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>>218412875
First for King Daemon Blacfyre, first of his name.
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>>218412968
>What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bastard? I’ll have you know I was knighted first out of all the squires in the Red Keep, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Blackfyre usurpers, and I have over 300 confirmed slayings. I am trained in Dornish warfare and I’m the top archer in all the Southron kingdoms. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will snuff out your bastard bloodline with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that rubbish to me with a raven’s letter? Think again, bastard. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the Seven Kingdoms and all of your traitorous secrets will be revealed so you better prepare for the storm, turncloak. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your “life”. You’re fucking dead, boy. My cousin Lord Bloodraven can be anywhere, anytime, and he can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with Dark Sister. Not only is my house extensively seasoned in the art of warfare, but we have access to the entire arsenal and martial talent of the Kingsguard, the Goldcloaks, and all the leal Great Houses of the Realm and we will use them to their full extent to wipe your bastard’s ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the iron price, you godsdamned idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it, like we drowned your false king Daemon in a rain of arrows on the Redgrass Field. You’re fucking dead, bastard.
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Thoughts on this "post season 8" scenario where everything goes to shit?
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LORD ASHFORD FUCKS HIS SHEEP
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>northeros
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>>218412982
grayscale is magic and when someone who is infected gets burned it goes postal and Shireen and Jon Con are supposed to explode into plague nukes I think
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Just watched the whole thing these last 2 nights. Pretty kino desu. I thought I wouldn't enjoy anything in this universe again, didn't bother with HOTD because it looked shit. Is it as good as dunk? Might read the books again because I'm getting the jitters that I haven't felt since 2015

I fucking love this shit bros
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>>218413233
hotd s1 = got s6-7
hotd s2 = got s8
If you must, stop watching after s1ep8
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>>218413233
It's quite shite
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>>218412968
I cannot stress enough how shit Bittersteel’s sigil is.
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>>218413233
>Is it as good as dunk?
No. First season is meh with some good elements like the Viserys actor's performance. Second season is just atrocious, and the third somehow looks worse.
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>>218412875
Do you guys have a map with the names of the countries?

Also, why is the land around Kings Landing so coveted? I'd move to one of the islands because you know what? Ice zombies can't swim.
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>Do you guys have a map with the names of the countries?
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>>218413330
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>>218413330
https://x.com/WesterosCraft
here you go lil bro
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>>218413353
>>218413361
>>218413388
Thank you
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>>218413330
IIRC Dragonstone used to be the seat of the crown but I forget why the targs moved to the mainland.
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>>218413407
Wait, no ody answered...
>Also, why is the land around Kings Landing so coveted? I'd move to one of the islands because you know what? Ice zombies can't swim.

The Summer Islands looks like a great place to wait out the Winter. Why didn't everyone move there?
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>>218413439
>Ice zombies can't swim
>Dead things in the wood. Dead things in the water. Six ships left, of the eleven that set sail. Jon Snow rolled up the parchment, frowning. Night falls, he thought, and now my war begins.
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>>218413439
Shae kinda cute bros… brb might fall in love
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>>218413423
I think dragonstone was just the first place aegon the conqueror landed

You might be thinking that dragonstone was historically the seat of the first in line to the throne under the targ dynasty

It's why stannis was given it when Bobby b became king
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>>218413519
I thought so too but then why tf did they name King’s Landing as such?
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The summer isles have things worse than wights and giant spiders
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>>218412875
what are the odds AKOSK success motivates the fat man to continue the Dunk and Egg series?
Those are novellas so they should be easier to write, right?
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>>218413533
Bad phrasing on my part. I don't remember this ever being explained but I think after the OG targs left valyria they chilled on dragonstone for a bit before deciding to conquer the mainland
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>It takes a woman to rule. An Aegoetha, not an Egg. Kill the boy and let the tranny be born
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>>218412665
why? middle aged men can be clean shaven too
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>>218413464
>Isle of Women
All joking aside! Why in the fuck didn't anybody move to "sex island"?!

