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....semoc eH

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So, would we accept it if GRRM wrote F&B Vol. 2 and it went all the way to king Bran? So basically telling us the outline of Winds and Dream as a fake maester history.

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start the damn boarpoasting before I piss myself

>>218423293
Did Mark Addy do a good job as Bobby B? It's been so long since I read the first book I can't remember

>>218423288
I'll take anything at this point but he just doesn't care
always procrastinating, putting up other projects, etc

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>>218423241
the bog

>>218423334
People love him despite appearing in first season only. He did terrific job and people still quote him all the time

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>>218423241
that's some weird make up
she looked ok in her last movie

crazy now that I think about it but Mace Tyrell was the only person Joffrey respected

>>218423404
We have different definitions on the word "ok" apparently.

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>They call, they call me the fat man
>Because I weigh 200 pounds
>All the girls they love me
>Because I know my way around

Joffrey would've probably been OK if they took him closer to battlefields and shit
there's a war with 4 different kings, he's a cruel impulsive guy, he'd end up being like Ramsey, he'd have valid output for all his cruelty in a way that makes him seem legitimate. torturing some prisoners, floggings, executions etc.
They didnt give a fuck about that kid, they just had him do nothing all day long. He showed some good initiative.
once he'd be done with war of 5 kings they could've sent him off with an army to the north to handle wildings and Mace Ryder which he'd also enjoy. and then he'd probably chill out as an adult who got his fill. he could've ended up like Daemon with gold cloacks just doing police brutality as a hobby.
They didnt try to lean into his nature at all so he just kept using his cruelty in ways benefitting no one.
Whole Lannister family was retarded.

>>218423523
Joffrey ran away from Blackwater, he was craven as fuck and would refuse to participate in any actual battle

>>218423404
>weird make up
humiliation ritual, probably refused some epstein style task

>>218423288
>would we accept it if GRRM wrote
>GRRM
>wrote
lol lmao even
jokes asides yes it would be great, i'd take a complete fire and blood 2 over winds even since we would never get dream of spring(much less the couple more books he would need to warp up the story) anyway, but that senile fat fuck isn't publishing anything again, best you can hope for is unfinished shit after he's dead

>>218423334
He’s not six and a half feet tall so not physically but acting wise yes

>>218423334
Unironically, Addy was too charismatic and charming. Bobby is way more pathetic in the books, and Ned’s internal dialogue is all about how he can’t believe how far his friend has fallen. The show also added the scenes with Cersei and with Jamie/Barristan which let us explore his grief and his pining for the glory days.

>>218423451
Nothing remarcable, but ok for a 30 years old person.
I know your hentai waifus don't age but real people do, get over it

>>218423637
tbf where the hell where they going to find all the giants needed for canon height characters

>>218423631
> much less the couple more books he would need to warp up the story
Wouldn’t surprise me if they actually decide to finish Asoiaf it would be
Winds of Winter part 1
Winds of Winter part 2
Winds of Winter part 3
Dream of Spring

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>"I am almost a woman grown, ser. I'll let you spank me, though ... but first you'll need to tilt with me, and knock me off my horse."

the white walker baby whateva happened there

>>218423684
>Rhaegar’s “son” is considering marriage prospects
>Dornish Lyanna arrives
Valyrian genetics include a predisposition to throw it all away for horse girl pussy.

>>218423404
>Set in the 15th century during the Wars of the Roses, Anne and her mother-in-law Morwen exist on the outskirts of society when someone from their past re-enters their life
maybe a /got/ watchalong would be fun

>>218423684
>>218423720
How Ariane will handle that?

>>218423288
maybe he should write a page a week or something, you know just to motivate the lil fella to write a lil, he could even charge a fee for a weekly delivery like a magazine or newspaper

>>218423561
It's retarded af for a king to fight on the battlefield. They should have let him issue commands then let him watch the brutality.

>>218423819
Fat fuck was crying about authors who can just write all books in series and only then publish(which allows you to go back and rewrite early books to better flow with ending).
I have 5% belief that he might be actually writing both winds and dream at the same time. That is if he is writing anything at all

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>Anon? what were you looking at?

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There's this mysterious character in our story. A lot of people say they do what they do "for the nonce". Who is that?

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>>218423766
He'll marry Arianne and all the sand snakes Aegon the Conqueror style

>>218424009
he is teenager, he will swear undying love to first woman he meets

>>218423961
That reminds me. A week or so ago I was going for a walk and crossed paths with a young woman doing running. Naturally I looked after her once she'd passed me to check out her ass. That's when I saw her running forward, but with her head craned back to stare at me. She shouted "Yeah, caught you, eh!" and then ran around a corner.

