Perhaps my heckin media literacy is low, but I don't get the whole choose life segment at the start of TrainspottingWhat's wrong with the things he lists?>film is called trainspotting>not a single train
>>218662686> What's wrong with the things he lists?Being an average goy sheep is a boring life
>>218662686They're idiot drug addicts trying to justify their choices. They kill a baby through neglect for petes sake, their opinions are worth shit
>>218662686For reference:>Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suit on hire purchase in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pissing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourselves. Choose your future.>Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaP7qmsQbSII don't think the author truly indicts these things. I think it's a mix of gen x cynicism towards the conventional markers of modest success, the human realization that a life well-lived consists of a lot of unsexy things, and, above all, illustrating that Renton is a contemptuous, ungrateful shitbag because using heroin makes everything else in existence suck by comparison.
Electrical tin opener is far better than heroin
>>218662743They criticise the normie lifestyle, but they have no grip on their own life.Especially in a place like Edinburgh where it's more posh, druggies pull up their nose looking at rich people living their life. In Glasgow the normie lifestyle is like a drug addict.
It appeals to young people who dont want to grow up, have kids, think about buying washing machine etc., and on the ground level of the movie he just lists troubles he doesnt need because he has heroin. Overall the movie is about being young
Trainspotting is going to an abandoned tram station to get high. The novel explicitly explains the title but they cut the sequence because it involves Begbie meeting his father and Begbie being shown in a sympathetic light.As for the "chose life" thing; the characters are a bunch of worthless hipsters who reject normal life, calling it banal and boring in favor of the "glamorous" life of a drug addict. In the end, Ewan McGregor's rejects his junky life for normal life once he reaches his breaking point with Begbie and his bullshit
>>218662686He’s referring to a feeling that some people get, especially if they’re unusually bright, that life is tedious, lonely, painful and generally not worth living. This feeling is of course hugely amplified in the suburbs.
It's about the mundane experience of sobriety, normalcy, the boredom ("life").. or you can choose a different life, that of heroin.
"Choose Life" was an anti-drug slogan in the 80s, made famous by some shirts that were made even more famous when George Michael wore one in the "Wake Me Up Before You Go Go" music video. So it was something that normies would wear and the slogan would be something that they would spout as an overused platitude. "DON'T CHOOSE DRUGS, CHOOSE LIFE". It taps into the debate about whether drug addiction is a choice or not.In Trainspotting, Mark uses the phrase and then lists a bunch of normal boring things that a regular person would "choose" as an extension and explanation of "CHOOSE LIFE" actually means. He then uses that to construct this pseudo-argument to justify why he's a heroin addict - "I just chose NOT to choose being just another regular Joe. Why? I don't know, maybe because it's shite being Scottish".
>>218662850They go i to it inbthe sequel when biggie finds the book spud is writing. Trainspotting is also a very boring and niche hobby, like drug use.
>>218662686In the 90s it was cool to complain about corporations and consumerism and strive for "authenticity". But the latter often just amounted to becoming a drug addict and going to raves.
>>218662686"Choose life" was the slogan of an anti-drug program Scotland had at the time, but it's also about a how a bunch of young heroin addicts don't want to live "normal" lives, and end up like their parents. My interpretation of the title "Trainspotting" is that it refers to seeing track marks on the arms of addicts, though I might be wrong on that
>>218662686>>218662755>Choose Netflix. Choose TikTok.
>>218664972>choose ukraine>choose palestine
>>218662686he is saying choose life (which is all of those things he mentions) instead of choosing heroin.
>>218662850turns out theres like a semi sequel book that just focuses on begsbie but it reveals/changes him into some serial killer whose actually smart? was really weird to read, didnt finish it
>>218662686>called trainspotting>no trainspottingWhata a fucking ripoff, the FCC should've fined them for lying
Replace drugs with NEET and you will find 10 anons on any board who agree with it.
