Book Frodo:>Attacks Barrow Wight, tempted to escape but determined not to leave his friends behind>Takes a swing at the Witch King at Weathertop and slices part of his cloak off>Defiantly resists the Black Riders at Rivendell, demanding they will never have him or the ring Movie Frodo:>AHHHH HELP ME SAM HELP ME STRIDER >Saved by Arwen instead of riding himself And this is just Book 1 of Fellowship. Why was he changed so much in the movies?
>>218633075Tolkien would have hated the movies. Not because of the action or hollywood shenanigans. But because they turned Gimli into a comic relief character. Tolkien despised the ridicule of dwarfs.
>>218633176That too. Gimli doesn’t have one line that isn’t a joke or him being an imbecile
a lot of the character of hobbits is defined in the old forest and barrow downs, sucks that it was cut but thats a fundamental change.>>218633333checked
>>218633075Frodo is a wuss in the movies and the book>sam its so heavy sam>sam I cant do it sam>samI skip frodo and sam on rewatches usually. Reading, its tempting to skip them there too.Rest of the story is great but frodo is a wuss. Bilbo was stronger, had the ring longer, and didnt impact him as much
>>218633333Wrong wtf theres so many>One Dwarf yet in Moria >So the Fellowship has failed..>She gave me 3Now that I think about it Fellowship he wasen't really comic relief that was later in TT and ROTK
>>218633075If bookfags had their way, 90 percent of the trilogy would be camping and faggy songs.
>>218633868Bilbo was also living in his comfy hole that whole time, and didn’t have Sauron actively gunning for his ass.
These movies were always overrated. Fellowship is the best one because the Bilbo part is awesome
>>218633075I've never seen the extended editions of the movies. Do the extra 2-3 hours actually help cases like frodo being useless, or do they just add more action scenes and stupid world building talking about the ancient lore of a destroyed elf building that was erected 40,000 years ago where they drank mead and sang songs about the grass
>>218634054The EE’s are the definitive way to watch them.
>>218634111For the hobbit too by chance? I heard those were just pointless filler
>>218634236No the only way to watch the hobbit is not to watch it
>>218634236there is a watchable hobbit edit that cuts like 90% of the films
>>218633075Frodo and the group weren’t attacked at Weathertop in the book. Gandalf was attacked at Weathertop.
>>218633075short """men""" can't be heroes
>>218634297It was shortly after in the same chapter , they left weathertop when they saw the Black Riders approaching >>218633868Frodo is far less a wuss in the book than the movies. He’s literally made to be punished by the story the entire time
>>218633868I think the ringbearer concept works better in the books because you imagine Sam as the man servant he is instead of a basically identical pretty boy Hobbit like Frodo So you see Sam doing fine and Frodo just seems like a moper. The weight of the ring doesn’t factor in
>>218634530They’re historically the only ones who did heroic things. It was a back door to puss. Tall men just fucked around resting on their laurels
>>218634279Still three hours too long
>>218634236That’s the opposite. You’ll want the “Book Edit” for that. Cuts the trilogy down to a single film about the same length as Return of the King Extended.
>>218633075He tells Gollum he'll use the Ring to make him kill himself as well
>>218634986I’m not going to pretend like there isn’t a good movie to be had in there. It was just bloated with bullshit.
>>218633075The crazy thing is the hobbits could have actually taken at least four of the Ringwraiths at Weathertop maybe all 5(that attacked)
>>218635099there's an okay movie to be found inside there, none of its good
>>218635128How do you figure that? They’re literally immortal, barring special circumstances.
>>218633954We'd also have Tom Bombadil, the barrowwhites, and radagast
>>218635183I’m also not going to pretend like it’s amazing but on the level of “I really like Lord of the Rings, and would like to spend a little bit more time in Middle-Earth,” it serves its purpose.
>>218635284if it was actually filmed on location or even a soundstage sure but theres so much fucking cgi in the hobbit its extremely worthless for that purpose.
>>218635217They all have swords that can kill them
>>218635284There’s a few fanedits of the hobbit which is the best one?
>>218634961OTTOMHAudie Murphy
>>218633075>Defiantly resists the Black Riders at Rivendell, demanding they will never have him or the ringThat kind of upset me the most when I read it. That was an extremely heroic and character defining moment in the book and it's just given to Arwen in the movies.Also Elrond and Gandalf summon the Wrath of the Bruinen and not Arwen.
>>218633954>yes.jpg
>>218635421You start to notice it everywhere once you begin paying attention. And it just makes complete logical sense from an evolutionary perspective.
>>218635323Jesus, I get it, you don’t like it.
>>218638999have you seen the movies? it might be that you can't comprehend the scale of it
>>218635333They didn’t get those until Galadriel gave those to them as they were leaving Lothlorien. The ones they’ve got at Weathertop are just shitty toothpicks that Aragorn managed to scrounge up.
>>218635363If you google “Hobbit Book Edit”, I think that’s generally the agreed upon best one. The Maple Films edit isn’t bad either.
>>218639029I just think that we disagree, and that nobody is changing anyone’s mind. Notice how I didn’t resort to insults?
>>218639052no the opposite of that, the barrow down swords were westernesse blades made specifically to kill the witch king
>>218633930I'll give you one for TTT>This is no rabble of mindless orcs: these are Uruk-hai. Their armor is thick, and their shields broad.I also liked his delivery of "he fell" to Eowyn when they get to Helm's Deep. Simple yet effective, granted it was in reference to the Aragorn fakeout death which was kind of stupid. And then aside from the "aye, I can do that" line, all of Gimli's lines in ROTK are comedyslop.
>>218634771>Frodo is far less a wuss in the book than the moviesHe still is one. The other 3 hobbits I like but have never cared for frodo. If anything Jackson gave an accurate portrayl with him vs the other characters Have Bilbo carry the ring and he gives it up willingly at mount doom.
