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So let me get this straight, the main “theme” this season is supposed to be that sparing your enemies comes back to bite you. But Mark literally said not killing Angstrom was a mistake… even though he genuinely believed he did kill him at the time? (we all did)

That’s kind of the problem with the show right now: there are basically no real stakes. For something that’s marketed as an “adult” animated series, nobody actually stays dead.

“Oh this villain is definitely dead, brains everywhere.”

“Never mind he survived.”

It’s getting old fast.

On top of that, a lot of the dialogue, especially with Debbie, feels forced and cringey. And Atom Eve comes off less like a well-written character and more like a cliché version of what a teenager thinks a “strong independent woman” should be.

Honestly, I’m this close to dropping the show. At this point, I’m only sticking around for Cecil and Donald
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>>>/co/
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>>218885141
>capeslop
>cartoon slop
fuck right off.
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>>218885177
It's a tv show first and foremost.
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>>218885177
>>218885198
Amazon Prime show is part of /tv/ shut the fuck up we always discussed it here since its airing. Just because only Season 1 was good doesn't mean it doesn't belong on this board anymore. Pigs.
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>>218885198
see:
>>218885205
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Cecil is a bad guy though... He keeps fucking up and deserves his head ripped off. Pretty much the reason Mark permanently leaves earth is that retards lies and deception.
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>>218885141
you forget the massive killings at planetary level by mark's variants from other universes?
and a lot of dudes like rex died too.
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>>218885235
> Mark permanently leaves earth
Huh? Im not a comic reading faggot stop spoiling shit first of all.
Second of all, Cecil's main goal is it to defend Earth and Mark doesn't matter at all if it means the world being safe.
Being manipulative deceiver for good reasons doesn't make you a bad person.
Even if it does, I still like the character.
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I was gonna reply to OP but you all are acting like babies. Yes, I agree that defeating Conquest should have been the death of that character (not only is he alive and well, but immediately escapes).

As far as "not killing Langstrom", he could be referring to their last fight where he let Langstrom get away (missing an arm) because he took too long to decide to finally kill him for good.
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>>218885237
>bunch of NPC's dead wow
>rex dead but his clone is alive
I don't give a shit. Kill the characters off or fuck off. I don't want sequids, aliens from season 1 being threat every season. It's boring and shitty writing there's so many cool shit you can come up with than this regurgitated bullshit.
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>>218885237
Those aren't main characters like OP is talking about. The show has been doing this "character dies but actually they're alive" shtick for multiple seasons now and there is only one character that has actually died.
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>>218885141
you are willingly watching the ugliest worst written garbage in comics and then complain that it is garbage... maybe the problem is you..
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>>218885311
No I mean brains splattered everywhere but muh multiverse shit happens it is so tiresome there are no STAKES in the show. It's dogshit.
Also why the fuck 10 Viltrumites not flying straight to earth to defeat every threat there is, steal bunch of people for breeding? What the fuck are they waiting for? Why send 1 Conquest, before that one chick for "warning".
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>>218885377
I refuse to believe that Invincible is the worst written comics.
I like Kirkman's Walking Dead and it can't be that bad.
Animation I don't really care about, I care about dialogues, story, writing. First season was amzing, and parts of last season were good too.
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Ahem everyone I the nerd universe has known Robert Kirkman can't write very well since the original Walking Dead.
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>>218885477
I think you are objectively wrong so
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>>218885337
>>218885347
Its basic storytelling that the main characters dont die but they suffer a lot.
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This season is so fucking bad so far holy shit
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I kinda forgot last seasons
What did Cecil do to Mark that every sup is pissed at him and show some moral high ground when they speak to him
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>>218885935
He rigged device in Mark's head to control him if he went out of line and didn't follow Cecil's orders (which was a right thing to do btw)
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>>218885716
I dont call for main characters deaths I call for villain of the season death...
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>>218885948
Mark was more pissed about Cecil hiring the scientist that turned his gay friend's fuck buddy into a zom-bot. And then created a ton more zom-bots.

