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star trek sex with shran
Why don’t they just vape space meth instead of playing the stupid game that pings you space meth?
Sisko as the Emissary teaching the Wormhole Aliens how to play Baseball
>>218312239Making space meth is super dangerous because you can easily destabilize the warp core while cooking
Spirit Folk really isn't a bad episode.
I think Fair Haven SUCKS
The /Garak/ Show is so good.
Oh now it makes sense
>>218312239sense of accomplishment that's how gamification gets youyou think you're hustling on that sigma grindset but you're just chugging along on the rails they laid for you
>>218312282The fuckin last thing any creature needs is to be bananasplained.
why are the female Klingons so sexy
>>218312416a lot of people had a cow, man
Which S1-2 ENT 'sodes stick out in your memory?
>>218312604>bananasplainedI for one don't see the a-peel
>>218312726The Andorian Incident
>>218312365My headcanon is that inertial dampeners have to be spread throughout every structure of the ship in order to function. The explosions are the result of the ones inside a panel failing for a microsecond.
Who's the Iran of Star Trek? My vote goes to Cardassians.
>>218312933I always thought it was the EPS conduits
>>218312962Objectively it's the bajorans, their terrorists and religious extremists and literally had their pope as the leader of their government
The /Garak/ Show must go on!
>>218312962>Did you know that bald cocksucker says I look like the Butcher of Gallitep?>>Who does?>>>Sisko.>>>>I never got that at all.>Bald piece of shit.
>>218312282It is not linear.
>>218313237>Your daughter Ziyal, whatever happened there
>>218313237Word to the wise, remember Wolf 359
Oh brar keep! A fresh-- bottle of Kanar, if you would please!
>>218313456Does Bashir really qualify as an incel? He has several girlfriends he just sucks at keeping them. Geordi is the real trek incel
>>218313534>several GIRLfriendsWhat like Old Man?
>>218313534>Does Bashir really qualify as an incel?yes, did you even watch?
>>218313393I don't remember the first 358 wolves
>>218313534>Geordi is the real trek incelHe's beyond an incel, he makes holograms of real people and then fucks them.
>>218313613I haven't watched Star Trek in like 20 years so my memory is a little fuzzy.
>>218313655>inside you are 359 wolves>>218313664it's really good once you get past all the filler and reach The Garak Show.
>>218313613He's hooking up with different women every few episodes, it's just Jadzia he has no luck with.
>>218313655Watch it, Ensign Moltisanti.
>>218313682>He's hooking up with different women every few episodesno he isn't. are you on crack?
Why do all the Chinese people in the T'Trek universe have Japanese or Korean names? Was it a consequence of the Eugenics Wars/WW3?
>>218313662You would if you could.
Just finished TNG. So far, my series ranking out of the ones I've watched;Series Overall Rating:TNG > TOS > ENT Series Coziness Rating:TNG > ENT > TOSstill have to watch DS9 and VOY.
>>218313722He was with leeta and he mentions dating some chick in “his way” I don’t recall any other specific examples at the moment but he’s definitely implied to have several short term relationships
>>218313662Geordi isn't an incel he's actually picky. that one ensign girl wanted to fuck him and he was just annoyed because he wasn't into her
>>218313746>I don’t recall any other specific examples at the moment but he’s definitely implied to have several short term relationshipsyou dont recall them because they're not real and you need to take your meds
>>218313746Wasn't there also the wheelchair chick that keeps getting posted?
Bashir fucked the low-gravity cripple, if nothing else.
>>218313772>>218313762He has a short fling with the retard chick from statistical probabilities and also there was the chick with nice feet he mentioned once. Thats four. So no I don’t need meds.
>>218313788>He has a short fling with the retard chickshe was literally disgusted and creeped out about how he tried to take advantage of her being a retard and her doctor and left him immediately after coming to her senses that is probably the most incel shit that's ever been in Star Trek
>>218313746We see him with random women in the replimat or Quark's all the time. He has a go-to story about an exam in med school that he says always works on women.
>>218313807he actually fucking says he's attracted to how childlike she is
>>218313744i just started last night, on my 5th Garak Show episode. So happy i don't have to listen to boss bitches and sports historians trying to explain what a day is anymore.
you can never gowrong with gowron
>>218313971What is it with SciFi always requiring some disgusting brown creatures to seemingly balance races out? i appreciated Star Wars for at least covering up the Sand People.
Your post was without honor.
>>218314090The Alpha Wolf #1 awooo
Changeling sex. The wettest.