Wtf this meant she was into me, right? Any woman experts here who can weigh in?

>>218423766
She’ll return to flicking the bean to Darkstar rape fantasies. Come to think of it, it’s interesting that Asha and Arianne both canonically have rape fantasies, with Asha even getting into roleplay.

>>218424064
>meet cute Dornish wife
>turns out she has 8 bastard cousins
>some of which your wife has probably had threesomes, maybe even orgies with

why didn't Viserys just marry Rhaenyra and Aegon? no need for a succesion war they both get to be king and queen and rule together

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>>218424075
Or she likes the attention most likely.

>>218424009
He's so retarded to ignore the plan and not save Dany. I know how they explain it in the book (and how Tyrion can not belive how dumb it is), but I also know that irl Martin has just hacked that whole thing together.

>>218424194
Viserys I was charismatic but a dogshit father and king, especially coming off the coattails of Jaehaerys I and the Great Council.

>>218424231
>how Tyrion can not belive how dumb it is
isn't it Tyrion that suggests that he should abandon the plan to save Dany?

>>218424194
He thought the age difference was too great, and he was burying his head in the sand to avoid addressing the looming succession crisis that literally everyone else saw coming.

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>>218423659
>passive aggressive ad hominem out of nowhere

>>218424194
I can't remember what the age difference is in the books, but probably quite big as well. Which is a problem when it's the woman that is older. Though Martin loves himself some /ss/ action, Larra Rogare was 19 when she married the 12yo Vyseris II.

The real reason is probably Maester+Hightower scheming. They wanted a civil war to happen, after all.

I didnt even realize that black guy with white dreads had a brother at all,
at fist I thought the old lady was hallucinating but then other characters were speaking back to him and it made me think its some zombie Mountain thing going on but apperently he had a brother the whole time?
why the fuck didnt they try to make them look different at all, they look the same! give them different hair!!!!

>>218424290
eh can't a boy produce sperm from like day one? just have her bang the kid to save the realm

>>218424194
Rhaenyra is a bitch and Viserys is a retarded dad who spoiled her rotten and didnt see world beyond her, she wouldnt have gone for it

>>218424267
Yes, but it was meant as a bad plan for Griff to ponder over and figure out why it would be bad. Tyrion gets captured before they can talk more. When Tyrion later hears that Griff goes to Westeros without Dany, he thinks if it was because of his advice, but then quickly dismisses the idea. Tyrion thinks Griff surely must have some special intel as his reason, because otherwise it would be retarded not to save his family member. She has the dragons, after all, and going without her first makes them competitors.

Ofc, that rivalry is what grrm needs for the plot, that's why he engineered it this way.

>>218424329
No, femanon, we boys can only produce sperm from puberty. There are so called dry orgasms before that though.

>>218423523
Joffrey was spoiled and cruel and possibly a bit psychotic due to inbreeding but also a coward. He couldnt take anyone on 1v1 and had to abuse his authority given to him by his family.

Ramsey is the complete opposite of that where he almost has no authority due to being a bastard, and as such he is very competent in combat and battlefield strategy where his own weakness is that hes insecure and paranoid and as such he killed his father while not really learning proper lessons from him. Like how the fuck is a baby going to replace him when a war is going on and his father is already an old man.

I think Ramsay let it go to his head when he used Theon/Reek to recapture that fort he thought he could do anything.

>>218424084
All women have rape fantasies

>>218424477
>things rapists say

I love Aemond
he looked so stupid in every screenshot but he's awesome

>>218424529
This is also rape fantasy
>>218423684
>oh you can fuck me but only after you defeat me

>>218424529
NTA, but every woman I’ve ever dated, and eventually married, had them.

>>218424084
>>218424588
Do we include Dany’s fantasy at being carried off by Daario from her wedding, the same way Rhaegar did to “his Northern girl”? Or is that more of a rescue fantasy?

>>218424661
>the same way Rhaegar did to “his Northern girl”?
he carried her off the middle of the road and hid her in some secret tower. Literally rape

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>>218423241
TAOOBA!

>>218424952
So at this point, if you include Sansa’s false memories of getting kissed by the Hound at sword point, 4 out of our 8(?) female POV’s have rape fantasies. Hmm.

All women have rape fantasies, but they fantasise about being raped by tall, handsome, mysterious and charismatic chads. The thought of being raped by an average man or loser is still horrifying to them

>>218425053
you are obliged to look at GRRMs picture every time something erotic is happening in the book

>>218425194
Much like anything else to do with women, they'll discuss the process with fervor but balk at the actual doing.

