>Confederates portrayed as good guysyikes
Confederates were always the good guys.It was the war of northern aggression.
>>218198961>of northern aggressionagainst what?
>>218198961Slavery was the illegal immigration of its day, stealing all the jobs poor whites could have done for some much needed money
>>218198798>confederates LOST>nazis LOST>Trump LOSTsuck it chuddies
>>218198961>(((Judah P Benjamin)))>good guy
>>218198961Wait you mean everything I was told is a lie?
>>218198798Even the biggest leftist history cucks agree that the union soldiers committed extremely cruel acts on civilians in some parts of the southern side, so the portrayal is accurate, it isn't even about "confederates being good guys", it's about the one civilian farmer Clint Eastwood plays who has to experience union soldiers murdering his child and raping and murdering his wife, which they did irl plenty, so he grows a hatred on them and joins the confederacy.
>>218200048i didn't know union soldiers were so basedI was wrong
>>218200071>raping and murdering your own kind>basedYou are a commie aren't you
>>218198961>>218199350I noticed that incels don't really know what to do with confederates anymore. The old guard of /pol/ and classic white supremacist angle is that they did nothing wrong, but the post-2016 groyper/fuentez-style cry about them because they had a Jewish cabinet member. It just shows the deep ideological rot that has taken place in the right in recent years, where jew-obsessed groyperism essentially replaces classic white nationalism. So muslim are HECKIN BASED because they're anti-semitic but the confederates are bad because they had a jewish cabinet member and apparently slavery is a jewish conspiracy and blacks are our friends.
>>218200093>raping and murdering your own kindso it's ok to rape and murder people of other races?
>>218200101Oh, I'm so sorry. Are you not happy with the current brand of radical rightoidism? Big sad. Here, have a tissue.
>>218200176Yes, because the White race stands superior above all others.Personally I would simply murder all the men and force the women into sex slavery, that would be to their benefit because they will taste superior BWC.
>>218198798The book the film is based on was written by a Confederate apologist, but the movie itself isn't pro South and the villains are mostly common thugs who just so happened to join the Union
>>218200158slavery is the natural order of things. Humans had slaves from the beginning of their existence until the 20th century. Muh jews is a poor excuse for why it's wrong when it's the human condition to dominate the weak.
>>218200158>Also by bringing Niggers inside the country you now have a crime wave that could have been avoided if the Jews didn't bring them over.If you took out the slave ships run by jews the number of black slaves brought to the US goes from 470,000 to 452,000 (4% of slave ships were owned by Jews)also, those few jews that did trade slaves didn't force whites to take them at gunpoint they sold them for money because the whites wanted them.
>>218199332other way around. Yankee business owners (Lincoln's primary support base) wanted slaves to be free because it meant they could flood the northern labor market with scab workers and drive industrial wages down.
>>218200259This is why I also wrote that slavery is economically worse than just simply paying workers a set salary, if slavery would be superior to common salary based economy, the third world shitholes that still practice slavery would be economic powerhouses, but no, it's the free market capitalism countries.
>>218200158we didn't bring them here, the British French and Spanish did. one of the first things the Union did after independence was ban the importation of new slaves.
op is a pleb who stinksfact
It's a sign you're watching kino
>>218198798The Letterboxd reviews for this objectively kino film are seething because of this, and for (accurately) portraying Native Americans as enemies of the Union and allies of the Confederacy.
>>218199346Indians LOSTMexi-cunts LOSTBasedviets LOSTLol
>>218200101>implying those "free palestine" right wingers aren't just disappointed lefties pushed out of their true ideological home.
>>218199346noone ever lost as hard as communism.It's fucking absurd how many retards out there still screech "it's a good idea in principle".
>>218198798Abraham Lincoln had no interest in freeing the slaves. The Civil War was initiated when the South wanted to succeed. The rest of America needed the Southern states for their produce.When Abraham Lincoln made his big speech and signed a bill freeing the slaves he was on record stating that he didn't want the blacks mixing with the Whites and that he apparently saw blacks as inferior. He also only freed the slaves from states that were in rebellion, deliberately leaving those border states that supported the Union with enslavement..
>>218200158true, automation basically made slavery obsolete
>>218200300>one of the first things the Union did after independenceNo, they didn't. It took them 50 years.
