The second half is the biggest pleb filter in history
>so butthurt in the other thread he made a thread about it lol
>>218186187Just admit you’re a pleb
>>218186159The problem is that the first half is unforgettable, one of the finest hours in cinema history and it's followed up by soldiers just wandering around in the second half. It's tonal whiplash, an inherent flaw.
>>218186226Pleb. Maybe stick to tiktok
>>218186159it's objectively bad on your first watch, I liked it on my second and third.
>>218186187OP BTFO
Kubrick’s bizarre refusal to ever leave England objectively hurt the latter half of his career. The production teams were forced to work around having to use the surrounding London area locations no matter what the setting of the film was.
>>218186159Lowpass filter though.
>>218186226Agreed. Maybe this is just my autism talking, but the scenes that are supposed to look like a battlefield in Vietnam are not convincing. Kubrick is such a detailed perfectionist about everything else yet I feel like he does a poor job selling cold, gray England exterior shots as Vietnam. His never working outside the UK quirk is tiresome.
The fist half is so good and watchable it makes you think if Kubrick could have just made fun pleb friendly his entire career
>>218186226This. The second half isn't bad in itself but it can't help but seem terrible and underwhelming compared to the mind blowing kino of the first half.
>>218186226Thats literally the point though? The explosive exciting beginnings of war followed by the haze and confusion of prolonged engagement? Everything in the second half is basically the shellshock and processing of it
I hate /tv/, there’s not one kinoseaur in this whole board. There’s something basically wrong with that
I hate them singing the mickey mouse song at the endIt feels very proto-reddit
>>218186568Neither you or OP have actually explained why you consider the second half of FMJ to be a 'pleb filter'.
RIP HandjobTough breakHe was Section 8, just waiting for his paperwork to clear division
it's kinda too on the nose though with the whole Jung dualism thing when they drive the point with Joker telling the Officer about his hat.1st and 2nd half are supposed to be their two selves or wtvr. Animal Mother is the "reborn" Private Pile and the other ones I can't remember I'm sleepy
>>218186607Yeah that’s the point, Americans are plebbit coded
>>218186548No, you can't have a reasonable take with around these fucking broccoli headed faggots.
>>218186688Where are you from?
>>218186715Vietnam
A lot of anons in this thread talk the talk but do they walk the walk?
>>218186724Too cowardly to answer honestly as usual. This is why your kind fears flags being added to all boards. You know you’ll be unfairly discriminated against based on something you can’t control. Sweet, sweet irony.
>>218186159>>218186619the second half was made by an assistant director who joined late on into the project. he wasn't even given a script, and so just made a generic vietnam film with a couple of shooty scenes.kubrick had left the project after a disagreement with the catering company over the quality of the custard tarts.
These are great days we're living, bros. We are jolly green giants
>>218186226the first half is what normies think the military is, the second half is what it actually is
>>218187327The second half is blatantly filmed nowhere near anywhere that resembles Vietnam, much like Canada doubling for American cities always sticks out like a sore thumb.
>>218187374Ok and?
>>218187449And that’s why people don’t like the second half as much. There’s no mystery here.
>>218187374looks like Hue to me.
>>218187477No it doesn’t. Kubrick should’ve been shamed way more for his autistic refusal to leave London.
>>218187466>>218187374Second half looks like an urban assault, which Vietnam had a bunch of, and few if any of the soldiers and marines had any training for. It seems most people actually don't like the second half because the first half is rapid fire, with a lot of humor and mean words, while the second half is chaotic without the classic expectation of some heroic stand or action to save the day like John Wayne killing japs in Iwo Jima.So yeah, like anon said - it's what military actually is and normies can't handle it
>>218187497Yeah....it does
>>218187477>3 anemic palm trees>here's your vietnamese jungle brohe should have realized the jungle parts would be unfilmable in europe
>>218187497https://www.google.com/search?q=hue+city+combatHere ya go dude, it does indeed look like Hue city, which is what they are portraying.
