>all of a sudden normalfags like physical media againthis shit is so disingenuous i hate it
>>218594998lol, just pirate everything.
>>218594998Just say home video. Physical media is so pretentious.
>>218594998How the fuck is that a bad thing?
>>218595045Physical media refers to video games and music too, retard.
>>218595059If the majority likes something I do I have to suddenly hate it for the sake of being the contrarian hipster I am
>>218595059its performative bullshit theyre just doing it as a trend and to post on social media. meanwhile there are those of us who have actually been physicalchads for years and never stopped buying/never gave into to streaming. like most things the internet makes it easy to be a poser these days all it takes is some article like op's to become le trendy
>>218595095I tried physical stuff but it's just a huge money sink, pirating shit and watching it on a laptop is good enough
>>218595095If it's a trend then it will disappear with time, just like the getting music on vinyl meme. Just keep enjoying your hobby, fuck the normalfags.
>>218595065No one is talking about that.
>>218595035i do :)
>Digital files>Click of a button, beginvs>Manually insert physical copy>Wait for DvD to load>Navigate menu to start screening>Few episodes max per disc>Manually eject the disc when done, put in case & store on shelfThe only real justification for this is for apocalypse preppers when the internet goes offline and they are underground in bunkers
>>218595153this but for me its also about physical space. i live in an apartment because i cant do any better (yet) and i recently sold my comic/manga collection because not only was i short on money it gave me a bunch of space back in my place. and my collection wasnt even that big. if i make it some day and can afford a house i would have no problems buying whatever the fuck i want and having a large physical collection
>>218594998If it leads to increased demand for physical media I do not care how it comes about. If.
>>218595213>soulless vs KINOthanks for reminding us that physical is superior
physical media is for rich people, most of the world watched pirated movies burned on blank dvd's
>>218595195Piracy is extortion on the high seas. What is commonly referred to as piracy is really just copyright infringement or as I've taken to calling it, "unauthorized sharing."
>>218595301>unauthorized sharingsounds based to me
>>218595269Nah you're either a thirdie or low income. Home media was a massive industry until Yidflix got the normies onboard with digital media and jewed the whole thing
>>218595301If buying isn’t owning then piracy isn’t stealing.
>>218594998>Certain company adopts the industry standard set over 10 years ago of being mostly digital>Suddenly everyone hates digital and physical is king againIt's so transparent it's hilarious. No wonder you're days away from sending boots to the desert
I don't miss DVDs to be quite honest. Piracy has never been easier than right now and I would just pay for streaming if they had better content.
>>218594998gen z realized you can't express your identity through an online librarywith physical releases they can proudly display their collection in their living room for their friends to look atit's the whole reason for the recent CD boom, they're reportedly buying more physical releases than gen x or the millennials
>>218594998>normalfagsbuddy its like 19 total people. its still a dying industry, no reason to get assblasted bc 8 normies bought goodwill dvds
>golden era of dvdsas soon as I knew how to pirate shit I've never looked backHDDs have their drawbacks as well but the best thing about pirating movies is customization>subtitles are shitdownload different ones or fix them yourself>audio is better on release 1, video better on release 2just mux them together>want to save spacedownload the remux and re-encode yourself, remove unnecessary audio tracksand even if my HDDs shit the bed one day I have two 24TB HDDs as backup
the encoding/quality is objectively worse, and your discs won't last forever.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disc_rot
>>218595480Disc rot only affects a small amount of specifically manufactured discs. Most will last a lifetime.
>>218594998>Preferring whatever is most convenient for you? That's DISINGENUOUSYou are the big retard
>>218595405That's the most cringe performative shit I've ever seen.
>>218595365>I don't miss DVDs to be quite honest.I hate how easy they scratch up. CDs could take a fucking beating and still play fine. DVDs were very finicky. Too many bad memories of renting a movie or show and then not being able to see whole scenes because some asshole scratched up the disc before I rented it. It was also really easy to have happen to your own collection. Ooops, there goes $25 down the fucking drain because I accidentally dropped this frisbee! I've been buying old DVDs and blurays for $1 at the flea markets and thrift store, but I don't miss buying them new at all. They made them cheap and disposable on purpose.
