The only thing he did wrong was associate with an egomaniac and his pet junkie
How the real Breaking Bad would have gone>patron, some gringo is selling meth out of his trailer in our turf>kill him>but they say his meth is "specially pure">that isn't a real thing, also feed his ballsack to a dog in front of him and tape it to make sure no one else tries it either>si senor
>>218891878>But sir his meth is 99% pure....>So??
Gale was just as unstable as Walt did you not see that sushi scene?
How did they even know the purity of walts meth, were they really testing random meth samples in their spare time
>>218891902>that means you can frickin step on it more and get a little bit more money out of shit you don’t care about the purity of at allRedditors actually bought this bullshit and don’t realize the sellers sling 30% pure shit all the time because their customers are homeless losers who can’t fight back
>>218891878Cartel actually is always looking into getting new highs to the customers.There was that mexican kid who was good at chemistry who was kidnapped from the city and sold into wage slavery unironically.The largest problem is that this kind of shit would have never ever made it up that high the ladder.low level gangs would of greased you long before anyone knew you well enough to know what the fuck you're selling.
Pretty sure the retirement home was made to be his downfall. He went there with minimal security out of hatred, just to gloat. A lot of people could've taken him out there. They made a point of it in the show that he was untouchable except for that specific moment
>>218891878Exactly. It's how Stringer explains it in The Wire. A purer product doesn't mean shit because a fucking meth addict is gonna chase the high no matter what. If anything it's actually better to have a weaker product because addicts will buy even more lol.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4HD1HgfKB4
>>218891878Probably wouldn't even have reached that point. Walt and Jessie likely would have been killed by a random tweeker robbing them
>>218892118>low level gangs would of greased you long before anyone knew you well enough to know what the fuck you're sellingIsn't that what nearly happened in episode one?
>>218892253They were literally about to get killed by their first sale attempt krazy 8
>>218892133>a purer product that can be diluted to produce twice the amount with the same ingredients and time means nothing
>>218892092>>218892133higher purity means more product and then you can do whatever you want with it, scaled up to Gustavo's empire the profits would be massive
>>218892092>>218892612Why not just make the product less pure and sell it to methheads for more money?
>>218891878Yeah this was always the dumbest part of breaking bad. Meth isn't a designer drug that attracts a discerning customer base, it's a dirty cheap high for dumbfuck dirt poor retards. No one on either side of the sale cares about its purity, only that it works.
>>218892682>Why not just make the product less pure and sell it to methheads for more money?this is literally how fast food capitalism works btw
Would the higher ups of the Cartel even give a shit about meth to begin with? It always seemed like an inherently small scale thing to me
>>218891845That, and sell copious quantities of a drug that;s highly addictive and destroys lives.
>>218892712Jesse even says this in the first seasom that junkies don't give a shit. The only explanation given is that Gus is a perfectionist control freak or something, which BCS hammers home further when he makes an employee work overtime scrubbing his kitchen spotless
>>218892797They want control of all drug distribution, yes. Anything illicit. Meth makes good revenue. It's weed that they would be divesting from now that it's made and sold commercially.
>>218892797google gave me this
Almost all of the conflict in season 3 stems from Walt being retarded and insisting that Jesse be included instead of just letting someone kill him.
>>218892612They didn't cut the meth in the show, they sold it still blue. Got to a point where copycats were dying their meth blue to fake it
>>218892957This is the most retarded part of the show to me and why it can never be more than a cartoon.Meth is a drug that keeps people from going into withdrawals. There isn't super awesome boutique meth for discerning clientele who want to pay more. Coke has a luxury market like that, and I guess weed does or did. But only a small fraction of meth users are doing it because the drug experience is cool and fun. The rest are just trying to stave off the cravings as inexpensively as possible. Nobody is paying more for really good meth at the consumer end. If you had some really pure meth, you'd just mash it up with some baking soda until it was the same shit your methheads have been surviving on the entire time. Literally the first thing that would happen to a kilo of 99% pure meth would be turning it into four kilos of 50% pure meth and nobody would run around talking about how pure it was like it was some kind of abstract accomplishment.
>>218893206sorry I didn't read the thread, some other anon already said this and the rest of you have diabetes and autism
>they'd just add a bunch of weird chemicals to dilute the meth and sell moreCouldn't that make it less healthy and get people sick though?
