSU-KUN CALLED ME A NIGGER, SUGOI....
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>>218182497
Nudity sure, the series is full of people having sex.
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>>218182497
Not saying it should. I was merely pointing out Zoomers are becoming major prudes with sex and nudity.
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>>218182676
A combadge? Bitch looks like she's swallowed Deep Space 9!
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>>218182535
>white man bad
>but white man have money and watch star trek...
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>>218181990
No one would care if the characters were attractive. I don't get why they stopped casting good-looking people in things
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>>218181990
Nightmare won't end until the Paramount goes bankrupt and sell the IP. Then a new worse nightmare will start.
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>>218182535
They were thinking they've got infinite wealth because they've got their hand on the entire rothschild banking system's money printer and they can use our own productivity fund infinite antiwhite propaganda as long as our nations are roughly functional
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>>218182650
You're saying they can't "fix" people in wheelchairs like they fixed Geordi's eyesight? How is being in a wheelchair not a massive impediment on a starship?
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>>218182816
>purchased by amazon
fml my life
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>>218182821
Hope you guys have enough silver.
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>>218182830
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>>218183118
It's like putting people with polio in a (((current year))) show, it's a problem that doesn't exist anymore
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>>218182406
Didn't Star Trek Online do that plot?
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>>218183118
desu people in wheelchairs in D&D are not THAT absurd, they just wouldn't be adventurers, nor would they be exploring any catacombs. Healing spells can be rare/expensive (much like modern medical treatments), but to pretend you can "adventure" in a wheelchair is just dense as fuck, and people who advocate for that can be clearly labeled as retards
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>>218182497
zoomer… the amount of pussy-hounding done between kirk, picard and riker…
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>>218183211
>desu people in wheelchairs in D&D are not THAT absurd
Depending on how high magic your D&D setting is, something like Greyhawk or Dragonlance, it would be fine, but Forgotten Realms or Planescape, it really wouldn't
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>>218183211
The devs specifically make the combat wheelchair so cheap to purchase that every 1st level character can have one, but it's so overpowered that literally every adventurer would be using one, regardless of whether or not they could walk.
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>>218183209
Yeah, an Iconian killed the last one
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>>218183211
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>>218182406
You're wondering who we are; why we have done this; how it has come that I stand before you - the image of a white person from so long ago... ..Remember us...
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>>218182352
This will never not be funny
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>>218181990
All of nu trek was basically "how can we make Star Trek appeal to edgy kids and only them?
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>>218181990
Crap story-telling sold as "socially progressive" is still crap story-telling. Star Trek has always been progressive, but they always remembered that the story-telling came first, and wasn't written around diversity checkboxes.

Plus the new starfleet emblems and uniforms look like shit.
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>>218182802
Because the leftists/women who infiltrated the media company seethe at traditionally-attractive people (i.e. whites). they are communist and want everyone to be equal including looks.
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>>218183378
Oh but the real kick is that those disabled "activists" would take the cure for themselves in a heartbeat, each and every one of them. See all the anti-body-shaming healthy-at-every-size fatties and Ozempic.
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>>218182535
>surely THIS will be the show to capture the elusive black female audience, and own the chuds at the same time
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it took a billion dollars of flops to get rid of him
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>>218183485
Lol, this elderly woman is such a quirk chungus!
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>>218181990
Hollywood will never stop trying to demoralize white people.
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>>218183456
The fat acceptance movement died the fastest death when ozempic became available. Also their advocates dying of heart attacks in quick succession didn't help either
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>>218183511
Paramount is run by fucking morons. It's crazy to me that people sincerely want them to end up with WB catalog instead of Netflix, they are not better.
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>>218183211
actually DnD made mandatory that in all official modules all dungeons must be ready accesible for handicapped people
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>>218183611
Is it incompetence or they want to push their ideology this badly? The leftist virus is in the host.
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>>218183485
whats with all the cgi airbrushing on her face? is she an alien? couldn't have done that with actual props?
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>>218182830
>>218183118
tbf they not only fixed Geordi's eyesight they made it infinitely better. That one chick in DS9 who needed specialized gravity even got accommodations despite her biology being incompatible with DS9 station physics. There's literally no reason why they couldn't equip this man with an exosuit that had rocketboots and port and starboard photo torpedo bays
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>>218183644
In Paramount's case I think it is actual incompetence.
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>>218183666
We're well past incompetence. I fully believe kuckman is just malicous and hatefull
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>>218181990
Sheeeeeeeeeeeit
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>>218182352
King
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>>218182382
Zoomers hatred of Jews is one of their few redeeming traits
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>>218182352
>set phasers to rette
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>>218181990
>Starfleet Academy gets 2 seasons
>meanwhile chuds are unable to create anything
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>>218183180
Or the fucking bubonic plague