>>218595472>>subtitles are shit>download different ones or fix them yourselfi wish they did a better job ripping Netflix etc. subtitles, sometimes i end up with weird punctuation like commas instead of quotation marks. might be an OCR/Unicode problem.also, learn to use forced subtitles in your encodes, pirate frens. if i'm watching a sci-fi show and the aliens are speaking alienese, i never know if it's meant to be subtitled or left to our imagination.
>>218595520if you want read-only media that lasts forever, you actually want magnetic tapes. there's a reason servers and data centres use them for backups.
>>218595405There is some merit in physical, as in the sensation of touch adds to people's memories. Students learn better from a physical book than a digital one, can remember for example that information was on the 200th page or whatever. With CDs it encourages people to listen to an album and not just the famous track or greatest hits. But with TV and film I think the only real benefit is bonus material and probably higher quality. (You can download a perfect rip but most people don't)
>>218595613
>>218594998this is great: I have a box of dvds i want to sell off before disc rot sets in.
>another piracy threadyou fags are so obnoxious no one cares
>>218595581>better job ripping Netflix etc. subtitlesThose still have errors especially for new TV episodes on release. Yeah OCR is really annoying, I had some movies where it mostly worked and others where the results were complete garbage. But at least you have the option.>forced subtitlesI'm an ESLtard so I just go for the English non HI subs that cover all dialogue, including the foreign stuff. But I see how that can be annoying for someone who only needs the forced subtitles.
>>218594998I hate the zoomer faggots conflating physical media with optical media and the sudden worship of the latter as a result. Optical media is the most dogshit form of physical, and of the million ways to store your own data, it’s by far the worst, most cumbersome way to do so. I have a home server and not once have I needed to touch C*’s or D*D’s.
>>218594998I still have my entire DVD & Blu-ray (200+) collection in a giant box. I also have a massive CD (400+) collection boxed up. They're all in good condition too. I wonder how much I could sell them for?
>>218595405i know there's the stereotype that vinyl is for hipsters, but as a medium it's good/fine if you have the space.if you want to 'show them off' then as a bonus you get some really nice album art on big record sleeves (rather than a small piece of paper in a jewel case). i still need to watch picrel about the Pink Floyd album art guys.
What's the used market like these days? I went through a brief blu ray phase a while back and now I'm just sitting on a pile of ~300 movies that I'll never touch. Realistically speaking, can I turn a profit or is it just worthless plastic now?
>>218594998I do miss commentary tracks and bonus material. The few sites where you used to be able to download them to then sync up yourself for digital media seems to have died out.
>>218595774>Those still have errors especially for new TV episodes on release.it's so strange to me that streaming is becoming a 'live service' of sorts, like the episodes get patched. make sure you watch Game of Thrones v1.1, changelog.txt says they removed that coffee cup.
>>218595035Even celebrities pirate.
>>218595968>that one image of lebron watching nba games on pirate free stream sitesliterally everyone does it
>>218595213Scientifically speaking it makes your experience more enjoyable because of how dopamine and delayed gratification works.
>>218594998I will die on the hill that I keep DVDs of movies that I love. People who collect physical just to hoard shit are faggots.
>>218595059disc rot primarily, I think normies have an inherent fear and revulsion of backing up any of their physical media in case of that.
>>218594998My preferred Setup:> Movies are on media (DVD)> Backup copies of DVD's are stored on my local network storage> All of the screens in the house access the backup copies via the network driveThere are a few reasons why I prefer media:> changing soundtracksI can't tell you how many times that one company loses rights to music from another, and they suddenly replace the music you remembered (or looked forward to) with some BS replacement. The first time I remember it is when they released an 'anniversary version' of the film "The President's Analyst"; and removed this song from the film's iconic scene:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzmqGfFkiC4> changes to the film itselfSometimes it's big stuff (did Hans shoot first), sometimes it's little stuff (taking out my favorite boob shot from "Showgirls"), but when you grow up watching a movie in a certain way, and someone later decides to make changes for no real reason, it's annoying as fuck.> More film optionsI like a lot of obscure movies; many (if not most) of them not being available on streaming. Ya, if you want to watch "Goodfellas", you can find it being shown on TV every week; but what about "This Man's Navy" (which is never shown)
don't tell the poors but the best way to pirate right now requires you to spend $2 per month for a service which I will not name
>>218596066real debrid?