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>>218425203
>She was sopping wet when he entered her. “Damn you,” she said. “Damn you damn you damn you.” He sucked her nipples till she cried out half in pain and half in pleasure. Her cunt became the world. She forgot Moat Cailin and Ramsay Bolton and his little piece of skin, forgot the kingsmoot, forgot her failure, forgot her exile and her enemies and her husband. Only his hands mattered, only his mouth, only his arms around her, his cock inside her. He fucked her till she screamed, and then again until she wept, before he finally spent his seed inside her womb.

How did I read all these ASOIAF books in just two years when I was in HS and college? They’re so long kek

>>218425280
You didn't have a fucking phone

being "raped" by handsome man is something they want because it let's them both have sex and not be seen as whores for it

>>218425302
I did I was just young dumb and full of FUN

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cute and canon!

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>>218424075
She wasn't creeped out at least. You'd be making a mistake if you don't interact the next time you see her

>>218423404
the kind of face you would have to love at 24 to still find attractive at 30

>>218425053
bless the fat fuck

>Lord Wyl of Wyl of Wyl of the house of Wyl

>>218425274
whose POV?

>>218425280
I think I read all of them over a few weeks. Asoiaf + Dunk & Egg.

I know that I staunchly refused to read the books while the show was still going. Because I wanted the show to be its own thing. I didn't want the show and books to spoil each other, not just with regards to the story, but the whole experience of it. If that makes sense. Obviously even as a show-only fag I realized it became dogshit in the later seasons.

After the season 8 finale I finally bought the books and devoured them. Not just at home. I remember that I sat on park benches in front of the university and read them, completely engrossed. Gods, that was like 7 years ago. I've written and published my phd dissertation since then, and the fatman still hasn't finished twow.

Daemon Targaryen was married to Rhea Royce of Runestone
if they had children, would they be named Targaryen or Royce? if Targaryen would they be vassals of the Eyrie or Iron Throne?

while Preston and fucks care about useless shit like Quentin and Nuclear reactors normal people actually read what GRRM actually put into story:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JibAHzZxYk

>>218425280
1. your brain wasnt melted down by short form yet
2. when you're young story as shocking as GoT is very captivating, at that age you dont really have exposure to stories about massive betrayal, rape, gore and brutality so these books are very captivating, but as we get older and get used to darker material it all becomes more benign

>>218426157
needs more diversity. Zendaya mayhaps

>>218426157
how fast are these kids growing godsdamn

>>218425419
I'm not sure I'd recognize her again, she wore big sunglasses and looked rather generic. I'll guess we'll have to see.

I know my former, even more autistic self would be terrified of going that way again and meeting her lol. I was one of those guys that stopped going to shops or whatever when the cute salesgirl starded to remember and greet you.

>>218425934
Asha Greyjoy

That reminds me doesn’t Alicent have a child fostering at Oldtown? Is he in Fire and Blood or is he an OC

>>218426281
Go full retard in the other direction. Being shy or awkward is no longer an excuse.

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>>218423241
Book accurate

>>218426447
Daeron? He’s the youngest son. He’s a pretty good kid and capable but he dies later.

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>>218426452
>anon goes full Juggalo-core
>whips out his wang to slap her face with it
>white knights tackle him, cops tase him down
>anon is a sweetcake in prison while roastie puts an attempted rape charge on his record
Never go full retard in the other direction

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Cute and canon!

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>>218426569
tfw women have rights now

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>>218426686
A mistake whole generations will suffer and pay for

>>218426505
Post one sentence where Sansa’s ample bosom is discussed.

Helaena is gonna kill herself seeing jaehaera getting killed

>>218423241
>HOTD and Knight Of...has fans glazing the incestuous Targs again because they show SOME of them being fairly sympathetic towards people outside their small circle of incest families, to the point that they hate the Arryns, Baratheons and Starks for destroying their rule.

I don't get it. Why do they glaze this heinous group like the Targs? I've watched all the shows and I'm still glad Based Bobby B killed that Emo Prince and that a Stark Bastard ended the Targ bloodline for good with his sword.

The Targs were hypocritical bastards who bragged about ruling the kingdoms via Right of Conquest and constantly bitch about the fact that other groups were operating on the same method they used against the weaker Kingdoms. So it's okay to conquer people for being weaker than you because Right of Conquest, but suddenly it's Divine Right of Kings against anyone who operate the same method? Suddenly, it's wrong when the Deer, the Wolf, Lion and Bird use violence on the Dragon when the Dragon brags about ruling them by violent force?

