>NOOO, YOU HAVE TO LIKE AND WATCH TV SHOWS THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT MADE FOR YOU!>CONSUUUUMEHow the fuck did we get like this? If a show sucks, it sucks.
>>218907142rangeban twitter ragebait screencap posters
>>218907227This has been going on for years now. Nothing will change. You're pissing into the wind.
NOOOO Not my Strange New Genders. Not my USS Emo and its magical negroes. Not my Pickle Trek. Shut the fuck up. They can't afford to ice this franchise anyway.
>>218907142But the shows flop and end up getting canceled because they suck ass
>>218907671But, you need to support them anyway even though they told real fans to fuck off years ago.
>>218907767These companies hate the fans and rather push their bullshit identity politics. I’m gay and brown but I refuse to support woke slop
>>218907227Going to have to shut down Eglin Air Force Base's servers if you want that I'm afraid.
>things like Strange New Worlds won't happenAnd that's a good thing. I agree with the sentiment though.
They've been telling us we have to eat shit for decades or else nothing good will ever come out again.
>>218907142stop trying to make the future gay and non whiteone blackone asianone jew (villain for sure)
>either make it wokeslop or dont make it at allThat how it is?
>>218908114... But Bibi owns our daddy. How can he be a villain?
>>218907832How did we figure out it was Eglin anyway?
>>218908150Things need to be successful for there to be a financial incentive to branch out. LOST was dogshit, but its massive success led to great tv shows.
>>218908005>They've been telling us we have to eat shit for decadesAnd wonder why they keep failing.
>>218908234It was the #1 reddit city.https://web.archive.org/web/20160410083943/http://www.redditblog.com/2013/05/get-ready-for-global-reddit-meetup-day.html?m=1
>>218907142People like this confound me. If a product is bad, the only way the consumer can tell them it's bad is to not buy/view/consume. If they just blindly consume bad product, they are complicit in more bad product being made. They really don't understand even basic economics, do they? Like, if someone opens a restaurant that serves literal shit, I would hope no one buys it and that they get run out of town, otherwise more more restaurants will start serving shit. You don't support it because you like restaurants in general. Geez.
>>218908234Glowmiggers are fucking stupid. They always fuck up their propaganda programs. One such fuck up led to the discovery on reddit that they were responsible for almost all posts. Later it was discovered that almost all posts on reddit are bots. The same is true of 4chan. And pretty much every major online site that has any kind of discussion about politics or anything else for that matter. Though technically Eglin is the worst offender, other bases are also involved such as McConnell and Wright-Patterson. Pine Gap in Australia is also very active. But for some reason there is something going on in the Netherlands which I have not yet identified which is almost as active as Eglin. The Netherlands in fact are by far the most active poster of propaganda on 4chan per capita. I don't know what the hell's going on there. Canada is also quite bad. But again I haven't located the base there.
>>218907227Hiro probably took the money to have them in the first place.
>>218908371I think they're either paid to defend it no matter what or they simply enjoy watching real fans suffer. This slop is starting to become unwatchable so someone would have to be on some really powerful psychoactive meds to actually enjoy it.
>>218908371These aren't the product. You are the product. We are already post-capitalist, it's only the poor that still have to put up with it. The rich aren't even pretending to seek profits anymore. Only destroy everyone else's lives.
>>218908417Most of reddit is under control of a couple dozen mods and its old CEO got murdered.
>>218908494Ghislaine Maxwell is also the top poster on the site. Her father, Robert also took over all scientific publishing, which is why it's in the toilet too now and nobody can actually trust experts anymore. Because they're all lying now.
>>218908371Assuming they aren't literal shills. There's a lot of people who can't fathom beyond false-dichotomies they're trapped in. (This one being, you have to accept the bad so maybe you get the good, or else you'll get nothing)So trying to reason with them is questioning their very reality.
>>218908371These people exist, if you know any hobby space subreddit that are overmoderated to be "safe for advertisers", it's full of people like this (just look at star trek/acolyte/true detective s4 subs)They aren't bots is the thing. They are what happens when you restrict all forms of conversation except for positive ones. The ones remaining either have the worst taste in existence, or they just see constant lying as a way to climb the social ladder.
>>218908453>someone would have to be on some really powerful psychoactive meds to actually enjoy itExplains most nu-anything fans.
>>218907227fpbp
>>218907142Didn't RTD literally say if you're not writing gay, political stories that you're doing it wrong or something?All I remember is that it was very stupid
>>218908628Those aren't people, they're bots.
>>218908302Are you a bot
>>218908682>Didn't RTD literally say if you're not writing gay, political stories that you're doing it wrong or something?How many people want that, though? I think that after all of the flops and cancellations, it's apparent very few people do.
Science Fiction is absolutely the worst genre to push your agenda if you have one because it becomes transparent as fuck.I'm amazed it lasted as long as it did, s01e01 of Discovery was 9 years ago. That's 9 years of Star Trek without any Sci-Fi authors whatsoever. Quite possibly the most retarded thing in media.
>>218908906It lasted as long as it did because Kurtzman is a genuine true believer of all this woke nonsense and he hired writers based on how much they agreed with him
>>218907142>listen to fans>it flops anyway
>>218909151Because Ghostbusters is too goofy a concept to work outside the 80s, no matter how much talent you have.
>>218907142The Batman with Robert Patterson had woke elements but nothing too overbearing. Like how the only redeemable gangster was the black boy, or how Catwoman brings up white privilege. The mayor as well but overall a great film.
>>218909151Um, which fan asked for this?
Once you realize all of Hollywood is just uncreative nepo babies that support current thing it all makes sense.
>>218909186Same for Star Trek, it's a niche franchise. Paramount should just give up at this point.>>218909245All of them.
>>218909151>hey can you bring back the old decrepit actors to stumble around a CGI set and parrot some of their old lines to prop up the new cast that nobody gives a fuck aboutI don't recall asking for this.
>>218908906>9 years of Star Trek without any Sci-Fi authors whatsoever.That's by design, these Californians don't wanna write science fiction, they want to write gay coffee shop love stories and hate that they don't get to write boring stories about living in LA or NYC all the time
>>218909284Even worse, Hollywood is filled with incredibly talented people, but they're all cult members who have to push agendas.
>>218909296And it was a sequel to the 2021 Ghostbusters and made almost the exact same amount of money as that did. Is pic related "what fans wanted"?