Imagine some bland shit milquetoast sitcom, with something like
>oh Billy, Jimmy's mom called, he won't be able to play today, he has the bubonic plague
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>>218183796
No one cares poojeet. They finally made a star trek as ugly and retarded as you and nobody likes it
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>>218181990
I sooo want to know how much money they pissed away letting one fucktard ruin their most beloved property with the biggest fanbase. How bad was the damage of letting one blind retard swinging an axe around in the pen with the golden goose? …and giving him 5 sessions in a row to fully hack it to pieces…
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>>218183644
incompetence lead to them hiring people that want to push ideology instead of good stories.
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>>218181990
hey now, its not all the right girls fault, this is also mia goths fault for not being a good star trek character and thinking that no having eye brows makes you an alien
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>>218183810
That sounds like a bit from Married with Children
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>>218183883
Was thinking some amalgamation of that, the Paul Newman show, and leave it to Beaver
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>>218183766
As a jew, I don’t take issue with that. If you think you hate jews, you should hear an average discussion around our dinner tables.
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>>218183651
His entire thesis sounds gay, stupid, and misses the entire point of cosmic horror
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>>218181990
>racism won
same as it ever was
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>>218183915
yeah its an extrmeely midwit take from someone who only understands the genre from 21st century films
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>>218183651
>pic
There's a 0% chance that this guy doesn't rape kids.
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>>218183828
yeah. it's almost certainly office politics. people get jobs by who they know and are loyal to etc. so you end up with people in positions of leadership who got there based on their ability to get themselves into positions of leadership

this is one of the reasons why market competition is good. at least hypothetically. when one organization gets this type of cancer, their product should decline and they should be out-competed by competitors whose product isn't as cancerous.

for some reason this isn't happening though
my take on that is that the cancer isn't actually with specific institutions, but with the greater culture. all the people who get hired into these places are sourced from the same places, which have become run by office politics. so instead of one institution becoming cancerously incompetent, it's all of them.

people need to start looking at university degrees as something negative instead of something positive. at least for elite universities.
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>>218183948
there needs to be an industry crash so these people go away.
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>>218182435
>these puritans are backlashing against us trying to insert janky awkward gay sex scenes in terrible movies to have an easy clapback when someone points out the movie sucks
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>>218183386
I don't care it's a black woman playing one, my point is this species literally died off billions of years before any other sentient lifeforms appeared in the galaxy.
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>>218183810
technically y. pestis is still around it's just a bitch minor leaguer in a world with antibiotics
because killing slowly/unreliably even without them is how it spread so well before
it is also the plague of justinian and an early agricultural unnamed plague before that btw, they found out
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>>218184014
>ah yes, working in a carbon mine
>my DREAM JOB
>if only SEX CHANGE SURGERY didn't make my SUPSERSTITIOUS co-workers so BIGOTED towards me
thanks man, I haven't laughed this hard in a few days
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>>218181990
I hope Kurtzman gets a horrible disease. Not renewing his contract isn't even close to enough.
It's one thing to make 1 bad star trek show, but fucking 5? IN A ROW? EACH MORE INSULTING THAN THE LAST?
Fuck him. I still have no hope of thgere ever being a return to form for trek. All I can hope for is a sad pathetic funeral for Kurtzman
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>>218183907
Your dinner table will be put to shame our ovens lipski. Flee to israel now if you can afford it
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>>218183485
Isn't grounding (or belief in barefoot has health benefits from being in electrical contact with the Earth) considered one of those right wing RFK Jr Nazi pseudo health ideas???
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>>218183485
>The only person to act like someone from Star Trek in this entire rebooted franchise is the guy telling her she needs to wear her shoes because it's required
>Instead our focus is this immature adult who somehow got through the ranks despite being this hippy dippy "I don't care for the rules" type which would never work in Star Fleet who is by all accounts a military organization despite how much they say they aren't
Holy fuck, this franchise is so gone
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>>218184021
Where did I say anything about it only being about gay media? Oh right I didn't. Stop making up scenarios in your head. It's a broad detesting of seeing any level of intimacy or nudity.
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>>218182382
Zoomers aren't consuming any of this.
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>>218184175
Get off your soapbox you ignorant faggot.
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>>218183180
>it's a problem that doesn't exist anymore
Give it a decade. Polio is coming back.
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I keep hearing that Paramount is some chud company but then I see shit like what they’ve done to Star Trek and I really question that
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>>218183907
I guarantee the "hate" you have isn't genuine criticism of the jewish people and just retarded nitpicking about people being bad jews or whatever
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>>218184108
It's a pretty widespread pseudoscientific belief.
Left-wing women reading their horoscopes next to their salt lamp believe it, too.
That's likely, both, the audience they're trying to reach and the people in the writers room.

But, yes.
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>>218184091
What I don't fucking understand is towards the end of his contract you would think he would think "shit my contract is almost over let me try and make something fans like so I can get renewed" but not he churns out the worst show he has ever created. This is almost vindictive at this point. No one gets fired or punished for this yet supposedly legally the CEO has an obligation to maximize revenue
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>>218182013
They look zesty
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>>218181990
What the fuck is that thing
Do Americans really
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>>218183211
>too poor to pay healers
>too rad to stay at home
What a life
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>>218184249
The change in management only happened in August 2025 and so far their main priorities have been getting rid of Stephen Colbert and basically everyone currently working at CBS News

Aside from that, the new guys are right-wing Israelis, which aren't actually right-wingers. But hey, I'm not Nick Fuentes, so I'll enjoy the silver lining that they make trannies seethe just as much.
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>>218184349
My headcannon is Kurtzman had some serious dirt on some big wigs at paramount and thats how he lasted so long. I think after this long he's probably just over it and doesnt care for a renewal.
Why not make the most heinous piece of insulting shit you can on the way out the door? Especially if you loath star trek as much as Kurtzman clearly fucking does.
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>>218183485
If she was hot this scene would be kino
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>>218184477
Someone here once said when the last CEO was ousted as a big final fuck you he gave Kurtzman an obscenely long contract. I have no idea if that is true or not though
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>>218183485
OMG SHES SO FUCKING COOL AND FREE AND AN EPIC HIPPY OMG SHES JUST LIKE ME
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>>218182676
im not a startrek fan but every screenshot that i saw about that academy it's a downy looking woman.
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>>218184518
Probably, Les Moonves hated Star Trek and genre fiction as a whole, there's a reason CBS under him was mainly cop shows, because he loved that shit.

