Principal Photography began! The film that would go on to revolutionize the film industry. So many /tv/tards have no idea how different this film was for its time. Lucas had to pull Matte Painting artists out of retirement and there were NO Special Effects houses in existence that he could just hire, he had to assemble his own from scratch.One of his own hires, John Dykstra, created the Dykstraflex camera system that allowed drastically improved special effects that was used well into the 90's.If you really want to know how bad things were, go watch Damnation Alley (1977) that opened the same weekend as Star Wars, which studios had assumed was going to actually beat SW at the box office!Star Wars led the the massive explosion of Sci Fi and genre films that followed. Even more than Jaws, Star Wars was the biggest reason for studios dumping more money into more box office spectacles, and the team that created the special effects went on to work on so many iconic films.Happy 50th Anniversary to the First Day of filming!
It’s slop.
>creates Lucasfilm>creates Industrial Light & Magic>creates LucasArts>creates THX>creates Skywalker Sound>key founder of Pixar>60s artsy auteur that remained the sole creator and owner of the single biggest new intellectual property in human history of the last half a century for 35 years of his life>did what he wanted, when he wanted, with always a vision behind it most people unironically didn't get>the moment he let go, everything crashed and burned Happy birthday to Star Wars. George Lucas won.
Must've been pure magic to see it in theatres. Like the Northern Lights coursing through your veins.
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>>218814294Yeah? I call him a hack anonymously on 4chan and he can't stop me so... actually I win
>>218814303It was. Even since Star Wars, how many films leave you feeling good or cheering at the end of the film?Pure Lightning in a Bottle. This is why the merchandising was everywhere, not because it was forced on the public, but because the public had a voracious appetite for it.
Trolls mad. Truly a lost generation. I remember watching Empire and falsely assuming we'd always be getting films of that caliber. The 80's was full of innovation all thanks to Star Wars.
>>218814167>go watch Damnation Alley (1977) that opened the same weekend as Star Wars,Why do you lie?
>>218814167>One of his own hires, John Dykstra, created the Dykstraflex camera system that allowed drastically improved special effects that was used well into the 90's.And then Lucas fired him because Dykstra spent all the ILM budget on the Dykstraflex without producing a single finished shot
>>218814237FPBP
>>218814652Literally false. Dykstra was never fired, he just wasn't rehired to work on Empire. He stayed through the end working on Star Wars you stupid cunt.
>>218814294APOLOGIZE
>>218814733Post tits, Chloe
>>218814294>Puts Kathleen Kennedy in charge>Sells to Yidsney>Complains and compares Yidsney to "White Slavers" after his legacy gets destroyedYou're right, he achieved great things and "won", only to have his own decisions lead to his own major losses.
>>218814920He literally has more money than he can spend in 10 lifetimes. He'll be fine.
>>218814167He made Frank Herbert very salty, he considered legal action against Lucas. In my opinion I think Dune and Star Wars similarities more so lie in the fact that they are both clearly rip offs of Lawrence of Arabia.
>>218814294>only biological child is with a black womanThe white race won
>>218814973>Money buys happiness!!!!Oh look, another retarded /tv/ poster.>>218814992>only biological child is with a black womanLucas has literally been sterile since his car crash as a teenager. You know nothing, faggot.
>>218815091Penis status?
>>218814976How the fuck do you figure SW is a Lawrence of Arabia ripoff?
>>218814167We'd have you upside down with a fuckin fork up your ass
>>218814294What a fucking CHAD BVLL.
>>218815427is he standing in front of a green screen in the right photo
>>218814294https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBSonGKp_4Q
Do you guys think people would still talk about Star Wars daily if it ended in prequels?
>>218815868People don't "talk" about star wars daily. It's posted daily by disingenuous subversives using ragebait topics and images they know are sore spots for fans then fan the flames with samefag posts and insults. It's intended to look organic but just purposefully trying to keep anons angry, seething, and exhausted. "Aren't you so angry about this thing we've telled about a thousand times for ten years? Aren't you sooo le tired?!"
>>218815715Witwer's such a good storyteller.
>>218814167Ruined movies and open the gates for ai to come and kill filmmaking for good. I spit on your thread and George Lucas. A race mixing idiot.
>>218815868The 2000s was Star Wars at its most alive precisely because of the plethora of new worldbuilding the PT brought about which they then extended with books and comics and games. When the IP was sold things like 1313 or Underworld were under development. George could've never made any Sequels and the IP would've still been more alive than it is in a post-TLJ, post-Solo, post-TROS, post-Acolyte world.
>>218816045He's one of the rare good things about Star Wars today.
I wish I could've been born before cinema was infantilized
>>218814167That movie was actually very boring for the most part, SW reached his cult potential with ESB who improved everything. The first movie was really mid and the "adventure" inside it is exaggerated by boomer fans who turned it into a big ass adventure with tons of stuff who never happened actually.
>>218815970>It's intended to look organic but just purposefully trying to keep anons angry, seething, and exhausted.Holy Shit an anon that actually gets it! And you know a lot of it comes from Rian and his little "perpetually online" buddies, right? They admitted how much they enjoyed trolling online long before Rian even got the SW job.I'd literally bet money that Rian helped fund that RLM video where they melted all those vintage Star Wars figures in acetone and made sure to highlight they had some rare ones in there like Yak Face. Rian could not get adulation from his SW work so he instead chose to rile up the fans. I can almost hear his squeaky little voice crying out "why don't you love meeeee" with every troll post.
>>218816292>That movie was actually very boring for the most partobvious troll is obvious. And pathetic. And probably already attempted other troll posts in this thread.
>>218816422A New Hope is boring anon, it has many boring places and characters are very cheesy. It only has some moments. Only boomers worship that.
>>218817409>ZOOM ZOOM!
>>218814167that sounds quite expensive, how did he pay for all of that?
>>218814294>of the single biggest new intellectual property in human history That would be Pokemon
>>218814167Congrats George, you ruined film.