There needs to be precautions set in place in case Mark goes rogue. Even Robot agreed, despite leaving the team to get his willy wet.
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>>218885741
I liked seeing those little green dudes take another swipe at Earth. Hope that goes on for a dozen more seasons.

I didn't like how the alien brains got handled so easily. Although the one hiding in "Rex's" belly probably means they ain't done yet.
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>>218885141
there are basically no real stakes. For something that’s marketed as an “adult” animated series, nobody actually stays dead.

Stand by.
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>>218886076
So nothing gets resolved ever. Great show btw. We literally can't move forward I guess.
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>>218886079
>stands by 4 season in for over 5 years
Nah it's too late fuck this bullcrap.
thanks for not spoiling tho.
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>>218886103
Are you begging for spoilers or something?
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>>218886121
I agree. Thanks for not spoiling.
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>>218886132
I agree. He's rocking the boat. But why?
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>>218886121
Then don’t watch it. What’s even the point of this thread if you’re just pouting about something that I assure you is resolved?
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>>218886132
No I'm not. I'm talking about what he had so far in 4 seasons. IT would be nice if they actually change stuff I complain about in this thread but it's been too long for it to be the same over and over. It is boring and low quality writing for me. Just a bait-coded cartoon
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>>218886177
Point of this thread is to question the quality of the show. It does seem high quality for regular viewers, all my friends like it but it seems like people dont pay attention to stuff that I just mentioned.
So I just let it out here.
What's your problem? The fact that they will start killing off characters soon doesn't change the fact that season 2 through 4 so far is just fillers. Or simply no resolution to plotlines like sequids, those green alienbros who age fast, armstrong or whatever that niggers name is, conquest, It all is too annoying.
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Shit I Like:
>Robot
>the Atom Eve prequel
>they got rid of the black bitch
>Cecil
and not until recently
>Oliver
He's turning out to be a good egg despite his earlier bloodlust
I also like how Langstrom was like
>"I've been to infinite universes and yet, this is the only one that has... you."
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Shit I don't like:
>OG Rex who I hope stays dead
>Allan
>some old fag as team leader of Guardians
>the street villain mafia
OP or whoever has a point, even the "Legion of Doom" went back to the Season 1 status quo.
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>>218886185
I’m not even completely understanding your beef here. You’re angry that Angstrom didn’t stay dead? Are you new to superhero fiction? You’re mad that there aren’t Game of Thrones “shocking” deaths constantly?

I’m here to tell you that your complaint that there are no stakes is completely farcical. You understand there has to be a buildup for those moments to have any meaning, right? We’re in the stage right now where Mark is dealing with the fallout of the Invincible War (which he indirectly caused by “creating” Angstrom to start with) and Conquest showing up back-to-back, and how helpless he was against it, and how his helplessness almost cost him Eve and his family.

I haven’t watched this season yet, but based on what you’re saying, there is a moment coming up where Mark straight up kills someone in order to solve a very high-stakes problem, and prevent another Angstrom from happening.
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>>218886507
>we had to wait for 4 seasons for characters to die to end the threat
kino writing let me tell ya.
Oh wait the another multiverse angstorm will just appear again even though mark obviously will kill the dude on screen. Voila!
>Sequids make a comeback and the kill them all
>Not really lol
>Those aliens from S1 come back and heroes deal with them all
>Not really lol
>Oh Mark finally killed a threat "concquest" he is growing so cool
>Not really lol
It's all repetitive garbage. I don't expect "game of thrones" shock but do you remember Season 1 or not?
Also do you remember dupli-kate "death"? That glasses bitch "death"? This show is just baiting each time for no reason.
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>>218886235
It’s not just “fillers” though. I don’t know if you were expecting “Dragon Ball Z: Edgy Edition” or what, but that’s not what it is.