>>218199350This shows how pathetic Jew obsessives areThey find the one Jewish guy involved in the war and then use that to somehow say it was a Jewish thingYou people are tiresome
>>218200071You really hate white people huh
>>218200176...maybe
>>218200048>which they did irl plenty, sReally?
>>218200964white people are literally responsible for everything bad that's currently happeningso yes
>>218200093>your own kindCuckfederates aren't American. They fought a war specifically NOT to be part of America you retarded /pol/tranny.
>>218200651>Indians LOST>Mexi-cunts LOSTAnon, you just listed the two biggest allies of the confederacy.
>>218200742But it is tho. At least in school textbooks
>>218200282lol that's bullshitThe evidence for jews dominating slave trading is overwhelming if you look
>>218201051Oh yes if I get shot by a random carjacker that's white people's faultOh no wait umm let me think. If my house gets burgled? Wife gets raped? Uhh hmm.
>>218201177Ok then show it. You've never actually looked btw. Most of the 'sources' for it are laughable fabricated nonsense. Like inforgraphics that are just straight up invented out of nothing. There were almost no Jews at all in America back then.
>>218201255you let them into the henhouse. i dont wanna hear it
>>218201522So what's your fucking point? Which group is above criticism? Why do you hate whites?
>>218198970south were economically booming and had trade deals with catholic europe which was a big no no with jew/brit new englanders, its all so tiresome
>>218198798There are inumerous american movies like this
>>218198798Has there ever been a more blatantly pro Confederate movie in film history? It legit shocked me how pro confederate it was.
>>218200285Then they proceeded to sent half of them back to africa
>>218201058Confederate States of America>not Americanok>American means the supremacy of the federal government, chud
>>218201542it's funny
>>218200048>joining an ideological side because of what some of the people in one side did to youis the dumbest shit
>>218200048Not even union regulars in this case, redlegs, unofficial pro-union guerillas who conducted raids into missouri largely independent of the union army.
>>218201090You don't wanna share the labour of your own talent, work ethic and ingenuity with people who have none of that either. Noone does and forcing people to do is a grave injustice that will always hamper the potential of such a society.
>>218203315Lol how? By that logic noone should fight any group of oppressors.
>>218201177If you ever go to any island in the Carribean, you'll find that oftentimes the very first permanent structure built by Europeans was a synagogue.
>>218200285Sounds familiar
>>218203076Buster Keaton's The General but it's a comedy so it's okay
>>218200048The book this movie was based on was made by a former Ku Klux Klan member who LARPed as a Native American. Its propaganda to whitewash the Confederacy
>>218200101The right wing is not a monolith where every single person holds the same opinion on every issue. You are a retard who thinks the wackiest posts on /pol/ are a bellwether for general opinion
>>218205210Thanks for giving me another reason to love it.
>>218203076Most films made before the 1960s were, to some extent, sympathetic to the South.
>>218203220It really isn't. You're exactly like a discord teenager
>>218198798>thinks there are good guys and bad guys in war
>>218201051by your "logic" I could just as easily say White people are responsible for all the good in the world right now and I'd be more right than you are
>>218201267>There were almost no Jews at all in America back then.you're right just a few 10s of thousands with a substantial fraction owning slave plantations
>>218205501Because white America understood what the Union unleashed upon America
>>218198798It's a common trope in the genre. Confederates as the sympathetic underdogs, Yankees as cruel bullies
>>218200291This. Morality aside, slavery is objectively economically an inferior system to paying your laborers wages, because slaves have zero incentive to be more productive, obviously.
>>218203076Watching this, you would think the Confederates won the Civil War
>>218207292That's unfair. The Yankee has advantage being in the high ground.
The Hellbenders is the superior confederate Western. Underappreciated Spaghetti.
>>218199332this. and guess who was behind colonial slavery?
>>218207491The British
>>218207338>>218205501Sympathetic or nuanced is one thing, but Josey Wales outright demonized the Unionists as barbaric rapists and mass murderers.
What a nice little country you have where traitors of the country didnt get executed or thrown into prison. Literal rich peoples playing with regular folks lives while the leaders get away with everything
>>218207862Lol. Lmao even.
>>218208113Are you seriously denying the British support of the Confederates?
>>218198798>feds portrayed as the good guysMmmm yes, our precious innocent federal government.
>>218208246Slavery is evil and belongs in the dustbin of history anon. There is no justification for slavery.