Supergirl in 2015 was the odd outlier but even getting that past a pilot was said to be a struggle, it only made it to series because he wanted to prove it'd die after a single season.
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>>218182544
He looks like that scared buck from Tariq's film.
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>>218183824
There's two concrete numbers for STD anyway
>Seasons 1 and 2 cost a combined $257 million
>the series average budget was $8 million to $8.5 million per episode

So all in they almost certainly spent half a billion dollars just for this
Not counting Picard, Short Treks, Lower Decks, Section 31, etc., just Michael Burnham's Adventures

It ran so fucking long too. Do you know that STD was on the air exactly as long as TNG? In spite of having one-third as many episodes.
Well, at least we have all of those iconic, universally memorable Captain Burnham quotes and storylines, such as... uhh...
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>>218183931
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>>218184647
Her crying is supposed to be impactful because it just is
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>>218184648
>when massa pulls out the BWC
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>>218182650
So they can travel light years through space but don't have the technology to fix this fucking dudes legs?
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>>218184647
Is that the show that has the girl boss monologue?
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>>218183485
she is by far the worst part of the show. everybody else could be black, disabled, or indian, and she still would be.
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>>218184109
Writers can’t write anything but weird little self inserts anymore.
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>>218181990
Shut the fuck up JDA
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>>218182352
>oh shit, anon can't be serious!
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>>218182352
Why do people with autism like to wear medallions so much?
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>>218185015
that's suppose to be a chick
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>>218182218
don't even need early life sections
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>>218182218
The women are the problem. It’s not even a Jewish thing.
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>>218182558
It's not that we're against it. We're just tired of everything being SEX SEX SEX ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT SEX SEX SEX EVERYONE IS HAVING SEEEEEX all day every day. It's trashy, it's annoying, and it's gotta go. More than just media, the world has become oversaturated with pornographic everything.
>But it's artistic!
>But it's shocking!
>But sex is all I think about!
Take your generation's ideas that spawned trash like Big Mouth and Rangs and fuck outta here.
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>>218184647
>at least we have all of those iconic, universally memorable Captain Burnham quotes and storylines, such as... uhh...

Unironically the episode about cyborg chick in your picture I remember, and it was my favorite episode and the one that made stop watching Discovery. it was like they finally stopped focusing Burnham and mirror earth shit and it felt like they were finally expanding on other crew members besides the ones there to make Burnham look good or give her a reason to be heroic. But the majority of the episode was through her POV and you learned about her past and friends and that she had to daily choose the memories she kept because of the limits of her cybernetic brain. It felt like such a classic Star Trek episode where they're building out the tech and the crew and how they relate and work together...then she dies, she sacrifices herself for some reason. Same fucking episode. they introduce her build her character then just off her. That bullshit trope I probably should have seen coming if I wasn't so excited to get an episode that wasn't Burnham wank or trash Klingons, or Starfleets not as wholesome as you think.... I just stopped watching. Up until then I had this thought that They were just fuck ups. People at the top just hired the wrong people or made stupid mandates to try and attract a larger audience but this episode was the slap in the face to make me realize they could easily write good episodes if they wanted to, they could make relatable, kind hearted characters if they wanted to, that they could come up with interesting sci-fi morality or moral quandries if they wanted to. THEY JUST CHOOSE NOT TO.

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>>218184569
>she's dus like meee
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I don't like when people make exaggerated shitposts because they dilute the stuff that actually happens

