Are the Warren's legit? I don't mind scary movies as long as it's transient/body/monster horror but real stories about real possessions fuck me up for reasons I'm not going to get into unless I get like 50 yous
lolno
>>218397061No, any sort of possession or demon shit is complete hogwash. Am I denying the existence of supernatural entities full-on? No, but it's very difficult to confirm they exist.
These two have gypsy carpetbag scum written all over them.
>>218397109Catholics be watching these movies and going "that really happens"lmao
>>218397109Shawn Ryan had an exorcist from the catholic church on his show recently, and it seemed very performative.
>>218397061I'm a registered Paranormal Junkie. I've never put much faith into possessions. Demon's taking over your body, levitating you off the ground, etc. That's too goofy.But attachments are a different story. I believe that a negative spirit can attach to someone and feed off them. A parasite. Just like the Warrens.
Are there any paranormal investigators who aren't batshit grifters?
>>218397128I hate when people bring up that case with the German girl from the 70s when that was clearly schizophrenia.
>>218397144See this shit I believe. I know people who genuinely turned into different human beings from the way they walk/talk/act, looking sickly/deathly ill, and then they either go on a fast or a cleanse and start attending church and it all went away. I don't know if church is holy ground or what power that actually has, but I do think those giant brass bells they ring has something to do with it.
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>>218397144>>218397180It's just psychological, not paranormal. Weakminded people can fall into bad habits and rabbit holes like pornography addiction, as an example, or drug use, and be incapable of saving themselves, as they see it. But if they believe a higher power is intervening and they start going to church and are le ~saved~ it changes their self-perception and gives them the inner strength they need to change.All psychological. church is a placebo
>>218397152There was one guy... Nick Groff.He was a founding member of Ghost Adventures but was ousted from the group. Many think it was a battle of egos. Or that he was getting to close to the truth. Either way, he's a straight shooter. If he says ghosts are real, they're real.
>>218397251>church is a placeboAfter watching all these trannies shoot up children, I think church is needed now more than ever
>>218397348Religiosity would be culturally preferable to what we have now, but that doesn't mean there's a god or a given religion is true. It just means that as humans are now, at this average IQ and this stage of evolution, we do better with a coping mechanism like religion. It's sad that we can't have both the truth and a functional society as of yet
>>218397383Preach on, brother. You ever think about starting a cult? I hear you get mad bitches.
218397206Fine, here's my three paranormal experiences that I can actually describe from my awareness point of view, told in the order they happened:1. The first one was a black dog scenario. I was a zogbot when I was younger, and one weekend a bunch of three guys I was stationed with were driving from Nashville to the Lake of the Ozarks. On this night we were specifically heading to Branson, MO. We took 55 to 60, which was faster than the full interstate but more "scenic." We got about 3 hours from Branson and it was close to midnight, probably like 11:00. I'm driving a Ford Explorer we rented, and while I'm driving I see a black lab that looked fully grown 90lbs jump right in front of the car. I slam on my brakes as we slam right into it. All 3 men in the car with me were mean as fuck paratroopers with combat experience, and not bullshitters at all they all swear they saw the same thing. We had all been drinking, but I'd only had one, and I don't think anyone was drunk. I got out of the car and looked for damage, and didn't find any. Saw no signs of a dog either. To this day, to a man, we all swear this happened. Later on, I found out about black dog mythology and how it can be an omen or whatever, but nothing that I can tell ever came of it.2. One day I couldn't find a pair of earbuds. I spent 2 hours forensically examining every square inch of my house, checking their usual spot about 50x while doing this and not finding them. I gave up and went to leave, but as I was pulling out I realized I'd forgotten my wallet, went in to get it, and the earbuds were sitting in their usual spot that I'd checked 50x. Not sure if that's paranormal or what, but I remember sitting there screaming "HOW."
>>2183972063. I had a roommate with a girlfriend back in my college years and we were all close friends. It was common for them to take turns coming going and visiting each other's homes. One day I was cleaning the kitchen and cooking breakfast while someone who clearly looked dressed like Courtney was sitting at our little two person breakfast table. I finished cooking and told her food was ready and to get my roommate out of bed. She got up, walked into his room, and shut the door. They never came out, and after waiting a few mins I knocked on the door about 20x and didn't get an answer, so I finally called my roomie who had stayed at her place that night. Neither one of them were ever in the house.Subquestion: Is it scarier to see shit that doesn't make sense or to see things that aren't really there?