Was it ever mentioned in the book(s)? I feel like this is a huge fucking plot hole.
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>>218413580
Cersei mentioned Robert wanted to conquer it so he could suck on black boobs.
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>>218413576
>made him white
amerimutts really think spain is a vantablack dark as coal nigger country
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>>218413561
Probably. Anything to avoid having to write winds
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>>218401806
mirror pls sers
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>>218413590
>“Jalabhar Xho?” Cersei gave a derisive snort. “Begging her for gold and swords to win his homeland back, most like.” Beneath his jewels and feathers, Xho was little more than a wellborn beggar. Robert could have put an end to his importuning for good with one firm “No,” but the notion of conquering the Summer Isles had appealed to her drunken lout of a husband. No doubt he dreamt of brown-skinned wenches naked beneath feathered cloaks, with nipples black as coal. So instead of “No,” Robert always told Xho, “Next year,” though somehow next year never came.
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>>218413590
Oh! There's black people in the Summer Isles? That explains it. I'd rather go to the Wall then (no blacks).
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>>218413609
Why would Robert need a foreign distant place to see black women? They're just as native to westeros as anyone else
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>>218413609
new word
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>>218413598
I do not blame him.
Writing a story with 50 POVs is fucking nightmare.
Every POV character needs their own supporting cast and half the POVs are just pointless.
Why the god did he insist on including all of them?
He could have written spin-off series that followed events in Dorne or something
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>>218413519
>>218413533
Dragonstone was essentially the Targaryen holiday home; it was in their possession when they were still based in Valyria before they fled when they had the dream about Valyria’s destruction. King’s Landing is just that: the first place Aegon landed when he decided he’d conquer Westeros. He set up a castle on the mainland as a base of operations and then it just developed into the capital after he had subjugated the island. I think World of Ice and Fire mentions that Aegon had considered making Oldtown the capital but picked King’s Landing because of how close it was to Dragonstone.
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>>218413676
just kill more characters or combine POVs together like Tyrion travelling with Catelyn

this is elementary book writing 101, this old shit has done it before
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>>218412875
>upside down Russia
>big tilted Greenland
>deformed Greece
>upside down Ireland stitched to deformed England
Bravo, obese incest-fetisihist boomer
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>>218413640
Because they’re not.
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>>218413741
Could have fooled me
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>>218413720
I never got this type of critique towards fantasy maps. So what? How does this affect the narrative in any way that isn't positive?
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the summer isles needs missionaries to convert to the faith of the seven, i volunteer to go
https://www.youtube.com/@TVYABANTU
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>>218413764
I like to think after the events of Dunk & Egg there is a mass exile and extermination of Summer Islanders which is why by the time of GoT they’re basically nonexistent in Westeros and banished. Perhaps an ASOIAF version of ICE.
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what's a good name for a northern house?

setting up an ASOIAF campaign and looking for ideas.
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>>218413821
House Gravy.
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>>218413439
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>>218413550
Black people?
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There's no way these fan maps are size-accurate, right?
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>>218413862
why?
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>>218413821
Falstaff
Walton
Hargrave
Pinewatch
Wernell
Olmstead
Strong (in German)
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>>218413862
>The Wall doesn’t extend all the way to the sea
Bravo, George.
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>>218413890
The watch has a small navy >>218413507
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>>218413890
The builders couldn’t finish because hot other bitches kept luring them into the wild to fuck and kill them.
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>>218413862
Think of it like Greenland. Pretty big technically, but most of it is worthless
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>>218412875
>fake map
Faggot
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Why does Lord Ashford fuck his sheep?
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>>218414167
He's welsh
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>>218414167
They are sheep wargs. It's all a conspiracy
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Robb should have been the one who married Joffrey instead of Sansa, it would solve a lot of problems for everybody involved
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>>218414198
The brute of Brappen
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>>218413464

According to the Summer Islanders, they had no ocean going ships in olden days, just small canoes and such to get from island to island thus they weren't aware of the rest of Planetos, until the Ghiscari showed up just a few thousand years ago.

Which reinforces my theory that Planetos was settled in our future by genetically enhanced humans from Earth.
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>>218414198
Why the cringe attempts at puerile humor that don't fit the tone of the show at all?
They're so blatant in their stupidity it's almost like they're making fun of that type of humor, but I know HBO so that certainly isn't the case.
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>>218414241
>Which reinforces my theory that Planetos was settled in our future by genetically enhanced humans from Earth.
Crackpot headcanoning, this isn't science fiction, fuckwit
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>>218413353
wheres valyria
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>>218414305
science fiction and fantasy are the same thing
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>>218413533
>I thought so too but then why tf did they name King’s Landing as such?