>>218814294Lucas purists will never stop winning. Mike lost, Reddit lost.
three days ago I boughted a star wars toy :)now I make them go "whoosh" and make "pew pew" sounds with my mouth
>>218819145Not even close.
>>218819688For star wars.
>>218814167pseuds kept saying this shit would flop but I always knew it's gonna be a massive success
>>218819120He funded his multi-million movie with the nickels your mom earned sucking dick.
>>218816110>Ruined moviesDie, pseudie.
>>218819861>Look Ma! I went to Wikipedia College!>huehuehue
>>218814294>>the moment he let go, everything crashed and burned
>>218816110>open the gates for ai to come and kill filmmaking for good.>ESL language takeum.........ok? And yet, most are using AI to make.....Star Wars videos, because Disney isn't giving the fans what they want. Oh Noes, your job as the set fluffer is in peril! Wahhhhhh!!
>>218814167This faggot got rich for life for posing like a queer for 3 months
>>218819861>retard equates "biggest" solely with highest grossing Yeah no shit a company that released over 100 games in the medium that contains the single best selling piece of art ever created made more money than a guy that only made six movies. Star Wars is still the single biggest new intellectual property in human history of the last 50 years.
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>>218820162Because Lucas idea for Sequel Trilogy happening in micro verse was so much better.
>>218820106>This faggot got rich for life for posing like a queer for 3 monthsKek. No he didn't. He got paid more for hosting QVC shows than he did acting in the first film. God you morons are tiresome.
>>218820121>a guy that only made six movies.>only six>I'm a heckin' EXPERT>but I heckin forgot THX1138.......American Grafitti.......Tucker: A man and his dreams......all the shit he produced.....Red Tails......yeah
>>218820190>in micro verseLiterally was never a thing and you've just told me everything I need to know about you from that statement. Do yourself a favor, read George's actual quotes, and don't believe some random fucktard online who misinterpreted them to believe you were gonna go into a Magic School Bus-tier Quantumania realm, you absolute monkey.
>>218814167AI slop forgot to add a 2nd shade
>>218820256Only six *in the intellectual property that's the focus of this thread*, yes. Do you count Zelda sales as part of Pokemon's, too? Were your parents related? Like, before marrying?
>>218820197>God you morons are tiresome.then fuck off
>>218820190>Sequel Trilogy happening in micro verse>AH READS DAT SOMEWHERE >DEFEFORE AH HECKIN THINKS DA WHOLE THING LITERALLLLLLY TAKES PLACE IN A HECKING MICRO VERSE!!!!!He'd already literally gotten Hamill and Fisher signed up and you think everything is ALL about amoebas and shit because of one stupid comment. You literally have NO idea how that micro verse was going to weigh in to the actual fucking plot. You're fucking retarded.
>>218820296>Do you count Zelda sales as part of Pokemon's, too?No, I don't, but then I'm a different poster. I just thought it interesting how you're acting like you know everything and I can just hear George mumbling in his little voice to rattle off his filmography. Don't fucking whine to me you little bitch for your shitty grammar.>>218820297>then fuck offNo. It's my thread, faggot. You casuals are just shitting it up. This board used to be something until you zoomers and dishwashers showed up.
>>218820453I'll take that as a 'yes' on the related parents, then.
>>218820272>>218820322Ooooh, struck a never, that you're favorite boomer director might not be a secret genius, and made SW good by total accident. Good thing his ex saved Episode 4 ending from being garbage. I even forgive her seeking another dick, because even that was Lucas fault.
>>218820121>STOP THE COUNTSorry but it also counts countless starwars games, figurines, disney series and more. You might not wanna hear this but the original Pokemon had a lower budget and was made by 10 fucking people. Meanwhile only in the editing isle for the first SW there were already more people. So if anything the merit is on Pokemon. >10 people vs 400>a couple thousand dollars vs 11 millions>idea completely novel and inspired by the life of the creator itself vs lets just copy paste dune and some of the pulp serials I read/watched as a kid, also japanese moviesBy any metric Pokemon success mogs whatever SW ever did.
>>218820521>t.
But seriosuly, what was that microverse idea. Oooooh, Luke and Han fighting midihlorians in your blood, epic!
Oh, Lucas is a genius director? Tell me about all the succes he had outside his dumb luck with SW, with was carried by actors and other people anyway.
>>218814167>Damnation Alley (1977)Jesus
>>218820727>Lucas is a genius director?Yes.
>>218814294I kneel.
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>>218820495>gets into argument with another anon>can't even argue properly>George only made SIX FILMS!>Thinks every anon is the same anon>n.n.no YOUR parents are heckin' related!!!kwab>>218820521Whew lad, look at all that ESL!>struck a never>you're favorite boomer directoryou are favorite boomer director?>made SW good by total accident.Where did I say he didn't? Where did I say he was my favorite boomer director? Ooooh, you have literally nothing and can only jump to conclusions like a typical retard.Lucas succeeded with Star Wars because he surrounded himself with excellent collaborators. You can already see the faults in ROTJ after Kurtz left and he couldn't lean on his wife as they were divorcing, you see how bad his ideas were with the Special Editions, and you see how utterly off the rails he went with the Prequels, especially having Rick McCallum constantly blowing smoke up his ass, never challenging him, and saying "great idea George!" to everything.But hey, keep swinging while you seethe. You sound like a fucking retard zoomer. Many of us can appreciate things while still acknowledging their faults. George was never perfect.
>>218820658>Oooooh, Luke and Han fighting midihlorians in your blood, epic!Please show us where in the script that scene occurs.Oh, wait, you can't. It's all in your head! Oooooh!This is like saying the OT was going to be the same thing if George had said in an interview it was all about a mystical energy field that binds the galaxy together. You are a dimwit who cannot contextualize. KYS.
>>218820857Nigga gets every one of his talking points from YouTube videos
>>218820857>he believes Marcia Lucas saved SW in the editOh no no no no no no...
>>218820932>Please show us where in the script that scene occurs.Oh, wait, you can't. It's all in your head! Oooooh!Well yeah, it was all in Lucas head, because why would he write it down if he wasn't gonna make it? Duh.
