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What are the biggest film and /tv/ downgrades?
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>>218417808
the new dune movies and particularly the baron. they turned him from a flamboyant calculating machiavellian genius that loves hearing himself talk to this fat stoic brooding guy that never says anything
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>>218417808
LOTR. Aragon is brown
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>>218417835
He said enough. Main issue with nuBaron is that they made him excessively cruel. bookBaron is way more smarter than that.
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>>218417808
Nothing about scaly skin and fans tho
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>>218417876
*fangs
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>>218417867
huh i wonder how they wouldve made him smarter
maybe, talking more, and being an actual character
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Deb from Dexter is supposed to look like a big titty bimbo (which is why she's not taken seriously in the police and why Laguerta hates her), not a skinny boy
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>>218417835
You could say the same thing about pretty much anything from Dunc, but the Baron is one of the worst. If I can't even read the character's lines in the book in the film version's voice, it's irredeemable (not unlike these captchas).
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imagine if an author wrote a book describing pic related as having "mouse-like appearance" and then some furry would complain about the movie adoption because she doesn't even have a tail
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pic related was a disgrace and the worst part is you fags and the normies ate it up like butt candy
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>>218417808
>he has snake-like features
>turns him into a full blown snake

What moron made this image?
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>>218418037
it's likely better than the book
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>>218418072
the movie is an almost 1:1 adaptation of the book down to word for word dialogue
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>>218417808
That's not what he looks like, WYF is this AI bullshit
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>>218417808
The only thing missing from that description in Fiennes’ portrayal is the red eyes. It didn’t say he was a snake man or something, that would be too on the nose even for Rowling
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>>218417808
>whining about the difference between book description and film limitations
I imagine that the use of AI to create film is going to eliminate whiners such as those. In fact, AI artists will very likely bring the book descriptions to life in ways far more elaborately than the reader had imagined.
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>>218417808
Having read American Psycho I couldn't complete the movie. A laughably shallow speedrun of moments and quotes.
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Movie has boobs
Comic Nancy shows boobs
Movie Nancy shows no boobs
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>>218418072
It's a pretty good book and it won a bunch of awards. You are dumb and most likely brown of skin.
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>>218418199
yeah hes much more pathetic in the book. people wouldnt be idolizing him like they do now because the movie tried to make him seem cool but his actual character is a meek and scared pussycat fearful of how others perceive him and obsessing over petty shallow stuff like a woman
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>>218417855
Red. He's a 7 foot Red man.
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>>218419226
Bakshi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jackson
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>>218419258
Jackson also made Frodo into a raging pussy.
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>>218417808
If you just gave the one on the right red eyes it would be 1:1 with the book description. Stop with this reddit engagement bait.
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>>218419212
that'd make him even more "he's literally me dude haha" though. no one genuinely idolizes him, he's cemented in pop culture solely because of how ridiculous meme worthy every scene is in the movie adaptation akin to the cia guy and bane memes here
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>>218417808
if his name was unspeakable why didn’t they just call him Morty
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>>218419104
This was so weird, if he wanted to do a gladiator film about Caligula then he should have just stuck Caligula in there, it was already inaccurate as fuck so what difference would it make adding another anachronism
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>>218419104
I'm not a Rome-aboo so I don't care about this, but why did they give tat movie 2 antagonists and 2 protagonists?
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>>218417808
>Reacher is described as being 6 feet 5 inches (1.96 m) tall, weighing 210–250 pounds (95–113 kg) and having a 50-inch (130 cm) chest. In Never Go Back, he is described as having "a six-pack like a cobbled city street, a chest like a suit of NFL armor, biceps like basketballs, and subcutaneous fat like a Kleenex tissue."
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>>218417808
tongue is forked
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>>218417808
Lecter's dialogue is one of the best things in the book. It's intelligent, erudite and intimidating.