>>218909151ghost busters is a really shallow franchise. Not an insult, just stating the obvious that everything that you could possibly do with the idea was done with the first two, and even then most people think the second movie was stretching it thin. Star Trek on the other hand is a deeply rich franchise with a whole bunch of possible shows and movies and spin offs. The idea of a show focusing on Star Fleet cadets is itself a great idea. Wokeslop sucks not just because of the heavy handed political propaganda stuff, but also because they hire mediocre and incompetent writers/actors/camerapeople ect through DEI practices so everything about the show is cheap and shitty. everything was better when jewish perverts ran hollywood.
>>218907142>you have to keep eating shit or the shit manufacturers won't ever make anything good!Where's the incentive for them to change if they know you'll just keep eating shit?
>>218909362Also I now realize it was just a copy of Stranger Things. Didn't realize this at the time.
>>218909362I didn't watch that either because it looked like another gay soulless rehash, so apparently not.For that matter, if the first made the same money as the second and the second was considered a flop, why'd they make a sequel to a flop in the first place?
>>218909151I don't think anyone wanted a new Ghosbusters at all.Everyone is tired of remakes, reboots, or movies using established, older franchises as some sort of skin to market to old people and kids alike.Make new shit.
>>218909291>Same for Star Trek, it's a niche franchise.Star Trek can work outside the 60s, the issue is, it stops working when it stops being niche.And television series just aren't allowed to be niche anymore, so yeah, Paramount should stop trying regardless.
>>218909151It took them 2 missteps and 35 years to get here and you can't bring back Harold Ramis.
>>218909458It works if you just do it well.
>>218907142>How the fuck did we get like this?You personally? I think we can safely assume giving yourself over so completely to looking for shit to bitch about played its part.
>>218909557So I hear. Too bad Maverick was such shit.
>>218909541who needs him when we've got TIMOTHEE CHALAMET?>"my name is Egon Spengler Jr. I collect spores, mold and fungus."*sigh*what could have been
>>218909606If I ask you any sort of a question will you just answer with "No"?
>>218909660Emphatically not the case. And Maverick was shit.
>>218907142Amazon could make the most mid show ever and chuds would eat it up if it were warhammer related.
>>218909687still seething about the protected lore?
>>218909687As Jeff Bezos is probably still stamping his feet and demanding to know where "his" GoT is (let's face it, absolutely no-one thinks in those terms about The Rings of Power) I'd say the chance is fair to good.
>>218909151genuinely who the fuck was asking for the original Ghostbusters to return when they're ancient and Harold Ramis is dead?
>>218909682>can't even play along that little to answer with a No to cause a paradox
>>218909711No I love guarding lore and gatekeeping. In fact need to gatekeep Dune and Avatar from Warhammer fans.
I don't know or expect to know who popularized that way of using the word "lore" but I hope the party responsible is right now dying of treatment-resistant super AIDS.
>>218907227Just block india and the rest will sort itself out
>>218909296>prop up the new cast that nobody gives a fuck aboutThis right here is why so many revivals/reboots fail, because they keep trying to lie to themselves that people will move on from beloved characters and latch onto the new out of brand loyalty which is just dead wrong and why some of these legacy sequels resort to the "your old favorites are bitter losers, these new protagonists are better because they're focus group-tested and corporate approved"
>>218909363At its core Ghostbusters is a movie about a bunch of weirdos going into business as exterminators and saving the city almost inadvertently.Trying to turn it into some wacky kids adventure movie or whatever the fuck the last two were attempting, or worse, just going "uh it's the same movie but infinitely shittier" like the 2016 version did was never going to succeed.
>>218909785I thought I did, just that bit too snottily to use a plain "no".
>>218909458Fans wanted a Ghostbusters 3 through out the 90's and early 00's. They should have just made one without Murray. It's incredibly dumb to marry the franchise to him. Ghostbusters 2016 was also dumb, cause why are you rebooting it? Why are you doing a franchise movie, but explaining to people what it is, as if they don't know what ghostbusters is?! Ghotsbuters had every chance to be a big deal like star trek or fast and furious and what have you, and they blew it. Star trek will be fine. They'll try something else in a few years.
>>218908754Are you?
>>218909856Every time I see modern-day Ghostbusters shit I just automatically think back to when the 2016 movie had all the actors doing the talk show circuit, and one clip where the camera focuses on an aging Bill Murray as he stares blankly forward and utters a completely deadpan>yes. these girls are funny.
>>218909933>Star trek will be fine. They'll try something else in a few years.That's what I tend to think but for reasons I'm *sure* have nothing to do with /tv/ being so much like the entertainment media it professes to hate hyperbole's normative hereabouts.
>>218909151>Ice themed Did they run out of immediately recognizable supernatural ideas so fast that all they had left was ice?
>>218909856The suits think it's the IP fans love and nothing else, how they came to this conclusion I'll never know
>>218907142After 14 years you would think there would be a popular revolt.
>>218910086Sure you will. You already do. It's imaginative failure on their part, as I should think's obvious to everyone.
>>218910030Maybe someone really liked Silent Hill: Shattered Memories.
>>218910086This is being willfully ignorant we already know people with a woke mindset want to push their agenda onto the masses. They’re open about demonizing white straight men in their own countries. There was also the target and kids media scandals where they were pushing lgbt propaganda on to minors. For what reason? Kids aren’t sexually aware. It’s all indoctrination.
>>218910160And nobody loves it more than you.
>>218907227/tv/ is unmoderated. We get 1(one) AI autojanny to delete porn and that's it.
>>218910160whatever lets you pretend epstein and his conspicuously white "lgbt"-free island didn't happen I guess
But I was told everyone loved the show except maga incels
>>218910286The demonization of whites and white western countries is a prominent thing and leftest spaces. The people creating these woke shows and movies are open about their politics. We also see this happening in video games. Why are you acting brand new?