>>218820984What? everyone knows its true.
>>218820727>Oh, Lucas is a genius director? Tell me about all the succes he had outside his dumb luck with SWEdit Droid. He literally conceptualized and made digital editing stations a reality. I love how disingenuous you little faggots are, it really gives one insight into just how pathetic and pitiful you little pukes are>EINSTEIN? Ehrmagerd what ELSE did he come up with besides E=MC Squared? Huehue I'm so smaht!
>>218821031Is that "everyone" in the room with us right now? Did they look up what scenes Marcia fought to keep in ANH?
>>218821031no one who knows how a fucking movie is made believes that. Thats feminist revisionism like those netflix documentals
All i see is a lot os myogyny agains marcia.
>>218821105LMAO look at all the 4 chan experts.
>218820857 (You)
>>218820947>noooooooo>nobody had an opinion or knowledge about Star Wars until youtube came around!Fucking plebian>>218820984>he believes Marcia Lucas saved SW in the editImagine being this fucking retarded that that's the best you can come up with. She's LITERALLY the person that came up with the Trench Run being a "race against the clock" countdown to the Rebel's own destruction, when George had it as a typical just another battle. Tell us more how little you know.Also: George at various points wanted:>Han Solo to be a green alien>the main cast to all be midgets>the main cast to all be NIGGERSYou cannot fathom in your tiny little fucking brain that she was literally the only person that could get through to George and tell him when his ideas were bad? Fucking grow up. Imagine if she hadn't emotionally checked out by ROTJ? Maybe she could have said>Teddy bears George? come on nowBut noooooooo all your stupid little mind can think about it the heckin' EDIT!. Retard.
>>218821270Thank you for being the only one using his brain here.
>>218820857>Lucas succeeded with Star Wars because he surrounded himself with excellent collaboratorsLucas succeeded with Star Wars because he had a vision he saw through to completion six consecutive times, after he got the first movie's budget due to impressing Alan Ladd Jr. as a filmmaker. "Alan Ladd Jr., did not grasp the technical side of the project, but believed in Lucas' talent. Ladd invested in Lucas, not in the film">You can already see the faults in ROTJ after Kurtz leftYou mean the same Kurtz Lucas didn't want to bring back for Empire because he fucked up Hope's production, and had to be convinced to give him a second chance? The same Kurtz that ran Empire months behind schedule and overbudget to such a degree Lucas was almost penniless by the end? The same Kurtz that was utterly forgotten about by Kershner when asked about Empire's production, unlike George which he had a million stories about because he was every day on set as effectively second director? The same Kurtz that seethed so hard he spent then next two decades making shit up like how he knew the original plot of Episode VI, or the story of four trilogies, or so many other things debunked over the years?>he couldn't lean on his wifeMarcia left Hope a year into production to go edit for Scorsese with her biggest contribution being the trench run>as they were divorcingAfter she cheated on him, btw>you see how bad his ideas were with the Special EditionsOh...>and you see how utterly off the rails he went with the PrequelsOh no...>especially having Rick McCallumOh no no no...I'm sorry anon, I made the mistake of taking you seriously and not realizing you were getting your arguments from Plinkett's tried and false book of bullshit. Let me guess, he was surrounded by yes men and Jar Jar was racist and midichlorians ruin the Force and George should direct people to their seats?
>>218821088>>218821105>Thats feminist revisionismGood Lord. I'm not even a part of this argument and this shit has been fucking discussed in articles and books for YEARS. Not to mention there's literally a multi-hours long full interview with Marcia on the Icons Unearthed: Star Wars Blu Ray where she literally goes over the scenes she fought to keep in. Nobody contested this for decades and it wasn't anything new to hear her say the same fucking scenes.Fucking look up any interviews prior to their 1983 divorce. And compare those to her modern interview for Icons Unearthed. They still match up.
>>218821270>>218821318https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olqVGz6mOVEHow are you retards still parroting lies debunked half a decade ago?
>>218821318Thanks. I don't even know if they're legit retarded or just trolling. So much of this shit is common knowledge, especially to those of us who aren't zoomers and grew up with things like Starlog and the countless documentaries and Making Of books.
>>218821411She also says in Icons that she didn't "save" the movie. Fought to keep in? Keep on repeating those lies, they don't make you look stupid at all.
>>218821384>Lucas succeeded with Star Wars because he had a vision"Hey guys, I saw this cool japanese movie. But you know what would make it better? IF IT WAS IN SPACE."Genius.>with her biggest contribution being the trench runOh wow, her biggest contribution was something so little and meaningless, as making the finale not a snore fest?! You're right, she deserves no credit.>Oh...>Oh no...>Oh no no no...Are you refering to the pointless addition of "noooooooo" to Vader killing Palpatine? Yeah, that was stupid as fuck. I'm sure Marcia would told him to cut that shit out.
>>218821417Debunked by who? Star Wars Theory and Critical Drinker?
>>218821473I'd say you are the troll here, I guarantee you're one of those manchild retards that think George Lucas raped their childhood. Get over it already.
>>218821564>Star Wars Theory and Critical DrinkerNo. Some actual research sperg.
>>218821384Oh Lord. I was willing to debate with you and share agreements and disagreements, but then you had to fag out about fucking Plinkett, as if everybody LOVED the PT and nobody had ANY criticism about the PT until that faggot came along. Jesus Fucking Christ he lives in your fucking head.>you see how bad his ideas were with the Special Editions>Oh...I see, you're retarded. Imagine defending the SE changes to the plot & pacing
>>218814167> plagiarize dune, lord of the rings, and marvel comics > Dr doom = Darth Vader > steal ideas mix them up and regurgitate it to the audience George Lucas just stealing from other people’s works of art is not impressive. He’s the representation of ai generated art.
>>218821384>After she cheated on him, btwStill a massive point of "he said, she said" Glad you were there, though!>Icons Unearthed:>one interviewee said how much Marcia was following that other guy like a puppy dog>Marcia herself states she never cheatedIt was fun to see them include both points of view on the disc. But the other interviewee never walked in on them, now did he? He's just assuming.My opinion is we'll never actually know the truth, but you act like the Town Gossip and think you can state 100% equivocably about people you've never met.