>>218314209Like a couple Stretch Armstrongs with the skin peeled off
NuTrek is just a product of the new Dark Ages. Back in the 1960s, people were obsessed with space exploration. It was seen as the next step of human evolution, it was seen as something inevitable. Man on the Moon, base on the Moon, man on Mars by 21st century.Since then, those aspirations and dreams have been replaced by narcissistic navel gazing. People nowadays spend more time pondering what is between their legs than contemplating unknown possibilities of existence. Modern culture is obsessed with identity. We've abandoned religion and replaced it with a cult of hedonism.And nothing represents it better than those NuTrek shows. You look at TOS and TNG and they represent that Space Race spirit perfectly. By the time of DS9, different storytelling priorities started developing, but ENT still had have love for space exploration within our lifetime, maybe inspired by the Space Shuttle program.But by 2011, the program had ended, and we entered what I would call the new cultural Dark Ages. Space exploration faded from collective consciousness, replaced by inward obsession with identity. Before 2015, you could ask kids who they want to be when they grow up and they would all answer "astronaut." Now the answer is "influencer." Adolescents and young adults spend more time coming up with new genders to identify as than actually learning about the outside world.You look at all these NuTrek shows and what they all have in common is that space exploration is completely secondary. Discovery, Picard, Lower Decks, Starfleet Academy are not shows about space exploration. They're shows about self-discovery, feelings, emotions. Star Trek is secondary in that equation. Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds in particular are shows that are more interested in talking about Star Trek than actually being Star Trek.So in the end it doesn't matter who owns Star Trek because current culture is incapable of producing or appreciating stories that elicit wonder and imagination
>>218313707>Ensign Moltisantihttps://youtu.be/Mw3SV6U_p0Q
>>218314282Elon wanted to go to Mars.
>i want to know what the HELL is going on>i want to know why my EBT deposit has not been transferred>i want to know why my son was judged on the content of his character>and i want to know why the Federation is willing to risk a war with the Romulans to prevent going to war with the Romulans
>>218314297Elon wanted to be known as the man who went to mars.
>>218314330Which would include actually going to Sol 4.
>>218314414Believe
mars is a shitty worthless planet, moon is worth more
>>218314461The moon is not a planet.
>>218314473exactly thats how little mars is worth
>>218314480Mars has iron deposits.
Our solar system has no real worth because it has no other sapient species to fug.
>>218314517so does every chunk of debris in the universe but most of them dont got a gravity well and a trash atmosphere
>>218314528>forgetting the plutonians
>and then i listen to their stupid stories pretending i am sympathetic towards them so they will have sex with me
>>218314865Garak is canonically straight.
>>218314883So it would seem, also canoninicalily Garak expresses that he would do absolute anything to have sex with any unfamiliar species he could get his hands on.
>>218314282You're right, but I think you're wrong as well. The space race was a dick measuring contest between the US and the USSR. I'd like to think that NASA or any other space program on earth was as eager to reach the stars as we were back in the 60s, but the fact that we have no extraterrestrial colonies, and instead just a bunch of satellites around earth shows that the whole thing was just a dick measuring contest. Oldtrek portrays a future where mankind can travel at speeds greater than the speed of light, and meet new worlds and shit. That sort of world becomes less and less real as the days go by, and i hate that
remember when Garak said even though the Intendant was a total psycho bitch he considered getting to eat her pussy sometimes a perk of the job? I memba
>>218315116eeew
>>218315129that's hot, retard
>ywn be within sniffing distance while turning Kira the Cardassian's remote vibrator up to warp 11
Odo Explodohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UdR_D9AnSA
>>218315190I know mirror universe episodes are throwaway gags but I wish mirror odo didn't mirror explodoEvil Odo sounds like such a cool/scary villain
>>218315341he was basically the same on both sides
>>218315596Tactically he's underutilised in both universes, but in the mirror universe they'd let him do far more terrible things if they ever realised his potentialImagine having John Carpenter's The Thing as your security chief
DUDE THE FOUNDERS
>>218315159cardi spy kira is a much better backstory than the one they stuck with
>>218315159Why are Cardie women so fertile, bros
you remember that ENT episode where the crew got stuck in space cum?
>>218315702Ah HAH! A man of elevated tastes! Just- like- me.
>alien scowling, overtly rude, making threatsi sense a great deal of hostility, captain.>someone bawling their eyes outi sense how much pain you're in>someone tells an obvious liei can sense he's not telling the truth
>>218315957Greek whore
>>218315957It's for legal purposes, like a lie detector test only worse
I'm going to do it /trek/I'm going to watch SNW
>>218316150have you watched TAS?
>>218316210Yeah.
i am 3 seasons into Deep Space 9 and my yellow fever has been COMPLETELY cured; and replaced with something much more... Sleek and intense...
>>218316282What's it called, then? Grey fever? Spoon fever?
>>218316303it's called filling the, gaps, between Human and Cardassian, relations, with my penis you see.
>>218313680>>inside you are 359 wolvesHow excessively Canadian
>>218312962Breen
>As far as they're concerned, we'll always be niggers
>>218316536That'll be all, ensign.
>>218316536what's it about? niggas on the moon?
Were the guides right? This is one of the episodes you're supposed to skip?
>>218315957Troi isn’t even empathic shes a cold reader akin to John Edward and also Picard has autism. There’s a bunch of times where some REAL SHIT is going down with crew members and somehow she can’t “sense” it. The show doesn’t even explain it with some kind of psychic blocking thing they just don’t have her show up on screen.