>>218910015/tv/ is full of a bunch of "I told you so" faggots who hate everything already as a default and want it all to fail so they can say "I told you so" when it does. Then they'll try to say things like an 850m movie isn't a success, because they like to say "I told you so" even though, they're wrong. Thing is, few things are truly "hits" these days, clear and obvious success is actually rare. If everything is failing, why are we still getting stuff? Surely they must be making money some how. No one on /tv/ predicted Minecraft being a big hit. Why? Cause they're completely out of touch with the general audience. /tv/ is not the general audience. Then if something is a hit like Fallout, /tv/ hates it, cause they don't like anything succeeding. Once more people realize this, sometimes we can have chill threads and talk about movies and ignore these types. Cause there's lots of cool people here who like tv, movies and so on. Classic /trek/ threads tend to be fine. Academy needed to find an audience for it to succeed, it potentially failed. It doesn't bother me it existed, it doesn't bother me it's going away. Only absolutely retards are invested in its failure.
>>218910316Did that really happen? I don't mean any actual slight to you but I'm always suspicious as hell of this sort of statement.
>>218910356>a prominent thing and leftest spacesWhat the fucking hell does that even mean?>Why are you acting brand new?Pretty fucking rich from the guy behaving in exactly the fashion everyone new to the board and anxious to fit in does.
>>218909856The X-Files is the ultimate example of this, twice, twice the show tried to replace the original leads first was with Doggett & Reyes who were supposed to lead the series for the future of a post-Mulder & Scully era, they tested the waters with it in the final season and nobody was buying it.The second time came during the two revival seasons where they tried implying these two newbie agents were going to be the future of The X-Files and lead a spinoff but that didn't happen because again, nobody wanted it.
>>218910361>Classic /trek/ threads tend to be fine.It probably helps the people involved them actually know their subject and aren't slow to recognize attempted third-party interference for what it is. Shocking stuff.
>>218909291Nobody asked for that Ghostbusters shit
>>218908371It's actually worse when you consider the thing he's shilling is franchise slop from a giga-corp. The "you have to support it to get better things" is only really an argument for projects put out by indies who will use the earnings of their last project to hopefully better fund their next.
>>218907142For Starfleet Academy's budget you could put out a romantasy series or several YA book adaptations for a fraction of the cost. That would actually drive meaningful growth in their precious audience of women and lgbt to their platform. Why use male brands for this in the first place? This is all deeply unserious culture war bullshit.
>>218907830>I’m gay and brown but I refuse to support woke slop
>>218910361>Academy needed to find an audience for it to succeedThe audience it was trying to find were teenagers and people who wanted to see Star Trek, but as a teen drama unfortunately the latter audience never fucking existed to begin with and the former, well, they're still normies and normie teens don't like sci fi
>>218910631Heh.
>>218909362>>218909151A franchise can absolutely ruin its reputation so bad that nobody cares about it any more, which is exactly what happened with Ghostbusters
>>218910659>>218910631>girlfrien' y'all step off now, proud Black woman comin' thru
>>218910617>Why use male brands for thisBecause they stupidly think that women and gays will flock to anything if they insert things that women and fags like in their shows
>>218910653It really never stood a chance for this year. Young people love hot new things, but if they don't pick it up it's dead. OIder people will wait. Breaking Bad, GoT, they all built an audience over time. Star Trek is notorious for having weak first seasons and growing into them. So if you make a show without adults in mind, it better be a hit right away, and it wasn't. So now they're stuck with a show no one wants. They rolled the dice and lost.
>>218910286>Epstein was the only degenerate on Earthseriously?
>>218907142The gay lefties who spent the last decade on social media saying all straight white men need to die are now angry those same straight white men aren't watching gay leftie Star Trek.Make it make sense....
>>218910653>and normie teens don't like sci fiShit they blow a gasket the moment horror movies or shows have horror content in them, believe it or not
>>218910361>Academy needed to find an audience for it to succeedThis is the real sticking point. You already have an audience for your show, Star Trek is was one of the most popular sci-fi franchises in the world.But instead of making something for that audience, they desperately try to seek new audiences for whatever gay reason, be it "reee our old audience are heckin' chuds" or just the insanely misguided "if we can just manage to appeal to everyone who aren't fans, our existing fans will still eat it up!"Then it fucking fails like it always does and they turn around and blame the old fans for not digging their heads into the trough that they filled with shit like good consumers.
>>218907142>but they won't make more!!Why do they say this like I care? Video games fags say this too.If they're going to keep making shit like this, I don't want any more. I'll just rewatch TNG. I'll keep playing my old games.
>>218911142>Shit they blow a gasket the moment horror movies or shows have horror content in them, believe it or notDidn't they get all mad when a villain raped someone on Game of Thrones?A bad guy did something bad? Oh no!
>>218910086Nostalgia is a big thing but they are just lazy with it and assume the name and some shitty references is enough.
>>218911234The stupidest thing about the whole>nooo you need to watch the slop or they won't make anything goodmentality is it never leads to anything good being made, it only leads to studios and publishers coming to the realization of>damn, these people really have no fucking standards, we can just keep making low-effort shit and they'll watch it
>>218911295They've been brainwashed into thinking that depicting any sufficiently negative act in fiction is equivalent to an explicit endorsement of that act by the writers, most likely because they've been surrounded by writers who can only write shit based on their own incredibly limited personal experiences.
>>218911295That was a bunch of retarded millennials but yes, that too. For some reason they have an intense aversion to things like villains being evil, horror being scary or even gruesome, or characters not being blank slates to project themselves onto
>>218911470>depicting any sufficiently negative act in fiction is equivalent to an explicit endorsement of that act by the writersKekThat explain the "I'm a murderous maniac but I would NEVER say a slur" toothlessness of modern villains
>>218911519>characters not being blank slates to project themselves ontoIt's not about projection, it's about empathizing. It makes a character more real if you can relate to them and thus empathize with them.
>>218911470>writers who can only write shit based on their own incredibly limited personal experiences.This right here is what hurts TV & movie writing is you've got a bunch of LA & NYC liberals who literally cannot comprehend there's life outside of how they live, they cannot comprehend that people aren't exactly like them.
>>218907227It's X, sweetie.
>>218911667That sounds also like how you make boring characters with no personality, no conflict between said characters and thus no real story
>>218907142How about these TV reviewing cunts stop acting like they make these shows day by day? Sorry they aren't going to "react" to the "outrage" and retroactively delete all the footage of the Klingon because you don't like him. They can't change most of anything you don't like in post its done. So why keep pretending like you are going to "harrass for the fans" when you KNOW full well it won't do anything. Its worse than pro wrestling.How about at least a constructive complaint like make the episodes shorter or longer maybe they can do this in post.