>>218397251Everywhere jews go they try to have the bells removed, I genuinely think those bells ward off demonic spirits. Also the stories of jews going into nondescrated churches and feeling like they're about to have a panic attack is well documented.
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>>2183975181. It's possible you did hit the dog and adrenaline carried it out of sight as it scampered away in panic. Like deer. It's also possible you just struggled to see it at night, since it was black.2. Common mental glitch that happens where your brain thinks it already has the thing it's looking for and doesn't register them. Everyone knows the reverse situation where someone with their glasses on their face is looking for their glasses. The brain can be funny like that>>218397535Yeah no idea on this one, I'd have to be there, but unfortunately the most common reason for hallucinations is mental, not spiritual. You may have schizo tendencies
>>218397061No. With the amount of cursed objects they had one would think that someone would install cameras in the room and find concrete proof of the supernatural.
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>>218397650I always forget that reddit invented atheism circa 2014. I too am intellectually limited to exclusively online context and memes
>>218397535Isn't it possible your friends were fucking with you?
>>218397648>someone would install cameras in the room and find concrete proof of the supernatural.we're working on it, bitch!if u don't believe get the fuck out of this thread otherwise I'm gonna fucking summon... z0Zo
>>218397061The movies are very much fake and very much standard tropey horror, I think it would be pretty hard to be scared of them much beyond le jump scares.
>>218397648>>218397725Wow they made annabelle look much scarier in the movie kek
>>218397251I don’t entirely disagree, but this is also a cynical 4chan asshole take. You don’t have to be a devout believer to benefit from the positive communal support that the church can offer to people going through addiction issues and such.
>>218397737The average person cries with awe when watching War Machine. Tropey horror scares the shit out of them, trust meI had a girlfriend who couldn't sleep for a week after seeing Insidious lol
>>218397789>War MachineHow was this?
>>218397647>>218397710No they definitely weren't at the house because I met up with them at her place later. She was as real as my keyboard sitting in my lap is.
>>218397770They always do this and it's actually counter-productive. Did the same thing with IT, making Pennywise obviously a monster, when IT is a textbook example of one of the most fundamental scare tactics in horror: things where they shouldn't belong.So a clown in a sewer. The reason that's so spine chilling as a concept is because clowns don't belong in sewers. When you read/see that you get gooseflesh because you already know something is very wrong.Now what isn't as scary? A monster in a sewer. Why? Because monsters can be anywhere. I'm not surprised if I see a monster sitting on top of a lightpole, or flying over treetops. They're scary in the way a grizzly bear is scary. They're just powerful creatures that can harm you. But not scary in the way great horror is scary. This is why the Tim Conway IT mogs.Similarly, they made Annabelle an obviously fucked up monster doll. No. What's scary about a doll like Annabelle is when a doll is doing something dolls aren't supposed to do. The innocent inanimate object becomes a deeply malevolent source of terror when it starts walking down the hallway in the middle of the night.
>>218397647I just don't see how I could have hit a dog that size doing 65 and have no damage or blood anywhere. That thing should have been vaporized. Didn't feel the car hit anything either. I told this to a therapist one time and she said in the summer when you're tired and you've been on the road for awhile your brain responds different to certain exposures, and that heat/light/shadows can play tricks on the mind when their depth changes in the headlights. I thought that was interesting, but it was still crazy that all four of us saw the same thing.
>>218397864Kek, the trope in horror movies where the main character’s daughter is delighted by the idea of taking this creepy ass doll home with them always makes me laugh.
