He is the literal cartoon fantasy of some Hollywood elitist left-winger’s concept of what a conservative looks like.In real life, this guy would have a Southeast Asian mail-order bride and would have been blinded by some “muh heartland” philosophy—not some neo-Nazi pervert with a black-girl fetish.
>>218607785you can tell Col. Lockjaw is real because he is literally me
>>218607785yeah, sure ,totally fictionalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0BTYi3h0UQ
He's definitely a Pynchon villain and Pynchon villains basically are cartoon tier. First as tragedy then as farce
>>218607991Sure, German leaders killed themselves and their families when the Russians approached, and the Japanese chose death before dishonor because they were just hypocrites with repressed sexual desires. They had no legitimate convictions regarding their beliefs.
>>218607991Meanwhile in reality these dudes are just chuds with mail order brides who want closed borders
>>218607824wtf i don't remember making this post
>>218607991god this guy had so much aura
>>218607785Isn't he Jewish?
>>218607785I think PTA was going by FRINGE, rare examples like some neo-nazi group in (RURAL) Texas (that Scaro/Lynne Ramsay were going to do a movie on) where the leader was dating a black woman. So a very extreme example is held up as the daily reality of normies.
>>218607785Sure he is.
>>218608268>happily married>chudDoes chud have no meaning anymore
>>218609330>>218607991>Swarthy Italians who think border patrol is cool are now neo-nazisOk
>>218607785His exaggerations and relying on the picaresque to avoid the fussy work of modulating tones or less obvious genre-bending (which koreans do explicitly like a magic trick, but Kiyoshi Kurosawa does on the sly) can be likened to manga/anime. Yes, PTA going anime-level exaggerations...is fine. Creativity should have no bounds of taste or morality, but NOT when it's tied to BIG money + POWERFUL political machines that distort reality then sells it to the public as a higher truth about reality, on top of the existing clusterfuck of propaganda machine that is mainstream media (October 7, antivax accused as killing people, warmongering all the time isn't accruing debt, etc.)
>>218607785it's a movie my man. I get you lil' chuddies are sensitive snowflakes but it's just a movie.
>>218609477yeah and its laughably stupid
>if you drive 3h to a protest you are a revolutionaryvs>no matter who you vote for, the datacenter is getting built. And you'll own nothing and be happyI wonder which one wins an oscars and which one doesn't get nominated
Grandpa Spicoli is a left wing asshole.He couldn't even show up to collect his award for making White supremacist men look like shit.Hope to hear of his AIDS contraction and death soon.
>>218607785OBAA is based on the Tom Pynchon novel from 1990, didn't he invent Lockjaw?
>>218610874Yes, but these chuds are too dumb to read.
>>218611478>>218610874No he is an adaptation of the main antagonist in Vineland named Brock Vond.
>>218608268Almost as if there may be a distinction between legal and illegal immigration, idk
>>218611678The only distinction is that the legal ones are harder to remove. They are just as destructive if not more so. Overton window is starting to shift towards denaturalizations thankfully.
>>218611626I haven't read Vineland yet, how exactly do Vond & Lockjaw differ? Is it merely a modernization in line with all the others made (to shift the setting from 1984 to 202X), or are there more serious divergences that actually make him into the PTA OC that OP asserts he is?
>>218611729>thankfullyThey're gonna use the one-drop rule against you, chuddie. They're gonna invent new blood matrices that make it so any relative you have going back 3 generations who has ever even eaten foreign food is gonna get your ass booted out of the country, if not killed in one of their new concentration camps or press-ganged into dying for Israel in Iran. You are nowhere near as safe from your own government as you think you are.
>>218610582The wrong brother died.
>>218612383>I haven't read Vineland yet, how exactly do Vond & Lockjaw differ?One is intelligent, seductive but corrupt while the other is psychotic and racist
>>218609057A gay aura?
>>218613461a cool aura
>>218613482Oh, well, if you say so, but deeply closeted, that's for sure.