Alright just what in the fuck, you /trek/ bastards will pay for ruining my Garak Show.
>>218316536
>>218315703Yeah it was a good episode, classic trek
Lets get retarded, /trek/
>>218315957 >>218316601It’s not just Picard. The writers knew the type of people who liked sci-fi also had poor emotional intelligence and struggled to read faces. So they created an attractive woman to tell them what other characters were feeling.
what this franchise needs is more gorn
>>218316900*Gorn porn
>>218313032kai winn always seemed like an anomaly during her arc as bajor's political leader, and the analogy to iran would only work if their theocratic government was made up of foreign and malicious cardassians
>>218316900If humans goon to porn, do Gorn poon?
>>218316948Yea sure, why not.
>>218316843>get
>>218316887Many anons struggle socially.
>>218313724It was a result of the "dirty knees, look at THESE" offensive of 2048.
>>218314282If you look at how long water travel existed before people could cross the ocean from Europe to the Americas, it's to be expected that it could take hundreds or even thousands of years to go from liquid rockets to whatever is necessary to fly to Alpha Centauri and see Londo. Most people can't look that far ahead.
Should I watch a season of VOY or should I watch ZZ Gundam?
>>218317379>ships have gotten biggerwhat's your point?
>>218317403Watch Starfleet Academy :)
>>218317431I'd rather watch Witch From Mercury and then die of a seizure in my sleep at that point.
>>218317478Whoever gets dubs first you must watch!Star Trek: Lower Decks!
>>218317426oh no it's retarded
>>218317478>>218317493Riverdale
Why did she do it?
>>218317379>1766 to 1956I feel like we skipped a few steps here.
>>218317689You'd be surprised. I've been going down a rabbit hole of the history of fashion and codpieces were invented before pockets. The underwire bra as we know it is maybe only 120 years old and werent popularized until WWII when there were fabric shortages. You would be amazed at how much things don't change sometimes.
>>218317646Cardassian women
Steven Greer says free energy and other technology that would make rockets and pretty much anything that works by fuel combustion obsolete is already known and has been held back by governments for the last 100 years and I believe him. Do you really think aliens capable of space travel have to resort to burning shit?
>>218317727Gotta love Berman Trek's idea to make a futuristic sport but only using props and costumes laying around the storage closet.
>>218317826It was just American gladiators
>>218317727Yeah, but like... there's gotta be more things between a wooden paddleboat with wood containers and a near-modern steel cargo vessel with diesel engines, right? Surely at least one or two more, like the first all-metal or the first fuel powered propeller.
>>218315845i love garak, i love dukat and i love damardont @ me
>>218318116I'll reply to who I want. I have that right as a member of this council.
>>218317478>>218317493Turn-A
>>218318171
>>218318203The strange thing to me was that they put Loran in a dress but someone put their foot down about the galo sengen nigga being gay.
>>218318171[retard voice] TAAN A GANDAM
>>218318341
ANIME JA NAI(anime ja nai)ANIME JA NAI(anime ja nai)HONTOU NO KOTO SAAAAAAAA
>>218317403You should watch(or rewatch) Irresponsible Captain Tylor
See Lower Decks fans? Good sci-fi cartoons exist. Too bad you don't watch any of them.
Childhood is watching Star TrekAdulthood is watching Law & Order
>>218318858dick wolf is exactly what trek needs. too bad hes pushing 80
>>218318963>dick wolfThe native fauna of Turkana IV never ceases to astound me.
>>218318858OG law and order is so good. Up until like season 8 or 9 it’s peak. Then it’s kinda meh. Member that episode when Robinette defended the white lady sterilizing ghetto qkweens?
>>218317493Make them watch Strange New Worlds.
>>218317403Watch actual good anime (Ideon or Macross)
>>218318858LAO was like Star Trek in that it presented both sides of a complex issue and let the audience decide if the characters made the right decision.
>>218319046I haven't seen that 'sode yet. Who were the detectives? For me it's everything up to when Lenny leaves. >>218319144ST had a few morally ambigious endings, like with sexual organs xir, but LAO spams them like nobody's business.
>>218319144i feel like it was usually clear which side was right but sometimes that side didnt win because any good legal system gets it wrong sometimes
>>218318858I think criminal intent is the best cop show of all timethe Wire, the Shield, original Law and Order are all good, along with many others, but CI does it for methe PERFECT 1 hour tv cop drama, especially early seasons
>>218319272Criminal Intent is ruined simply by how tedious the >Goren autistically jumps around the room to coerce a confession while the person’s lawyer sits there motionlesssegments got. Frank Pembleton on Homocide LotS did it better
>>218314480Planets are priceless.
Star & Trek
trek, it's kino!
>>218319464>CAUSE I GOT FAITH OF THE HEART
You know what Ford stands for, don't ya?"Fix it again, Tony!"
>>218316843>so, worms huh
>>218319603
Star Trek: Apologize
You can't prove Star Trek is not actually start rec.
>>218319661FixOftenRepairDaily
>>218319603The two montages would flow together pretty well for a comprehensive "getting from there to here"
i can say definitively that the way to eden was a better musical than whatever that shit snw tried to do.