>>218187539Blah blah blah. They were forced to do it that way because Kubrick was a weirdo and refused to film anywhere but England. If you won’t do that, don’t make a fucking Vietnam was movie.
the only part I don't like is when they are talking to the news crew, it's too on the nose
>>218187596Why do you keep saying 'hue'? Isn’t that a Brazilian thing? How does that relate to Vietnam?
>>218187568wait are you upset the CITY OF HUE doesn't have enough jungle for you?
>>218187597So you are upset your lack of understanding on the actual warfare of Vietnam, urban battles, cities, suburbs, and civilization that existed there, jars with your idea that they are in some jungle the whole fucking time?Are you a retard, or is your knowledge of The Vietnam war solely from Forrest Gump?
>>218187640>oh boy, so glad they finally depicted urban Vietnam! Said no one ever. Kino jungle settings or GTFO
>>218187539>it's what military actually is and normies can't handle itI couldn’t care less about that, it doesn’t make for a particularly engaging film. FMJ would be considered one of Kubrick’s weaker entries if R Lee Ermey hadn’t hard carried the first half.
>>218187672Ah, so you got filtered for the reasons pointed out by >>218187539>>218187327Go watch some John Wayne movies if you want your hollywood warfare.
>>218187696filtered!
>>218187697>y-you just don’t appreciate the technical aspects and realism! No, I rightfully don’t, because it fucking sucks and it’s boring looking.
>>218187640This retard is upset that a film about what war does to humans isn't enough like his little green army men and videogames. Nobody on /tv/ has any interest in television or film. Arguing with these retards is pointless. I think you should go outside for a walk or something similarly constructive.
>>218187615you can see lush vegetation bordering the roads >>218187596
>>218187715
>>218187755If you want /his/ accuracy, watch a documentary, not a Hollywood movie. You’re just making excuses for Kubrick here.
>>218187615All the vietnam scenes looks as though it was filmed somewhere cold and overcast like london. nothing about it looks right. it was a bad choice to film it in uk.it's not as horrible as grandpa deniro in the irishman but it's a flub nonetheless.
>>218187565Looks absolutely nothing like >>218187477
>>218186159When I was much younger, I liked the first half more. Not that I'm older, I like the second half more.
>>218186159>filter*filLerftfu
One of the best movies ever made about the Vietnam war, hands down
>>218187985What's the worst?
>>218186816Posting on /tv/ with anonymity
>>218188030Probably We Were Soldiers from 2002. It adds absolutely nothing new to the Vietnam War movie.
>>218187985What about The Boys From Company C?
the first half is so boring i couldn’t get to the 2nd. kubrick does not get dialogue unless it has a murderous undertone.
>>218188133Doubtless, you would have preferred moralizing over racial equity and social justice in the USMC boot camps?
>>218188030Idk, I haven't seen all of them
>>218188124I need to watch this
>>218188133>kubrick does not get dialogue
>>218188565it's more sloppy than FMJ, but I feel like The Boys From Company C is genuinely more subversive in the end. FMJ feels like a loose remake of it in its stucture.
>>218187711That’s all you’ve got, huh? Ok.
>>218186159Zoomers and their constant contrarian faggotry need to die horrifically.
>>218188665I'll give it a go
>>218188735>YOU CAN’T HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS THAN ME!!! I AM RIGHT!!!!
>>218188713Yeah, I am not the one who didn't get a good movie.
>>218188133Just how soft a bitch are you?
The movie is just bad overall. Two hours of Kubrick beating the viewer over the head with "WAR IS LE BAD" and "COMMUNISM GOOD"
>>218186159>COME ON, COME ON, COME ON
>>218187374Most people don't know that Vietnam doesn't have clouds, anon
>>218190159how can you kill women and children?
>>218190102Theres no message. That’s the joke. The whole thing is a comedy.