>>218821270>She's LITERALLY the person that came up with the Trench Run being a "race against the clock" countdown to the Rebel's own destructionI'm sure you'll have a source for that, anon. I mean, after all, Marcia was not a sound editor; Sam Shaw was. And according to both Skywalking: The Life and Films of George Lucas and The Making of Star Wars by JW Rinzler, Marcia was off editing New York New York when the voicework was being done later on.>You cannot fathom that she was literally the only person that could get through to GeorgeI could, if you showed any proof. You haven't so far, just a whole lot of angry screeching and theory crafting about something you want to be true in your mind. Here, this is how you quote a statement:>"George also felt that there was no reason to see Luke until he became an active participant in the story. But it was not an easy decision to make to just delete those sequences; Marcia fought to keep them in, and the four scenes with Luke and his friends were tried in different places">"The second major sequence to be cut was the scene in which Jabba the Hutt spars with Han Solo. Again, though she knew the scene had problems and would be hard for ILM, Marcia lobbied to keep it. In this she was joined by Harrison Ford"
>>218821417>nooooooo>mah hecking favorite yootoober said otherwise>despite decades of proof otherwise>including Marcia's own wordsYeah, not interested in whatever clickbait you've swallowed and are trying to get to speak for you. faggot.
>>218819230I watched a youtube video about a guy who dunks the yellowed plastic from these things and restores them to how they looked newit was very satisfying
>>218819230While Israel is burning!?
>>218821523>She also says in Icons that she didn't "save" the movie.No she didn't, you fucking liar. She never addresses "saving", she just talks about her contributions. What a fucking faggot. >she specifically said she agrees with MEjust stop already.So much of what Marcia contributed really DID save the movie. It almost wound up being a humorless bore. It might have had a fun dogfight at the end, but the absolute tension at the end, with the countdown, as Luke has all of his support stripped away one by one, made that ending SO memorable people kept going back for more.I get it, you're really low IQ and you just need so desperately to argue against the facts. But there is so much evidence out there about how wrong you are. Yet you persist like a fag. Fuck off already.
>>218821531>Oh wow, her biggest contribution was something so little and meaningless, as making the finale not a snore fest?Contrarian argument is contrarian. Imagine being such a fucking faggot. Sad.
>>218821531>GeniusEnough to repeat the magic another five times, agreed.>her biggest contribution was something so little and meaninglessWell, let's see, Marcia created the trench run; George Lucas created Star Wars. So uh... yeah.>>218821619>but then you had to fag out about fucking PlinkettAnon, it's *literally* the Plinkett video that started the whole misinterpretation of the prequels' BTS videos showing George being surrounded by people that don't tell him no. It was literally Mike's point, which was then repeated ad nauseaum for the next 15 years, that TPM's BTS video showing George's rough cut of the movie "had everyone resigned to their fates" when what it showed was Ben Burtt directly addressing and re-editing the issues into the final film we got. I don't care about people disliking the prequels, I care about "Marcia saved Star Wars and Rick McCallum was a bad producer because he was a yes man unlike Gary Kurtz" being LITERALLY word for word Plinkett talking points. Take it or leave it.
>>218814167and Satan was there from the beginning
>>218821531>2005+21>he STILL doesn't get Vader's "noooo"Oh no no no no no no no...
>>218821738>nooooo>Marcia didn't do SOUND therefore she didn't edit the scene and could NEVER have asked the sound department to give her any elements!>Noooooooo>she was heckin in NEW YAWK and they didn't have telephones, she NEVER discussed the script with her own husband in the YEARS he was working on it before she stepped away for a few weeks and never mind that she actually worked as an editor and got credited as an editor and won an OSCAR for editing Star WarsYour "proof" is just your child brain coming to wrong conclusions. Like seriously, what the everliving fuck????? Are you also saying there were no such thing as telephones and she never ever spoke to her own husband while she was away in NEW YAWK??Good Lord, the mental gymnastics you're doing is so far off the fucking charts. You're either a very dedicated troll or just insanely retarded.
The Millennium Falcon that almost was.
>>218821738>Skywalking: The Life and Films of George Lucas and The Making of Star Wars by JW RinzlerKek. Cherry picking the books written AFTER their bitter divorce, and you're only citing the bad scenes as things she fought to keep in but failed. We all see what you're doing here.
>>218814167Star Wars is ai generated art.
>>218821270We actually don't know who introduced that ticking clock element on Yavin 4. We know it was introduced at a late stage, but books like Rinzler's Making of Star Wars don't say who was responsible for the idea, whether it was George or one of the editors or someone else. Anyone who draws conclusions from it about George Lucas is making conclusions out of thin air.It's really weird how much people have tried to minimise Lucas's contribution to Star Wars. You can't rewrite history to make it seem like he was some bumbling fool that lucked into the first movie.
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>>218822189ILM changes it to Leia's ship
>>218822165My proof are direct official quotes. Your proof is you crying like a baby. When you have a source on Marcia creating the countdown, you can give me a (You).>>218822230>Cherry picking the booksYou do realize the books contain quotes by other people, right? I don't know how you "cherrypick" a historical fact like Marcia Lucas being busy with Scorsese just after Thanksgiving. Now tell me anon, what's YOUR proof?
>>218822189>>218822371Damn, didn't know that. Cool shit.