The response to the episode “Wrongs darker than death or night” has always been bizarre to me. Fans say Kiras actions in this episode are irrational but thats the point. It’s supposed to be irrational. She was a child soldier and is suffering from PTSD. Just because she’s had episodes prior to this that challenge her world view doesn’t mean those years of conditioning are just magically going to go away, that’s not how that works. Especially with news that is so personal, of course she’s going to regress, of course rationality is going to go out the window, that kind of revelation is traumatic for someone like Kira. I also find the way people talk about Dukat odd, that this episode makes him too evil or petty. People seem to misconstrue Dukats complexity as a villain whose next move is hard to predict as moral complexity. Dukat was never morally complex, he was a repugnant monster from day one, he oversaw a system of torture, rape, and murder. His behavior in Waltz and Wrongs is not some dramatic shift in his character, it’s him going mask off. It was established before this that Dukat had raped a Bajoran woman, I have seen people unironically take Dukat at his word that it was a consensual and loving relationship, despite the fact that Cardassians raping Bajoran women was an established fact in season one. The implication was always pretty clear. I can understand people talking issue with the time travel plot and Siskos willingness to allow Kira to go back in time but honestly I don’t see it as any more ridiculous than any of the other plot conveniences in numerous other episodes.
>>218319986>that this episode makes him too evil or pettyit does. him calling up Kira in the middle of the night just to troll her is actually retarded and out of character. but it is in line with the character assassination agenda they set in motion after Waltz. if you're defending anything he does after that episode as making sense you're probably retarded.
>>218320072Truth. The bts situation is actually quite clear about it. Behr and RDM always had an agenda to make Dukat a cartoonish evil nazi villain. Wolfe and the various episodic writers, along with Alaimo, favored a more nuanced depiction of the character. When Wolfe left the show at the end of s5 Dukat was summarily flipped to be like Behr's ideal.
>>218319986Kira's mom was a whore.
>>218320305t. Kira
>>218320305Just a regular Bajoran woman, then.
>>218319986>I also find the way people talk about Dukat odd, that this episode makes him too evil or petty. People seem to misconstrue Dukats complexity as a villain whose next move is hard to predict as moral complexity. Dukat was never morally complex, he was a repugnant monster from day one, he oversaw a system of torture, rape, and murder. His behavior in Waltz and Wrongs is not some dramatic shift in his character, it’s him going mask off.Nothing wrong, nothing wrong.
>>218320305>>218320316>>218320362>FUCK ME HARDER DUKAT>FUCK ME HARDER>OH MY PROPHETS, NOTHING CAN SATISFY ME MORE THAN YOUR GIANT SPIKY CARDASSIAN COCK >FORGET MY PATHETIC C.UCK HUSBAND
>>218319986pre-waltz he wasn't a nazi, he was corrupt vichy police guy in casablanca. sure he'd fuck your wife/mom but he'd be breaking his own laws for it. everybody got something out of it. maybe he'd arrest the local troublemakers without cause but thats what kept the place running without oversight.
>>218320432the way Meru is just like "Huh? Who?" when Kira asks "DID HE HURT YOU?" just says it all
>>218320072Waltz makes no sense to me. Why does he hit Dukat with a pipe and say he’s not actually evil since he didn’t kill all the bajorans like he should’ve and then at the end of the episode say Dukat is le hecking ultimate true evil turbo Hitler? The natural flow of the script should have something like Dax saying Dukat is an evil man and then Sisko being like>no, he’s not an evil man, he’s just a man >*music*>*roll credits*there’s so many episodes I wish I could tweak the end of to turn them into 11/10s and not just 8/10s
>>218320478>Why does he hit Dukat with a pipe and say he’s not actually evilI thought he was being sarcastic, the whole episode he's being condescending towards Dukat
>>218320455>pre-waltz he wasn't a naziThe guy who oversaw labor camps, mass executions, torture, and systemic rapes?
>>218320478not trying to be mean but you're too dumb to be watching Star Trek. you're literally Pakled tier
>>218320516that same retard made a post to the same effect like a week ago, he's either genuinely autistic or b8ing
>>218320516It’s such a weird moment to be sarcastic though since he’s like unconscious. That feels almost Marvel quipesque. And also how can he be /true evil incarnate/ like Sisko claims when he objectively could have definitely been more evil when he governed Bajor like he was saying. Does listening to your own moral compass that tells you not to kill even though you want to make you MORE evil? Lol
>>218320541no the guy that got that guy's job. dukat was a mid level administrator from the space station not even overseeing shit on the ground. his job was receiving reports and making reports to his higher ups, the best he could do was minor reforms that probably werent even implemented by his junior officers. he wasn't even powerful enough to be a villain, he was a maritza who didn't realize it.
>>218320546That’s probably you, otherwise you would have added something to explain your reasons for thinking that like a civilized person.
>>218320603why would I try to explain something to a Pakled? like >>218320553 said you're trolling anyway.