>>218613430>AI summaryI wanted to hear the difference from someone who actually read the book, not a machine hallucinating what it thinks the correct response is.
>>218613564The machine is just repeating what people say about the book it literally quotes the fucking articles. Why are you anti ai retards so fucking annoyinghttps://screenrant.com/one-battle-after-another-original-ending-book-vineland-death/#:~:text=Vond's%20death%20late%20in%20Vineland,cut%20and%20his%20mission%20aborted.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3sLZSB_sM4https://variety.com/2025/film/news/one-battle-after-another-changes-vineland-1236527544/
>>218613499cope. that's what a real man looks like
>>218613641I can't exactly click the sources you provided through a screenshot, can I? I do appreciate you sharing them with me, and if you had done so in the first place I wouldn't have gotten upset.
>>218613703kek
>>218609378Yeah man, Italians have never displayed an inclination for fascism before
>>218613720Well I appreciate your candor.The youtube video is probably the closest to "hear the difference from someone who actually read the book"
>>218613726foid brained
>>218607785Anon, have you looked at America's Secret of Defense lately?
>>218607785The film shows a highly competent and professional officer working under Lockjaw who is organized, unemotional and successful. He was even played by an ex-military non-actor. Why do you think this was included, alongside Lockjaw who is completely ruled by his dick and his personal insecurities and fucks up constantly?
>>218613876The tall, handsome dude who’s had multiple wives (all white Christian women) and even cheated on some of them? The point of my post isn’t that there’s nothing to critique. It’s that PTA’s angle is one of total libtard delusion, completely divorced from reality.
>>218613982>ummm EXCUSE ME, he is an adulterer! so THERE!What a strange post.
>>218607991Boring ass vid but goddamn protesters are fucking cringe.
>>218607785You're saying there's an exaggerated character in a comedy?
>>218612383Vineland has almost nothing to do with OBAA
>>218614012>>218614036Why do you guys always resort to these retarded strawman tactics
>>218609356Chud, incel, racist, nazi, fascist just means "person I don't like"
>>218614080You answered a question about a politician by announcing that he has cheated on his wife.
>>218607785But we like heckling America because you're stupid.
>>218613430>fascistWhat did he do that was fascist?
>>218614109Doesn't answer my question and is yet another strawman
>>218607785>wah wah wah>why does the comedy satire movie have cartoon fantasy characters >this is totally unrealistic
>>218614299Not what I said. Good satire is rooted in truth, not some delusional caricture of whatever your criticizing.
>>218607785he's almost like a character from a thomas Pynchon novel or something like like. weird huh
>>218610164yes that's the point of doing a comedy satiredid you miss the part where he's trying to get info from the leftoid phoneline and totally stonewalled because he can't remember the passphrase the whole thing was about laughing at stupidity that's why that kind of movie is made
>>218614271Where is the strawman? You have a politician right now in real life, who is a complete clownshow caricature of a meathead faux-tough guy with no idea what he is doing and makes ridiculous comic book supervillain speeches. What about Lockjaw is supposedly unrealistic?
>>218614371obviously incorrect. dr strangelove was an all time great character and he was a cartoon Nazi, nothing like the actual respectable von Braun or other operation paperclip guys
>>218614391>88yo>Pynchon is going to die any day nowfug, it hurts already
>>218607785he styled him after himself
>>218614454>>218614424>>218614405YO THESE NIGGAS ACTUALY THINK OBAA IS GOOD AND ARE TRYING TO DEFEND IT AS A SERIOUS PIECE OF ART
>>218613811It is a great video for getting right to the point about the differences, especially the "Subcultures" section where he just lists off all these random characters from the book that don't get any mention in the film at all.The excerpt from the Screenrant article about Vond's death in the book, describing his return to the Earth, makes me think that it must be somewhat related to the book's title. I figure once I do pick it up, there will be many other scenes about the connections these many different characters have with the natural environment >>218614059Keyword being "almost" since the 4 central characters are all given the same attention & similar plot arcs even as dissimilar as their actual characterizations are.>>218614454>respectable von BraunSome have harsh words for this man of renownBut some think our attitudeShould be one of gratitudeLike the widows and cripples in old London townWho owe their large pensions to Wernher von Braun
>>218614593no I'm not I'm saying it's funny and a comedy. the exact opposite argument. I'm saying you're retarded for trying to evaluate it as serious art
>>218614454>dr strangelove was an all time great character and he was a cartoon NaziBeing a cartoon is okay. My issue is the lack of basis in reality. Lockjaw isn't a caricature of anything real. Nazis and German scientist defectors existed. Lockjaw has no basis in reality beyond some out-of-touch director's imagination.