>>218208113The British established slavery in the colonies, as they had elsewhere
>>218198798Meme film>le gritty good southerner that ends up with a goofy bunch and the stupidest stand off
Cuba had twice as many slaves shipped to them and the United States LOL South America owned millions of slaves. And people don't question the fact that so many people there literally look African. Slavery in the U.S. has been bastardized and used as a weapon against White people.
>>218198798Good job OP, calling out this mediocre flick is the best way to give a stroke to all these chudites
>>218208392FAFO
>>218208369I liked it as a kid but I went back and watched it a couple years ago and yeah, it hasn’t aged well. Basically a superhero movie with cowboys.
>>218198798The book this movie is based on was written by a white dude that literally pretended he was a native amarican, red face and everything lel. Also in the movie Josey Wales is a FORMER confederate soldier and the bad guys are other former confederate soldiers.
>>218200071
>>218200093>your own kindChattel slavery is an abomination and people propping it up and fighting to keep it alive are disgusting demons they deserve no remorse or consideration.
>>218207338boring movie and also embarrassingly inaccurate.
>>218208105>What a nice little country you have where traitors of the country didnt get executed or thrown into prisonblame lincoln and john wilkes booth
>>218208392>Slavery in the U.S. has been bastardized and used as a weapon against White peopledeserved. unfortunately, acknowledging it existed and was bad is not a """"""""""weapon"""""""""" its american history. If white people want there to also be an acknowledgement that Whites also Ended Slavery, thats fine too, just as long as we can be specific. It was the norther whites. Here are the people that voted for the ending of slavery. Here are the abolitionists that fought to end it, etc. The disgusting retard southern fuck face traitor states had absolutely nothing to do with it and if Lincoln had let them Succeed it would be America's North Korea today.
>>218209102>Chattel slavery is an abominationWhy? Because black guys had to work instead of selling crack and play basketball?
>>218208104The ones in question were though, but then both side in that part of the conflict were in the wake of Bleeding Kansas.>>218208994You're misremembering. His former commander was the only one and was working with the redlegs.
The southern american is the most miscegenated and debased strain of the american breed. In a just world they would be purged from this earth.
>>218209207>unfortunately, acknowledging it existed and was bad is not a """"""""""weapon"""""""""" its american history.The way you said that, and your inability to understand what I mean makes me think you really don't know what you're talking about. What other race gets shit on more than White people for slavery? None. Arab had more slaves, White people were slaves during the Trans Atlantic slave trade. So yes, slavery is used a WEAPON for the basis to attack White people and to demonize them to the point it's okay to be outright racist toward them.
>>218209207>If white people want there to also be an acknowledgement that Whites also Ended Slavery, thats fine too, just as long as we can be specific. It was the norther whites. Many southern whites, including those who fought for the Confederacy, wanted to end slavery as well. The problem is that you can't just "end slavery." The rapid change on the economy is obvious, but another factor that made it easy to get rid of slavery in the North is that there weren't that many to begin with. The South had the vast majority of them, and if you simply end the institution, you end up with millions of Africans running around. Most abolitionists were also in favor of repatriation, but they worked on a small scale. Lincoln wanted repatriation, but he deemed it virtually impossible to do. The North was less affected by this, but to the South it was a huge threat.>Before proceeding, let me say I think I have no prejudice against the Southern people. They are just what we would be in their situation. If slavery did not now exist among them, they would not introduce it. If it did now exist amongst us, we should not instantly give it up. This I believe of the masses North and South. Doubtless there are individuals on both sides, who would not hold slaves under any circumstances; and others who would gladly introduce slavery anew, if it were out of existence. We know that some Southern men do free their slaves, go North, and become tiptop Abolitionists; while some Northern ones go South, and become most cruel slave-masters.