>>218320575>It’s such a weird moment to be sarcastic though since he’s like unconscious. That feels almost Marvel quipesque.That's what it is, I guess you could say it's weird or marvely but it never bothered me, it's a small moment, I figured it's just Sisko thinking out loud. Also Dukat is evil precisely because he thinks he's being altruistic, he thinks that his "restraint" makes his crimes magically less horrific, that's the whole point of his character, he thinks that because he could have been far more brutal yet didn't that makes him a hero.
>>218320553well last time you said the same insults and didn’t defend your objections whatsoever and it ended with me winning the exchange. It’s not consistent writing
TEROK NORTEROK NOR>>218320305
>>218320623How does that make one more evil than if he was sadistic and malicious about it though?
>>218320674I'm a Trekkie, not a philosopher.
I just think it would be a better episode with the “road to hell is paved with good intentions, the capacity for evil is within us all” moral rather than the “haha nazi space lizard” moral.
I just think that the Bajorans had it coming.
>>218320733they set dukat up for real redemption with ziyal too, he knew the best thing he ever did was have a halfbreed baby and then kira got her killed. they could have gone with that instead of sisko taunting him into becoming eviler.
>>218320733>I just think it would be a better episode with the “road to hell is paved with good intentions, the capacity for evil is within us all” moralThat's why Patterns of Force was so good. The message wasn't "Nazi Germany killed millions because they're evil" but "Fascism attracts people in need of direction, but it always ends in the same result"
>>218320733Dukat never had good intentions tho. You can make a nuanced evil character without making it le misunderstood good guy who did evil things.
>>218314282
>>218320623>Dukat is evil precisely because he thinks he's being altruisticYour actions make you evil, not your intentions.
>>218320824>>218320816his attitude was always compromise. he wouldn't or couldn't betray the perfect order of cardassia but he wanted a nice place for bajorans there too without all the rape gangs and terrorism. neither side was ever going to compromise with him.
>>218320816That's what makes Ira Behr a shit writer. His intentions were always evil.
Waltz didn't need to exist in the first place the only reason it does is to hamfistedly spoonfeed the audience on Dukat's mindset so they have basically carte blanche to continue ruin his character from then on. he didn't need any explaining. in their incompetence that episode actually inadvertently sane-washes him by showing that he actually does harbor self-doubts and internalizes what other people think about him in an accurate way, which is unlike a true malignant narcissist who would never think like that.
>>218320816>wanting people to like you and praise youIs basically the intention of all forms of charity and decent acts
>>218320783The very short act where he was a space pirate raiding Klingon ships was a really satisfying place to take his character
>>218320846I think it's insane that some of you make posts like this. Dukat in no uncertain terms wanted Bajorans to be a slave race for Cardassians. He wanted to work them endlessly and rape their women while exploiting their planet's resoruces. The only reason he killed slightly less Bajorans than his predecessors was so that he could Stockholm syndrome Bajorans into worshipping him and look better to other Cardassians by raising work efficiency. The guy is evil to the bone. Did he deserve the bad writing the last two seasons? No. But he certainly wasn't whatever stupid fucking bullshit you're writing.
>>218320846it's people like you who drove the writers fucking insane with how actually fucking stupid you are and made them want to ruin Dukat in the first place
>>218320990youre right. dukat is a monster because he tried to use his position of power to ease the brutality of the occupation instead of trying to end the occupation and get rolled by the cardi machine and replaced by a less compassionate overseer who would force the bajorans into submission even if it meant killing them all. you god damned simpleton
>>218320990anon, cardassians were a slave race to cardassia. dukat went as far with babying the bajorans as he could get without getting executed for treason but he wanted to go farther he was just weak. he was not capable of calling cardassia bad, even to himself, but what he really wanted was for the empire to become like the federation.>>218321037they accidentally wrote a good character to begin with instead of a dumb nazi. they had to correct their mistakes with all possible force.
>>218321041You need bigger bait.>>218321048>but what he really wanted was for the empire to become like the federation.Put down the crack pipe or cite it. Your choice.
>>218321064by "like the federation" i mean beloved for its imperialist conquest. thats why sisko is his rival and not a kira or something.
>>218320990>Dukat in no uncertain terms wanted Bajorans to be a slave race for Cardassians. He wanted to work them endlessly and rape their women while exploiting their planet's resorucesBut he didn’t. > The only reason he killed slightly less Bajorans than his predecessors was so that he could Stockholm syndrome Bajorans into worshipping him and look better to other Cardassians by raising work efficiencyWhy is wanting people happier not wanting to be hated evil? Because it makes you look good? Would it be good if it makes you look bad? IMO Dukat did what any one of us in that position would do. Was the occupation evil? Sure. Was Dukat? He was just a person, a product of culture, experience and upbringing. There was nothing fundamentally different from a normal person to set him aside from anyone else in terms of being “evil”.
>>218321064you should spend more time studying klingon proverbs, retard>better to deal with the devil you know
He killed Jadzia so he couldn't have been all that bad.