>>218908417>The Netherlandsprobably NATO and /k/ posters
>>218910631>>218910659>>218910787>look at this one case from 6 years ago, then another dude making fun of it, then a third grifter trying to get famous by any means necessary and using a real woman's picture
>>218907142The problem is that these shows and movies are being made specifically for critics, with pleasing strictly the critics in mind and not getting the audience insteadYou see this shit in pro wrestling nowadays where wrestlers are trying to get the approval of one faggot jew and not the people paying to see the shows
>>218907142Making endless derivative SLOP that "the fans expect" is exactly what turned Anime into a gigantic steaming pile of turds.What you SHOULD do is not keep reheating the same tired franchises for decades, and serving it up a thousand times.You make a story about a kid pirate with magical powers looking for pirate treasure, wrap that shit up in 5 or 6 years top, don't turn it into some garbage institution that'll go on for 3 or more decades.There is absolutely noting in "Starfleet" worth exploring for 60 years of production.
>>218907142OP, SJW's are narcissistic sociopaths with the minds of children (mostly North American white women) and determined to invade, infest and destroy anything white straight males care about with deliberate malicious intent just so that they can call you names because they never developed intellectually or emotionally beyond grade school and their Daddy issues.They simply hate us and will use anything as a weapon to attack out of spite and ultimately want us to be subservient to them or dead as there is no middle ground with these cockroaches as everything they think, say and/or do is motivated by hate and making everyone as miserable as they are is the only thing that makes them happy because they are evil monsters in NPC skins!!!FACT!!!
>>218911967>narcissistic sociopaths with the minds of children
>>218911930and there also was a black gay republican who was possibly running the dude's account called William "Byl" Holte
>>218911967>narcissistic sociopaths with the minds of children (mostly North American white women)But redundant, isn't that?
>>218909151people wanted a third movie back in like 2005, when everyone was still alive, and appropriately old instead of just depressingly old.
>>218908302And making it brown, gay and lame isn't financially secure. So why continue?
>>218912008>the side who just doesnt like our sociopathic, navel-gazing are the REAL sociopaths.yeah right.
>>218911967This is why I welcome A.I. as a new way to make entertainment and before any of you philistine cocksuckers start squawking "AI SLOP", show me anything that looks better than the ACTUAL SLOP you'd rather have corporations feed you like good little piggies while using that phrase to attack something is NPC behavior and shows how easily programmed you are, fighting on behalf of companies that hate their customers and now afraid because of the almost limitless potential of A.I. means they're no longer needed while hearing them and their minions scream "AI SLOP!!!" repeatedly like an animal crying in pain before it dies and what Hollywood did to themselves by pandering to woke ideological fanatics who invade, infested and destroy everything from within!
>>218908302>LOST was dogshitIt got six seasons and was the hottest show on TV for all six years of it's run, I fail to see how a show could do that if it was dogshit
>>218912008>pay for our communist propaganda otherwise we won't make anymore you fucking chud!!!!
>>218912233Or do you want more sequels, prequels and/or remakes that cost hundreds of millions of dollars and only now made because of brand recognition and why you get sequels to Blade Runner and Tron movies, both of which famously bombed or The Exorcist sequels when the only successful one was the first with everything after tanking and only made because its I.P. is well known to the general public and the literal definition of insanity, repeating the same actions and expecting a different result!Also, the repeated use of the phrase A.I. SLOP is to turn the public against A.I. because it's seen as a threat to the entertainment industry when people can now practically make their own entertainment while companies spend 500+ million making actual SLOP that no one wants.But you might have noticed that no one is using the word SLOP when talking about A.I. replacing people who work in I.T. or other technology sectors because it benefits them by getting rid of people. But in this case it's the opposite as people don't need companies and corporations and that's scaring them, so they're engaging in a massive campaign to convince people to not embrace A.I. for entertainment purposes.
>>218912301Its like how SJW identity politics started skyrocketing across the media after the Occupy Wall Street movement to create strife amongst people over issues such as race, gender and/or sexual orientation to distract everyone from the crimes committed by the corporations and banks that crashed the world economy, of which no one was ever held accountable, well, maybe except for Bernie Madoff but then his mistake was stealing from other rich people!The sad thing is that over the last few years I've see soo many incredible things produced with A.I. showing more imagination and creativity than any of the SLOP "entertainment" over at least the last decade from movies, tv show, videogames, comics etc....I'd have sympathy if the media hadn't spent the last 10-15 years weaponizing entertainment as a part of their culture war against customers (i.e. white straight males) and using social media to destroy peoples lives and run everything into the ground!So fuck you philistine cocksuckers and keep wallowing in the SLOP that Hollywood feeds you because you deserve no better and as always FUCK YOU!!!FACT!!!
>>218912233>>218912342>>218912342Samefagging
Let's put a tranny satanic witch on star trek. Sometimes you gotta say thing out loud to yourself to see if they are ridiculous, this people obviously fail.
>>218912008Show me a single thing where the primary demographic is made up of women, blacks, gays and/or trannies that white straight males have tried to take over and ruin while the attached pic is you!!!FACT!!!!
>>218912342Best comment award go too.
>>218912454>Best comment award go too.
>>218912262LOST is where every shitty trend you see in TV today comes from
>>218912604I only saw like 3 episode of Lost and all I remember about it was there was an old guy and a really fat guy. Nothing useful to add, just felt like bringing that up.
>>218912775kek
>>218912604>every shitty trendSuch as?
>>218911667The problem here is that the people doing the writing for this garbage are incapable of empathizing with anyone who isn't a direct copy of them in both looks and personality.It's the same with the constant push for "representation" in everything. Kids in the 80s and 90s had no problem identifying with the fucking Ninja Turtles, nobody was saying>baaaw where's the gay black cripple turtle who has to use a wheelchair, I'm being left outbecause they were capable of actual empathy, not self-obsessed projection.
>>218907142Proposal accepted. I'm perfectly okay with no more Star Trek if it stops retards like Kurtzman from raping it's corpse.
>>218911841The constructive criticism leveraged against the show seems to be>the concept is fine but your execution is awful, go back to the drawing board because nobody in their right mind will find this appealing to watchand it seems like that was right on the money if it's already been cancelled.
>>218913311>the concept is fine but your execution is awful, go back to the drawing board because nobody in their right mind will find this appealing to watchThe problem is the creatives find even constructive criticism a deeply personal attack on their very existence
>>218912375...Anon, it's a namefag, no shit.