The Targaryens already had a foothold on the mainland with some small houses, while the region around the Blackwater regularly traded hands in battles between the Durrandons and Ironborn (who controlled the Riverlands at the time).
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>>218414167
He was fostered in the Vale and learned their customs
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>>218414314
here
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where were Stannis and Renly fostered / squired
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It’s actually insane how good the writing was in seasons 1 - 4 . The sets. The armor. The dialogue. The subtle hints.
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George really should have put the iron islands on the East side of Westeros lol
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>>218414433
probably stayed home or in greenstone
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>>218414257
That’s such a perceptive question I can’t believe nobody has mentioned in this general at all
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Seasons 1 and 4 were so good that every scene on YouTube has like 5 million views or more
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Varys is a mermaid
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>>218413793
It shows laziness, and evidently we all realized how lazy he is by not finishing the damned book in 15 years.
For a realistic map, It doesn't take much to draw random mountain ranges and drawing continents around them in different shapes. If a geographic feature is key to the plot, consult a geography professor - most will probably help for free, and if they charge money it won't be much.
>>218414401
That's not what I was criticizing, dumbass. Learn to read.
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>>218414459
Thank you.
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>>218414497
>it shows laziness
No it doesn't and you and all your friends on the /tg/ worldbuilding thread will never EVER make a compelling narrative that anyone on the planet will ever read. NEVERRRRRRRRRR. EVER.
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>>218414314
>wheres valyria

It's a smoking hellscape of magical radiation.
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>>218414497

That's exactly what you were criticizing, retard. Learn not to be stupid.
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>>218414537
I want a movie about the Doom
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>>218414486
Nah he’s a blackfyre which actually explains a lot
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>>218413330
i havet seen show this yet is the guy on the right a fusion between varys and tyroin?
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>>218414565
I was criticizing the fact he just copied existing geographic regions. Your map makes fun of criticisms that make fun of unrealistic geographic features - it is usually posted against critiques of the LOTR maps. You're a dim witted moron sitting on top of mount stupid.
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>>218414633
yes
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>>218414605
Illaryo is a bf from the female side
Varys is just his ally
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>>218414652
>oh my science does the author not know this mountain range would change wind directions in such a way that the development of crops would be difficult
Things no one has ever said while reading a book
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Stop raping ser
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>>218414695
Yeah, including me, that's why I never made that criticism. You keep replying to me as if I made that criticism several times already. Go on, give me another (You) showing how completely retarded you are.
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I fought I lost Now I rest. But you? Lord Snow. You will be fighting there wars until the end
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>>218414742
I only replied to you this one post though, you're talking to multiple people. All schizophrenic. You're schizophrenic too.
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Distinct lack of thatch roofs in these shows
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>>218412982
Wouldn't work because it has something bad happen to Bronn.
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If Daeron's daughter hadn't been retarded, would she have been queen instead of Egg
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>>218414891
I don't think so. People would be afraid of second Dance. She would be skipped, just like Rhaenys was in previous Grand Council. It set a precedent.
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They call me Darkstar and I am of the night.
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Valarr = Valar
BRAVO Baelor
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>>218414933
A dance of eggs? Dragons already died
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>>218415040
Sure, but a civil war is still a civil war. They would want to avoid that, especially with Blackfyres still alive beyond the Narrow Sea. If they declared Fourth Blackfyre Rebellion on a divided realm instead of united one, it would went much worse.
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>you’re just a boy who’s never been with a girl

How the fuck do we respond, virgin bros? And how the hell’s she know that?
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>I was weaned on honey, Baelor. Any wasp that stings me will rue it.
aura
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>Our Blades Are Sharp
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>>218415084
Blackfyre fucking shits
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>>218415094
>Pussy ain't everything, hoe
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Chatgpt told me westeros in the WotFK era is supposed to feel rundown and depopulated because of the heeming the population took in the Dance, the plague that followed the Dance and the first blackfyre rebellion. Is that true?
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>>218415427
>Chatgpt told
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>>218415427
Yes.
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>>218415427
No, not really. Dance was around 200 years before the aGoT, and Blackfyre Rebellion around 100. The kingdoms mostly healed from old scars by now. The last big was was War of the Ninepenny Kings, and it took part on the Stepstones, so no casualities in Westerosi civilians. Robert's Rebellion did some damage, but not to the extent of the Blackfyres or Dance. In fact, you will notice that armies in main series are usually bigger than the ones from ealier centuries. There also were no big plagues since Great Spring Sickness, also around 100 years ago.