>>218822020>Anon, it's *literally* the Plinkett video that started the whole misinterpretation of the prequels' BTS videos showing George being surrounded by people that don't tell him no.You're legit retarded. I mean that sincerely. You're literally arguing that NOBODY can come up with an idea beside Plinkett. NOBODY could have been disappointed by the PT (despite SO many magazines and even internet message board discussions on rec.arts.starwars and AOL groups). NOBODY could have seen those documentaries put out on things like the DVD release of Phantom Menace, where we see exactly the same shit Plinkett did, like McCallum saying "great idea George", George showing disappointment after his screening, and seeing the vacuum suck of all the joy leaving the audience with a before and after the screening. Holy. Fucking. Shit. I grew up with Star Wars. I was there opening day for TPM as an OT fan and I almost walked out during the Pod Race when that stupid faggot says "I don't care what galaxy you come from, that's gotta hurt" after being massively disappointed from the start of the film. NOBODY could be disappointed. NOBODY could have seen the Entertainment Tonight interviews, read the nonstop magazine articles, or discussed with fans anywhere UNTIL Plinkett came out with his stupid fucking video where he literally says things that were already a matter of record. Total retardation. Fucking KYS.
>>218822189>>218822371So pee pee was supposed to be poo poo? Wow!
>>218822446>You're arguing that nobody can come up with an idea beside PlinkettI'm arguing that it sure is curious that the specific order and wording of the complaints has remained consistenly the same since Mike's videos. Like nobody magically knew about McCallum from 1999 to 2009 and suddenly he just so happens to be the public face of a Yes Man. Did everyone come to the wrong conclusion at the same time? Or did everyone just accept the narrative presented to them in what was at the time the single most popular Prequel review on the entire internet?>the entire rest of your seething yappingConcession accepted.
Can zoomers name ANY of them?
>>218822283It was literally attributed to Marcia in the old "making of" materials, and Marcia herself literally says it was her in Icons Unearthed.The amount of autistic denial about Marcia is just fucking insane.
Why is the boomer losing his mind and shitting his pants with all the insults lol
>>218822539There should be a whole lot of verified information if that's the case.
>>218822547Probably mad the thread's not going his way.
>>218814167ILM model shop in 1976
>>218814167>>218814294Happy birthday Georgie Porgie. Hope your new museum rules.
>>218814294>wants to make movie >believes the technology's not there yet>fucking creates his own companies to develop said tech>people think he's crazy>few years later everyone adopts the tech he pioneered >fast-forward to the prequels >exact same thing happens again
>>218822532> zoomers can’t name some literal who goblins from some hippie gay faggotry Disney movie Good for them
>>218822388>Marcia wanted to keep the Luke's Friends and Jabba scenes in! Okay, how does that support your claim she didn't fight for the other scenes? This is just autistic whataboutism>a historical fact like Marcia Lucas being busy with Scorsese just after Thanksgiving. Nobody is arguing against her being in New York at that time. I specifically called out the problem with your retarded-as-fuck interpretation of this "historical fact". It's historical FACT that's she's literally in the credits of Star Wars as editor.
>>218822817>have issues in Tunisia on set in 1977>have issues in Tunisia on set in 1999It's like poetry, it rhymes.
>>218822525>Like nobody magically knew about McCallum from 1999 to 2009This. This right here. This is how we know how insanely fucking retarded you are.Yes, you absolute fucking LIAR, SW fans KNEW who Rick McCallum was PRIOR to 1999, he was constantly giving interviews, HE DID PANELS AT STAR WARS CELEBRATION CONVENTIONS YOU COMPLETE FUCKING FAGGOT!!!!!YOU. YOU are the fucking retard who didn't know who he was from 1999-2009. And YOU, YOU are the absolute cock stain who keeps arguing like a fucking child that just because YOU didn't know him that NOBODY knew him! Despite the absolute ARCHIVE of Star Wars Insider Magazine articles and mentions of him from fucking 1999-2009SHUT., THE . FUCK. UP. ALREADY!!!! Holy fucking retardation!!!
>>218822891>OkayOkay then.>how does that support your claim she didn't fight for the other scenesI have receipts for my claims, you have none for yours. Let's see if you can get this through your brain: Star Wars has, thanks to George's input in keeping the movies independent, the single most well documented production out of pretty much any series of movies out there. There's extensive behind the scenes, production notes, videos and interviews for everything. We know more about it than we know most other movies in history. Trying to spin truths into internet sparring wars is weird when we know the hows and whys of damn near every single decision, and we can attribute them down to the individual.>It's historical FACT that's she's in the credits of Star Wars as editorAnd it's a historical fact that we know which major scenes she did and didn't work on, and exactly what work she did on them.
>>218822637See, there he goes again.
>>218821617Oh, so Nerdrotic? Did his cellmate told him that?
>>218821738>I'm sure you'll have a source for that, anon. I mean, after all, Marcia was not a sound editor; Sam Shaw was.Good, because why would a sound editor edit movie scenes?
>>218821417This video really BTFOs any and all Star Wars discussion. My boy came in, dropped three 12/10 investigative masterpieces, then left the internet.
>>218823069Gosh, and yet you haven't provided a single solitary quote or source disputing that Marcia came up with the "race against the clock". Hmmmmmmm. Soooooo documented, as you say, and yet I've provided mine, yet the best you can counter argue is fucking Jabba related whataboutisms. Shalom, you pilpulling well poisoner.Provide citation of who came up with the "race against the clock" part for the Trench Run. I say it's Marcia, I've been saying it's Marcia, you literally cannot cite a single other person with your massive trove of intricate detail.Put up or shut up. I think you're just trolling like a faggot. I'm guessing you're Rian Johnson and you just got stood up at the gay bar by Daniel Craig and you're just taking out your frustrations at this point with your trolling faggotry.
>>218822020>George Lucas created Star Wars. So uh... yeah.And it would be trash if it wasn't for exiting ending, that he couldn't handle.
>>218822111>>he STILL doesn't get Vader's "noooo"I get it. And I got that scene before the noooo was added, because I'm not mentaly 5, like you, and need everything explained.
>Massive amount of Star Wars posting on the board>plenty of Rian Johnson posting on the boardThere's definitely a few of Rian and or his buddies trolling these threads. Imagine being so creatively impotent that you have to troll and shitpost because you can't creatively get it up.
>>218822189Damn, this would be fuckin tiny for four people. I love how what we got is actuall flying home. Still, I prefer Outrider.