>>218891845why was he bothering with the meth if he was making insane bank with his chicken. if this show took place in 2025 he would have gotten a 300,000,000 buyout from mcdonalds
>>218893206>meth is just to keep you from going into withdrawalsThat’s what benzos are for retard. Clearly you’ve never taken adderall because in the beginning it’s nearly the same euphoria as meth and highly addictive. There is a reason it’s schedule 2 and hard to get now. It would essentially be opioid epidemic part 2 of they didn’t start heavily restricting who can get it now
>>218893531not that anon but are people really telling the truth about meth being similar to adderall? I took a high dosage of it for years and it always felt like it barely even affected me
>>218891845he would've dieded at salamancas place without walt and jesse. he could only bring mike and his cook and there's no way in hell he would've found someone competent enough to be both a GREAT (anything less wouldn't cut it) cook and a decent soldier.
>>218891845Really the confusing thing is why he and his dead gay friend wanted into the cartel so badly... a trained chemist and business genius could just make money normally. It's like they were just spiritually devoted to killing Americans with drugs.
>>218893531>adderall because in the beginning it’s nearly the same euphoria as meth and highly addictivecould've fooled mejust kills my appetite doesn't even help me focus more
>>218893589I’ve never done meth so I don’t know but I would imagine for a while in the beginning it is similar
>bbut it's cheaper to produce low quality meth than high quality one so you can sell more shit one for cheaperthat's not how it works brainletboth 30% and pure meth use same amount of material. Lets say that 100mg of 30% meth has power of 300, while pure meth have power of 950As example, for a person to get high with shit meth he needs to take 10mg aka 30 power. Meanwhile, a single gram of pure meth ahs 9.5, meaning he'll already get higher for less, using 3mg of pure meth. So junk instead of buying 10mg, buys 3mg, becasue despite getting less mg for the same price, he gets more kick in with pure meth.With 100mg you can sell to 10 junkies. With 3 you can sell to 30+low quality meth just means you used same material that pure meth requires but you simply wasted it with shitty method. And while per mg pure meth can be more expensive than shit meth, it can be actually cheaper if going high and bulk is includedwhat the show did wrong, was to pretend that pure meth kicks a lot harder while costing more. Actual methhead doesn't care about quality, because he's a broke junkie and will get cheapest trash possible
>>218893531Adderall doesn’t cause euphoria in ADD sufferers. Meth gives everyone euphoria. That’s the main difference.
>>218893780Same it just made me calm down and sit in my seat at school but I still didn’t pay attention in class because the whole structure of class is designed around how girls learn not how boys learn. Forcing kids to sit in a classroom for 8 hours a day is insanity to me
>>218891845other than being born a nigger, sure
>>218891878>feed his ballsack to a dog in front of him and tape it to make sure no one else tries it eitheranimals get their ballsacks eaten all the time, is that supposed to impress me?
>>218891845What was Gus's endgame, anyway? Retire to an island somewhere? He had more than enough money to do so.
>>218892797>>218892882>>218892913Cartels aren't involved in meth specifically because they can't control a market, it can be made from like a dozen different precursor chemicals that are everyday household products, everything from over the counter cough medicine to certain kinds of fucking matches, and trying to kill every junkie who builds a meth lab in his grandma's kitchen would be a fool's errand.
>>218894021I gathered he was doing it all out of pure spite for the mexican cartels at that point
>>218893853this is such a retarded way of explaining it kek
>>218894088it's perfectly fit for a retarded frogposter to understand
>>218892682To gain market share and push your competition out of the market.
>>218892797Cartels don't give a shit about meth currently because it's a bargain bin drug. Their big money maker atm is fent, which they have high ROI on because the Chinese are shipping it in dirt cheap to help destroy the US and mutts suck that shit up like it's coca cola. Amusingly enough most cartels also prohibit sales of fent to people in their area because they don't want to kill their customers or destroy their civilization by creating a bunch of fent zombies.It's a good thing we're focusing on the real problems though and are bombing Iran!
>>218894424Unironically, and I never thought I'd say this because I hate the Chinese, but they've really demonstrated the weakness inherent in the sluggishness of an unmotivated elected body against a motivated authoritarian central regime. Fuck communists and I hope China gets wracked with every plague all at once, but they've opened my eyes to an extent. Which is ironic because their eyes only open so far.