In the book there's a chapter where they go into the ruined, abandoned Leith Central train station and meet some homeless guys, one of whom is Begbie's father, who jokingly asks them if they are trainspotting in the empty station full of junkies. So thematically the title is referring to the abandonment of outlying Leith where the characters live by the central city government, and more broadly the divisions between Scotland and England, rich and poor, working class and ruling class.In the film they take a train to the famous railway station in the Highlands where the "it's shite being Scottish scene" happens.
>>218666552Thankfully now they have been replaced by Arabs and Indians so everything is much better.
>>218666659Scotland has always been diverse.
>>218666673Yes big brother
>>218662686It's explained in T2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgsfVJMWL0E
>>218662686It's deliberately childish and facile, the whole film is about boys stuck in a state of arrested adolescence refusing to grow up. And trainspotting, interest in trains, is seen as a childish pastime any real adult man should grow out of.
This movie is about people like meOnly thing is that my drug of choice is video games and being terminally online watching shit.I dont care about anything else for years.
>>218666552I always got the feeling the title was supposed to be that of a hobby in which people don't understand why or how some one could be interested in that particular hobby. As in what's the point in seeing a train go by / what's the point in heroin but only those type of folk seek enjoyment or fulfilment from doing so.
Do you really need to be gen x to understand basic sarcasm and irony?
>>218662686>not a single trainYou're wrong.
>>218662686At the begining it's sardonic and is basically Mark le epic reddit posting on normies who he has contempt for but at the end it's sincere bcause he is no longer anourmed with his own misery and has realised his friends, who he doesn't have much of a high opinion of, with the exception of Spud and Tommy, are holding him back (not necessarily the heroin but that also plays into it) and after leaving Edinburgh and his friends behind he's excited to begin living life as a normal, functioning member of society.>>218667553No, I'm a zoomer and understood this when I first watched it 13.
>>218664871honestly the world was better off when slackers could get a shitty apartment in nyc or whatever for $450/month and just do whatever odd kramer scheme they did to get itnow everyone has to have a real job just to live anywhere and the people you interact with for service all day don't give the slightest shit and they're dumb as hell
I got to the toilet scene and dropped it. Too filthy for me.
>>218664594why is he black here
Lust for life
Don't shake the baby
>>218664594>George MichaelWasn't he a massive cokehead?
>>218662686Bait me harder>>218662714youre brown
>>218669844>Implying Israelis aren't brown.
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>>218662686The point is that glassin' lassies will get you the fat end of a pool que right in the puss, lest you mind the fookin cards and be a proper cunt down at the Volley.
>>218662686Doesn’t the ending show that in the end he chooses life and says goodbye to his shitty crack head life?
>>218670443Yes, but his idea of "life" is being a wageslave goy who is plugged in to the Zio-matrix. When in reality, if you actually want to experience life, you need to either abandon everything and live in the forest or kill yourself.
>>218670443back then the normalfag life was much better
>>218662850That's what happens in that scene but that's not what trainspotting means; it's the act of going to a busy train station full of traveling people and asking them to spot you some cash. The homeless dad from the book who asks them if they're trainspotting in the abandoned Edinburgh train yard is so out of his mind that he doesn't seem to realize the train way is closed
>>218670443>>218670716Back in the day you could just "decide" to have a normal life even if you were a retarded druggie and society would just give it to you. Now I can't get a fucking normal life and I've never touched a single drug ever.
>>218670443It's more bleak in the sequel
>choose a negroni, choose two, choose lif-ACK
What are some other films with orphaned titles that make sense in the source material but not in the film? The only other one I can think of OTOH is A Clockwork Orange.
>>218672199Boys, the pussy is never worth it, trust me
>>218672266the ass is tho
>>218672199She wouldn't really tell. You're right otherwise. But in this case, Macdonald is super hot.
>>218672199HAIRY ASS SHIT FUCK AHHHH
Trainspotting is Scottish slang for homosexual anal sex
>>218669907I choose black pusy
>>218662686it's boring being a retarded wageslave
how is the sequel? i loved the original but i imagine its pretty far removed
>>218672199She was part of Epstein's network.
>>218674042it's surprisingly good imo. it's not just nostalgia-bait (though there is some of that), it's a decent story on its own.
>>218674042it's worth a watch. not as good as the first, but enjoyable enough.