>>218596036Him too, yeah lol. I don't know which other celebrities do as well?
>>218596066It’s not piracy then.
>>218595045if the phrase "physical media" sounds pretentious to you...."some high school"?
>>218595968>Twitter isnt holding back>story didnt even last 15 minutes and literally nobody cares I hate mass media
>>218596081shhhh
>>218595938Probably the reason for errors in the first place.Shitty "we'll fix it later" mentality that also fucked vidya hard.
>>218595045"home video" was dad and his giant camcorder recording christmas
>>218595792Depends how niche your tastes are
>>218596065Still waiting on physical releases of Beavis & Butt-Head (literally every music video), Roseanne (Born to be Wild, CCR & Fogerty songs), and Married With Children (Love & Marriage, Beastie Boys, and Guns n Roses) with the licensed music back in.
>>218595339I really don't know why people are going around saying this. It may not be stealing but it is "unauthorized sharing" as the other guy called it. So fucking what? It's unethical, you shouldn't be doing it. If you want to do privately at least don't fucking brag about it. Otherwise how are the shows you like going to get made? I know people who go around bragging about how they pirate everything are the lowest IQ of people but just surely you can understand this basic difficulty here - how are they going to get made? They won't get made, tv and hollywood will become even more of a corpose than it already is, so stop pirating or at least stop bragging about it you retarded shit.
>>218595405please delete this post, this is a thread about DVDs and this is forbidden knowledge
>>218594998The only physical media that's going to stick around is vinyl. If only because it's arguably a different experience. You're never going to get a return to CDs.
>>218596107yeah vidya is the worst offender. there have always been revisions, but they were rare. you're putting that shit on a cartridge or a CD, you'd better get it right.our baseline standards for EVERYTHING have plummeted. you EXPECT a phone or game console to stop working properly in 5-10 years.
>>2185963282/2Like that's the whole reason why they use the word pirating in the first place, because it's different to stealing. They don't go around talking about stealing most of the time, because that's not exactly correct terminology. You're correcting them on something they hardly ever use. Dunno what is with this phrase that dumbasses feel the need to repeat it everywhere.
>>218595613Netflix guy is going to live past 50 though, and won't die from gangrenous diabetic wounds overtaking the stumps where his feet used to be. Yeah, I think I'd rather be Netflix dude.
>>218596168Well, I bought most of the CDs in the 90's so it has discs of bands that nobody talks about anymore, the bands that slowly get forgotten since they're not the biggest, but also lots of mainstream. The DVDs are similar. I would guess the most valuable one I have is the Simpson season that the Michael Jackson as a psych ward patient episode.
>>218595035FPBP>>218594998people finally did the math and figured out they are now paying more than they are gettingYou could buy the whole series for less than what it would cost to watch it all on a streaming serviceNow add 2 more streaming services.Thats almost $50 a month for less than you used to get with cable at that same priceUnless you are constantly binging you are not getting your full value>>218595213>he doesn't pirate then move it to a blu-ray disc after making a custom selection screenfag
>>218594998I'd love to see some actual numbers to support the "DVD is back!!!" narrative because from the outside, it really doesn't seem to be true. Most major studios have continued cutting back on releases. Lots of notable streaming productions don't get any physical release. Mainstream kids slop like Kpop Demon Hunters is limited to a collector's label rather than something you can buy at a normal store. Even Sony has dramatically downsized the amount of anime it puts out on disc and that's an audience of autists.
>>218595848vinyl is no longer the symbol for hipsters, it's the symbol of the richer than average gen z, with the poorer of them going with CDs as they not only last longer but are also a lot cheaper
>>218596328>>218596398there were pirate radio stations, back in the day they ONLY played music (without a loicense) which is what the people wanted. none of this 'news' or 'educational' nonsense.pirates WERE willing to switch to streaming for the convenience, but it's gradually became dogshit. official, legal routes should be competing with piracy for the best technology. why CAN'T i download a DRM-free .mkv file of a movie? nothing bad will happen if i do.a better model would be something like this:https://stallman.org/articles/internet-sharing-license.en.htmltl;dr: your ISP collects a small fee, it gets distributed to artists according to popularity.