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>>218893514That's often what happens with the legitimate business sides of organized crime, funnily enough. The Kennedy family ran speakeasies during Prohibition. Eventually it got profitable enough they didn't need to anymore.
>>218894178well that was unnecessary
>>218894682Democracy can't stand up to real threats. Even in WW2 the western allies needed the non-democratic Soviet Union to do most of the hard fighting to win.
>>218892585>>218892612No one would put up with a fag like walt even if the profits were massive. He was already making way more money than he could ever spend, why would he need to risk everything by relying on an annoying ledditor
>>218895039UK and France started an unwinnable war against Germany, then got lucky Germany and the USSR's own inevitable conflict began. They didn't need anyone to fight for them, they just played it smart and let foreigners they hated anyway defeat Germany for them.>>218894424>our people love being drug addicts, thats China's fault somehowlmao. This is a (You) problem for creating a culture that glorifies and profits from reckless drug use. Forget about the Waltons already? They weren't the first and they won't be the last.
>>218893514The chicken operation was just a front to launder money. Just look at how kind he was to his employees. A real fast food manager wouldn’t act like that
You guys all act like Gus was some machiavellian supergenius who only lost because he was outgeniused but that's just not true. He was deeply flawed, he was egotistical, sadistic, and greedy. He knew Walt and Jesse were trouble and worked with them anyway because his greed won out over his sense, then let them live way longer than they should have because of, once again, greed. He expanded way too quickly and came EXTREMELY close to being killed by the cartel, his plan to win Jesse's loyalty failed and only made him loyal to Mike, he compromised his otherwise super tight security to go gloat at Hector, etc.This is unironically a media literacy issue, one that's becoming more and more common nowadays. People dont think deeply about the plot so they only judge characters by their mannerisms and how people talk about them. He acts smug and composed and other characters say he's smart, they don't openly point out his flaws so he must not have any. The best example of this I can think of is Cersei from Game of Thrones, GRRM clearly wrote her as a fucking moron who screwed up constantly and thought she was way smarter than she actually was, and she only survived and maintained power because she was carried by her family members who were smarter than her. Then after they lost GRRM the retard writers who took over didn't understand her character at all and made her some master schemer that never failed or fucked up and could magically handwave blowing up their in universe equivalent of the pope and being the most hated person in the seven kingdoms with zero claim to the throne despite the entire GRRM portion of the show being about rebellions and how important it was to keep people pleased so they dont all rise up and kill you.
>>218893810I've got a script. At the beginning I took it, even double dosed some days. Felt good. Until I could barely do shit without taking it.Now it's as needed. Not taking it as a crutch and when I truthfully do to cognitively function. CBT/DBT helps. Knowing how the brain works helps.I'm half dose of what I had before and I'll keep tapering off until I'm done that shit.
>>218892913wow, psychedelics didn't even make the list.
>>218895153Gus is motivated by more than just money though he wants to get back at the cartel any way he can
>>218895856How does having a massive liability like Walt help him? He already had the means to fuck them up. They were always gonna summon him to Don Eladio's sex mansion where he was always gonna poison them.
>>218895536They're not addictive so there's no real market. No one ever got rich selling mushrooms and lsd.
>>218895318What do the Wal Mart guys have to do with any of this?>>218895388It made sense for him to be nice after the cartel guy came in acting loco so they wouldn't make noise about it.
>>218891845"Let's risk our whole venture for 2% extra purity when our customers are mindless zombies who would inject drano"
>>218891845My favourite part of the premise is that Gus transports his crystal meth in Los Pollos trucks, that if even one were to ever be stopped and checked would blow up his entire operation.
>>218892084They watched the show
>>218891845I don't why but "Pet Junkie" has me dying laughing.
>>218892712The point is that purer meth can be diluted into more crappy but functional end-product and so make more money
Breaking Bad has good characters and plots, but the issue is that the world-building is fucking awful. The Salamanca are literally 6 illegal Mexicans, Gus has like 4 gophers we see on screen. Who btw are literally swinging dope on the corner. The Cartel is 3 guys, no history on who they are, what they actually do. Just "The Cartel" and they somehow make enough money for Walt alone to be a multi-millionaire as the cook. It's absurd and illogical.
>>218892133Nah, if you dont get a good enough high you arent getting repeat customers. People talk and your reputation suffers. After a couple of burns, they will go somewhere else. There is always a somewhere else.