>>218209568>When Southern people tell us they are no more responsible for the origin of slavery than we, I acknowledge the fact. When it is said that the institution exists, and that it is very difficult to get rid of it, in any satisfactory way, I can understand and appreciate the saying. I surely will not blame them for not doing what I should not know how to do myself. If all earthly power were given me, I should not know what to do, as to the existing institution. My first impulse would be to free all the slaves, and send them to Liberia,-to their own native land. But a moment's reflection would convince me, that whatever of high hope, (as I think there is) there may be in this, in the long run, its sudden execution is impossible. If they were all landed there in a day, they would all perish in the next ten days; and there are not surplus shipping and surplus money enough in the world to carry them there in many times ten days. What then? Free them all, and keep them among us as underlings? Is it quite certain that this betters their condition? I think I would not hold one in slavery at any rate; yet the point is not clear enough to me to denounce people upon. What next? Free them, and make them politically and socially our equals? My own feelings will not admit of this; and if mine would, we well know that those of the great mass of white people will not. Whether this feeling accords with justice and sound judgment, is not the sole question, if, indeed, it is any part of it. A universal feeling, whether well or ill-founded, cannot be safely disregarded. We cannot, then, make them equals. It does seem to me that systems of gradual emancipation might be adopted; but for their tardiness in this, I will not undertake to judge our brethren of the South.
I really hate how the culture war has re-opened the old wound of the Civil War. It's not propaganda to acknowledge that the Union, both in the form of regular standing soldiers (Sherman's march) and irregular militias, committed horrible atrocities against southern civilians. You don't need to be a lost causer to grant half the country the right of humanity, rather than casting everyone south of the mason-dixon as ontologically evil. You can acknowledge the evils of slavery without portraying everyone on the union side as a perfect, morally righteous hero. You can even acknowledge the ancillary issues that led to the civil war without downplaying the importance of slavery. Attempting to swiftly re-integrate the south and get it back up on its feet was the correct idea. Unfortunately, Reconstruction failed, in no small part due to the people who wanted to punish the south harshly and turn it into a region under perpetual military occupation. Those who unironically argue that the Union should've gone around killing every confederate statesman or officer are unhinged, such an action would've only stunted the United States further and turned a massive chunk of the nation into an entirely parallel culture engaging in malicious non-compliance at best, and constant guerilla warfare at worst. In other words, being punitive rather than pursue reconciliation would've turned the U.S.A. into a white mirror of its southern neighbors.
>>218198798There's only winners and losers in war. The winners get to write the losers as the bad guys in history and themselves as the good guys
FOR THE SOUTH
>>218203064>catholic europemost of the cotton was traded with england for the textile industry
>>218210849pwned
>>218205904Yes, that has been increasingly common thought these days
>>218201051self loathing white person w rich parents or broody third worlder?
>>218208616It's a road movie you dumb fuck
>>218204008reminder that when the emancipation proclamation was made, there were riots across multiple northern cities because most working class northerners strongly opposed it, and had supported the war because they were told it was in the name of preserving the United States rather than to free slaves. Lincoln sent the army in to violently suppress them
>>218203076Gods & Generals and Gettysburg are both openly sympathetic towards the confederate top brass, if not the CSA government. Tennessee Johnson was excoriated for its confederate bent.
>>218198798>Confederates portrayed as good guys
> /tv/> no one brings up Gone With The Windwhats wrong with you culturally bereft zoomie niggers?
>>218207292that guy is portrayed as a coward and a drunk consistently up to that point. Wilson isn't shown to have any particular leanings either way and was just instigating because he wanted an excuse to kill somebody. Torrey just happened to take the bait.
>>218208105but we got Lincoln, though?
>>218208318when are you arming up in the liberation of the slaves that currently exist in Africa and the Middle East, then?
>>218213738Northerners were mainly motivated by a fear that the South would find a way to bring blacks to the North if the planters weren't stopped, and they were told that emancipation, the civil rights amendments, etc would only affect the South and would help keep blacks in the South where they belonged. Then massive numbers of blacks moved north anyway during the Gilded Age, which is a huge reason popular support for Reconstruction evaporated.
>>218209305reminder that the record for amount of cotton picked in a day by a black slave (plantation owners actually kept track of that stuff for friendly competitions back in the day) was recently beaten in a few hours by a guy who wanted to see how difficult it was. the real reality of it is black slaves were lazy fucks who spent all day dancing and singing in the fields and got given free food and housing in exchange. slavery was bad because of how woefully inefficient it was; it actively held the southern economy back
>>218198798I wish this movie was as good as that poster
>>218198798I had this movie hyped up to me and I chose to watch it last Friday over Hang Em High which I have also never seen but Josey Wales was just mediocre. It was no High Plains Drifter and it was certainly no Fistful of Dollars. It was not as overrated as The Unforgiven but also not as good as The Unforgiven. Thank you for your attention to this matter!