>>218397840Nigga you think I watched that shit
For a somewhat modern and nuanced take on the phenomenon of demonic possession, I can recommend a few booksPeople of the Lie and Glimpses of the Devil by M Scott PeckHostage to the Devil by Malachi MartinThe Believer's Deliverance Handbook by David ChapmanPeck's book are kind of fascinating. He was a clinical psychologist (and author of the popular self-help book The Road Less Traveled). He converted to Catholicism fairly late in his life and ended up under the tutelage of Malachi Martin, who was a Catholic priest that performed many exorcisms in his career. Peck ended up performing a few exorcisms on some of his psychotherapy clients and documented those cases in Glimpses of the Devil.The Believer's Deliverance handbook presents 7 progressive stages of demonic possession and backs up its claims primarily with bible verses. I found it an interesting read because while it is based on the bible, it presents its position in a non-dogmatic way, and its seven stages are a progression that could be attributed to plain old mundane banality of evil or abnormal psychology. Ultimately all these books say that demonic possession is something a person has to choose over time. It's not a demon forcibly invading a person like a disease or parasite.I'm not making any claim at all, but this is a subject of interest for me and like I said I can highly recommend those four books for those who are also interested.As for the Warrens, they were probably hacks. The idea of cursed objects and associated possessions and hauntings are entirely the realm of superstition and have no basis in any kind of sophisticated theology or mainstream religion. It has no basis in what the Catholic church or the bible has to say about possession, and afaik those are still the modern authority on the subject.
>>218397934>He was a clinical psychologist. He converted to CatholicismRight, so he drank the Kool-Aid and was compromised. Many such casesWhat would be interesting is a secular respected doctor giving his take on demonic possession while maintaining unbelief, but those cases aren't talked about as much because most of the time it's predictably: yeah, that person had mental issues
>>218397864>>218397920I think it was a rights issue with Hasbro. Why split the profits when you can make Raggedy Ann just a random old doll. Only oldfags like me know the difference.Ass for which doll looks "creepier", that's anon's whole point. If my Fraggle Rock doll came to life and tried to kill me? Horrifying. My Pet Monster? Not so much.
>>218397109The Maurice Thierault video is convincing. It's vhs so the image isn't that sharp, but you can see his skin spontaneously cracking and bubbling. Also he's heavily salivating and the spit turns to blood when it hits his shirt. The Thierault exorcism was sabctioned by the Catholic Church and was unsuccessful. Thierault committed suicide.
I possessed OP's mom's vagina last night and she was all OH GOD OH GOD so yeah it's real.
>>218398105STFU Rahul you will never get pussy
>>218397061"Ed Warren" seems to be a believer He Directed and co-wrote The Red Door (Insidious). Even did a song for it played during the credits. He's a stage actor originally. Used to fuck Jennifer Love Hewitt before he became famous. She was dating Rich from LFO at the time AND some dude from 98°. JLH bought them both promise rings from Tiffany's. If anyone deserves to be haunted, it's that bitch.
>>218398143>LFONow that’s a cursed group that you don’t hear about much.
>>218397972Clinical psychology already operates in a very cult-like manner, so if you ask me he drank the kool aid when he chose his career, then again when he became an exorcist. There are all kinds of ethical issues with what he did. He faced a lot of criticism for it and rightfully so. So did Malachi Martin for that matter.The best example of what you're looking for I would say is Jerry Marzinsky. He is a retired clinical psychiatrist who worked in inpatient hospitals and the prison system. This isn't the same subject as demonic possession, but he came to the conclusion that the symptoms of schizophrenia are caused by what he calls "energetic parasites." He does make some extraordinary claims, but he also has some extraordinary stories about his experiences with clients once he changed his approach to treatment.He goes on a circuit of small podcasts and says pretty much the same thing on all of them, so if you listen to one interview of him you've heard most of what he says on them. He wrote a book on it called An Amazing Journey Into the Psychotic Mind.>>218398109There are conflicting accounts on why he left the church. He has been painted a huckster and plagiarist by some and the target of a Jesuit conspiracy by others. Honestly I never committed that whole history to memory so I couldn't tell you for sure. The fact that he coached a psychologist to conduct exorcisms makes me skeptical of him, but the raw materials he presented are nonetheless very interesting. Demons and entities are not exactly things you can study with the scientific method so extensive firsthand accounts are about as good as it gets.
*Maurice TheriaultHere's the vid:>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kovLoOFAIZMSomething's wrong with his eyes. It's like the pupils change shape into a goat's.