>>218596616i agree with >>218596342, although people ARE going back to CDs (for some reason).you can get the same digital information over the internet, so the illusion of CDs is gone. it's like when games became discs then downloads.but i think most people listen to music as background noise. only stoners 'put on a record' to sit and listen to it.
>>218596328>at least don't fucking brag about it.i will continue to brag about it . cry harder
>>218595213The whole point of physical is that it forces you think and seriously choose what you really want to watch. All that effort to load a movie means you have to actually like the movie.Unlike Netflix where you are scrolling through dozens of pages of slop, and the low effort required to load a movie. Just a button press.
>>218596342>You're never going to get a return to CDs.Except the CD revival has already begun and the writing has been on the wall for a while. If you haven't been scooping them up while they're still dirt cheap then you're late to the party
>>218594998what age bracket we talking about here?cause millenial/gen x cinephiles never wanted to get rid of dvds
>>218595213>Digital files>>Click of a button, beginthis is why we are in this netflix hell btw, no friction meant that everyone started gorging on netflix infinite slop shows and movies that get released every week
>>218596928gen zhttps://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2026-02-23/why-gen-z-wants-to-buy-rent-dvds-blu-rays-in-age-of-streaming
>>218595213I do this only for Star Trek because Paramount+ is so awful. It's a hassle but the experience is worth it.
>>218596328it's just a bit of sophistry parroted by those too stupid to understand it. don't overthink it.
>>218595035My ISP says I have one more strike because I torrented a knight if the seven kingdoms.
>>218595035Not everything has seeds or is available in the resolution you'd want.
>>218596824this. i can sit and watch YouTube the same way i can eat snacks/junk food. that's on me, but the restrictions/effort were something we all took for granted.i think this is why people now have a more black-and-white view of a film or show being great and worth your time, or terrible and you ought to give it a miss. i went to see plenty of 6/10 films at the cinema or rented them on video, i had an enjoyable time.
>>218597030i don't care if they're doing it just to be trendy, genz-ers thinking dvds are cool is good
>>218597150britland?
Bittorret has worked perfectly well for the last 20 years. Everything is available in Pirate Bay the day after release. You don't need streaming. You don't need physical media. All you need is a hard drive and an internet connection, which you already have. Stop being retards debating which corporate dick to suck off.
>>218595213I'd support physical media if we went back to the late 90s/early 00s period where buying a VHS/DVD/whatever meant you also got tens of hours of behind the scenes shit. The only shit movies release anymore is bullshit PR interviews where the cast all sits in front of a green screen and spews a bunch of canned lines about how great (insert actor here) is and how much they loved working with (insert director here) and how great all the people at (insert production studio here) are.People don't want that, they like seeing all the nitty gritty details of shit going on behind the camera: The art design folks talking about coming up with concept art, the prop and model people going into detail about how they designed practical shit, the VFX guys going through their process, the actors getting up to shenanigans or going through training and rehearsal, etc. Lord of the Rings, Matrix, Hellboy, etc.I remember I had a two VHS tape special edition of Jurassic Park as a kid and the entire second tape was this hour-plus-long documentary narrated by James Earl Jones that went so deep into the making of the film; interviews with Spielberg and Crichton on developing the story and translating it to screen, concept art and storyboarding from the beginning of pre-production, early tests from when they were still experimenting with Harryhausen-style stop-motion for the dinosaurs, Stan Winston and Phil Tippet doing a deep dive on the animatronics, anecdotes from the actors, cool stuff from the VFX team, etc. I watched that tape so many times as a kid it degraded to the point of unwatchability.
>>218595968holy based sars sydney sweeney queen of MIGA (make india great again) sars my H1B
>>218597100doesn't Star Trek have some Special Edition bollocks too? i noticed the TOS releases on torrent trackers divide them into original special effects and new special effects.Buffy is the worst offender, fucking widescreen release where you can see boom mics and light stands. and if the effects were done digitally or on video, why not just scale them using bicubic or some other graphics sorcery? it'll be fine.