>>218669493>why is he black herehe's greek, they're POC
>>218671046>but that's not what trainspotting means; it's the act of going to a busy train station full of traveling people and asking them to spot you some cashno it isn't, its literally just noting down train numbers in a little book, these days they use digital cameras instead of notebooks, its a hobby for the autistichttps://youtu.be/16kCRTFJr04?si=CwfVEfEjAN2PXlSc
>>218674042The sequel is good, but it sometimes strains credulity. Begbie is too overpowered and gets away with too much. He breaks out of jail and then goes to live with the mother of his only son, which is the FIRST place the police would look for him, but they don't have anyone watching the house because Begbie is blessed with magic plot armour.
>>218674042it feels very made for TV. I can't believe it's a theatrical release because it looks like Netflix Slop that would get publicity going for a week and then be forgotten forever. They recreate and do nods to every single scene like as if you have Alzheimer's and forgot all of it. They constantly show clips of the first movie in such an excessive way it's like Silent Night Deadly Night 2. nobody looks attractive either.Maybe it was intentional but it feels like a sad middle aged man trying to recapture his youth. it's so ugly. it's sort of interesting the way that it shows current Scotland is just these dull grey apartments. A generic world where there's no history to anything. It really assumes in this strange needy way that you've been waiting to see what happens to these characters, it's very soapy in that way. The dialogue is so made for TV drama. Nothing that comes out of anyone's mouths is lyrical or interesting or kind of nuanced people are just talking in a very ordinary way and the main difference is that all of the dialogue in the original film was written by a talented writer and this was by a bunch of writers workshoping what people might want to know and see about these characters that they imagine people are still interested in.
>>218672199she never looked better
>>218676008those things happen irl as well
>>218662686So what are they doing here you dumb faggot? Didn't even watch the movie.
>>218676033>Maybe it was intentional but it feels like a sad middle aged man trying to recapture his youth.definitely intentional, all the characters are supposed to be losers
heroin and crack are the only 2 drugs ive never done (besides obscure hallucinogens only third worlders get access too) propaganda failed me on every other drug but not on heroin which I assume I could never come back from (i've done oxy and it definitely felt like the best life was ever gonna be), crack I would do for sure if I had some but I don't buy drugs from niggers, too risky
>>218676264>back turned to the trainWelsh you hack
>>218662686The idea is that the heroin lifestyle was partly hipsters trying to be counterculture and bohemian and it was an expression of their rejection of mundane life. It shows you the motivations behind being a drug addict before showing what a stupid fucking decision it is.
>>218677759>I could never come back from (i've done oxy and it definitely felt like the best life was ever gonna be)The "trick" is to get it from a source that won't have it regularly or that you won't use regularly, such that you only have access to the H once or twice. Also, it's just okay if you snort it -- it feels warm and sedating, but you don't get the euphoric rush unless you shoot it. I wouldn't shoot anything, because it's dangerous -- I always told myself I'd do H once if there were a medical professional who had 99% pure stuff, knew the perfect dose to use to avoid adverse effects but get higher than fuck, and who wouldn't harm you with the IV.So the first time I had access I just snorted it, which was a bit disappointing, not quite as energetic and euphoric as oxy, but still very nice. Finally got around to trying IV because I was with a relatively smart person who seemed capable of IV'ing without fucking me up.The rush was really really wonderful -- but it's not worth it AT ALL. Not worth risking overdose, getting caught, etc., etc. I'd much rather just have genuine painpills and not get a rush since it's really easy to control that type of dosing. Anyway -- H is worth snorting a couple times, but don't IV unless it's a near ideal situation. I totally agree RE oxy -- if you could buy oxy in a store without a prescription, I've have been dead within 2-3 years of first doing so. Lovely stuff that is. I suppose I wish I was one of those people who don't enjoy opiates. God they are beautiful.I don't really know shit about crack.
>>218662686It's ironic, listing the common sense life goals like they were advert slogans. The book starts with trainspotting (like a healthier alternative for compulsive/addictive behavior) before the whole "scene" of full blown druggies.