For instance, the first female Jem'Hadar is in a lesbian relationship with Tig Notaro. If I was a shitposter making that up, it'd be very low effort and heavyhanded, wouldn't it?
I hope before the show ends they go full Blue is the Warmest Color on each other. Or at least play sloppy tonsil hockey on the bridge.
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>>218181990
genuine question, is she retarded?
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>>218185130
Sure thing Ching Chong.
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>>218185130
The only time I ever saw media be "oh yeah this got sex and nudity" was Game of Thrones because they wanted to get average people interested in watching a fantasy series. Any other time sex is main thing is always in young adult dramas. Maybe stop watching shit like Euphoria.
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>>218185205
the entire second half of Game of Thrones has zero sex in it, and neither does House of the Dragon or Knight of the Seven Kingdoms
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>>218185168
If they could they would have the bridge be a gay ass orgy.
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>>218184014
>Queen of Coal
>Not a film about Jennifer White
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>>218183796
It do be like that, Mr. Stancil.
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>>218183651
Well you see, on 4chan when a thread doesn't get enough responses it quickly gets pushed into the archive by more interesting topics.
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>>218181995
>Bill Gates Scholarship Recipients
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>>218185168
They've been described as the new Riker and Troi
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>>218181995
Das Raitus
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>>218185168
That entire exchange felt like something from The Orville.
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>>218181995
Din'du
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>>218181995
https://rentry.co/anything_but_niggers
take your pick
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>>218185396
They must have seen Bortus and Klyden go viral and wanted a piece of that.
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>>218181990
Fake news and wishful thinking.
https://www.cinemablend.com/interviews/star-trek-franchise-head-alex-kurtzman-update-contract-feels-future
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>>218185493
Well, we're heading into March.
In August his job ends.
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>>218184579
It isn't just Les, basic network heads will tepidly be okay with sci-fi but anything beyond that like say horror, is considered too risky because sponsors and advertisers loath the horror genre. That Once Upon a Time lasted as long as it did is nothing short of a miracle but that's all because it had the fantasy stuff take a backseat to the romance plots
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>>218184014
Wait doesn't this whole concept put everyone in an unsolvable catch-22? If you refuse to accept her because of a superstition about women you're a sexist pig, but if you have no problem with it you clearly don't see her as a real woman and so are a transphobic pig. This is actually a ballsy escalation from the wokies, I had thought they'd run out of ways to triple and quadruple down but now they're *quintupling* down by creating shows where it's literally impossible to be "good" if you're not a minority.
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>>218185226
Because they formed a fanbase that doesn't need to be hooked in with sex now. They're there for the world building shit.
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>>218185694
It doesn’t have an audience at all lol.
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>>218181990
Why are you promoting your tweets here, Jon? Shouldn't you be jerking off to that fine piece of Lucario ass?
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>>218185132
These are people who think writing science fiction is beneath them, they fucking hate sci-fi, they hate Star Trek, they'd rather be writing about queers in coffee shops going about their day to day lives.
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>>218183456
It depends. Deaf people are known to be extremely insular in their communities to the point where it's a serious problem for them if their kids aren't deaf and there are stories of parents making their kid deaf because it's so bad.
People aren't choosing the disability so much as they're choosing the community.
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>>218181995
Subhuman/nigger
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>>218181990
According to some youtubers like Tachyon Pulse they might keep him on. Threatening to get rid of him was a negotiating tactic to force him to give back a lot of control in the updated contracts if he wanted to continue.
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>>218181990
Good. That jackass openly stated that none of it had anything to do with Star Trek.
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>>218185311
Yeah except the thread was getting response and was pruned. Seems that coomer threads are the only ones allowed up today
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>>218181990
Doesn't this guy beat his wife?
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>>218182013
Is there video of this anywhere?
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>>218183485
>footwear is a requirement
>oh, but I don't wear them if I don't have to
Who writes this stuff? They don't know what "requirement" means?
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>>218182013
Someone zoom in on Jordans face and put "It's over" on it
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>>218186654
They always take such kino award ceremony stills. Always in pairs.
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kurtzman out. kennedy out. but the damage is done.
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>>218181995
She's a hologram like the doctor from Voyager. Someone actually programmed her to look like that.
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>>218186909
>Someone
Considering that she's from a burgeoning "species" of holograms, it's entirely plausible that she exists because her people clicked randomize
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>>218181990
how does "jon del arroz" actually know it won't be renewed though
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>>218185229
Bro don't remind me, what a fucking fall from grace.
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>>218183657
The woman in DS9 wasn't compatible with any gravity. Her species evolved up on a planet with very little gravity. The funny thing was Dr. Bashir found a cure/treatment to increase her bone and muscle density. She only opted to not take it because she didn't want to change the very thing that motivated her and drove her.

The idea that this cadet in SFA was unwillingly bound to a wheelchair is such fucking retarded "look we're inclusive!" bullshit.
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>>218181990
Stop shilling your shitty twitter account
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>>218186119
Deaf people will gossip and shit talk others in sign language. Right in front of their faces. They’re just as hateful and bigoted as anyone else.
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>>218183907
ewwwww Jew food is worse than prison food
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>>218181990
What's up with those anal beads?
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>>218183907
Why would I want to eat with the judgiest people on the planet? Fucking Jews don't even love their own children until they have a degree.
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>>218184014
Hold up a second...WHO THE FUCK HAS COAL MINER AS THEIR DREAM JOB!?
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>>218184014
I dated a women who was a coal miner in West Virginia. She never spoke about anything restricting her from an honest day's pay. But she was white and not from a third world shithole like Panama.
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>>218182558
It's because they don't have it so sex on screen is just icky voyeurism instead of something relatable
When I saw Oppenheimer with my ex the sex scenes were the only part she woke up for but not many zoomies are like that
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>>218188415
I...
AM STEVE
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>>218188563
lol, why were there sex scenes in Oppenheimer?
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>>218184108
up until the 2020s RFK style alternative health quackery was considered pseudoscience of the left
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>>218188585
because reverse NTR is the absolute apex of kino
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>>218184035
Well, somehow they returned.
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>>218181990
I won't believe it until they actually say outright that he's fired
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>>218188879
Well, they probably won't say it outright. They have to rehire him or not before August. If they do, he's in until 2031.
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>>218188441
Bullshit.
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>>218182650
Wasnt there an entire episode in TNG about worfe getting injured and the doctor having to do spin surgery to fix his cripple problem? Doesn't this new series also take place like hundreds of years later?
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>>218188964
Lost technology.
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>>218188415
It is from Central America.
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>>218188964
In TNG they plainly state that every aspect of biology has been “solved.” Normal (non-sci-fi induced) injuries and illnesses are easily resolved.
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>>218181990
fuck you fags for trying to ruin another show...EAT SHIT
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>>218188930
Just because you have never dated doesn't mean no one has
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>>218185672
Once Upon a Time lasted because of fat single Disney girl-women.
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>>218188964
>>218184647
>>218185132
I agree with the anon who didn't hate her episode for what it was but this bitch also breaks the setting