But by the time the Feast for Crows starts, Westeros is badly fucked, especially the Riverlands. WotFK was really fucking brutal, more than any other war in Westeros.
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*travels back in time to cause a plague that kills every single dark-skinned person in westeros before he was born*
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>>218415427
>Chatgpt told me
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become the dragon yourself
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>>218415553
See thats what chatgpt told me today I don’t know why it changed its tune since last month.
I mean obviously the Riverlands took a fucking but it made it sound like at the start of GoT it was far below its peak population citing the long distances and lack of towns and villages
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Better be a sex season where Dunk plows the shit out of Rohanne.
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>general is already dying
>hotd s3 soon
ITS OTTOVER
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Do the high towers suck in the books as much as the show?
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>>218415717
AI is wonky and not really reliable, i would advise you to take anything from it with a grain of salt. At the start of aGoT Westeros is definitely not depopulated at all, the problem lies somewhere else.
That is, the fatman is very famously bad with numbers and distances. For example, he says Westeros is size of South America, but it makes completely no sense at all, considering how fast people travel from location to location ,it is more like a bit bigger Britain. There are towns, but fatman usually does not put them on the maps for some reason. I suppose they are less important that house seats to the plot? I dunno. So you see the map and see Lannisport, Duskendale, Gulltown, etc... usually two or even fewer cities in each kingdom. But there are a lot of a smaller ones that simply are not marked here. This is why you can find discrepances on the internet about it. Some people can't accept it and try to make some theories to make sense from George claims, instead of simply accepting that he can't into numbers.
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>>218415832
they run the city where all the fucking maester fucking shits are
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>>218413464
being on 4chan for so long as started rubbing off on me
I was reading the lore of the Summer Islands and when I was reading the part about the special super advanced ships the Summer Islanders got that other peoples lack, I suddenly realized from the description that they are basically 16/17th century galleons. And I couldn't help thinking "but historically these ships were designed and built first by western europeans, not sub saharan africans, GRRM is making the Summer Islanders superior in this regard because of his favoritism/anti racism"
Once, this would have never occured to me while reading the lore and I wish I hadn't taken the habit to see everything in this light
fuck you, 4chan
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>See thats what chatgpt told me
it's so over for the goyim
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>>218415832
they are lannisters 2.0 during dance of the dragons but after that they are just HIGH af.
Also Slave Queen Alicent where she gangbangs with young boys is CANON
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>>218415868
>4chan gave me critical thinking skills.
irl africans couldn't even cross the strait to madagascar lol.
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>>218415893
I already knew that and if someone had made about irl history (or some period drama or historical novel) I would have called bullshit even before I started lurking and posting there
but now I see it even in scifi/fantasy
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>>218415935
> had made about irl history
sorry meant
had made the claim that africans developped oceanic travel before europeanin irl history
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>>218415427
AI ain’t Christian dammit.
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Jalabhar Xho should be played by a Ryan Gosling. It's a fantasy story so it doesn't need historical accuracy.
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why is Lys the only place in the world where Valyrian features are still common ?
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>>218415427
>>218415450
Wait, fuck, misread the post. NO LOL
Thought you were asking about the KotSK era.
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>>218416038
Because it was filled with them
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>>218412875
egg is icsh
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>>218415875
>targs in power
lol, just have the Starks consolidate everything before Aegon even makes landfall. Stark-Durrandon hybrid is a fucking monster.
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Foken love this one
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>>218416079
so were the other free cities yet today only the Lysene look Valyrian
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I SAVED THIS GENERAL
AND ALL YOUR WORTHLESS POSTS
I WILL NOT GIVE MY 3-DAY FOR JANNY’S MURDER
AND I KNOW ILL GET NO JUSTICE HERE
I DEMAND TRIAL BY COMBAT
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>>218414724
Make me
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>>218412875
I feel like Sothoryos should be a lot bigger than that.
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>>218412981
Kek. Very nice.
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>>218412875
whats west of westeros
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>>218417033
Essos. Specifically, Asshai.
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>>218417033
Aegon, Visenya and Rhaenys
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>>218417033
The east
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>>218413439
The Summer Isles are known for their nasty, exotic diseases.
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>>218417033
Sneedos. Land of farmers and gummy bears. They export Gucci loafers to westeros
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>>218417033
the Seanchan
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>>218414124
Fucking based.
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>>218415821
Hightowers never really lose their standing.
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>>218417033
Westesteros
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>>218414411
Exactly how I picture it, but beneath a much greyer sky.
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>>218414578
Meeeee too.
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>>218416587
The other Free Cities have a lot of Valyrian blood as well, mainly the ones along the southern shore of Essos, but Lys was essentially a Valyrian settlement.
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>>218416715
Kek
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>>218417033
Testosteros.
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more like trial by cum bat
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essos