>>218913373That's because they're narcissists at heart, and they take any criticism or even mild disagreement as a personal affront.
>>218912604>where every shitty trend you see in TV today comes fromFactually incorrect, love triangle plotlines existed well before Lost, I hated them before Lost and I hate every show that introduces one
>>218909296I personally think all 80s shit needs to be put to rest. Stop trying to revive everything and squeeze one last dime out of it.
I went to r/startrek and they were outraged at Academy being cancelled and horrified at the idea of the new Paramount owners doing something different with Trek.
>>218913583Got any funny screenshots?
>>218913553The problem therein is that modern Hollywood writers have very little in the way of interesting ideas. Coupled with the industry being utterly devoid of charismatic actors that aren't already one foot in the grave, it's hard to make a good original movie.Much easier to buy up the rights to some moderately popular bullshit from the 80s and go "hey fuck it let's just shit out a remake/sequel, it's already got an audience".
>>218910361>/tv/ is full of a bunch of "I told you so" faggots who hate everything already as a default and want it all to fail so they can say "I told you so" when it does.Maybe because for the last 12-15 years, almost everything that has come out has sucked, and it all boils down to one singular thing. Not making things for the real fans and instead trying to cater to an audience that does not exist.If this show flopped because the chuds didn't watch it, then maybe you should have made it for the chuds.There is this hope that if they fail enough times, maybe they will learn their lesson. That hope is dying.
as much as i hate trekkiefaggots you did not deserve what was unleashed upon youdefinitely got hit the hardest
>>218913311>the concept is fineNo it isn’t. It wasn’t back in the 90’s when they first considered “90210 in space” and it’s still a bad idea.
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>>218912342>SJW identity politics started skyrocketing across the media after the Occupy Wall Street movementYeah bro world was definitely created when you were fifteen.
>>218913681At this point, if they fail enough times they just get bought out and the new owner repeats the problem, but worse.
>>218907142There's hundreds of hours of good star trek and shitposting on /tv/ won't stop anytime soon, so what more do I need
>>218913817>90210 in spaceWhat show was this?
>>218913841Pretty much. It seems like these fuckers are untouchable.
>>218907142>if this show fails they won't make moreGood? That's the whole point. People don't want them to make more if this is the trash we get from it. I'd rather see trek die out forever than have it turn into this trash.
>>218913820This person has one point and that is to slash theses fucking Trek budgets, Star Trek was always notable for doing a lot with less, throwing money at making TV shows into "cinematic experiences" has been nothing but a failure.FYI, did you know the average episode of Yellowstone cost around $12 million? For what fucking reason? Dunno, the spinoffs are all in that range of budget too
>>218913992I guarantee most modern Hollywood productions are just money laundering. You see shit like this all the time now with "oh whatever new gay sci-fi show cost 180 million per episode" and yet you know it was filmed with a bunch of nobody actors who were paid peanuts and shot in front of a blank backdrop, then outsourced to the cheapest CGI workshop they could find in Calcutta.There's no way they're spending that much money making the show, they'd have been crucified by the suits. Everyone's got to be padding their pockets with this shit.
>>218913992>the average episode of Yellowstone cost around $12 million?Guarantee you a good chunk of that was Kevin Costner's salary because there's no way a name value actor like him was cheap, also for each season produced a show bumps up the casts pay so whatever his retardedly high salary was? It got bumped up repeatedly.
>>218914511That's also the big problem, hiring big name actors, that kind of stunt casting used to be seen as pure desperation
>>218915190Well that problem has basically sorted itself out since big names themselves are dying out
The problem with Star Trek is that Kurtzman literally showed the door to anyone who liked Trek beforehand because he's a narcissistic little turbofaggot who didn't want anyone to tell him no or shoot down his dumb ideas
>>218909151>Everybody drinks from the Well>Poison the Well>People stop drinking from the Well>Eventually remove Poison from the Well>People are slow to go back to drinking from the Well, if they come back at all>"OMG YOU CHUDS DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT 'MUH POISON', DO YOU???"It's almost as if the concept of "Reputational Damage" exists. It's almost as if the 2016 Ghostbusters was so shit it kind of poisoned the fucking well.
>>218907142>This is one of you guysAy, ay, ay.
>>218907142because the people who write it genuinely have writing talent but cannot separate how they are and how they look, with what the audience wants to see and have people do. so you might have a dude that wears a skirt because it's le quirky, maybe he writes incredibly funny dialogue, but he also wants males in the show to wear skirts.
>>218908417lol shut the fuck up you schizophrenic little freak. this is like re.ddit talking about bigfoot. You are incapable of understanding what you are watching.
>>218911733>sweetieDon't call me that you presumptuous asshole. I'm not a sweetie, I'm a mad dog. You get me barkin' and I will bare my fangs. F*g.
>>218918782>because the people who write it genuinely have writing talentyou are out of your fucking mind if you think the modern writers' rooms are brimming with talent in 2026. Do you even remember the writers' strike? Every half decent writer left and told every new writer not to enter the business and they didn't. Now the writers are the nepo kids of black execs.
>>218913681There used to be more variety and lower levels of success. Now everyone aims for the biggest hit. There's too much pressure to be a Star Wars, or Harry Potter, or Sopranos or Walking Dead. Everything goes for biggest audience. When you try to make everyone happy, yea, it usually sucks. It wasn't like this when Star Trek was actually doing well. TNG-ENT happened because they hit a really good stride and formula. Star Trek appealed to certain kind of people. Then it built up an audience and Voyager had to appeal to the masses more. It's why the TNG movies generally suck. No longer are they doing mysteries or moral plays, it's sci-fi action, which was always a dressing of star trek, but not it's main course. I have more than hope, I believe it. It will go back to genre pieces. It's going to take time, but it's happening. They'll make smaller cheaper shows that are niche. If they don't, literal youtubers will do it instead. Horror, crime, sci-fi, romance, each genre is ripe and starting to come back in its purer forms. Someone will always aim for the next GOT or Avatar. Star Trek needs to burn off some notoriety for it dial back. It may never, and may always be meddled with by producers. In general, media is going to adapt, or it dies. It's too profitable to not adapt.