>was in a horrific shuttle crash that basically just left her as a smear of gore on the tarmac
>they scooped up all the brain matter they could find and jammed it in a robot body, returning her to life with some limitations (such as the aforementioned poor long-term memory for "unimportant" things, or that her very body can be hacked and commanded)
>apparently the Federation was capable of doing this a decade before Kirk and it wasn't super noteworthy
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>>218189155
why not do this to Pike
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>>218185088
It's a tag in case he gets lost.
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>>218189017
Because they ate up all the romantic drama and shipping faggotry, same reason Grey's Anatomy is still running even though last I bothered to check they abandoned the medical stuff in favor of soap opera shit
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>>218183627
>the Accessibility Ramp of Cirith Ungol
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>>218182038
Holy underrated post
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>>218181995
Wuz'Kangian
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>>218181990
lel
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People can cry about woke but the truth is that as long as the shows ARE ACTUALLY GOOD then people will watch regardless. Take The Pitt as an example. Woke as fuck but people still watch because the show itself is good. Star Trek just hasn't been good in a long time.
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>>218186119
deaf people communicate in a language that few people that aren't deaf understand
this isn't remotely true for fatties or parapalegics
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>>218189635
>but people still watc
i fucking don't
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>>218189303
Kek

>>218185130
>>218182558
Societies are always changing and there are only so many variations and viewpoints so it is natural that we see cycles of reaction and counter-reaction especially relating to attitudes on sex.

Boomers rebelled with sex culture (free love, the pill, promiscuity) and that reverberated to the point where it became ubiquitous, boring and even off-putting. People took it to its natural extreme and now others are pushing back and refusing it. Just like straight edge and anti-drinking culture and turning your back on boomer materialism and pro-immigration, anti-community, anti-family shit.

It’s not even about right or wrong just a natural back-and-forth cycle that always pushes too far and swings back in the opposite direction. I think we’re reaching the fatigue with all the pro-black tranny identity politics stuff and you can see how millennials and zoomers still eat that shit up while more younger people question and mock it.
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>>218189793
You are in the minority. All I am saying is that Star Trek's situation is more than simply 'woke bad'.
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>>218189977
If that was the case than Millennials should have rebelled against the Boomers sex, drugs and rock'n'roll but instead they and Gen X went further with it. Even Zoomers are more gender fluid than previous generations so it's really weird.
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>>218188996
This show was ruined the minute they put pen to paper. …if they even did that. Fucking thing is like a script written by three punch-up advisors, exactly none of which belong on a Star Trek script.
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>>218181990
Nu Trek has always been another part of the recurring need by progressive "creatives" to "correct" all media of the past because the past is bad, problematic, and wrong. Why are they so obsessed with this? White Guilt, mainly, if not the major component of it.
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>>218188023
>has heard of jewish parents being so demanding of intelligence and accomplishment in their kids it makes doctors and lawyers out of half of them and lands the other half in therapy for the rest of their lives
>doesnt know what that has to do with having 3hr debates over dinner about the scientific, ethical and legal implications of every single thing that could ever exist
>doesnt know why all the doctors and scientists and lawyers he thinks of as white are jews, assumes it must be conspiracy