>Of course if she says "no" then the answer is "no." But she's not gonna say "no." Because of the implication.
>>218321088>*tips fedora*>>218321146It's cute that you're trying to be morally ambigious but you really don't have the IQ for it bud
>>218319911that's our trekpu!
kira is like zyal's adoptive mother which makes her dukat's baby mama
>>218321041A more contentious debate I reckon would be whether or not the Year of Hell guy was actually committing genocide, if the civilizations now never existed to begin with. Since every firing of the temporal canon must alter the universe at some quantifiable variable number of births/deaths. At what point are you not a murderer under Chakotay’s reasoning? Unless every planet is at maximum population everywhere in the universe you’re literally Hitler.
dukat wasnt even following orders. he was literally trying to undermine cardassian policy for the benefit of the bajoran people. and he was successful. his softer hand allowed the resistance to flurish and disrupt cardi operations to the point they decided to withdraw from bajor altogther. dukat is ironically the greatest hero in bajoran history, and still they revile him. killing them all is better than they deserve
>>218321215by ds9 s5~ starfleet was actively trying to swindle way into occupying bajor. a weaker earlier-season sisko could have fallen into the same trap dukat did.
>>218321215nobody thinks you know what you’re talking about, with responses like these yk?
>>218312962Bajorans of the most well known planets
>>218321269i do. you're not worth actually engaging with it's clear to everyone you're a troll.
>>218321253remember: no a single statue
>>218321315>doesnt want to engage in autistic rambling thought experiment like an actual Trekkie>would rather hear quips and memesNutrek seems your speed
>>218321349i don't see any thoughts taking place so far
>>218321240i think hes in the right because his stated goal is to undo the damage he did in the first place so all the changes along the way are irrelevant. but this works as long as you believe he would only stop at a full reset and not stop as soon as he got his family back.
>>218321146It's really not that hard to dehumanize others. Probably a million times easier when it's literally an alien race.
After Sisko hit Dukat with the pipe he should've said "Take THAT Hitler!
here's a thought experiment for you: imagine you weren't retarded and were actually capable of posting bait that was more interesting to talk about than the meta reason for why you posted it, which was to get (You)s
>>218321358BAzinga, gottem!
>>218321253Except Dukat cracked down even harder on Bajorans once they tried to assassinate him. So no. Nice try tho.
>>218321413>come to a discussion forum to discuss things people are likely to discuss>be engaged and responsivemy intention was (You)s and therefore i am true evil… just like Dukat… it all makes sense now… oh my god what have I done owari
>>218321468dude you already tried this bait before we have people here who remember it and the archive is right there. you can stop now. go back to the drawing board and do better next time.
Dukat really is such a brilliant character because he taps straight into the mental gymnastics of Christian fandamentalist neo Nazis to the point that the mere discussion of him will trigger the most schizophrenic pathological responses from said individuals.
>>218321490my bait (otherwise known as the subject of what I want to talk about because it is an opinion I hold) not changing would mean I’m in good faith here, no?Do you walk up to your friend telling a story at a party to some people he just met like >bro I heard this before holy shit. bait.
>>218321376even easier when theyre nazis
>>218321517>Christian fandamentalist neo Nazislolwhut. meds
>>218321598Don't engage with the mentally ill, it only encourages them.
>triggered paramount shill disengages from work duties
>>218321572you're not my friend though you're just some retard on 4chan
>>218321467wouldn’t you?
>>218321672Personally I would free them from slavery but hey that's just me.
>>218321395at the end to Dax he should’ve said>there’s such a thing as truly evil…>that’s why we need to remember to register to vote this November
>>218321698How? You’d just get replaced by central command.
>>218321738>arm bajorans>link up with feds>????>freedom!It's literally that easy
>>218321753>implying the Obsidian Order, the greatest intelligence service in the quadrant, would permit you to even reach step 1
>>218321777The same order that couldn't stop ragtag Bajoran terrorists? Yeah okay (lol)
Why did the Federation want Bajor to join them so bad when their money economy and theocratic society would have prevented their admission?
>>218321789Not their fault Central Command was incompetent.>>218321815Wormhole.
>>218321815to control the wormhole better
>>218321826>>218321827Picard tells Sisko his mission is to get Bajor in the Federation at the beginning of the pilot episode, well before the wormhole was discovered.
>>218321852yeah but by s5 theyre willing to do it at the risk to bajorans
>>218321826>>218321827>>218321852PICARD: I assume that you have been briefed on the events leading to the Cardassian withdrawal?SISKO: Yes, sir. I understand they've spent the last half century robbing the planet of every valuable resource before abandoning it.PICARD: They've left the Bajorans without a means of being self-sustaining. The relief efforts we've been coordinating are barely adequate. I've come to know the Bajorans. I'm a strong proponents for their entry into the Federation.SISKO: Is it going to happen?PICARD: Not easily. The ruling parties are at each others throats. Factions that were united against the Cardassians have resumed old conflicts.SISKO: Sounds like they're not ready.PICARD: Your job is to do everything short of violating the Prime Directive to make sure that they are.