People talk about honor, integrity and rightful rule when the Targs believed in none of that shit. They ruled the kingdoms by force and lost it by force. Why should I feel bad? They created the rules and they lost by those same rules. They were hypocritical bullies who demanded loyalty on those they oppressed but refuse to yield to the same force factor that got them there in the first place.

>>218426124
Viserys should have annulled their marriage
Borros Baratheon had 4 daughters, let Daemon marry the oldest and become Lord Paramount of the Stormlands

>>218426967
Bobbys the GOAT character on the show but Dany was handled poorly in that she was smug bitch when they wanted you to like her and right when they wanted you to start hating her you started to feel very sympathetic because she set her invasion aside only to get backstabbed by that malignant cunt Sansa.

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>here comes Ser Donnel of Duskendale charging
>full gallop
>sword ready
>BAH GAWD
SER ROBYN RHYSLING OUTTA NOWHERE
>BUSINESS IS ABOUT TO PICK UP

>>218426996
>>218426124
I get that theres advantages to marrying to the royal family but why would you just let your house go extinct like that like you’d think it’s be better to just have someone like Rhea remain unmarried and let it pass to a Royce cousin than to just give it to the Targaryens

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>AAAAARRRGGGGGHHHHHH I'M GONNA FUCKING DO IT, DUNK
>MY ENTIRE FAMILY IS FULL OF SUBHUMAN RETARDS, MY OLDEST SON TURNED DOWN THE THRONE FOR SOME PEASANT PUSSY AND MY SISTER IS STILL TRYING TO RAPE ME
>IT ALL ENDS HERE, IM GONNA-IM GONNA BOOOOOOOOORN THEM ALL
Season 10 of AKOTSK will confirm this is canon btw

Butchers boy isn’t dead btw.

>>218427063
>Beesbury and Hardyng were dead after the first charge and Daeron took the fall
>Dunk and Aerion are having a 1v1 for pretty much the full time we see them
>So are Raymum and Steffon
>Maekar is shown in several scenes having a 1v2 against Baelor and Lyonel
This basically means that Robyn Rhysling was handling the 3 Kingsguard members offscreen by himself the entire time

>>218427159
Truly, The Warrior was with him on that day.

>>218427159
give that guy a promotion

>>218423404
It's literally for the Met Gala where everyone dresses up in stupid costumes. She looked normal the very next day. But people just keep posting the same image of her at the Met Gala in 2022 over and over and over.

>>218426996
>allow your asshole brother who's obviously hungry for your throne to become one of the most powerful men in the 7 kingdoms

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>My daughter, Gwin
How would you respond?

WTF? Why were the Targs so obsessed with fucking their cousins, sister/brother/aunts/uncles?

They say its to keep the Valyrian bloodline pure to ensure their control of dragons and magic, but there were Valyrian houses that already existed and there were Free Cities where Valyrians still existed to ensure they still have a relatively pure Valyrian bloodline. Hell, they could have continued switch mating with the Baratheons, Martells, Hightowers and Arryns to ensure enough genetic diversity, while also arranging marriages with Velaryons, Celtigars, and Free City Valyrians to ensure purity if it gets out of control.

Why didn't they do that instead of fucking their brothers and sisters? Was it a Targ thing or something? I can't imagine being attracted to a cousin, let alone a sibling.

>>218427423
you don't want dragonseeds to be in major houses

>>218427367
>How would you respond?
UUOOHHHH!!! ToT

>>218427423
The Conqueror was just really, really horny for his younger sister

>>218427423
Incest is based.

>>218427530
maybe in mumbai where you're from

>>218427367
Hello you sexy bitch

>>218427423
Martin has hinted that Aegon was at least somewhat aware of the Prince That Was Promised prophecy, and may have invaded Westeros in part to prevent the Long Night from occuring.

>>218427423
It's literally a Targaryen thing because they were creepy Dragonrider families from the Freehold who honestly believe fucking their siblings to retain purity was the only way. Aegon started it in Westeros, to the point that he had two sister-wives. Creepy motherfucker.

Literally all the other houses with Dragon blood, even the ones from with more pure Dragonblood such as Velaryon and Celtigar didn't engage in frequent incest, despite being from the same stock as the Targaryens.

>>218427670
The Velaryons and Celtigars weren't dragonriders. The incest was really just a dragonrider thing.

>>218427670
>Literally all the other houses with Dragon blood, even the ones from with more pure Dragonblood such as Velaryon and Celtigar didn't engage in frequent incest,
they were never dragon lords

>>218427273
Daemon wouldnt have chimped out if Viserys had just named him Hand

>>218427423
Valyrians in general can not ride dragons. Only about 20 families of old Valyria could, the Targaryens are the last of those. Other current valyrian descendants (Velaryon, Celtigar, Volanten nobels, random Lyseni, etc.) can not do it.