>>218892755>fast food capitalism
>>218902526They bury it in the buckets of prepackaged food. No cop would ever feel the need to look or be legally allowed to without a warrant. The hard part would be to face the public clientele and put up with their bullshit when you are loaded. One of the sprouse twins became a server in a restaurant for kicks. Couldn't be me.
>>218903460Don eladio is the boss, there would be no need for underlings besides staff and security.
>>218894424tough luck Gweilo, i didn't saw you cry about opium
>>218895856>>218897055There was a pride in being the best even if the best was a drug dealer that ruined lives. They were obsessed with power and Walt confesses in his desire for an empire.
He didn't account for a Garystu. Walt was overpowered
>>218897055Gus had an ego, having a "genius" like Walt working for him was too tempting
>>218897082Yeah psychodelics are hobby drugs.
Dumbest shit Gus ever did was stopping Mike from killing Hector.
>>218891845Eh, the hit on Bolsa still goes through but I don't think he makes it out after he gets revenge on Don Eladio, he needed Jesse. And he would've never gone after Hector until Eladio was dead anyways.Walt/Jesse were the reason Gus could easily continue his path of vengeance, without them he just stays a chicken man until the end of his days.
>>218892342been a long time since ive watched the show, but yeah something like that. if you could actually talk to the cartel, show them>I can save you 1/10th production cost while getting better puritythey would listen, i just don't know how the fuck you talk to them.low levels aren't cartel, technically don't even work for the cartel.that's like those japanese gangs that say they work for the yakuza. the yakuza tolerates you as useful idiots, but you aren't yakuza.
>>218908377lsd is serious but has an very fast tolerance. its not possible to take lsd daily and having a constant high.
>>218894424>It's a good thing we're focusing on the real problems though and are bombing Iran!And you think bombing Iran has no effect on China? Do you actually think we're trying to establish a "Greater Israel"? Do you know where China gets it's oil from?
>>218908843lsd is a serotonin antagonist, you are less likely to abuse it
>>218893514Tbf it's implied, and BCS really hammers it home, that both the chicken and meth empire are just vehicles for him to get revenge on Hector and Eladio. What the hell would His even do after they are all killed is a mystery, would he just become bored with it all, move to Mykonos and go on the cock carousel at 50 years old?
>>218891845Nah, keeping Hector alive was the real flaw in his plan. He should have just offed him instead of making him suffer. Or had Tyrese do it.His ego got him killed.
>>218908159The british did that
>>218891878That's boring and wouldn't make for an entertaining story
>>218909487Hector wouldn't have been a problem if he didn't show up on a regular schedule with minimal security to go gloat at him.
>>218909293He would probably kill himself like that dude from Old boy.
>>218909989Yeah because walter white is the only guy that can make special meth for some reason is sooo much better.
>>218891845No the only thing did wrong was sabatoge the whole operation over 2 child killing street thugs Walter ran over.
>>218913251why frog in jail
>>218895417I think the show Cercei could have worked but the writers were just shit in general and really their jewish subversion of white culture took over the show. Later seasons of Got were written with Girl bossing in mind and promoting people like cripples. Bran became King and Tyrion gained power not because they were the best people for the job but because Bran was handicapped and so was Tyrion so the entire show becomes about promoting non-whites, women, and cripples, and really the worst written character is Sansa where suddenly she becomes strong and to show her strength it makes Little Finger mentally retarded but even then its like her entire arc is getting raped and then using Little Finger's army to save Jon and take Winterfel. None of the plot afterwards makes any sense, but since the show is written from a girl boss perspective you constantly have women just saying they are strong and powerful but never actually doing anything to prove it. In reality Brienne would never beat half the male characters unless she was like some kind of intersex person which clearly she isnt and in medieval times steroids wasnt a thing. But the show is written from an idea that men and women are equal and if you put a woman who is trained with a sword against a man the woman can and will win.Cercei and Margery are the only smart people in Kingslanding while the high sparrow is just evil because hes a man and he comes off as a little one dimensional or even just this other master schemer despite us never actually seeing it or have it be developed. Within the later seasons everything just happens as a result of magical thinking or really everything is just contrieved by the writers without any logic or sense of characters deserving it.I would even unironcially say that in the entirety of the show Tyrion is actually an extremely evil character and everything Tywin says about him is right but because Tyrion is a midget and he talks smart then he gets a free pass.