>>218398171>LFOThere's only one way to reach them now...Seriously, they're all dead.
Fedora tipping aside, yes, it's very much real. People will psychobabble copes all day but it's telling that most of what people would attribute to "insanity" manifest as very clearly calculated malevolent behavior. People meticulously plan and execute actions that take a level of cognizance that is hard to square with a complete disconnect with reality.But of course, the general public would rather rationalize these individuals as abnormally high functioning lunatics rather than face the possibility of an ailment that's spiritual rather than psychological.
>>218398450The Catholic Church is the most cinematic with their priest robes and gothic architecture.
I must be huffing on this thread's fumes because I'm starting to get scaredYou guys know that they sell Ghost Hunting apps online right? I've seen them work, but idk "how" they work. Why don't one of you download an EVP app and try it in the scariest room of your house?
>>218398450I'm sure there are culturally specific interpretations of such events assuming they're not influenced by Christianity. Another interpretation might be that those not body to the Church are seen as less desirable targets for spiritual warfare. It would be like America nuking a random 3rd world village during the cold war; an unproductive waste of resources
>>218398499Ghosts aren't demons and any "technology" used to combat spiritual entities are a scam. If you're really concerned, buy a crucifix for your bedroom and stay away from vices.
>>218398506Demonic possession would be counter-productive regardless, since it's an open demonstration that the devil exists and would push non-believers to convertingIf the devil did exist he would be smart enough to strictly forbid possessions. One good recording of a clearly demonically possessed person levitating and shooting lasers from their eyes and it's game over
>>218398450Because Western Christian civilization has dominated the globe. Africa and China and other cultures have their own concepts of possession and rituals to expel entities, but they're just not part of our zeitgeist.Look into this if you're interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Corpses
>>218398506That actually makes sense. If the purpose of spiritual warfare was to corrupt and denegrate then possessing some inbred shit colored subhuman from a conquered tribe of rape babies wouldn't really do anything.
>>218398175>Demons and entities are not exactly things you can study with the scientific methodWhy not?
>>218398539There's no redemption for me. For /tv/ is my /terrible vice/. It's yours too, I'm afraid. I think the church calls it Gluttony. Too much of a good thing.If I'm destined to walk this mortal plane as a ghost, then so be it. I'll still post here after I'm gone.
>>218398623Neither would possessing a non-believer (Christians believe the saved can't be possessed) in a Christian country, since they were already damned
>>218398601>it's an open demonstration that the devil exists and would push non-believers to convertingNot if there's plenty of people willing to convince themselves/each other that other explanations exist >One good recording of a clearly demonically possessed person levitating and shooting lasers from their eyes and it's game overThere have been dozens of miracles attested to by tens of thousands of people and many scientifically verified instances of inexplicably bleeding hosts. People believe what they want to believe and it goes both ways.
>>218398667Because they cannot be directly observed, recorded, or measured.
>>218398675Dumb cope. If there was solid video evidence of an obvious possession like your "dozens of miracles attested to by tens of thousands of people" rather than just "believe me bro", people would have no choice but to believe. Nobody is going to watch an IRL version of the Exorcist and be like "nah that's schizophrenia"
>>218398667NTA, but the spiritual and material are separate things. Same reason consciousness essentially doesn't exist from a purely empirical perspective >There's no redemption for meVery untrue.
>>218398699Contemporarily, the Church utilizes psychologists to rule out mental illness long before an exorcist is even considered for the exact reasons they allow scientific analysis of suspected miracles. I'd encourage you to look into such cases.
Does the modern church still do exorcisms? When was the last exorcism they did?
>>218398699Actual accounts of possession don't involve people levitating or their heads spinning around. Supposed supernatural phenomena are not things you'd see in a movie or comic book. Those are fiction. The actual accounts are of more subtle things.
>>218398759That’s something I’ve always appreciated about the first Exorcist movie. It shows how they would actually treat Reagan using modern science and psychology rather than having her immediately crawling up the walls and stuff.
>>218398782Quite often but it's done in relative secrecy.