>>218614746I refer you back to one of the first posts in the thread >>218608268
>>218614784>Guy openly embracing his ethnic wife>Neo-nazi with repressed feelings towards minoritiesI posted that and my point along with my original post is that him and Lockjaw are ideologically different and PTA's lockjaw isn't based on anything real.
>>218614860Both examples play upon the thought-patterns of rightoids to believe they are the sole exceptions to their contradictions. The Christmas Adventurers Club would want that ICE Neo-Nazi dead just as much (both are neo-nazis, don't think I missed you trying to absolve him of that).
>>218614746you're watching a movie with a cabal of millionaires who literally take the precepts of Saint Nicholas deadly seriously and have an office building with a gas chamber installed for disposing of undesirables if at any point you were watching the obviously ridiculous over the top premises of the movie and thinking about how needed to be based on anything real you were already approaching it wrong as something it was never attempting to do
>>218607785>uggghhhh I made juice again I made juice in the black lady’s front butt!
>>218614593Yo this conservatard is trying to be hip and with it by using twitter speak and AAVE. Don’t you hate black folks anyway Timmy
>>218607785doesn't lockjaw mean you try to gobble a massive cock and dislocate your jaw?ha ha, white men truly are cocksuckers
>>218615202just because it was intentional does not mean its good>>218615130Secret evil nazi clubs is the cartoon fantasy shit I was talking about. It's fucking retarded
>>218616066>Secret evil nazi clubs is the cartoon fantasy shit I was talking about>>218614746>LOCKJAW has no basis in reality
>>218616149I don't even know what you're trying to argue. All I am saying is, I think it's a stupid caricature, and I guess you guys think it's a good caricature, because I don't know
>>218614746>Lockjaw has no basis in realityWhat aspects?
>>218616250>I don't knowProbably the first accurate thing you've said all thread.
>>218613874Keep going, please
>>218616259The whole creepy weirdo with a black girl fetish doesn’t represent any meaningful or significant type.
>>218616440I would like to point you toward the board on which you are currently posting.
>>218616440>The whole creepy weirdo with a black girl fetish
>How come this movie character isn't the same as a real person???retarded chud seething that a movie made fun of his retarded political views
>>218616538Do you get paid to post this?
>>218616582yeah im a part of a big jewish conspiracy like everyone else that disagrees with you
>>218616440
>>218616618Holy shit! You should kill yourself then
>>218613743It's not fascist to control your borders and deport illegal immigrants.
>>218616440hey, don't call me creepy
>>218616368you're just gay as hell
>>218616538Uh yeah, good art should be an imitation or representation of reality not some neurotic faggots delusion of it
>>218616776He's passing as me to get to you
>>218615957Go to bed simu
>>218609356Look at the eyes. Hes happy with her, but hes not happy in general.also yeah, idk what a chud is anymore.
Lockjaw is doing those dudes a favor
>>218615202Reminds me of how people were talking about the Louis Theroux documentary on Reddit and talked about how all the dudes had single moms. One commenter disagreed, pointing how the kid in Adolescence had a dad. At least even on Reddit they bothered to point out it's a fictional show. But this shows how people just eat this up as if it's real life.
