>>218192261they weren't that was the problem
>>218192277digits don't lie wtf
>>218192261>what if we made the greatest season of tv ever
>>218192513jfc go back unc chud
>this is my chance
>>218192277this is the thread
>>218192513great post>>218192975terrible post, perhaps the worst
s3 is the best season of tv ever made
>>218193645i don't even like it that much but that's undeniable to melynch was leagues ahead of everyone else
>>218192261david lunch
>>218193745>but that's undeniable to me>lynch was leagues ahead of everyone elsein what way???
>>218193807well, it's not like television is a particularly high quality medium
>>218193823agreed and the return was no exception
It was pure trash. If you have the urge to give up, just do. Read a synopsis on Wikipedia. It's a fat waste of time.
Happy Twin Peaks day, bros
>>218192513there were something like 15 episodes of retarded mumbling drooling cooper acting like a childhow on earth is that anything other than spiteful??
>>218193975why is it spiteful? it would've been spiteful had he never regained his awareness
>>218192261>what the fuck were they thinking??I dont know, we're going to conclude one of the greatest tv shows ever in a fantastic way before everyone involved in the original 2 seasons dies
>>218194090then why didn't they just do that instead of whatever the fuck s3 wasit had none of the warm comfy vibes from the og and every single character in the return was some awful 'subverted' anti-thesis of their original beloved incarnations
>>218194187this is like the third day in a row of you seething about the return
>>218194187>it had none of the warm comfy vibes from the ogthe whole point of the season is that times have changed, media has changed and "you can't go home again" should twin peaks have awkwardly stagnated so people can have a bit of nostalgia? FWWM was a significant change from the original series as well due to the seriousness of the subject matter.
>>218194299>the whole point of the season is that times have changed, media has changed and "you can't go home again"only midwitted redditors parrot this stupid lineyou're incapable of forming your own opinion, so you copy..... the redddit consensus?>should twin peaks have awkwardly stagnated so people can have a bit of nostalgia?no one is saying that, all it need to do was be GOOD >FWWM was a significant change from the original series as well due to the seriousness of the subject matter.no it wasn't, it literally just had more viiolence and tits, it completely felt in line with 1 and 2
>>218194484>only midwitted redditors parrot this stupid linecoop lost 25 years of his life in the lodge, that's tragic, things changed, things had to change for that to have weight.nothing to do with reddit>no it wasn'tlol sure, people were upset about it on release due to how much darker it was than the original series
>DUDE A BRIT WITH A GREEN HAND DESTROYS THE EMBODIMENT OF EVILreddit
>>218194526>things changed, things had to change for that to have weight.like the drop in quality of the script, cinematography, editing, score, and overall acting?for sure david lunch casting his literally assistant as a tag along agent who couldn't act was required to add weight too right?>people were upset about it on release due to how much darker it was than the original serieswhy would I give a fuck what anyone else thinks, they're wrong and dumb and thats obvious
>>218194559green glove*
>>218194571pointless reply
>>218194572>random character introduced awkwardly out of nowhere for 3 minutes 5 episodes previously>steps in out of nowhere during the finally>OI BUB!>GET YO GEEZER HANDS OFF ME PALS>vanquishes bob for reasons?>coop gives a really weird speech and ignore albert and all his good friends and wanders off>show endsbravo lynch, you really subverted my expectations of enjoying myself
>>218194616i enjoyed it, too bad for you i guess
>>218194616It's like this dumb faggot is aware that he was trolled and that this entire exercise was to troll plebs like him but he hasn't figured out why or how yet...
>>218194637yeah midwits tend to just enjoy whatever other people generally agree to agree on, same thing with breaking badanother terrible show that's conidered a masterpiece by npc-tier reddditors
>>218194661probably the guy from the last iteration of this thread that I still don't think watched anything but the return if even that
>>218194661why is this such a canned line?ok, lynch made the show bad on purpose and I didn't enjoy it so I'm the asshole?do you people hearing yourselves even?
>>218194661>show is bad>nah bro you just aren't smart enough to get it>get what?>how bad it is>but I said it was bad>yeah bro exactly you got gotI genuinely worry about the majority of you
why do i watch david lynch works? for the conventional narrative, of course
>>218194778most of his films are incredibly well made and straight forwardand the abstractions are cleary, interesting and entertainings3 acheived none of that, it doesn't feel like lynch at all
>Stupid stinger music plays
>>218194811>doing the same shit he did last thread and ignoring the nature and tone of the show it's season 3 of>comparing it to his moviesI can't decide if -you're assblasted at Lynch-you think this is "trolling"-you actually love him and are trying to honor him in some weird way
>>218194728It's not bad. Your brain, however, is not sufficiently developed to grasp advanced storytelling elements like "subtext", "symbolism", "meta-narratives" or "subversion" (a word that hack Rian Johnson ruined with his shitty fucking "Last Jedi" movie). You should stick to capeshit and shonen.