>>218398759I'm aware of that, but you should be aware they only do that for legal reasons. If they tried to "exorcise" someone with classifiable mental issues and they deteriorated they'd be legally liable. It's not because on their end they're trying to be scientifically rigorous.And there are a lot of mental issues that aren't precisely diagnosable yet. We didn't even know Tourrette's was a thing until a few decades ago. Someone can be acting crazy as shit and not necessarily be something a psychiatrist can diagnose beyond "nigga needs help". And it may be the kind of crazy that is subconsciously (rather than cynically) performative and capable of being "cured" by placebo.It's more nuanced than "psychologists looked at the patient and couldn't figure it out so the priests did magic and healed her!"
>>218398804Why? They don't want the media getting involved? How come we know about all the prior cases then?
>>218398790Conveniently the magic demons only exercise their supernatural presence through the limits of seeming like crazy humans
>>218398844Historically, and this is something you do see in media, one of the main markers of a possession is a person possessing knowledge they could not have learned. Nobody is claiming anything which would be supernatural or defy the laws of nature.
>>218398831>It's not because on their end they're trying to be scientifically rigorousTwo things can be true at once. What liability would the Church face if they disallowed scientific examination of eucharistic miracles? None. >capable of being "cured" by placeboWhat, because psychologists are unaware of the placebo effect? Pretty sure they're aware of the phenomenon. >It's more nuanced than "psychologists looked at the patient and couldn't figure it out so the priests did magic and healed her!"I never said it wasn't nuanced. But in the many instances in which that has happened, the efficaciousness speaks for itself. If you want to rationalize it as placebo, that's fine, but it doesn't really detract from the fact that it worked.
>z0Zo has possessed this threadAll the deleted posts were cursed!
>>218397864Does Annabelle actually ever walk down the hallway in the movie? I haven't seen it but I just watched the trailer and it looks like the spirit inside Annabelle is the one that attacks, not Annabelle herself even though imo that would be scarier if done well and scarier if the doll was ordinary like you said. You can spoiler the answer in case anyone wants to watch it.
>>218398842I'm not 100% sure but I imagine they don't want to turn a vulnerable person's life into a circus. In addition to that, the public in general sees exorcism as a medieval, superstitious practice and I get the sense that the Church is a bit wary of projecting that image to a secularized population, regardless of it's efficaciousness.
>>218398935iirc you never see her actually move until Annabelle Comes Home
>>218397412>You ever think about starting a cult?A religious cult? I wonder is there any other kind of cult. Even "Dungeons & Dragons" fans were considered a cult of Devil Worshippers until wokeness saved them.
>>218398935She’s not like Chucky or anything, the doll just kind of teleports around.
>>218398964Well what's the point of the spirit possessing a doll then? It's not like they're sticking to what really happened, might as well use the character to its full potential.>>218399003Don't objects not being where there supposed to happen in like every other horror movie?
>>218399037Consequence of dramatizing a real life event. You can only strain incredulity so much. Especially when you're milking one piece of your multiverse harder than the Hobbit
>>218399037In the films Annabelle is kind of a supernatural powerhouse. She causes hallucinations, amplifies the powers of ghosts and cursed objects, possesses people who spend too much time with her, and steals babies.
Annabelle Comes Home is underrated. I like the Goosebumps style premise of "Oh no, all the ghosts and monsters got loose and we have to fix it before mom and dad get home!"
>>218399069>milking one piece of your multiverse harder than the HobbitThat's Annabelle herself right? Since there's like 3 or 4 movies about her?
>>218399115Yep. She even cameos in unrelated movies. Probably because she's the piece of Warren lore that permeated the most deeply into pop culture. I recall seeing youtube videos about her long before any of these movies were made
>>218399112I agree. A sleepover at the Warrens' where all the spooks get loose is a fantastic concept for a teen horror. It turned into a series of vignettes rather than a cohesive narrative, but it was serviceable enough. I was pleasantly surprised by it.
What are the horror movies that actually left you scared as an adult anons?
>>218399112>Goosebumps Yeah, that entry was for fucking childrenYa gotta be 18 to post here, kid
>>218399112>>218399148Well these make Annabelle comes home sound petty comfy. Are these even horror movies at this point beyond having many jump scares?