>>218190494That's what basic training does. It removes your sense of empathy. You can't win a war with empathy. To you, they are no longer women and children. One colludes with the enemy and the other are future combatants. It makes sense but it's still horrible. If you didn't think they would do the same to us, you're kidding yourself
>>218190536not the answer I was looking for - NEXT
>>218190665You pull the trigger. Next
childhood is thinking only the first half is good. adolescence is enjoying both halfs equally. adulthood is realizing it's actually three acts, not two
>plæbes not understanding that the entire first half of the movie is Pyle's ego death and that he becomes Animal Mother
>>218190724kubrick threads always bring the schizos out of the woodwork
>>218187842Total meme-take
>>218186548>the point is it's SUPPOSED to be boring!why would I want to watch something that's SUPPOSED to suck?
>>218190465It just looks like chilly, dreary England. People don’t film in London and try to pass it off as Southern California.
>>218191034Why, because you don’t like it?
>>218190724That sounds like bullshit but I want to watch a 2 and a half hour YouTube video explaining it
>>218191040art is about more than just being entertained and momentarily distracted, it's about getting different perspectives on the world from different people and widening your worldview.
>>218190698no. are you a bot?is this whole board bots?this wouldn't have happened a few years ago.NEXT
>>218191205This falls apart due to the actual behind the scenes information. Kubrick refused to leave England so they were forced to approximate urban Vietnam warfare outside of London.
>>218191235Nah I'm real. You asked. I gave two valid, salient answers. Take them. Or don't. Idc. Next
>>218191291look up the line and then try again - NEXT
>>218191267art doesn't have to be a documentary to be valid.
>>218191326Follow your own advice, faggot. Next
>>218191396I don't need to you aids slurping leftist san francisco ghetto dwelling hippie
>>218191372Yes, but it’s not fully intentional. They had to make do with what they had available to them in England since the director refused to shoot it in a more appropriate location.
>>218191417that's a myth to sell more mystique and quirkiness.it was filmed on location in vietnam itself, one of the few vietnam films that were.seversl vietnamers confirmed it
>>218191416Lmao. Being this triggered on 4chan should be embarrassing but you lack self awareness
>>218191417it always looked fine to me. if it ruins your experience, then it's too bad for you.
>>218191442>tumblr tranny's first day here>thinks it's specialkill yourself, child molestor - NEXT
>>218191451It works okay, but I’m not going to be some 4chan asshole and claim that someone is 'filtered' by preferring the boot camp section.
>>218191451I went on 3 tours in vietnam and I literally couldn't tell the difference. these fags are larpers
>>218191484i'm getting whiplash from these replies.
>>218191488how old are you?
>>218191529more like whiplash from flicking between your plebbit tab and here
>>218191470>Still going off of assumptionsYou're more pathetic than I could ever be
>>218191205>art isDoesn't matter what comes after these two words, it's always bullshit, and usually pretentious
>>218191548put it this way, after the first tour I volunteered to go on two more tours.
>>218191575He has a point tho
>>218191585Man, this country treated y'all like dogshit when y'all came back. I'm sorry you went through that
>>218191669worst thing was when I came back after the third tour and I couldn't go out again. I just started walking the country, was looking up an old friend in a mountain town and found out he'd already passed on. then I just wanted to get some food and this sheriff started bugging me like I was a vagrant.no respect
>>218191585larp it is then. this thread would be more interesting if a veteran showed up and talked about his experience.
>>218191787>larp it is then. this thread would be more interesting if a veteran showed up and talked about his experience
>>218191719Seems like the sheriff was just doing his job
>>218191925I just wanted a hot meal, that would have been the first thing I bought
>>218191659Not really. It's correct to say that every minute of a movie doesn't have to be exciting, there can be lows to balance out the highs, but everything else is just fart sniffing.
>>218186159Unironically.It's pure kino.
>not one poster ITT calling out OP for being completely fucking wrongretards, all of you. FMJ is a three act film with three distinct thirds
>>218193118bet you can't even name two of them
OP thinks he's Joker but he's really Private Pyle
I actually prefer the second half.