>What's your problem?
Nigga, I’m not the one with the problem. You started this thread complaining, I responded that not only is your complaint inaccurate, they are building to several payoffs, and either to stand by or move on, and your retort is that you’d prefer to continue bitching because you want dessert now now now.
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>>218886813
Sorry for wanting a payoff after 4 season of waiting. My bad.
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>>218886618
In the comics the glasses bitch is a guy and he dies when he gets eaten. Weird
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Holy did season 4 already come out? Literally zero hype
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>>218886618
Mark kills the Sequid host, permanently ending the threat.
Mark kills Conquest in their rematch.
Thragg kills Oliver and Nolan.
Robot does an Order 66 and kills almost everyone, starting with Angstrom, including Cecil, and the rest kind of give up because while his techniques were brutal, the world was better off for it.

I’m tired of tapdancing around the spoilers. Fuck you bitching showfags.
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>>218886927
didnt read after first sentence kek. Nice outburst nigga go defend some lame ass low quality show.
>Mark defeats everyone
wow so unpredictable...
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>>218886916
I know right? Probably because second season was all filler and so was majority of season 3.
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>>218886927
Oh, and Thragg kills Battle Beast, and wears his pelt as a cloak.
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>>218887035
>Battle beast
we should somehow care about a random side animal character?
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>>218885141
there are no themes in this capeslop. never really has been. the only reason to read it back in the day was the big titty artwork and hyper violence compared to what else was running around.
even then the art was hit or miss.
and then the comic dragged on and on and became here is a cute character oh no lawl we them off and lmao time skip again and mark can't be happy
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Now I gotta bail on this thread because /co/ crybabies are attacking with spoilers.

>thread hidden and shame on YOU
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>>218887077
He’s a central figure in the Viltrumite War, but being a speedwatching showfag, you wouldn’t know that.
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>>218887107
Eat a dick, and don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.
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>>218887149
kys
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>>218887107
the show has drifted siginicantly away from the original comic to the point i don't think anything is getting as spoiled as you are crying about.
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>>218885141
>But Mark literally said not killing Angstrom was a mistake… even though he genuinely believed he did kill him at the time
How is this a contradiction to your prior statement? Mark found out Angstrom wasn't actually dead, leading to the great Invincibles invasion, and that permanently changed his new outlook on life going forward: Kill all your enemies.
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>>218887439
him not being dead there and then is the biggest bullshit there is. Mark THOUGHT he killed the dude, his intention was to KILL. Nothing changed at all, he wants to kill him again. we are going in circles.
Same goes to conquest
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>>218885177
Implying /co/ is anything other than a softcore gooner haven these days.
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>>218887322
Booknerds said the same shit about Game of Thrones
>"It should have been obvious anyway"
is not a good excuse to ruin a thread on /tv/
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>>218885292
Lol
>mark kills conquest in a rematch, nearly dying himself in the process.
>planet viltrum itself is destroyed during the big viltrum war battle.
>Thragg and most of the viltrumites escape and establish themselves on earth creating a truce that allows them to live and breed on the planet
>mark is raped by Anissa
>him and Eve leave the planet to live on Telescria
>Rexbot and Monster girl come back from Flaxan Dimension and Robot takes over the entire planet
>Turns out that Nolan and Mark are the true blood of Argall.
>take over control from Thragg
>Thragg escapes and builds up his own Thraxan offspring army
>big epic battle in which Thragg and Mark fight each other in the sun.
>Thragg Dies, Mark lives and is now emperor of Viltrum.

There now your whiny ass has no further reason to watch anymore.
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They completely changed Mark's talk with Eve's dad after dinner.
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>>218887768
I'm not reading all that. Good effort I guess lol
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>>218885141
>So let me get this straight, the main “theme” this season is supposed to be that sparing your enemies comes back to bite you.
IMO not exactly. This was the last season main theme. Now Mark is trying to adjust to his new moral code where killing IS allowed.
>even though he genuinely believed he did kill him at the time?
He beaten him to pulp but never made a killing blow.
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>>218887804
Good thing.
This shit is cringe.
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>>218885141
Actually the theme is that you should forgive the villains because anyone can be rehabilitated or something like that.
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>>218887804
Now we're getting comic book panels???