In the film they dumbed it all down to kindergarten level, presumably because they didn't want the audience to feel intimidated. But that's the whole point.
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>>218418037
>>218418072
It's better than the book solely because I have visual context to understand what the fuck Alex is talking about.
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>>218420544
Because the real caracalla murdered his younger brother who he was co-emperor with, caracalla was also the next emperor after commodus who actually mattered (there was 5 others in between but 4 got killed off in the same year) so in the timeline caracalla would be ruling, but like I said here >>218420527 the movie caracalla was basically just Caligula and nothing like the actual caracalla
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>>218420632
saying that Septimius Severus did not matter is a strange take, but he would not have made for a great villain, while Caracalla as a fratricidal brute and cruel tyrant is more interesting as a character.
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>>218417808
Everyone goes on about how great Diana Rigg was, because she was a semi-legitimate actress rather than a clothes-horse. But she wasn't great. She was just too normal. Tracy has to be a real angel-with-a-broken-wing; otherworldly gorgeous & wounded.

The script etc didn't help but even with competent people making the film and a decent Bond, DR couldn't have done it.

Another point: book Tracy is blonde. Blondes are best.
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>>218420728
Well yeah I was probably overstating it when I said caracalla was the next one who mattered, but in terms of having a villian emperor he was next in the timeline that would make sense, but of course Ripley wanted Caligula so he turned caracalla and his brother into cackling morons rather than caracalla being the brutal tyrant he was in reality
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>>218420766
Ridley*
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>>218418004
I maintain that Galadriel is one of the few good things to happen to that show. The pacing and the overall plot is an absolute joke, but with Morfydd I have no complaints.
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>>218419104
The character was bases on Egalabus
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>>218417904
nta but they missed a lot of key points about the Baron, the most important beint that his whole persona is calculated to be intimidating and disgusting. The guys goes for little boys and being fat on purpose, those things are like delicacies for him, not vices. His only vice is power.
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>>218418004
I love Morf but Debicki was the perfect cast. Galadriel is supposed to be super tall and Debicki while elegant has some presence that I think would work insanely well in battle, specially when wearing armor. But that's also my fetish so maybe I'm a little biased towards this casting.

Regardless, I wish you well mouse enjoyer, your waifu is wholesome and cute.
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>>218419070
She was smoking hot, her dancing was insane, but yeah, no boobs. Going half-assed is always worse than not going at all.
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>>218418199
Seconding this. I don't get the appeal of the movie. It doesn't capture the tone of the books at all.
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>>218420766
nta but having two Caligulas being manipulated by gay Denzel was such a weird rooster of villains. Also Pascal and Mescal playing two Maximus, one the general and the other the gladiator, what the hell. They knew what they wanted in that movie, just not how to put that in a coherent manner inside the script.
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>>218417876
>snake-like features
Then what are they? Movie version is just a pale guy with a weird nose.
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>>218417808
How Voldemort should have looked in both book and film.
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>>218417808
Other than the scary monster jaw (which he doesn't have), this is basically exactly the same
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>>218418004
Kek, also god I find this woman attractive
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>>218421382
are you illiterate? what the fuck do you think "with slits for nostrils, red eyes, and a thin pale face" means, you moron
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>>218417808
He doesn't have a snake mouth in the book
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from PSH to a literal troon
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>>218417835
I like the fact that he's super gay and has a whole harem of Paul Atreides lookalikes.
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>>218419212
How does one not have fear of how others perceive them?
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>>218419104
nah, this one was accurate and left isn't even his bust
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>>218421382
>Then what are they?
Slits for nostrils, red eyes ,thin pale skin.
It's amazing how much information you can gather from a text when you're not indian
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>>218417867
>way more smarter
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>>218421212
He IS intimidating in the new movies, moreso than in past iterations
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>>218421382
Besides the red eyes, slits for nostrils and pale skin? They could have made his lips thinner, make his pupils reptilian, a forked tongue, maybe no ears. Plenty of things besides turning him into a goomba from the Super Mario bros movie
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>>218422740
>dune baron: hyper intelligent genius who talks your ear off explaining his 10 layer "wheels within wheels" 4d chess traps to completely destroy your bloodline
>dunc baron: silent floating meatball who hires a really strong guy to punch you
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>>218422891
He’s still the Emperor’s chump either way.
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DEH!
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Anyone who doesn't think this interpretation is fine is esl
He isn't a literal fucking snake you streetshitters
Hes akin to a snake
Fiennes could only be described as snake like when he looks like that
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>>218417931
sex with deb however
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Left looks like he'll challenge you to MORTAL KOMBAT
Right looks like he'll make you a burger
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>>218422891
I think "less is more" Stellan is better than a verbose fartbag who loves exposition, especially in movie form. The lack of exposition-spewing and yammering in general does a lot for the new movies
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>>218423442
>does a lot for the new movies
yeah it makes them really generic and not interesting
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>>218423205
Fiennes can be described as snakelike no matter what makeup he’s in