We demand excellence and achievement of our kids. You guys aren't even teaching your kids to fucking read. It’s been 1700 years since you based your ONE holy book on ours, which we dont even consider relevant anymore, and investment of practically all our wealth in building up your societies. I mean get your shit together, really.
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>>218191618
holy fuck a talking lampshade
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>>218187081
omg i hadn't seen her in years.... she ruined herself with fake boobs...
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>>218182352
>Worf: Nigger? What is a "nigger"?
>Jake: *sniff* I said we'll always be niggas.
>Guinan: LOL
>La Forge: Yes, I am a nigger! Yes, I have a small penis despite that! Yes, I can't have sex! I didn't ask to be born!
>Sisko: pic related
>Also Mayweather is there: Did someone say FREIGHTER?
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>>218191873
>Worf: Nigger? What is a "nigger"?
>It's like a p'takh
>*MURDEROUS BELLOWING*
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>>218182027
>>218182125
>>218181990
Its fucking insane how in just once decade they imploded every single sci fi franchise ever.
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>>218191412
No. Like Lucas you fucked it up to the point that no one wanted it anymore and when someone else came along to bring it back it sucked.
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>>218183118
>>218182830
I actually can give you guys a real serious answer on why it's like that. The reason why a fictional piece can have such cognitive dissonances and the reason why things like being disabled are allowed to be embedded even with the price of breaking the immersion or creating a world building hole is because in progressive world-view absolutely everything is derived from a moral superiority. The very core idea behind progressive ideology is perceiving the world as a dichotomy of a victim and an oppressor. Very literally. Absolutely everything in the world is either a victim or an oppressor and the human purpose is to protect and serve the victim because it is a morally-right thing to do, hence you always hear things like "decent human being" or "empathy". It is OK to make a disabled character in a world where their disability can fixed because it serves a moral purpose of virtue signaling to people with disabilities. It is NOT OK to make no disabled people in such a fictional world, because it could be interpreted as a negative portrayal of disabled people - if all people with disabilities were healed/fixed, it means there's something wrong with being disabled (because it needs "fixing") and since being disabled is being a victim, saying that there's something wrong with the victim is morally bad, and therefore, shouldn't be done. So the continuity of the fiction is sacrificed for virtue signaling. You could say that this logic is completely retarded and won't survive even slight analysis and you'll be completely right. It's also why cultural appropriation is bad, but making a black person play Nordic god is good:
>black person can't play a Nordic god because of their race
>if black person can't do something because of their race it's racism because black people are victims
>therefore, black person should play a Nordic god
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>>218189155
>but this bitch also breaks the setting
Yea, but so did the Klingons and the mycelium drive, and the discovery of the mirror universe. There's like a few alien species never seen before or since (but to be fair I'd say the same thing about enterprise).
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>>218188697
his dick is looong to reach her in that position
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>>218183211
wheelchairs are actually a sign of wealth in old times, its a device made for aristocrats who dont have to work, even going by your premise, wheelchairs wouldn't exist and at most, you'd have poor people with crutches and stumps
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>>218183485
This happens because all the writers are on discord and twitter where they meet other "creative" people who are accustomed to saying batshit nonsense and everyone's just too polite to push back because they're in some online melting pot full of the mentally ill to begin with so it just becomes normalised over time until one of them gets hired to make some big media production and out shits a scene like this where their retarded non-experiences are written in to an environment where it would never fly.
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>>218185168
The funniest part is that it's easy to tell that's a black actress
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>>218193894
>normie messiah complex phase
fuck off new fag back to reddur with you. the browns here dont give a shit your appealing to them.
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>>218181990
Stomedy?
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>>218183209
Yeah, but it was in a pod or something.
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>>218182013
>courtesy: BBC
what a beautiful touch
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>>218182830
You don't understand. There's nothing to fix. That person's identity is not being able to walk.
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>>218183211
The real question is why would you want to play that way when you can literally be anyone.
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>>218185493
Just give star trek to Seth McFarlane he would treat it with much more respect and reverence
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>>218188415
autistic boys
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>>218184108
I've personally always saw it as more of a psychological grounding more than an electrical grounding.
It just feels good to be bare foot on the grass and feel earth under your bare feet.
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>>218182830
holly hunter wears kindergarten teacher style glasses
why would anyone need glasses in Star Trek?
>>218183907
now, if only you all would stop sticking up for the worst of each other in public, you might get somewhere
>>218185128
it can be both
>>218185168
i'd rather have every character be some black woman in shitty alien makeup, in every tv show, than to ever see tig notaro again
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>>218194171
Why do people do pacifist runs, atheist runs, vegetarian runs, armorless runs, magicless runs, any sort of limited run? Sometimes it's fun to see how far you can get with a self-imposed limit.

So why not a run where you can't run?
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>>218187134
She elected to not get fixed by Bashir because she could never return to her low gravity home world.
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>>218194202
>why would anyone need glasses in Star Trek?
Kirk needs glasses.

Now the obvious answer is that medical science has advanced 900 years since Kirk needed glasses, so wearing glasses is a choice for her rather than a necessity. But like, dang, some of you people are trying way too hard to hate this show. It's overall a shitty show with shitty writing, but not every single aspect of it is worth getting upset over.
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>>218183456
>implying
Want to know a secret? Most disabled activists who use manual chairs are ambulatory. They just use the chair as a prop to reinforce their status. A lot of people who aren't amputees and use manual chairs generally are ambulatory because people who are true quads typically lack the core or glute control to be able to use a push chair without being strapped to the back, but when you're strapped you're losing out on a huge amount of power to push and ability to maneuver to deal with curbs and stairs. Most people who qualify for insurance assistance for manual chairs also qualify for power chairs and the coverage for power chairs is way way better, usually resulting in nothing being paid out of pocket. Manual wheelchairs are for cripple sports and for image most of the time, even for those who actually need them.
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>>218194261
>Kirk needs glasses
that is also retarded
the real answer is that they want her to have the style of their cool art teacher whom they confided in about being gay in high school
same reason she puts her feet up in the captains chair and reads a book like a cat lady
it doesnt require being upset to shit on a trash show on /tv/, anon
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>>218194237
Oh yeah that was it. I honestly don't understand that part. If she was capable of enduring higher gravity post-treatment, why couldn't she go to a low gravity environment? Are the implications that nobody else in Starfleet or the Federation can travel to her planet? How did they manage first contact? Whatever, I suppose it was a bit of a throwaway episode anyway.
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>>218182650
You heard of the game Where's Waldo, well there's a new game in town. Where's the Wheelchair?
Seriously why every thing need a person in a wheelchair.
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>>218183948
The reason they're still standing is because people are paying to use the streaming platforms for old legacy stuff and that income is subsidising the waste of space that new Star Trek and other shows are.
So on paper they are still profitable even if they're losing money on pointless TV.
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>>218188415
Some upper-middle-class bourgeois white woman who has never had to work a day in her life.
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>>218182313
And I will shitpost about it for 2 weeks then forget it forever
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>>218194298
>>218194261
>>218194202
Kirk's glasses are an actual plot point - he's doing a bitchy little ego thing because McCoy brings up that he can easily treat him for "age-related vision degeneration"
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>>218184014
You know what liberals would love, a show romanticising the mining of non renewable energy
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>>218183118
it's completely ignoring that this has to be the most insulting shit to people in wheelchairs since I can not fucking imagine that someone in a wheelchair's fantasy self insert escapism would INCLUDE THEM IN THE FUCKING WHEELCHAIR
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>>218194326
She could go back, she just wouldn't be able to navigate the environment as efficiently as she used to. She would be home, but she wouldn't feel like she's at home.