>>218907142I would've watched Nu-Trek if it were anything like Star Trek, but it just wasn't. I don't know what was so hard about doing a sci-fi anthology show, but they simply could NOT do it.
>>218913635Hollywood writers are hired to make projects instead of shopping ideas to get them made. It's backwards. Ghostbusters and Star Trek were labors of love from people who worked on other projects and knew it would work. This never happens now. Instead they hire people and tell them who is cast and coming back and what things to include. It's the wrong way to make things. >>218914404>I guarantee most modern Hollywood productions are just money launderingDepends how you define laundering, but this is actually true. What they're doing is currently legal. There was traditional no money in TV because it was always done on the cheap, re-using actors, sets, costumes and so on. You couldn't fake receipts or write anything off. How much actually gets "spent" on shows is often a lie. >>218914511Yup, the most expensive thing is usually title actors. Reality shows cost 100k per episode. They don't have writers or actors to pay. It's often one day = 1 episode for reality shows too. If a scripted episode is 5 days to shoot, that's 500k. I could see a location shoot being 300k a day, still that's 1.5m an episode. None of this includes talent, Costner is getting a chunk.
>*Chimp noises*but why ruin Star Trek? its a nerd show. this communist woke cancer knows no bounds.
>>218907142Gay TrekStar FagsGovernment in Space
>>218907142>they won't make Strange New Wokeslop anymore!OH NO!!!!!
>>218908114This. and make men look like men and women look like (hot) women.I only want to see attractive and normal people on screen
>>218912262You see dogshit becoming a meme and/or getting a viral marketing and then successfull all the times
>>218916489i was going to say chanology was a mistake but this guy was probably deepthroating dicks and playing halo while that shit was going ongod i hate normalfags so much
>>218908578They can't fathom that anyone normal would easily prefer to have nothing. I prefer to starve than eating glass.Also anyone normal would be easily able to fill the void left in their life by this bad content with something else
>>218910600>The "you have to support it to get better things" is only really an argument for projects put out by indies who will use the earnings of their last project to hopefully better fund their next.This. You reward good content that fell short (for lack of funds or experience) under the premise that they are doing their best and will try to do even better if given a better opportunityYou DON'T reward people who want to take as much money as they can from you while giving you as less as possible. Those pieces of shit only exist because absolute retards encourage and defend that behavior
>>218910771>which is exactly what happened with all of themCan you name one franchise that isn't only supported by battered wives and people who would just watch anything?
>>218910858Even if that was true, it wouldn't be a valid replacement for the normal audience
>>218911375>mentality is it never leads to anything good being made, it only leads to studios and publishers coming to the realization of>>damn, these people really have no fucking standards, we can just keep making low-effort shit and they'll watch itYeah, but the actual sad part?This will breed a new generation of shiteaters willing to consume and rabidly defend the new shit. Not enough to have and healthy profit but enough to push them to try and try again. These shiteaters will also make impossible to have good things, because good things would be incompatible with their shit tastes
>>218911667No it's not. That's just a boring shit character.>Muh I need to relate.Fuck off mentally ill self inserter
>>218909151It was still a (slightly more palatale) version of the tired old mix of girlpower and "passing the torch." Honestly, what made Ghostbusters was the cast. It was a vehicle for watching a lovable group of misfits played by fun comedians. The premise alone, without them, is a lot like having someone other than Robin Williams play Mork.
>>218911954Thisvery well said
>>218912008>NO Ukek
>>218909151In what way that gay shit is made for the fans?
>>218907142they're just lashing out because they're out of a job. it'll pass
>>218912233>>218912301>>218912342I don't watch hollywood slop AND I don't watch AI slop, for the simple fact that I don't watch slop. FACT!!!
>>218909151If they bring the original team back for the third movie I'm gonna flip tables. We need an Extreme Ghostbusters movie now we have a partly younger cast.
>>218913820>star trek we know and love.They always say that shit, but they fucking hate the idea of actually going back to that
>>218918782>people who write it genuinely have writing talent
>>218909151This is literally the first time I heard about this kek wouldn't watch anyway series was done 20 years ago
>>218907142>mfw that faggot from Doctor Who says that for every fan they lose because of their rampant faggotry they'll gain 4 more because of the "inclusivity"
>>218909363Ghostbusters isn't even a franchise, it's just a good comedy movie that inadvertently had a weird cult built around it
>>218910264Are you fucked, dude? /tv/ has jannies that are ban happy psychos. Have you noticed the influx of pro-wrestling threads lately? THAT shithole is fucking unmoderated and everyone there is desperate for some semblance of order.
>>218922790>noticed the influx of pro-wrestling threads lately?No.
>>218922752This
>>218920659That's why TV shows shoot in Canada, because it's cheap. Also why productions moved to Atlanta, because California literally is way too expensive to film in anymore
>>218907832kys vatnigger
>>218908417There used to be a constant poster in /int/'s Brit general with a Dutch flag who spammed interracial cuck shit whenever he showed up. One time I got so annoyed with him I called him a "clog wog." Now any Dutch poster in that general gets called some variation of that term.I'm not even mega racist, I was just raging.
>>218907142>Chooses to make a food analogy>Why won't you eat this new food the restaurant is putting out?>It's not what I like and it just so happens that they've been out for so long they made frozen meals of the things I used to enjoy there so I'm gonna stick with that>BUT THIS IS FORCING THEM TO CLOSE DOWN THE RESTAURANTS!!>That sucks, but they chose a direction with the menu I don't like>THIS IS YOUR FAULT FOR NOT FORCING FOOD YOU DON'T LIKE DOWN YOUR THROAT!!! I LIKE THE NEW MENU!!>Well then, enjoy it while it lasts cause you're the only one who likes it
>>218910264You are objectively false.We have a janny who is a paid Star Trek shi
>>218909038You can make a Trek show that deals with the current issues of today, but in a fashion that doesn't make the characters all act like teenagers dropping quips every second sentence regardless of their actual age.
>>218910956>violent pedophilesYou could have simplified and just said that they were all JEWISH.Judaism is founded on ritualistic violent sex acts against children
>>218920551Hard to do sci-fi when you don't hire sci-fi writers.