Jesus. Why can't /co/fags discuss the comics on their own fucking board? Instead you invade like those time displaced green martians. Trying to ruin /tv/'s discussion of the tv show?

Why won't you guys stop invading our board/planet?
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>>218885141
I watched s1, was disappointed but willing to keep giving it a shot, made it halfway through s2e1 before dropping it and never looking back. Writing was on the wall (or rather in the toilet).
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>>218888151
It's valid to bring up the comicbooks these comicbook adaptations are based on, retard.
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>>218888182
And yet you think "Peacemaker" is kino

Fuck off slut
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>>218888216
Never seen it, whore
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>>218885141
So why exactly Amazon cartoon animation looks worse than indie video "game"?
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>>218888212
Why won't /co/ discuss the comic books then? Why do they pretend the show doesn't exist? It's a cartoon, right?

Not even a single live watch Gamethread.

Just admit it. /tv/ discussion is better than /co/ in every single way. We're funnier, more thoughtful, and we have sex. /co/ is for nerds and you are so desperate to be COOL.

You can stay, but no more spoilers, please. I know how u nerds seethe.
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>>218888259
even worse they toned down the massive tits and hard abs the female characters had in the comics.
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>>218885141
I don't think that's the case.
It's more that they want to say Mark is just stuck between a rock and a hard place. A shit decision and another shit decision and no matter what he does it goes wrong and just has to hope it eventually turns okay. It's not supposed to say which method of dealing with your enemies is better cause either way will turn out bad for Mark. Basically it's just misery porn starring him.
Now don't me wrong I'm not defending it, just saying the "message" is different. Otherwise yes everything is pretty ass. Dialogue is shit, characters are retarded and anybody that was even a little likeable turned to shit while anyone that was already shit is even worse. Despite all the threats from the way it's all executed and gore being so common it still feels like there's no stakes.
Many repetitive scenes that would be shit even once, and the many times Mark is still getting his ass kicked by faggots who aren't even properly propped up as strong thus making Mark look even more pathetic get more and more annoying.
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>>218885141
Yeah… it’s like it’s capeslop or something
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>>218885141
this looks so bad its impossible to take seriously.
Just watched him fighting the dinosaur lol this show is a joke.
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>>218888495
oh you have no idea how stupid the dinosaur stuff gets.
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>>218888914
Doesn't he fight for environmental shit and blow up vegas or something?
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>>218885218
>Season 1 was good
It wasn't
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>>218885141
The theme of the comic is
>damn, that's crazy, lol.
The theme of the show is
>liberalism
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>>218889074
yeah, it was actually very homosexual.
then he flooded the planet it a big giant image comics cross over, i'm sure they won't do that
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>>218885381
>Also why the fuck 10 Viltrumites not flying straight to earth to defeat every threat there is, steal bunch of people for breeding? What the fuck are they waiting for? Why send 1 Conquest, before that one chick for "warning".

Viltrum empire is fighting non-stop against a galactic alliance of hundreds more advanced planets than Earth. They are just not beginning to realise there is something special on Earth, thanks to Conquest returning.
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>>218885141
The point is that Mark is becoming more Viltrimite rather than more human. We see that in Nolans flashback that the smallest mercies are completely disregarded in the Viltrum Empire and that they choose to kill as a solution. Mark has been battling this question since his start as a hero when his dad literally shows him you can just kill thousands of people. Mark gets further pushed by this when his alt selves literally destroy Earth and enact a fucking extermination campaign on the heroes of the world. Mark is LEARNING his way, so you will see him go thru the discovery, process and then learning from his experience. That doesn't mean Mark doesn't believe in death or that death is the right answer. It means that Mark as an adult is learning that every choice has a consequence and he must choose the make the choice he can live with the consequences of. Naturally as a child he prioritizes the preservation of his original most important things: family and friends. But as he gets more experienced with the world this becomes harder as it means he will literally sacrifice thousands to save them.
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>>218885141
It's really boring shit. The gimmick is just that it looks like a badly drawn kids cartoon but there is swearing and gore. That's it. There's nothing to it.



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