You wear shoes outside to navigate that environment, and you take your shoes off when you get home. Imagine if you got special shoes that made you even better at navigating the outside world, but with a catch that you could never take your shoes off, not even at home. You would have to spend the rest of your life wearing shoes. Is it worth it to forever change how you feel at home?
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>>218184014
Holy shit its real
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>>218194414
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_Coal

Starring Pedro Pascal's male sister
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>>218194437
>Starring Pedro Pascal's male sister
the odd thing was people denied this
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>>218184014
>>218194437
>can't pass as the opposite gender
>refuse to play their actual gender despite being ACTORS
>pigeonholed into playing trannies
>and they have to play the kind they actually are since it's "bigotry" to cast an ftm as a mtf
when you typecast yourself into irrelevancy
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>>218183485
It looks like a parody. If the guy who told her to wear shoes was the MC, like he was a Star Fleet officer from Picard's time, he was in hibernation for centuries in a lost escape pod, and he comes back to life and discovers that Star Fleet has become completely lax, if the series was about him trying to rebuild, it I could watch it.
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>>218194437
>male sister
In spanish they call that hermano
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>>218194512
god damnit carlos
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>>218184014
Who the fuck of being a coal miner ?
This shit destroyed thousand of lifes where I live
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>>218181990
It's not racism, just bad writing. I didn't tune out STD because the main character was a black woman, I tuned out STD because the main character was Spock's long lost adopted sister, which is fucking stupid.
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>>218194327
Jesus, we live in Burger King Kid's Club world.
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>>218194539
I don't get how you could get covered in black dust like this every day and NOT think about having breathed it in, think it was all fine
these guys weren't slaves they're just hubristic morons since the jobs paid relatively well
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>>218181990
>Racism won

What a load of horseshit. A lot of Treks best characters are black. Uhura, Worf, LaForge, Sisko, Tuvok, (not Guinan)
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I bet all of them would have thought of anyone that tried to wear some effective mask as a pussy, too
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I can't be racist, my favorite Trek Captain is unironically Sisko
Siskobros, where we at?
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>>218194544
>the main character was Spock's long lost adopted sister
I'm so glad I skipped all of that, what a fucking mess of that whole series they've made
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>>218194617
And let's hear it for Jake, the child who had the courage to say "I don't want to join Starfleet and be your special little good boy".
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>>218194539
>literally alive because of coal mining
>thinks coal mining is bad
your parents should abort you tonight
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>>218194645
>Siskobros, where we at?
Keeping a watch on that new Voyager game and praying for a DS9 game next.
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>>218182013
Why is MBJ doing the speed face
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>>218194684
>that new Voyager game
it seems alright, played it for like an hour
very selective voiceovers
the ship cutaway thing is neat
seems like it'll be more cattle chuting than I'd prefer but idk didn't make it very far in yet at all
with updates and mods it could be very good
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>>218194544
>Spock's long lost adopted sister
Which always rubbed me the wrong way, it feels like something out of a fanfiction or a bad OC that's a self insert who wants to fuck Kirk/Spock/McCoy/Sulu/all of the above

It'd be one thing if she was a protege of Sarek who she looked up to like a father figure, one who knew of Spock but contact was fairly limited/just didn't interact much.
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>>218194763
the wokening seems to ruin all of these by insisting on going back over the shit everyone loved and "fixing it", somehow, they couldn't do it with star wars so they just marginalized what anyone loved so much it killed it
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Bring back the syndication model where profit was determined by quality. Every episode had to win over people flipping through the channels. Get rid of diversity quotas. Boo hoo too many white dude in the writers room. That’s how we got all the best Star Trek episodes before.
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>>218194763
They needed a connection to an iconic Trek character as bad as possible and it'd be kind of predictable and maybe weird, if she was one of Kirk's many sexual conquests
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>>218182650
Traitor
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>>218183485
0 military bearing. Imagine this scene but IRL in the navy or something
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>>218185088
I think he bites down on that when he has the urge to yell at niggers
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>>218194662
Hey, now, Benjamin himself wasn't exactly till death us do part on the whole Starfleet thing either. Post-war Sisko would have been chilling on Bajor, not sat behind an Admiral's desk. But bluebeard had other plans because he thought he was making Lord of the Rings and now you have fucking Starfleet Academy saying that Sisko never came back from the Celestial Temple, directly against the wishes of Avery Brooks. Happy Black History Month indeed, Mr. Kurtzman.
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>>218182650
Devil's advocate
Maybe there are people who are simply afraid of the surgery needed to fix them. Like people who are afraid to use transporters.
And for some reason Starfleet has decided to accommodate them even though walking is a job requirement for a Starfleet officer.
Just like transporting is a job requirement, but they'll let you take a shuttle unless it's really necessary.