>>218921701The thing is is that at the same time they assume that if they just espouse progressive talking points that people will just love the lip service so much they'll excuse dogshit writing......Sadly, they're correct, progressives do not give an iota of a fuck about anything but their own opinions being espoused, all this woke shit you see in Hollywood? One giant grift and they're succeeding at it, plus some useful idiots who are true believers
>>218909151This movie sucked. I'm actually surprised of all the good anon takes to Ghostbusters in the thread I'm not gonna respond to them all but you're all correct.
>>218907142>I would rather shovel shit down my throat today than risk eating a little less tomorrowTotally sane opinion.
>>218907142>with this show failing they most likely will NOT make anymore Star Trek TV for a long timeSo? I'd rather they make nothing than shit like this. Same with Star Wars and anything else.
This garbage got a second season?
>>218924895>dropping quips every second sentenceThis happened solely because of the popularity of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Joss Whedon wrote that way so now a bunch of writers copy his style but without any of the enthusiasm for what they're doing.Buffy poked fun at horror movie conventions and cliches because Joss had a fondness for campy horror of the 70s and the Universal MonstersThese people despise what they're working on and would rather make literal gay love stories
>>218907142>bUt NoW tHeY wOnT mAkE aNy MoRe StArTrEkThat's exactly what I want tho. Strange New Worlds was certifiably ass. And quite frankly I WANT them to just fucking stop raping the IP for a very long time. The only thing I'm learning from this shame campaign is that open bigotry works. I got what I want and the people I don't like are crying about it. I look forward to using this knowledge in the future
>>218925098It got a two-season order from the greenlight of production alone
>>218925106>This happened solely because of the popularity of Buffy the Vampire SlayerWhat? That show ended long before any of this and even then other media wasn't copying it. It became popular when Joss Whedon brought it back when he did Avengers and when it made billions at the box office then every fucking Marvel movie had to be like that because "quips = money" according to the suits and then every action movie had to be like that and now anything that has action in it must have quips because the suits believe THAT'S what the audience was coming back for.
>>218925464>That show ended long before any of thisYou severely underestimate how much of a cult of fags developed from it
>>218920551you need to be intelligent to write science fiction. picrel is LITERALLY(sic) the most compelling thing that nutrek writers could come up with to save their fucking job
>>218925568Yeah, but like I said no media was copying Whendon's style at that time because Buffy was a cult show and not mainstream. When Joss did Avengers and it made billions you suddenly started seeing everyone needed their own quip-fest movie with big action set pieces. I mean WB brought the guy in to rework Justice League and give it the Avengers treatment cause they wanted the same outcome.
I didn't read the thread but why does targeting the zoomer audience always mean filling the show or film with fags and uggo females? Is that really what young people want to watch?
>>218907142Oh fuck finally. ST has been raped long enough.
>>218909151this flopped mainly because of pandemic closures and getting kneecapped a dozen times in distribution, not because of fans. Also all the Ghost Busters fans are way too old to be interested in this gay tween drama BS. The only people clamoring for this were the /tv/ pedos who wanted to jerk off to Mckenna
>>218907142>make niche-market shit>get niche-market results>blame the maisntream market for not being interested.
>>218909151that was just a really unfocused "Thing" there is some weird modern issue about just bloating the main cast, but frozen empire had no idea what it wanted to be or what to do and the suicide stuff was odd
>>218925671Because they assumed zoomers are braindead leftists like millennials all are (partially true but also partially not)
>>218926030Millenials didn't grow up on leftist subversion or create the last decade of lame and gay stagnation
>>218926030What millennial targeted shows are full of fags and uggo females?
>>218909291If fans asked for anything it was Ghostbusters 3 with the original cast. And this ain't that.
>>218925895>weird modern issue about just bloating the main castI think the issue is that they can't just write one story that's good with a couple characters. They need to bring back the cast from the last movie, because that's what the audience expects. And they need to have new and interesting characters to keep things interesting. And they need to bring back the OG cast, because of fanbaiting. And already there are too many fucking people to care about, but then each of those main characters need supporting characters in the background to prop up the parts of the story that the writers are too untalented to keep within the already bloated cast. And we end up with 20 fucking people sitting around a table and having an "I don't like girls" party for the one faggot who thinks everyone needs to fucking care
>>218926134Fleabag, Killing Eve, Star Trek under Kurtzman
>>218907142Oh no! They're not going to make more shitty Star Trek TV shows no, don't do that
>>218922153more like 30
>>218907142Star Trek has drag queens now?
>>218924895>You can make a Trek show that deals with the current issues of today,No you can't, because today "problems" are made up shit based on a willing misunderstanding of nature, humanity and visible reality, and all the philosophy surrounding them is childish shit that nobody could translate into a serious script.
>>218907142>"If you don't like it, don't watch it :). Not everything is for you :).">"WTF why didn't you watch my show you fuckin chud?!"Every fuckin time. Same thing happened in comics almost a decade ago. >Kelly Sue DeConnick writes Captain Marvel, it's feminist sermonslop.>"if you don’t like my politics, don’t buy my book.”>I’m going to make the book that I’m going to make and if you don’t want to read them; don’t read them.”>Married to Matt Fraction btw, which has nothing to do with her writing gig at Marvel.You'll never guess what happened.
>>218924948>and they're succeeding at itDoesn't look like that at all
>>218926112Wrong, they grew up with the first stages of it but even then it didn't go fully into effect until Occupy Wall Street happened, and the powers that be weren't expecting people to do that
>>218908371>They really don't understand even basic economics, do they?They never have, and never will. It would require that they themselves have ever produced something of value and then tried to sell it on an open market.
>>218926322I've never heard of killing eve or fleabag before but they are both new shows and reading the synopsis of the shows they sound very vaginal and not something that would be made to target young millennials.
>>218926727>Occupy Wall Street happened,Why do you types pretend that was actually a thing?
>>218925577Meanwhile Star Trek WITH current writers>OH NO! A GAY BLACKSER!!!
>>218926707From a financial standpoint? No, they're failing miserably. But have they cultivated a tribalist band of freaks who'll defend any slop they put out because the shows say something they agree with? Yes.They've succeeded at the latter, the problem is the fags they're trying to get money from are champaign socialists who would rather pirate than pay money so they really did not think this through
>>218926680You're ironically being like the people when TOS first aired complaining about it being too progressive.
>>218926815fair enough
>>218907142It’s fucking stupid how they thought the brown pansexual zoomers who would be into Starfleet Academy would stay subscribed to Paramount+ to check out DS9 in between seasons. The streaming model is incompatible with Star Trek because Star Trek works best with high episode counts and self contained stories. Some of the best episodes in all Star Trek canon were made for almost no money and used stock sets and actors.