Also your assertion is undermined a little bit by how they did have a full “snake” head prop in one of the why do I know this I’ve never watched the movies or read any of this shit fuck you brain
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>>218417808
He doesn't have a nose in the film though
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>>218423514
It gets more people to read the books at least. Also dune awakening was kino before it got too tedious. Ironically a dune game set in Brian’s machine crusade fanfiction would have been cool since they go to other planets and fight robots and cyborgs.
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>>218417808
Snake face would ruin his acting.
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>>218423555
>Production designers being retarded and then not being allowed to be publicly retarded undermines other retards
Nope
He looks snake like with the makeup he has on. A literal scally big fanged forked tongue snake head is stupid and not what is in the books
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>>218422891
>>218423442
One of the big problems Dunc’s Baron has is that there’s no pride before the fall.
The Baron might have been a genius, but he was also not as smart as he thought he was, which lead to him being blindsided by Leto’s last fuck you, which in turn nearly got him killed before Thufir spotted the problem he overlooked with his plan to throw Raban to the wolves.
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>>218420735
When all is said and done it's my second favorite Bond theme by John Barry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1dkxFH9hFg
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>>218417808
the design in Sorcerer's on the back of Quirrell's head was pretty good
They should've just use that and went full CGI instead of Ralph's retarded face and shitty acting
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>>218423657
It did make me read the book and realize how Villenueve improved on a few scenes
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>>218418144
They omitted the scene where Alex gets rated in prison tho
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>>218417808
left is scarier
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>>218424082
Your bait is bait and the desert take the weak.
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>>218424082
I think overall he improved a LOT, but there are also so many good things from the book that either can't be shown because they're thoughts/narration (no, Lynch, you can't just have an echoing voice exclaim the thoughts or infodump on the audience, however hot the princess might be), but there are also some major negatives.

I think the funniest thing was that his entire decision for making Chani mad at Paul was to have a character the audience and Paul cares about remind you that he's not a saviour, he is exploiting the fremen and it will lead to a ruinous galaxywide genocidal war, and the result was the audience adoring Paul regardless and getting mad at Chani for being bitchy
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>>218424545
>he improved a LOT
Allright m8, if you are going to do this, at least tell us what you think he improved so we can be properly mad at your bait.
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>>218417808
That’s really taking huge liberties with “snake-like” appearance.
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>>218424545
>no, Lynch, you can't just have an echoing voice exclaim the thoughts or infodump on the audience, however hot the princess might be
this kind of shit was forced on it by meddling executives its why he removed his name from it
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>>218424843
Makes sense. Lynch would never be stupid enough to do that, maybe only in one or two scenes just that called for some weirdness. They also had a whole booklet for audiences, like a videogame manual. The lack of faith they had in the audience for this movie was insane.
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>>218417808
I've read the books many times and the picture on the right is a lot close, he should have less of a nose but he doesn't literally look like a snake
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Real jesus was black
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>>218418199
>A laughably shallow speedrun of moments and quotes.
That's most book adaptations, you either make your own thing or absolutely butcher the source material.
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>>218420607
I'm with you in this. I don't like his Hannibal, it's too cartoonish. They also tried to make him a bit charismatic, which is weird, you shouldn't want that, you want to run from this psycho. Manhunter made him much more human, you can clearly see how the years behind bars wore him down, but he lost all the wit, it's just a beast in a cage. I think the TV show got him right, but it's not an adaptation, it's just inspired by the books.
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>>218420735
I think people just fell in love with Rigg. No wonder they cast her as Margaery's grandma in GoT, her smile game is top notch.
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>>218420607
>It's intelligent, erudite and intimidating.

In the film it's shallow and pedantic



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