>>218891878The problem with BB was (like most other crime shows) that it depicts the criminal business as predominantly white, which also makes it a lot more tame and talky then it is in real life.
>>218891845Yeah, using children to sell drugs and kill people, then kill those children isn't wrong.
>>218913517horny jail for the crime of horny
Why did Mike, a character who has outsmarted every other person in the BB universe and has a powerlevel that's higher than SSSJ Broly job to Walt in S5?
>>218891878It was written by rich people who get their drugs from chemists/Epstein where the Wire had more real consulting with actual drug dealers/cops
>>218892712You're fucking retarded if you do not think meth is super popular in elite circles. Stims have always been huge in that world Trump's drug of choice watch his dark knight review from before he was president and look into the drawer Sudafed. You know how easy it is to get addies at Harvard?
>>218893589>>218893780>>218893902Meth is usually cut the euphoria can come from a variety of other things you're never getting the same shit. You basically get 15-30 min of feeling amazing and then another 8-12 of being up like a coke buzz real talkative horny social if you never do it if you're an addict you just get a short shitty buzz to hold off sickness like opiates. All of these drugs do have medical purpose it just is Ritalin was massively over prescribed because doctors were getting a kickback same with Xanax oxycodone etc if you actually needed Xans or Adderall they just make you feel normal vs people who didn't that it fucked them up for life their chemistry was already fine.
>>218891845>literally have a kids whacked>threaten to kill holly>NO DONT TOUCH THE KID KILLING NIGGER
>>218894424Dude fent is cheaper than meth are you fucking stupid. Fent is everywhere because it is so fucking cheap. Pennies and you can make massive profit. Chinks are ecstatic to sell it too cause it is opiate warfare to fuck up the US
In this thread:Homeless junkies (x)Lydia's exclusive Amsterdam junkies that only want the purest meth (_)
>>218908881Walk into a government building and say that you don't believe in greater Israel. It is a charge in most states.
>>218895417The show is written by Jews who get their dope from a list like this. It is okay to just admit they write from their life experiences which are different from your own they don't see greed as a flaw by their nature however they are extremely neurotic and territorial which reflects in the writing of the characters. Oh and for anyone fucking acting like Meth is too low class for rich people they have Methadone on the list which is basically Suboxone tier it is for poor people trying to get off Heroin/fent
>>218922161The show had multiple writers.
>>218895388?
>>218922377Its acceptable.
>>218891845Why did the baldy man blowed up the black man with the bell thing? What did he do bad? Did he not like his Happy Meal?
>>218891845Imagine thinking Gus wasn't also an egomaniac. Normalfags really got one-shot by that retarded tantrum by Mike when he was butthurt Walt didn't let himself get murdered like a good boy.
>>218922377he was having a day. it happens.managers are like this normally and then utterly unreasonable on bad days
>>218922192Do not disrupt his head-canon. Let him cook.
>>218915644 BB makes it *feel* white-collar because we’re stuck in Walt’s POV 90% of the time. You’re following a suburban chemistry teacher LARPing as Scarface, not some cartel sicario doing liveleak auditions in Juárez.Also New Mexico isn’t exactly Compton. The show actually does show the cartel and the street-level tweakers - that’s Combo getting iced by a literal child on a bicycle, that’s the Cousins crawling out of hell, that’s Gus running an industrial-scale operation behind a chicken mascot. It’s not “talky” because it’s white, it’s talky because it’s about ego and rot and a guy convincing himself he’s a mastermind while ruining his own family.If you want chaotic, documentary-tier street realism go rewatch The Wire. BB was always Shakespeare with meth instead of swords.
>>218903460Bolsa brought connections to the FederalesHector brought manpower and gunsEladio brought the money to start it all and the swimming poolGus (I know, not one of the three) brought the cover business and his gay lover would have brought chemical experience
>>218908289Gale was almost on Walt's level, he would have been enoguh as a genius
>>218922030I fucking hated that line. Sure, Lydia, your Euro junkies are more discerning because they're Euros. Fuck off.
>>218891845I mean, other than the murder and drug dealing, sure he did nothing wrong >>218892092You don't "step on meth" you moron>>218892253Why did Jesse put chilli sauce in his meth? Who the fuck wants chilli in their meth?