>>218194842he just got filtered that's all
The Return is a masterpiece and I feel sorry for those who got filtered and Lynched.
>>218194868>"subtext", "symbolism", "meta-narratives"I'll fight you there since if it doesn't exist in a relatively obvious way in the media itself it's not there, I hate subtextLynch would love it though, or rather, he would love that it existed and could be interpreted however, reallysince he loved fucking with people>>218194883so A then
>>218194916>if it doesn't exist in a relatively obvious way in the media itself it's not thereI don't include shit like books in this, I've done 2001 and the book, I just never read the one I keep seeing get posted about Twin Peaks
>>218192261
>>218192261I don't get why they sidelined cooper for 98% of the show
>>218195816Dougie is cooper
>>218195816
>>218195816so lynch could get more screen time with his assistant sitting in hotels trading (badly acted) looks and drinking wine
>>218195816Bob Cooper almost makes up for it, but there's nowhere near enough of him for that either
>>218195916yeah bad cooper ruledI just don't get why the show was such a mess
>>218195962the rest of the series is a mess toobut I don't know how much of it was preplanned and how much is improv by Lynch but it seems like most of it is the latterdirectors can be very bad at it, Peter Jackson is fucking horrible without a ton of preplanningsee: the hobbit
Lynch might have known it'd be one of the last things he did so started tossing things in there that were shots/scenes he always wanted to do somehow, like that fantastic nuke scene that put Nolan to shame
>>218196085it felt that way 100%that was a highlight of the season no doubtthe music performances were really out of place and odd too, like it was all lip syncing not even a genuine one off live song, which while odd, would have at least made sense to justify why tf they were there to begin with
>>218196146>the music performances were really out of place and odd too, like it was all lip syncing not even a genuine one off live songI'd have to watch again but I didn't catch the lip syncing of course I usually zoned out of or skipped the musical bits>Lynch might have known it'd be one of the last things he did if you look at it this way they make sense, since he was something of a musician himself and obviously wanted to give the people that were in those bits a career bumpalso there's shit in there that obviously was stuck in just because either he liked someone and wanted to work with them while he could in something, or they lobbied hard to get in it to work with him
it's like him using what he might of thought of as his last high profile thing to give everyone he liked and wanted to a check and a career bump
>>218196222picrel was such a great, in-universe feeling momentI don't get why the rest of the show went out of its way to not give people what they wanted which was simplyMORE twin peaks, things that captured the essence of why the show was greats3 was honestly just a poorly shot, meandering slog for 90% of its runtime, and the script/story was genuinely awful, even the best dialogue felt super clunky
>>218196296how many weeks/months will you be at this bro
on that note since the original sheriff couldn't do it because health reasons I wouldn't be surprised if Lynch paid him for the phone call scenes he's not even in or somethinghe liked to fuck with people but he was a genuinely good hearted person
>>218196305its a discussion board you mentally unstable bad faith schizo
>>218196330irrelevant to what i said
>>218196296>picrel was such a great, in-universe feeling momentyeah no I hated that scene, but I don't like Cera and he just stunk up shit with his gay accent
Jesus the same retard has been making the same thread for several days straight. We get it you have no fucking taste and Dougie Jones triggered you.
>>218196305you're here too morongo take a debate 101 class or something you offputting dorkyou've also failed to articulate a coherent reason why the season is good, yo just shout buzzwords, misrepresent and strawman
>>218196305janny why are you following me around bro please stop>>218196376again, irrelevant to what i said
>>218196085He knew 100% he could barely get funding for anything since Inland Empire. And he almost had this taken from him had the cast not protested
>>218196423>The film grossed $4.4 million on a budget of around $3 million.they don't black smudge you like that unless you lose a bunch of money, especially not someone of his tier
>>218196376it just is. you're a pleb. end of discussion.
nobody expects some $3 million film to rake in $100 million, if it happens great but it's not an expectation
>>218196423to be fair inland empire fucking sucked too so I get itI'm starting to think the network reigning in his bullshit on the og series contributed to its timelessness, not detracted its also clear either frost lost his touch in s3 or had nothing to do with it
>>218196376>debate101>on 4chan
>>218193975>ugh i didn't get exactly what i was expecting, david lynch is personally attacking me!
/tpg/ bros, I miss you
>>218193888your wife told me you're a fat waste of time
>>218194868Faggot
>>218196510this is the same cretin who just resorts to calling every aspect of the show shit
>>218196493it wasn't because of the budget/profit it was because it was an unwatchable and amateurishhe clearly carried that same energy into s3he lost it as a director, thats fine, look at ridley scott happens all the time
>>218193615Many are saying this.