I also don’t get why Sisko’s dad was presented as in the right for refusing blood screening. It’s insane and just ammunition to emotionally abuse his son for being suspicious under reasonably suspicious circumstances at a time of completely justified vigilance.
>>218321899i said do better.
>>218321899The man isn't another Federation slave, he owns his own private business.
>>218321899dude you don't get it, earth is paradise and anything that disrupts the non-stop fun and relaxation is bad
>>218321887probably bargaining with cardies over (shitty) treaties at that point
>>218321753>arm bajorans>link up with feds>feds say wtf no we aren’t going back to war with Cardassia over Bajor, who tf are you anyways? >feds deliver you to the Cardassian government per the peace treaty >you are executed and leave half a dozen children fatherless and your wife widowed>your kids don’t understand why you abandoned them for weird religiously zealous aliens and probably grow up hating themyou really do seem like you’d enjoy nutrek though, not even saying that as an insult
>>218321753>just betray Cardasia Not only the Order but your own troops and officers would kill you before any success
a star trek heart of darkness where a rogue cardie becomes the leader of an army of bajoran savages would be kino
>>218321994>Garak using the opportunity to remove the whole Dukat bloodline from existence
They should have leaned harder into Sisko becoming the emissary, one of my favorite episodes is where he becomes almost a prophet until they fix his brain aneurysm or whatever and I wish Sisko started becoming more and more back to that kind of prophet as the show went on. Instead it seems like he doesn't really give a shit about being the emissary but still gets to be one I guess.
>>218322135He should’ve started wearing the earrings
>>218322178You know a brotha ain't going to be caught dead wearing that shit around the crew
>>218321899i have trouble keeping the timeline straight because the saga drags on for too long. were the blood tests before or after they figured out they could disrupt changelings with a quantum stasis field or poloran radiation? in any case Im sure it was after they learned that changelings need to reset their form everyday so the feds should have at least given the old man a choice to submit to observation for a day.
>>218322135if they did that he would need to leave starfleet and ds9 is already woefully lacking in starfleet
>>218322450>i have trouble keeping the timeline straightthat's putting it mildly.
man no one ever talks about how MY favorite character is nuanced and multifaceted unless I bring it up first :(
You could just wait to see if somebody takes a shit to tell if they're a changeling or not.
>>218322544a changeling could fake that
>>218322450much after the cardies tortured odo with the device but idk if that ever got anywhere and was rediscovered elsewhere
The dominion should’ve been more grey. I liked the few episodes when Kira was getting on board with the arrangement until Kai Winn called her an apologist >peace and prosperity for all via OVERWHELMING FORCEis an interesting concept
>>218322574by stealing real shit and holding it in their body until the shit test?
Which episode was it where Worf was complaining to Odo about station security on DS9, says it would have never happened on the Enterprise, and then Odo gets the biggest grin ever as he lists every time the Enterprise was taken over in TNG?
>>218322702no they can make it look like they're shitting. the turds would remain connected to their main body with imperceptible filaments like how you can make shit look like it's floating with fishing wire or whatever.
>>218322703Hippocratic oath
>>218322726>Flushes toiletUH OH
>>218322750what happens if a gooback loses a significant portion of goo? do they lose a piece of their identity? do they get a little dumber?
>>218322750>>Flushes toiletwait until turds are out of sight down the hole and convert everything into the invisible filament and reconstitute it with the main body.literal shit test: passed.
>>218322703>>218322730Bar Association, actually
>>218322703Bar Association
>>218321899Nice try, FBI. Get a warrant.
>>218322391>The new SpockNever fails to crack me up!
>>218322778Too bad they already blew their Flowers for Algernon episode on Barclay.
>>218322391What about Mike Dorn as Lieutenant Woof?
>>218323164as if star trek has ever shied away from doing the same episode multiple times
>>218322802>federation plumbing instantly reconstitutes your fake shit and serves it to Nog using his dorm’s replicator to produce Cram Session Protein Ration No. 654
I'm pretty sure that in the Federation lower class citizens get their stuff replicated from the lowest grade stuff (shit, piss, spunk, etc.)
>>218323151The same things get posted a lot in these threads.
>>218323463Nog always gets shafted
In a slightly darker DS9 they could have a someone drink a changeling and then it shape shifts around his spinal column and muscle structure to pilot him like a marionette. They’d dry to sedate him or stun him and he’d keep moving like a cordycep zombie until they have to use the season 1 TNG phaser setting to skeletonize him and they see this translucent series of filaments fleeing his charred bones and trying to escape by shapeshifting into a bird or something and dying halfway through.
>>218323482>lower classNot Roddenbury's vision, faggot. All are equal.
>>218323549But they aren't. Just look at how Starfleet steam rolls their decisions over lesser officers and common citizens. Sisko even enacted martial law on Earth against their consent. There is obviously a power gap.
>>218323542this is really fucking retarded idea when changelings can already perfectly copy people and act as them while the real person is dead/in prison. which is kind of the whole fucking point of shapeshifting.