aquellos
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>>218414447
> how good the writing was in seasons 1 - 4
>Play with her arshe
>WHERE ARE MY DRAGINS
>I AM SHAE THE FUNNY HOOAH
>[Retarded bug squishing noices]
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>>218414348
I don't get those fanarts that portray him as slightly bigger Balon. He's supposed to be an aurochs of a man, full of life and fury.
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>>218416969
dis nigga was given the entirety of the Reach over the many many noble descendants of Garth motherfucking Greenhand? I dont think so
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>its the episode where Daemon has to tell a riverlands petitioner the goat he bought won’t give milk because its a sheep
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>>218417832
Kek
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>>218413439
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>>218413590
>Summer Islands
Reminder that the summer isles do NOT have butterfly feaver, that is only on naath. The summer isles are free to visit for reaving, slaving, conquering, missionizing, and recreative holiday visits to learn about foreign cultures.

(Strong nsfw warning)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvfawQvP9Bo
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>>218413862
Nothing about the geography of asoiaf is accurate or makes sense, not the maps and not grrms writing. Things like territory, distance, travel time, population density and distribution, etc. It's all whack. It's part of Grrm's general problem with scale, see the size of the Wall, or the widely fluctuating worth of money etc. Grrm is not like tolkien who wrote out an calendar timeline for the appendix of lotr.
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>>218413519
The Targs from the Valyrian Freehold moved their stuff to Dragonstone a few years before the Doom. Ageon and his siblings were born on dragonstone.
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>>218418096
> Grrm is not like tolkien who wrote out a calendar timeline for the appendix of lotr.
He should have, too much stuff happened in two fucking years
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LORD ASHFORD FUCKS HIS SHEEP
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>>218414167
>Why does Lord Ashford fuck his sheep?
Because his daughter has not flowered yet.

>>218414305
>Crackpot headcanoning, this isn't science fiction, fuckwit
Google and read grrm's short story "Dark, dark were the tunnels". Westeros is a post-apocalyptic scifi world.

>>218414450
>George really should have put the iron islands on the East side of Westeros lol
I've been saying that for years. But it's too late now. Mayhaps grrm can learn from his worldbuilding mistakes and improve it in his next book series, after he finishes asoiaf!
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>>218418096
after a lifetime of being molested, sansa stark finds pleasure from molesting other young girls
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Is that backstates planetos?
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>>218418243
Preston shut the fuck up
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>>218418229
If the vibes are fine autism isn't needed
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>>218414124
retard
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>>218418315
No, problem is that Arya should be fucked and bred in main books but because GRRM dragged his feet she hasn’t flowered yet
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>>218412875
TAOOBA!
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>>218418754
>I traded my eye for largest dragon so it’s all good
>…
>now that I have a largest dragon I’ll take your eye
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>>218417953
So India?
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>>218418324
>being this new
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>>218413423
well it might not be the best for optics or control if you sit on some distant island in your fortress of doom compared to having a big capital city with a fancy castle.
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>>218413640
In show canon Summer Isles are not only right off the coast of Westeros, they are intermarrying every noble and every lowborn at a dramatic rate.



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