>>218597321>I'd support physical media if we went back to the late 90s/early 00s period where buying a VHS/DVD/whatever meant you also got tens of hours of behind the scenes shitkilling physical media also killed movie people's efforts to document the shit they worked on, nowadays production crew commentaries are a luxury, i remember hot fuzz having 5 different audio commentaries, one with tarantino, Raimi Spider-Man had two
>>218595045home video is what you send in to that blackish guy to try and win a prize if it’s funny enough. you don’t send him your cherished limited edition kinos. you thought you sounded so smart too, huh? only to end up actually pretentious. soo sad
>>218597457i understand physical media from an onwing things perspective but if you're one of those retards who thinks watching things in older formats like dvd and vhs is better than modern video formats/codecs you're a brainless faggot. soul doesnt exist nigga its just blurry/grain
>>218597243NTA but i always associated getting a scary letter with the US. all those Napster cases were the RIAA making an example of people, they were the internet bad guys once.one of our big ISPs actually did a promotion against the 'Digital Economy' Bill (anti-piracy)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3jkUhG68wYnowadays websites get blocked on the server/access end, it's not the user's responsibility. we have to protect the children, you see.
>>218597401The TOS BDs let you toggle between the remaster and the 1960s broadcast version. The TNG BDs only have the remastered effects. The broadcast version of TNG only exists on DVDs.
>>218595045it's like 'content', the term sounds overused but that's just what it is (think 'original content').physical media is just that. you can't really call it an analogue format because of analogue-vs-digital, and calling it video sounds like it's a video tape.
>>218597519Streaming services use really compressed video to the point where a lot of 4K streams have worse bitrates than a 1080p BD.
>>218594998>Stop using streaming silly goy buy the dvdshow about I do neither
>>218597650>The TOS BDs let you toggle between the remaster and the 1960s broadcast version.that's how they all should be, if the disc has enough space. default to whichever, but give people the option.Red Dwarf 'remastered' some of the episodes in the late 90s. they replaced the spaceship models with CGI, and removed the studio audience/laugh track. it comes off really awkward but they were interesting DVD extras.
DVDs look like shit and blu-rays are too expensive
>>218597763i only have a 1920x1080 screen but i still download 4K rips for this reason. with widescreen/cropping a lot of '1080p' rips end up with a much lower vertical resolution anyway.
>>218596328Fuck you I will proudly brag about pirating but I won't help anyone actually pirate and will do what I can to shut down illegal streaming sites because normies either learn to torrent or get nothing
>>218595195
>>218594998Piracy, you retard.
>>218595624I buy my movies on vinyl
>>218594998You're just a contrarian little twerp. Shut the fuck up.
>>218595085You hit the nail on the head
>>218594998Where can I easily watch shows. I watch movies on stremio but the shows I tried to watch don't work there. I want to watch true detective and borgia. I am on phone.
>>218596643>nothing bad will happen if i do.Innocent people died because you pirated a film and didn't pay the BBC loisense fee.
>10 minute unskippable introsno thanks
A friend asked if I had a copy of Hoppers I could upload to my shared Plex Server. So I moved pic related onto it.
>>218596156Plenty of companies called their VHS and Laserdisc releases "home video".
>>218595065and it sounds gay
>>218595085>if more people are into buying physical media we will have more of it and more old things will be getting blue ray releases>this is bad
>>218597933>DVDs look like shitthat's on you for not watching anything released after 2001
>>218596328You don't pay for music. So I (a musician) don't have to pay for anything. Simple maths.
>>218599465Weren't DVD's were 720p until Blue Ray?
why did normies discover pirating in the 2000s and never again
>>218598017Feh. 720 Yify rips are all any man ever needs.
>>218599520720p is still HD, dvds were like 567p or something close to it
>>218599267CoziTV tells me that AL loves the movie Hopper
>>218594998What's so "disingenuous" about it? Have you used any video streaming platform lately? They're crammed up the ass with fucking ads, not just YT, even Amazon Prime has ads, for all its faults at least Netflix had the decency not to put them. I'm not going to waste time watching ads for worthless shit I'm never going to buy just so I can look at some low quality slop for a few minutes.Genuinely if you dare to put ads on a paid streaming platform you deserve to get Luigi'd. Piracy is morally justified. In lieu of that, people fall back on physical
>>218595065Don't forget books on tape.