>>218323590Woah, easy there buddy.
>>218323542If DS9 was slightly darker then you wouldn't be able to see anything on the screen
>>218323590Not really since it gets around all the screening measures they came up with to deal with that.
with the magic of special effects we could have star trek sex between shran and weyoun
>>218323202He's not there because he was cast later than the rest of the cast.
>>218323611no because someone having their body piloted against their will is much more conspicurous and obvious than someone who is a seamless doppleganger who you can only detect with invasive blood tests which they can refuse, falsify and/or get around doing in other ways
>>218323676unless they write the script so it isnt
Star Trek should just be non-stop gore.
>>218323700also muscle movement is mostly chemical reactions you can't really pilot an entire body just by squeezing on your spinal cord or whatever the fuck. your idea is fucking stupid.
>>218323724Unless they write it so it isn’t
>>218323721You want to see Starfleet ensigns die horribly for no good reason?
>>218323951This series was far too dark for my taste, to this day DS9 is the only Trek property that did "Dark Star Trek" in a way that still felt congruent with Star treks tone.
It's Temporal Mechanics Tuesday
The amount of people that just get casually vaporized in Trek is horrifying. That hobo who accidentally vaporizes himself in TOS. That redshirt getting killed in the otherwise fun and silly "ATTENTION BAJORAN WORKERS" 'sode. etc. Ruins the otherwise comfy vibes of Tru-Trek. Plus the actually horrifying death like the woman who phases into the ground in an otherwise light-hearted eppy about Data trying out dating. Why do they ish like that?
>>218324097It’s also weird that they’ll spend a whole episode coping with the loss of a literal who and then like the very next week some ensign manning Wesley’s chair will get crushed like a cockroach by a living god and Picard will be like >wait… perhaps it’s just trying to communicate >maybe we can still be friends with this new lifeform
Who's the jabba of star trek?
Just rewatched Waltz. I forgot how Sisko basically annoys him into radicalizing and the writers expect the audience to just go “well he said he always knew he should have killed them all… must’ve been thinking like that the whole time” like we’re toddlers
>>218324223that orion syndicate guy who gave archer some sex slaves
>>218324223Mirror Kira
>>218323721This effect was really cool imo
>>218324225Weird take
>>218322692Fucking shut up you retarded millennial
What made them switch from dilithium back to monolithium and then back again?
>>218319661First On Race Day.https://streamable.com/u0034t
>>218324455If he had been nicer to Dukat at any point Dukat would never reach the conclusion that he should have killed them and wanted to kill them. He wouldn’t even be an antagonist in s7
>>218319661You're thinking of a Fiat, Ensign Gribble.
>>218324514>Star Wars fag pretending to be a Trekkie
>>218324596Wanting a character to be “morally grey” is tell-tale star wars fan niggatry
>>218324613A star empire is not a character.
>>218323589>SiskoDS9 was an antithesis to ToS and TNG's tone and writing. No duh Sisko said "fuck the prime directive." A lesser captain like him HAS to bypass it to get things done.
>>218324225>>218324575You're retarded and detached from reality
>>218324575Dukat desperately wanted not just Sisko but the entire bajoran people to see things his way as him being a just ruler . If Sisko played along well enough dukat would have just been satisfied with Siskos simping , killed him and then continued on the same plan as what happened but without the emissary in his way .
>>218324682Just like Dukat
>waltz explicitly has dukat's inner voices reveal all of his lies as he's lying to sisko in behr's desperate attempt to get right wing audiences to understand the story in the most blatant way>racists who watch star trek think sisko is the one who made dukat that way and that dukat is a poor innocent victim
>>218324761its not sisko. its the ungrateful bajoran scum that made dukat go mad
>>218324761>right left brain delusion syndromeMeds, reddit, etc
>>218324685If Sisko simped for him all the voices in his head would shut up. They’d talk about sports or something until they’re rescued or escape. You clearly have not a single friend who doesn’t want to discuss politics with you.
>>218324761Imagine invoking racism in a discussion of a series where different alien races are fundamentally different from each other in capabilities, temperament and behavior.
>>218324874I don't think you understand how unhinged , delousinal and obsessed Dukat is for that entire episode.
>>218324928>delousinal I don’t think lizards get lice
>>218324874>until they’re rescued or escapeDid you even watch the episode ? They aren't trapped and Dukat can leave anytime he wants on his fully functional shuttle . He brought Sisko there to play his mentally ill game and torture him . >You're friends only talk about politics ??? I don't know how to respond to this
>>218324975you didn’t even watch the episode you work for paramount
>>218324761>muh racism No he's just media illiterate and you're SJW
Seriously rewatch the episode a third time and you'll realise you missed the entire plot
>>218325050Media literacy is an altleft catwhistle
Helm, set a course for >>218325077Engage
waltz isn't interesting or complicated enough to warrant this much shitposting
>>218325069Maybe you should have a little more empathy for the mentally ill like Dukat is. I swear this kind of ableism in 2026 is so uncool
>>218325090But it's at least the 9th best Dukat episode