>>218399152I still get a little spooked thinking about a spanish horror movie called Voces I watched several years ago
>>218399166Were the first couple Conjuring movies rated R? It’s been a while since I’ve seen them, but I don’t recall any gore or violence that would make it not PG-13.
>>218399152saw "The Sixth Sense" in theaters w/o spoilers (didn't have the internet as it is now)I was legit shook and fooled by the twistfrom then on, if I think someone I'm talking to is a ghost...I stab themthe only way to know for sure
>>218399187oh yeah. There are plenty of atmospheric horror films coming out. A24 in particular has gone all in on that, and we've got Hokum coming out later this year, which will be a slow burn folk horror ghost story kind of thing. The writer director also made Oddity and Caveat, which were recent. That said, I think the best horror movies all came out in the 70s.The Annabelle movies are ok. The original The Conjuring is the best film in the whole franchise, though. I'll also say The Nun was surprisingly good, but The Nun 2 was awful.
>>218399248Nun sucks.
>>218399274It fell apart at the end but everything leading up to it was eerie and well executed
>>218399248I was talking about the conjuring universe films. Yeah I've seen the first one but I don't remember it all that well.
>>218397061spoiler alert none of its real you pussy, ive done all the supernatural haunted shit ouiji board bloddy mary abandoned buildings with dark history etc. nothing happened
>>218399221The sixth sense is a very good movie imo, but did it really leave you with lasting fear?
>>218399274>>218399285I’m a sucker for creepy church/castle in a rural European setting
>>218399288I misread "these" as "there." The Nun and Annabelle films are all in The Conjuring universe. There's a Conjuring prequel in development too.
All the shit people believe is le demons and possessions and shit is actually aliens.
>>218399327They also still haven’t done Amityville Horror with the Warrens. I think it was just eluded to in one of the Conjurings.
>>218399298Based. Do you believe in anything supernatural at all or have you ever had a supernatural experience?
>>218399352Yeah the opening sequence of 2 or 3 showed the Warrens in the attic of the Amityville house, but they never did the whole thing. We may get it one day though since they're milking this franchise for all it's worth. Supposedly Vera Farmiga and Patrick Wilson are done with it though.
>>218399152Blair Witch originalHereditaryI think that's basically it.
>>218399274The second is literally the worst movie I've ever seen, not kidding
>>218399415yeah it was atrocious
>>218399395>Blair Witch originalI get why that would be scary, especially pre-internet and with the marketing campaign they did with it. Haven't seen hereditary yet.
>>218399298I'm also a nonbelieving materialist but I refuse to touch a Ouija board because my sane mom hot insisted all my life that one time she did Oujia and was haunted by a demon that would stand by her bed. She described it as pure black, like just a void in the shape of a person. I thought for most of life it was just a spooky story, one day my friend said he saw a demon when he was a kid. I asked what it looked like, he said pure black, like a void in the shape of a person. That was when I decided that even if I have my doubts, I'm not going to fuck with anything and tempt fate. Even if religions are fiction, we still live in a world we don't understand and it's wise not to meddle. Just to be safe
>>218399317Fair point. It left me with "something" that I couldn't describe at the time. When it comes to kino, it left a mark.But something that fucked me up watching it? Apparently,>PoltergeistDo not click on this spoiler, it's too scary!!!I warned you.
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>>218399441Hereditary is a genuine classic, give it a watch. It's rare for a movie to be as unsettling
>>218399455>because my sane mom hotWhat's going on here
>>218399152None. Im not scared of images on a screen.Inb4 >hur during tough guy You're just a faggot.
>>218399475Wow, I totally forgot that there was a shitty Poltergeist remake. That’s a perfect example of what >>218397864 was saying. What kid would want that thing in their room?
>>218399511Based, what about books, music, any other media except video games? I think those are much easier to be scared of because of the interactive element.
>>218399507Yeah you heard me.No, I meant to say my sane mom HADlol
I haven't watched the ring movies yet, where should I start? I know the basic story, have they made a sequel where instead of a VHS it's an unlisted YouTube video and she crawls out of smartphones and shit?