>>218823407>you haven't provided a single quote disputingYou're the one that made the claim, you're the one that needs to back it up. It's a fact Marcia wasn't a sound editor. It's a fact the countdown was added very late into production. It's a fact that by "very late into production", she had finished her work on Star Wars and was with Scorsese. Prove the claim, or accept the last (You)
>>218822111>>218823507Is anyone actually advocating for the "noooooo"? We all got it and understood it in 1983. Adding it in 1997, well, your Sith Apprentice is standing right next to you, defying you, and suddenly the Emperor doesn't even spare him a glance. If Vader had said "noooo" AS he grabbed him it would be far less fake & gay.But, as usual, people use the "noooooo" scene just to troll and act like people liked it or use it as their cudgel against SW fans. Disingenuous arguers.
>>218823410>it would be trash if it wasn't for exiting endingHello saar
>>218823507>>218823682>say they get it>prove they don't get itWhat did anons mean by this.
Lucas never made a good movie on his own.
>>218821905that just makes playing with my star wars toys all the sweeter
>>218823781Alright, I will bite. Explain it.
>>218823659>You're the one that made the claim, you're the one that needs to back it up. Yes, Rian, I have several times now. Marcia literally says it herself in the Icons Unearthed documentary. You have yet to say who else came up with the idea. I noticed. Still waiting, faggot!>It's a fact Marcia wasn't a sound editor.Correct! Nobody here ever said she was, you pilpulling troll.Marcia also didn't play the role of Luke, and she didn't do the voice over where the Rebels say "one minute and counting" and shit. I'm so done with your ultra-retarded trolling. Fuck off Rian.
>>218817711star wars will die with you generation and thats a good thing.
>>218823781>trolls>fails to back up bullshit claimFeel free to dispute how inserting Vader saying no. nooooooooooooo 14 years after the fact while the Emperor doesn't even so much as glance at him means it somehow works
>>218821054yeah im sure he made that, and not the engineers. fucking retard
>>218823837>>218823913Lucas wrote every movie as part of a wholistic 6 part Saga that share constantly repeating moments be them visual or spoken, movie to movie, trilogy to trilogy, with callbacks back and forth not only between trilogies but also to cinema as a whole, heavily inspired by his film student days from the 60s. In the BTS for the movies he calls it a language of its own, mostly visual in nature and unique to films as a medium.The reason Vader screams "No!" is obvious and twofold: on one hand, it's to complete the pattern of how every single other movie has a character screaming 'no' at some point (Obi-Wan after Qui-Gon's death, in Yoda's vision after Anakin slaughters the Tusken Raiders, Vader when he's told he killed Padmé, Luke reacting to Ben's death, Luke reacting to Vader being his dad); Jedi was the odd exception and with the change it was made to fit as part of the Saga better.On the other hand, it is to parallel specifically the Ep. III shout: both times Vader yells 'no' are yet another example of Lucas making two moments similar to call attention to how they're connected. The first time Vader's yell is helpless as he hears his wife is dead, and it's too late to save her; the second time he sees his son's about to die but now he's not helpless and decides that he's gonna finally do the right thing and prevent somebody's death. Vader changing like this and learning to be selfless is what ultimately saves and redeems him, it's important to the whole arc of the whole Saga to go from one 'no' to the other and show how he's changed between these two moments.The entire Saga is full of moments like these. People notice the obvious ones like both father and son losing a hand in their second movie or the mentor figure dying in their first one but it runs much deeper. There's layers within layers, both visual and dialogue-wise. Some might say it's like poetry, it rhymes.
Day 1.
>>218821963>But there is so much evidence out therethe only evidence youve shown is one dumb bitch runing her mouth and noone contradicting her because who gives a shit what bitches have to say. she saved the movie by sucking everyone's dicks and getting a credit in exchange, just like every women in hollywood. get real, faggot.
>>218824057OMG, are you repeating after that retarded ring theory?And can we please stop pretending, like he had a 6 movie plan from the start? Star Wars "saga" is some of the biggest patchwork franchise out there.
>>218824020>Despite YEARS of George publicly speaking about it>I'm going to substitute my own reality simply because it strengthens my insult towards George
>>218821797>including Marcia's own wordsof course she would say she saved the movie. who gives a shit what she says? thats not proof, retard
>>218821564>>218823330get a load of this butt blasted libtard shill kek. those youtubers live rent free in your head, faggot. nobody else mentioned them
>>218824184reminder she divorced him
>>218824142>are you repeating after that retarded ring theoryNo, there are moments in "Film 1" that allude to "Film 5". I don't remember the specifics of that theory, only ever read about it/watched the video once, but I remember disagreeing with the idea it was a hard rule. Basically I think he kinda started getting there was something there but ended with the wrong conclusion.>can we please stop pretending, like he had a 6 movie plan from the start"On December 29, 1975, in conversation with Alan Dean Foster per the novelization of Star Wars, Lucas mentioned the prequel trilogy along with what would become Episodes V and VI: “I want to have Luke kiss the Princess in the second book. In the third book, I want the story just about the soap opera of the Skywalker family, which ends with the destruction of the Empire. Then someday I want to do the back story of Kenobi as a young man – a story of the Jedi and how the Emperor eventually takes over and turns the whole thing from a Republic into an Empire, and tricks all the Jedi and kills them. The whole battle where Luke’s father gets killed. That would be impossible to do, but it’s great to dream about"
>>218824057>Lucas wrote every movie as part of a wholistic 6 part SagaExcept, he hadn't written the PT at that point, maybe he'd begun TPM, but at most he only had vague outlines for 2 & 3. So, why wasn't it there in 1983 if this was a holistic 6 part saga?And again, how well can you shout NO. NOOOOOOOOOOOO. standing right next to someone who doesn't even turn to look at you? And as if the Emperor couldn't SENSE in the Force what was happening? It telegraphs it to baby audience members like you. Although, kudos for taking the time to describe your thoughts. I'm glad it works for you. It must be nice to be simple minded.