There's probably one special gene that allows you to ride dragons. The Targaryens practice incest to 1. ensure this gene is passed on and does not go extinct, and 2. prevent other families from getting the dragon rider ability too.

However, there is an unknown number of descendants from Targaryen rape babies and whoresons around in the general population who might have the gene too. Hence the "dragonseed" dragon riders recruited in the Dance/HotyD.

Ofc there's also the meta theory that there's no special dragon riding gene, but instead a general magic gene: The Stark kids bonded with wolf pups, if you had given them dragon hatchlings they would have bonded with those too. We can see, for example, how the warg Arya can also learn to become a faceless man. It's probably all the same. But the Targs belive in the above mentioned special dragon gene.

>>218427367
>wagwan piff ting

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>>218423684
modern women don't got rizz like this

Is civil war gonna break out in westeros after Bran dies cuz his dick don't work and will have no heirs?

>>218427662
>Martin has hinted that Aegon was at least somewhat aware of the Prince That Was Promised prophecy, a
I really hate how GRRM Fatman is trying to do Villainous Revisionism or Retconning when really it was better when the Targs were just asshole Dragonrider conquerors who couldn't let go of their degenerate, warmonger thirst for conquest. Making it seem like they had noble intentions is such horseshit when from the very beginning the Targs always said they ruled Westeros because they conquered it.

>>218428085
Yes.

>>218428085
>after Bran dies
power that backed Bran left Seven Kingdoms. Civil war will break out before he's dead

>Daemon the ROGUE PRINCE
>obeys and kneels to Viserys
>obeys and kneels to Rhaenyra
?

>>218428128
cuck king

>>218427423
The general consensus is Targaryen's are mixed with Dragons themselves through some black art lost from the Doom, which why so many babies who are born prematurely look scaly and gross, like half dragon humanoids. The further you diverge from the Targaryen bloodline the likely you are to lose that

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>>218426006
Good times. I read them after season 3 ended because I needed to know what came next. And then again maybe after season 4/5. Also at uni. At one point I literally spent every waking free moment thinking about these fucking books, the lore, the theories

The show getting progressively worse slowly killed my interest and then after the finale it was just gone. Dunk is giving me the jitters again. There is hope

>>218423288
George hasn't put pen to paper in years except to endorse checks.

Is lord sheepfucker even that important? Why would 2 princes and their sons even go to it?

>>218423288
Fire and Blood ends during Robert's reign because the author is from that time, it can't go further than that, the best we'll get are hints about Lyanna and Rhaegar

>>218428265
PR campaign

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>Who?
>What the fuck is going on?
He's literally me

>>218424194
Viserys was a moron. Paddy did all the heavy lifting in regards to making people like the character.

It's so funny how the catspaw dagger is both an absolute key pivotal plotline of the books, and total nonsense that is worse the more you think about it.

>>218428313
George kind of forgot about catspaw

>>218427063
I've never wished for deleted scenes on physical media harder in my life

>>218427763
Daemon would have been a terrible Hand. He would have fucked everything up within a month.

>>218426006
What was your research on?

>>218423241
Is this edited?

>>218428276
He says it too often imo

>>218428345
>Cersei did it
>no wait it was Littlefinger
>no it was Joffrey because Robert made a drunken remark offhandedly
>except it was Littlefinger's dagger
>why would an assassin need to be given a knife?
>why use a distinctive knife from the king's treasury?
>Cat tells Tyrion that Littlefinger told her the knife belongs to him
>Tyrion never follows up on this
Bit of a mess, innit?

Kit Harrington is a good actor (now)

>>218428470
>why use a distinctive knife from the king's treasury?
To frame

Why didn't house of the dragon start at the beginning of Fire and Blood? (aegons conquest). They wouldn't have had to do so much filler if they just followed the content as written?

I stopped watching GoT after season 6. I heard Dunk and Egg is a good watch. Do I need to watch the rest of GoT or House to familiarize myself with the context or can any new watcher just dive in and enjoy the content?

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>*teaches your kids some Dornish*

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>>218427670
I always thought that incest was a Valyrian thing hence all the blood magic. And that the doom came because Valyrian lifestyle was an affront to the Gods (blood magic, incest and creation of dragons)

I mean, look at these fucks. They all look like inbred aliens to me

>>218428588
Dunk and Egg is between GoT and HotD, you don't need to finish first or watch second

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>>218428591
it just occurred to me that since corn (maize) exists in Westeros, then people probably make tortillas

so the Dornish probably have tacos or something

>>218428588
You can dive right in, this is much better than HOTD anyway.

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