>>218399585lol yeah she comes out of a smartphone in Rings. Just start at the beginning with The Ring. It's great.
>>218399611Isn't the ring a remake of the Japanese original or something though?
>>218397383>I am too LE EUPHORIC for religion>*uses Christian morality as a foundation*Gaytheists are subhumans who are too stupid to understand why.
>>218399631You're literally just a midwit who can't into his point at all, actually. Many such ChristtardsHe's saying that Christian morality is preferable for society right now because people aren't constitutionally capable of handling the nihilism of reality. This is not contradictory to being an atheist.
>>218399624Yes, there's a Japanese film series based on some Japanese novels. The two film series are very different. As with any horror franchise, the original films in each series are the best ones. However The Ring is much better than the Japanese original Ringu imo.
>>218397144My old house is “haunted,” but the nature of what’s haunting it is entirely up for grabs. It’s either some sort of attachment that I managed to shed or it’s my own externalized grief/anger/misery from the darkest part of my life. It breaks things and makes the house abnormally dark and shadowy. The lady I sold the house to scoffed when I gave her fair warning about it, but she’s a believer now.
>>218399682>makes the house abnormally dark and shadowySpooky. Can you give some examples of this that you’ve experienced?
>>218397061>Are the Warren's legit? Legit how? They were notorious fraudsters who exploited kids with mental illnesses and repackaged their problems as paranormal to sell books and interviews. Ed was a abusive angry drunk, who had an ongoing relationship with a 15 year old girl.
>>218397061this movie is better than the exorcist
>>218399696It’s hard to explain, but it’s like you could replace every bulb in the house with the highest wattage you can find, and it still feels/looks unusually dim, dark, and shadowy, like all the surfaces are absorbing more light than they should. Anywhere a shadow is cast, it just looks darker than you’d expect. The lady who lives there now got a little obsessed with it and painted every room the brightest, cheeriest colors she could find, but it didn’t make any difference.
>>218399682I have a pesky poltergeist that follows me personally rather than haunting a specific location. It'll do things like slam my bedroom door behind me when I want to leave it open, and I have come back and open it and be like "really nigga, behave". And then it'll slide my papers off my desk
>>218399888Have you considered you might be telekinetic? I think that’s the going theory on what causes poltergeist activity.
>>218399742>Ed was a abusive angry drunk, who had an ongoing relationship with a 15 year old girl.and?
>>218399788This sounds just like dreams I have where everything is very dim and light switches never seem to do anything. There’s usually not even anything scary involved like I’m being chased or anything, I’m just trying to turn some lights on.
>>218399963Oh piss off. You're basically an episode of "Sightings" trying to debunk the paranormal while promoting the paranatural. You're a filthy carnie just like the Warrens.Read this book and wake up to reality! Ghost are real. And ghost shows/movies are kino.
>>218400003>paranaturalI just invented that for my next book! So don't steal it or I'll sue you like Discovery tried suing me.
>>218400003I’m not pushing for one over the other, just saying that with shit like this, there can be more than one possible explanation.
>>218398408No evidence will persuade them, not matter how convincing and irrefutable, because the implication that God exists and that salvation and damnation are real is too scary for them to contemplate. The modern world raises people to be intensely superficial, selfish and fragmented in their thinking. This causes them to lose their shit when they are prompted to contemplate supernatural things.
>>218399963It's possible, I've shown indisputable psychic activity before, nothing exciting thoughbeit
>>218400110I like your honesty, anon. You'd never make it in the real world. But on 4chan, you're gold, Ponyboy. AMA
>>218400172Such as? I'm curious. How is it indisputable yet also not exciting?
>>218399985Another detail I left out is that the whole house makes people feel claustrophobic. One prospective buyer asked, “Why are the ceilings so low?” And I told him that they were all 10’ on both floors, and 20’ in the living room, dining room, and kitchen. He wouldn’t believe me until I broke out the measuring tape, and then he was just like, “Huh …” and remained visibly uneasy.
>>218398143The hype behind this scene never made sense to me. It wasnt scary moment nor wasnt any more memorable than any other He is behind you! scene in horror movies.