Also Cetacean Ops. Starfleet is wacky.
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>>218194401
>Is it worth it to forever change how you feel at home?
I guess it's a decent philosophical question, but given the context, I'm not sure I would trade freedom and movement among the thousands of other worlds, starships, and stations just to be able to efficiently function at home. I'm assuming she (like most) joined Starfleet to explore and go beyond her home, why handicap (heh) that?
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>>218195065
I am appalled at the idea of cetacean ops but mostly because it wasn't in a good show
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>>218195065
>>218195114
>Cetacean Ops
Oddly enough i don't find this that outlandish lol. They did the aquatic species with the Xindi plot in Enterprise. The idea of space faring aquatic beings is kino.
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>>218195114
It was an easter egg in TNG that became canon in Nu Trek.

>The term "Cetacean Ops" was first heard in the "background chatter" during "Yesterday's Enterprise". The subtitles for the episode on streaming services – including both Netflix and Amazon – as well as the TNG Season 3 Blu-ray release, give the facility's name as "station Ops."

>According to the 1996 reference book Star Trek: The Next Generation USS Enterprise NCC-1701-D Blueprints, the cetacean ops facilities, including a cetacean navigation lab and four cetacean lifeboats, were located on Deck 13, with the navigation labs extending into Deck 14 as well. [2] Conceptual artwork at Andrew Probert's website shows that the facility may have been featured in the original version of Star Trek Online.

>According to the Star Trek: The Next Generation Technical Manual, the ship's dolphins work in navigation and are overseen by two whales of species Orcinus orca takayai, or Takaya's Whales. This references the 1988 anime OVA Gunbuster, where the starship Exelion uses dolphins for navigation due to their natural familiarity with moving in three dimensions; as well as the name of that series' protagonist, Noriko Takaya.
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>>218182373
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
There, happy?
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>>218195145
>i don't find this that outlandish lol.
I mean they turned a klingon warbird into an aquarium, could easily see some exchange officer(s) in portable tanks at least
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>>218195176
>the whole run of TNG there's a cetation ops in the ship that's never shown
did I read that right
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I didn't read the thread but I did see the nerdrotic video on this show and in that vid there's some chick saying how the show was written to bring in a new audience especially a new young audience. If that was the plan then why did they write such cringy characters and fill the show with LGHDTV+ propaganda?

Where are all the cool and interesting characters that would bring in viewers?
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>>218195235
*cetacean
stop making me look stupid, me
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>>218182013
>Peculiar nig having flashback to the plantation
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>>218189246
s-shut up incel that's why
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>>218194261
Its explained in 3 that Kirk has a rare allergy to the medication they use to fix eyes (Retnox V), so he has no other option.
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>>218194327
>Seriously why every thing need a person in a wheelchair.
my daughter is 7 and in a wheelchair after a car accident. she gets so happy and excited when a character doing cool things is in a wheelchair. i say god bless
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>>218181990
Nice. I knew all the review bombing would eventually work. Won't stop me shitting all over those final episodes though. I might even watch one of them for a change.
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>>218195370
you think people would really do that, just, like, go on the internet and lie
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>>218195390
would have included this one had it existed >>218195388
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>>218183485
lol this is just like me, i'm a yummy mummy in my late 30's who lives with cats. i feel represented, thank you Alex!
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>>218195390
>you think people would really do that, just, like, go on the internet and lie
got me, here collecting upvotes
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I've never understood why people have wanted a starfleet academy show for years.
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YOU ARE ALL LIARS
YOU RUIN EVERYTHING
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>>218195448
because they didn't expect it to suck
especially didn't expect it to suck in this forced "quirky" way that's trying to appeal to new audiences by doing things intentionally opposite to anything the existing audience wants
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>>218182038
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>>218182027
>there are 4, possibly 5 depending on who you ask good series and multiple movies to rewatch whenever you want
How much more do you need. It's okay for things to end.
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>>218195534
>It's okay for things to end.
not when they're "revenue streams"
of course by that logic you'd think they'd pay more mind to actually making them successful based on what worked before
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>>218181990
I didn't see any official statements from Paramount. You're jumping the gun.
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>>218195978
That's Jon Del Arroz for you.
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>>218195978
It's worthless clickbait from the "anti-woke" tards. It was given two seasons, the second season just finished filming. Nothing was cancelled.
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>>218184014
>Wow she is so good at this job!
>Yeah I guess WOMEN really can do as good at a physical job as MEN
Yeah about that...
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>>218195247
Because it's people who don't know shit about the youth pretending they do.
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>>218182352
Somebody get this man a Sonichu medallion.
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>>218181990
Hey! That hairstyle is a Gorlack hairstyle! Bitch is culturally appropriating Gorlack hair! That is no different than rape!
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>>218182013
>Michael B Jordan doing the ishowspeed meme
kek
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>>218196422
There are absolutely no Star Trek projects being filmed right now, for the first time since 2015

The slop machine has abruptly ground to a halt
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>>218198355
Isn't that more because Secret Hideout's contract is (finally) running out? The Kurtzman slop has finally run out, true, but will the next thing actually be good?
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>hardcore political shitflinging for 310 posts
>immediately ceases at bump limit
Really makes you think.
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>>218198581
It's a shitterpost thread anon. What exactly did you think was going to happen?



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