>>218599520DVDs were 480p/576p. but that's just resolution. a good 480p encode can look better than a 720p one
>>218599065that can't be real
>>218599065lmao we can't possibly hate ingerlund enuff innit
>>218596156no, no, that is "family home video"
>>218594998I never stopped buying discs
>>218595035this also retards telling on themselves thinking 480 is an acceptable way to watch kino
I pretty much only buy music and books. Movies are all shit so I just pirate them. I own a few BlueRays and I never watch them. Free streaming sites are a lot less annoying to use than paid ones. Why should people pay for inferior service.
>>218600157Blue rays are still DVD's
Sovl.
There's nothing disingenuous about it.Streaming was an amazing convenience and an amazing value during the time it killed off physical media. Netflix had fucking everything on it. You were getting all the media you could possibly want for $10. That's not the case now. It's no longer convenient or a good value to have 9 different streaming services which may or may not actually have content you want to watch. The value proposition has changed and the scales are no longer tipped in that direction.
>>218600350lol zardoz... I remember it was pretty funny at the beginning but then he got isekai'd into some fruity hippie utopia and it got very boring and we turned it off.>>218600374The free streaming services are less annoying to use and harass you less and respect you more than the paid ones. That is the core of the issue. The illegal services provide a better experience and respect the user more.
>>218594998Imagine being THIS autistic that nobody is allowed to grow or change their mind. I've been collecting DVD's, Blu Rays, etc for decades. Many of us collectors have been warning the streamers this day would come. Better late than never. But you, OP, are an autistic faggot.Also:>muh piracypiracy literally killed the money that was going in to these releases, and the reason the market cratered. This is why Paramount abandoned work on Star Trek Deep Space 9 and Voyager in HD because faggots weren't supporting the excellent work they did on TNG on blu ray. You're all a bunch of stupid parasites.
>>218597356Lol gottem
>>218600374>Netflix had fucking everything on it. You were getting all the media you could possibly want for $10.and they were operating at enough of a profit they started making their own shows. nowadays we talk about Netflix as filler/slop, but there was that period where 'Netflix Original Series' was a mark of quality.
>>218600374truth
>>218599557because they dumbed down computers for women
>>218596328it's unethical to not own something you bought, worse, lose access to something you bought
>>218595035That's illegal
>>218600950yep
>>218601779Yes.
Pirating has his blessing.
>>218602049
>>218602407One day I'll go to Polvos Azules and take pics for you guys.
>>218596328I authorized the sharing.T. Super King
>>218602407>>218602455what are these, pictures for formigas?
>>218602589It's all there is.
There is no practical reason to buy physical media over just getting a big HDD and filling it with your favorite movies and TV shows.I get buying movies and tv shows brand new to support them but if you buy used just for collecting you are an autist and an absolute retard.
>>218602881it's probably just a lack of sleep, but damn those are some tiny fonts. thought they were thumbnails at first, but the text rendering is pretty clear.is this just how you browse the internet, perfect-vision-anon?
>>218595325Nah, it was the norm throughout the world outside of North America because American jews are retards who couldn't capitalize on foreign markets effectively and so everyone just stole it.
>>218600950you can pirate on your phone tho
discs are inconvenient as fuck, I'd rather have a hard drive full of movies
>>218602049should I know who that is
>>218596643>pirates WERE willing to switch to streaming for the convenience, but it's gradually became dogshit. This is crucial. Music and video game piracy was rampant 15 years ago and services like Spotify, Steam and GOG have drastically reduced it because they allow people to buy stuff in a sensible way for cheap rates. People are more than willing to pay for something if you're not trying to fuck them in the ass, which is exactly what is happening with films and series. I'm not fucking paying 20$ a month per 4 or 5 streaming services required to get a full oversight of what's on the market, especially not when most of what's offered is low quality shovelware that I'm not interested in.
>>218603141I'm blind too. But if you search the directors' name plus "Polvos Azules", you're gonna find more pics of them being cute all happy to see their movies pirated.