>>218824390that "behind the scenes" tell-all expose from the 90s was so full of shit, and is responsible for so many malicious myths about star wars' production that persist to this day
>>218824134>She heckin worked with SCORSESE!!!!!!>uh, she's just some dumb bitchRian, how often did Kathleen don the strap on and peg you? Imagine falling this low that this is what you resort to. kek.
>>218824184>she would say she saved the movie.Except, she didn't say that. Keep trying, troll!
>>218824513>that "behind the scenes" tell-all expose from the 90sHuh?? What the fuck are you on about, retard? Anon was citing Lucas' discussion with the author of the first film's novelization back in 1975, and that's not the 90's you dumb faggot.Anybody who actually has any clue about Star Wars knows it was never cohesive and changed so fucking much. Vader wasn't originally Luke's father (as evidenced by the 1975 interview) and even in Icons Unearthed Marcia Lucas said the idea to make Vader Luke's father came after the first film released AND it was suggested to George by George's friends the Hyucks, but she couldn't remember if it was the husband or the wife.
>>218824416>oh yeah well why hadn't he written all six scripts by '75Anon pls, I thought we were having a serious discussion here. It's well known that Star Wars came about because Lucas had an idea that was too big for the time, budget and technology he had so he cut said idea in half and decided to create the second half because it was comparatively more ""low fantasy"". Then said story was still too big and expensive so he cut it in half. Then that story he cut in half again and that's how we got A New Hope. If you've ever been a creative you'll know you can have a million ideas in your head and they will all change in big and small ways until five seconds before you put them to screen. That's just part of the process. So yes, he wanted Star Wars to be a six part Saga with an optional Sequel trilogy (which is why the notion of a ST was always much more vague than the idea of the prequels showing Obi-Wan and Vader's origins, and the fall of the Republic and rise of Palpatine). Doesn't magically mean he knew in 1983 he had to have Vader say "no" because he'd then have Vader say "no" in the third prequel in 2005. Tolkien edited The Hobbit's Gollum after writing LOTR so the two characters' interpretations made more sense. This is the same, on a much bigger scale over 30 years.>how can you shout NOOOOOOOOOOOO standing right next to someone who doesn't even turnThe first "no" is in a normal voice, Palpy is having a blast with the lightning enveloping the whole room. When the yell comes, Vader's already grabbed him and is flinging him on the air.>And as if the Emperor couldn't SENSE in the Force what was happening?If the Emperor could sense intentions, he'd sense Vader regardless of his voicing of the situation.>It must be nice to be simple mindedYou might know, fren.
>>218824758no, I'm agreeing with you, I'm saying that that "Making of Star Wars" book that denied that was fake and gay
>>218814167>Damnation Alley (1977) that opened the same weekend as Star WarsAnd the year before, Logan's Run won an Oscar for special effects.
>>218824826>I'm saying that that "Making of Star Wars" book that denied thatThe one from the 2010's that you just claimed was from the 90s? By Rinzler?
>>218824863I see 8 special effects right there.
>>218824804>super iconic Luke jacket>wears it for 30 seconds in the entire trilogy
>>218814294s-shut up george is a man of limited intelligence. also I believe in ghosts
>>218820750Yeah but as a kid back then, we all wanted a Landmaster combat camper.
>>218824798I think people seriously, SERIOUSLY underplay how much time 30 years is. For Star Wars to have remained so artistically consistent over three decades with the same mind behind everything was pretty much never seen before (or again) on this scale.
>>218824936I could've saved her
>>218825049The Stormtroopers were diverse?! Uh oh, they're not gonna like hearing about this!
>>218825049DAMN, the Stormtroopers look like THIS?!
George Lucas cut the scene with Luke's friends, including Koo Stark (known for getting naked).
>>218824996>pretty much never seen before (or again)We had it SO good Gen X brothers
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>>218825049>>218825166>Ehrmaheckin GERD!>Dey filmed in Tunisia and hired....Locals?!?!?Small minds are so easily broken
>>218825362>>218825437>be farmer in a shitty Outer Rim desert planet>nothing to do, nowhere to go>bored out of your mind>this qt is your childhood friend you spend time with every day in Tosche StationBros...
The Rinzler books are amazing if you like the stuff in this thread
>>218825719The good ones are always taken too fucking soon. Cancer sucks.
>>218825362>>218825437>>218825662Talking about Koo, I recently saw a German convention's footage of a reunion of Koo, Garrick and Anthony. My mind was actually blown. They said they'd never signed away likeness rights for merch and were suing. There was a Camie & Fixer 2 pack years ago, okay, mistake made, but there had been several Biggs figures. I'm guess this is why they never did Biggs in the 6inch recent scale? Who knew? We always talked about the Tonnika sisters but nobody knew the others hadn't given their rights too. And they also mentioned the same for Angus McInnes who wanted to add his name to the lawsuit before he died.
Mark Hamill is a bitch
>>218825719>>218825809Fucking sucks they canceled his ST books before he died, but then TFA was such a shitshow especially after they fired Michael Arndt. Lucasfilm didn't want the book to get out that they had sidelined Luke Skywalker simply because JJ Abrams had a sweet merchandising deal on his own OC characters where he got more royalties for Rey & co instead of Han & co.
>>218825904Agreed. Someone should post that pic of him stealing cigarettes from that outdoor ashtray like a hobo
>>218814294>creates James Cameron
>>218825904Gotta learn to separate character from actor. No different than art and artist.
>>218820727American Graffiti won numerous awards and was the most profitable movie ever made for a long time. He also created other blockbuster film series other than Star Wars, like Indiana Jones.
>>218825437>>218825662So THAT was the other Last Hope that Yoda was talking about! Mystery solved!
>>218825862>the Tonnika sistersRandom background extras with no lines don't get merchandising rights.
>>218826217>Random background extras with no lines don't get merchandising rights.Imagine not grasping what I was saying. Not only that....but you're WRONG!!!!! They eventually DID after signing contracts YEARS later. Damn son.
>>218826275no
>>218826292What location did they go to film Yavin?
>>218827034My backyard.
>>218827023That's one deep sarlaac pit
>>218827513Don't they have droids to do that task?