>>218196555>it wasn't because of the budget/profit it was because it was an unwatchable and amateurishyes because that's ever any consideration in hollywoodbut you just want (You)s and argumentationaka "jonesing for salt so hard you're trying to wring it out of rocks"
call for help
what did he mean by this?
>>218196662>tries the reader that doesn't work 50 times>doesn't just try anotherjesus Dougie really got in there
aaaaaaaaaand now I'm stuck picturing Dougie in Dune
>>218193975It was just sad because cooper was stuck in the lodge for 25 years and when he escaped he wasn't himself, and then when he finally regained his cognition he immediately goes and fucks up massively
>>218196690why didn’t he give a thumbs up
>>218193975>>218196887because Cooper was a character that, as soon as he got out, and thought he understood, was immediately going to solve it, hence ending the seriesDougie filler is just something else to do with Kyle while whatever else Lynch wanted in there goes on
that and a handful of ideas may have been all that was had going in, and it just turned into being whatever Lynch wanted to do, thinking of it as his last big project
>>218196555>It was unwatchable and amateurishWhat was amateurish about it?
>>218196965There was a whole detailed script written with lynch and frost for years but Lynch only kept some stuff and would toss shit away while filming. It was made more like an 18 hour lynch movie rather than a tv show
>>218196940I liked dougie. There just wasn't enough Cooper
>>218194041One theory for why it took so long for Cooper to get his memories back, is that Lynch was fighting tooth and claw to feature the old cast even in reduced capacity, as the revival almost never happened because Showtime for the longest time, told Lynch that a condition for the revival would be that he could only bring Kyle back as Cooper, as far as them wanting season three/the Return to be Cooper, having been freed off-screen during the gap, basically in a new location solving a new supernatural mystery that was 100% divorced from season one-two.
>>218196759>What's in the box?>E-LEC-TRI-CIT-Y
>>218193975>he got lynched by DOUGIE of all thingsyou cannot be serious
>>218197041I liked him too but there's obviously filler, much of it doing this >>218196222>because either he liked someone and wanted to work with them while he could in something, or they lobbied hard to get in it to work with himsticking some of those people as characters that had no real reason to be in the story in there, like the casino guys in Vegas, shoehorning that to work with everything else somehowwhile being "what Dougie's doing" while he's making sure the other characters that are only there because they were in the rest of the series in for extended scenes like the brothers with the hotel, the one being too high to find his way back, etc
>>218197073>Showtime for the longest time, told Lynch that a condition for the revival would be that he could only bring Kyle back as Cooper, as far as them wanting season three/the Return to be Cooper, having been freed off-screen during the gap, basically in a new location solving a new supernatural mystery that was 100% divorced from season one-two.I wasn't aware of this at all and it explains it perfectly, he's fucking with SHOWTIME with Dougie, lelit's not actually aimed at the audience at allmy sides
>>218197041the bit wore out its welcome after 2 episodeswe got 12 more
>>218197073interesting idea that sort of makes sense, but i think >>218196940 is right, and that had cooper came out the lodge fully aware the series would have naturally been over pretty quickdougie let lynch give the show a bit of light heartedness, let him play around with the unconsciousness concept, while also reinforcing both the tragedy of cooper and the overall scheming of the higher powers in the series
>>218192261I’m thinking Kino.
>>218197228bullshit no one wanted brain dead coop for 16 hoursit should have been good coop vs bad coop periodit writes itself and doesn't explain why lynch chose to write bad archs for all his good 'friends' that have zeror impact on the story
>telling Lynch "how it was going to be" the same way the other network was fucking with him with the original run, as a stipulation for doing it at allyeah I understand perfectly why it is like it is now
>>218197279>no one wanted brain dead coop for 16 hourslynch did
>>218194187filtered
>>218197228Dougie was also fucking funny. Felt like Lynch's version of Forrest Gump of this barely moving or audible man just falling upwards into success constantly. Much needed light hearted fun considering it was the background to the FBI/Richard/Bib stuff.
>>218197299i did
>>218195874I got blocked on Twitter by Mark Frost when I shared that David Lynch “No” image in response to his post begging everyone to vote in the last election.
>>218197529how do these guys not get bored of twitter, jfc
>>218194916>I'll fight you there since if it doesn't exist in a relatively obvious way in the media itself it's not thereIf you're familiar with the concept, than what's the subtext of "Full Metal Jacket"? What's the symbolism of the "Mickey Mouse March" and how does it tie in?>>218196529Don't be mad. You're not cut out for this kind of content. It's okay.
>>218197561He buggered off to bluesky to protest the election results, probably my fault for not voting. I agree Twitter is terrible, I’m addicted to the illusion of new information. Should fix my heart and rewatch The Return instead.
>>218192261they were thinking it was the only project they could get funding for
>>218197102>the box of painFucking hell, thanks for reminding me of this>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6XwOmjb0IU>18 years agoFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