>>218814294>everything crashed and burned citation needed
>>218827034
>>218816110You'd racemix too if your White wife waited for you to get rich and then immediately divorced you and took almost everything
>>218827034Guatemala
Ah, 50 years of no underwear (female) in space!
>>218827034Dachau. The hot climate was incinerating.
>>218824872Rinzler was 2007, and he was bad, but there was an earlier one from the 90s that was even worse and is responsible for many terrible myths such as >the battle of endor was originally going to be wookiees but they ran out of money!or>Lucas changed Vader's identity to Anakin at the last minute!
>>218828127>there was an earlier one from the 90sSo mythical you can't even name it! Was it even endorsed by LFL?
It's sad, that men with overblown ego try to erase Marcia unquestionable contribution to the popularity of this franchise. Some people are just so sad.
>But we can't turn back, fear is their greatest defense, I doubt if the actual security there is any greater than it was on Aquilae or Sullust and what there is is most likely directed towards a large-scale assault!
>>218820984Editin process save Star Wars? Wack.
>>218828378Ah, the creative genius of Lucas writing, that everyone defend so hard in this thread. Imagine if he got to write and direct sequel trilogy.
>>218828384It wouldn't be the first time, when good editing saved a shitty movie. Marcia deserves a statue.
>>218828442A random doesn't deserve anything special from other editors, not that you would know.
>>218828378>>218828411You can type this shit, George, but you can't say it>t. NOBODY that worked on the PT
>>218828555>A randomWhat a waste of digits on such pitiful trolling. Attempt harder.
What exactly is it about Star Wars that always attracts obstinate, bickering assholes?
>>218815427>>218815664
Can't we just appreciate that the movie's production was truly something else and that modern movies are really missing that kind of magic?
>>218828702>calls people assholesYou tell us, why are you here
>>218828775To talk and discuss Star Wars, not get caught up in flamewars over events I wasn't involved in, people I never met, and decisions they made I had no contribution to.
>>218828442Cameraman saved Star Wars, he was the only guy actually filming it, imagine if he hadn't been there to shoot the movie, none of it would have been recordedIt was serendipity that it all worked out, that he had a camera to operate and that he was there on all the correct days at the correct time
>>218819861More like Winnie the Jew
>>218823223>Ok I want you to shoot first but somehow miss from a metre away
>>218829195Bunch of deathstick-heads
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>>218825049looks like a prog rock group
My nigger Treadwell
hell yeah i love star trek
>>218817711I'm not zoomer, I grown up watching the prequels, Genndi's cartoon and then the trilogy. I love all of it but the trilogy is overrated, particulary the first movie which is mid as fucks. I even watched the original version without Lucas's retarded CGI additions and it was the same: a mid cheesy movie.
how did Lucas go into space to film those battles as they happened?
>>218815970Are you part of it?
>>218825437Ah yes, Koo Stark
>>218814167>gets toy rights back from Kenner>makes 3 new movies ONLY to sell new action figures Based
>>218824036AI slop
I wonder how it was to work with Alec on this movie. If he was a grump every day, embarrassed he had fallen so low to work on a childish space cartoon movie with dog men characters and laser swords
>>218816127>Tfw we haven't had any good SW games in 15 yearsFucking Disney NIGGERS
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>>218829926No, its a legit photo, its just been fucked with and over edited.
>>218814167Good thread, OP
>>218830109That poor midget must have been cramped in there
>>218829161Carrie looks so smol here. Love her
>>218830401They would break for lunch and completely forget he was inside that thing. He had to manually turn the dome for the head by hand and if he went to far in either direction, the cables and cords inside for the electronics would wrap around his neck and strangle him.
>>218830458Carrie was a cutie.
>>218824057This is just stupid, even if this were true and I have my doubts -it's irrelevant a scene referencing another scene doesn't make it good. Vader shouting "NOOOO" in ROTS (and even worse dubbed in in ROTJ) sounds really bad and goofy and takes you out the scene. Even if there were a leitfmotif of a character screaming "No" then why, why is it there? Maybe, maybe it would work if it was Luke in the OT screamng No in each film then Anakin in the prequel but that isn't this case. You posted this nonsense before-don't bother posting it again
>>218825662I could have sworn she called Luke Normie (but it was actually wormy)
>>218830458
>>218821905>Israel is burningWell, maybe in your mind, but that all.
>>218829934>orange jailbait pussy.txt
>>218820197He did a hell of a job voicing the Joker in the Arkham games, too
>>218815300i signed in on my email just to say this post made me lol
>>218829934>entertaining children? Never, I only engage in serious make-believe for the adulation of other serious make-believers.
>>218814167Good thread. Should do Empire Strikes Back next
>>218830701It happened because democrats turned the rebels into real life "'"""oppressed""" minorities getting woke when they are originally 70's white people with mustaches, composed largely of mens and womens being specials in it.Diversity is pointless in star wars with the many androids and alien races of the lore.
>>218822532Harrison FordRichard PryorNo idea on the big guy.Carrie FisherNo idea on the little guy.Mark Hamhill
>it's yet another secret aprentinceI think they overdid this storyline, at this point it feels like the "rule of two " is actually the "suggestion of two"
>NO Special Effects houses in existence that he could just hire, he had to assemble his own from scratch.Oh no, how did he manage WITH ALL THAT MONEY
>>218830190But she was in new YAWK with Scorcese!!!!
>>218830190The REAL reason for the divorce>Marcia - I got an Oscar for YOUR film George!>George - I got a rock
>>218830836Damn... lost his legs to diabetes...
>>218830190The guy from Conan?
>>218831486>he doesn't know that Peter Mayhew was the name of who played the mighty wookiee, Chewbacca.NGMI
>>218832113They definitely banged
>>218832546Mark was married at the time and according to him, they never did. That didn't stop Harrison who was married at the time to from hitting it, and it didn't stop Carrie from cockteasing Mark literally fro the rest of her life.
>>218832546
>>218832726>I did not hit that did nawt>Oh hai Mark!