>>218926899no, I'm not. You on the other hand are pic related
>>218926899Make up people that never existed just to attack, typical.
>>218926771Because it was. You had the media actually talking about class issues instead of race issues which is something their owners don't want. It's why in 2012 corporations were suddenly all about supporting the LGBTQ and putting out pride parade floats to make the Left like them and stop talking about class issues.
>>218925577“Oh no! A laser thingy!” Is exactly how NuTrek characters talk though. They all act like middle schoolers and refuse to take anything seriously. It’s Marvel capeslop on a starship.
>>218925098Modern production usually just split the first season into 2 to save on cost and have something to announce and then just not pick up a "third" season it is very common for streaming garbage namely animated stuff, but still.
>>218908443If they’re getting paid to allow it, then it’s a violation of US law for the paid content to not be labeled as such.
>>218926930no one is pic related. youre a retard for even saving that to use as a gotcha moment
>>218926991This, you ever noticed that most second seasons on these streaming shows barely get a renewal announcement, just that they're in production?
>>218907142>Account based in United StatesSo weird...
>>218926815>so they really did not think this throughHas Hollywood ever done that part when it comes to retarded trends?
I have not paid for any game or movie for like 15 years or more and still they make things that i like..... how does that make any sense?
>>218927057It’s so the studio can negotiate the contracts with the cast and crew. Streaming math dictates that a show is only profitable for five seasons. If the first two are successful enough, the next three are secured. But no more than five, or else it gets too expensive.
>>218926930That shit all happened in the 1950's. What was a lie was it being the "American Dream" being sold back then. Prior to the 1950's, generational homes were very common thing and when the US had all this money from the war it invested it back into the country and a lot people got well paying jobs and a new consumer base to market towards. So that's where all the ads start coming from where you got a single family living in their own home with a car and all the various crap you can buy.>>218926946What? TOS faced loads of challenges. They had to sneak on the episode of Kirk and Uhura to be first interracial kiss on TV because the studio would not let them air it. A TV show on in the midst of the Vietnam War and Cold War talking about how bad war is and that cooperation is the better solution was a very progressive thing most people would scoff at back then. This would have been a great show to watch if you were a far left progressive back in the 60's.
>>218907227FPBP
>>218908218>NOOOOOOOO, YOU CAN’T JUST ATTACK THE #1 STATE SPONSOR OF TERRORISM AROUND THE WORLD, SLAUGHTERS ITS OWN CITIZENS, PROVIDES RESOURCES AND SUPPORT TO YOUR GREATEST ADVERSARIES, AND HAS BEEN ACTIVELY WORKING TO UNDERMINE AND DESTROY YOU FOR DECADES, OR THE JEWS WIN!Yeah, fuck off, brownoid. Also, a life tip: you only need one half-spritz of cologne when you go out, not half the fucking bottle.
>>218907142I would rather my favorite franchise to FUCKING DIE before seeing it being raped by these Hollywood retards. Let it never be any new media of it ever again. I'm in peace with that.
>>218927030Now you are angry because it's spot on>>218927223Woke didn't exist and you are retarded
>>218907142Don't care, still have all my dvd box sets of real trek
Good, take a 3-6 year break, go back to the drawing board while SNW runs its final two seasons If they wanna retcon Discovery as it's own continuity go for it, have "Year One" or the adventures of a new Kirk & Co.
>>218927458>I would rather my favorite franchise to FUCKING DIE before seeing it being raped by these Hollywood retards. Let it never be any new media of it ever again. I'm in peace with that.100% this
>>218927678You have no idea how much you are exactly like the people who opposed TOS back then.
>>218909229>how Catwoman brings up white privilege>those fucking white rich people>is a nepobabyYou don't hate these creatures enough.
>>218910071>Winston Zestymore
The most obnoxious Hollywood freaks could take my all time favourite franchise, whatever that is, and spend a trillion dollars making movies, tv shows, video games etc all bastardising it, distorting it, humiliating it, lying about it. I'd never care one bit. I wouldn't care if the whole world loved the new twisted freakshow version of my favourite franchise, and considered it "canon," and forgot the original version, or denied it existed, or said it was dogshit. I wouldn't stop loving my thing.I'd simply not engage with the new "improved" bullshit, and consider it all overblown fan fiction. In my mind they're not shitting on my beloved characters and stories and universe. They're just cosplaying with an absurd budget and doing it wrong.
>>218907227no you dont understand you have to listen to my reactionary propaganda im the number one baby show enjoyer!!!!!!!!!!!
>>218927725No, YOU have no idea how much incompatible with the real world your stupid perception of reality isNow go back to your basement if you aren't going to touch the proverbial grass
>>218927847This.Never letting gay an lame shit get in the way with what's objectively goodWoketards and shitlikers btfo
>>218927862
>>218928628This is the shit that killed Trek. That fucking dialogue.
>>218927862making shit for babies woke is unironically worse though.
>>218928695And wokeness, and ugliness, and not being Star Trek
>>218928628Really? “Grounding” propaganda? It’s bad enough that nu-Trek can barely manage science correctly, but then they throw on new age bullshit on top of that?
>buy/consume the thing tou dont like or want and maybe, potentially we will make something that you want/likeNo, LMAO
Entertainment is a zero sum game.Every dollar they spend making a show you hate is a dollar they can't spend making a show you might like.Also, even if you liked SNW (it was shit like all NuTrek) it was cancelled before SFA was cancelled.
>>218926971You all repeat that stupid bullshit and it is just that stupid bullshit.
>>218927223>the Vietnam War and Cold War talking about how bad war is and that cooperation is the better solution was a very progressive thing most people would scoff at back thenFuck your made up world view that leftists are against war.
>>218913992>Star Trek was always notable for doing a lot with lessStar Trek has always been one of the highest budget shows since TOS. What are you talking about?
>>218924508Atlanta was done as way to keep productions in the US and compete with California. Canada offered a lot and was essential to east coast productions that didn't want to look like the east coast. There's still a lot of filming done in california.
>>218922752It's got 5 movies and 180 episodes of a cartoon. Wtf does it take for you to consider something a franchise?
How many signatures does the renewal petition have now? Last I checked it was only at 4,100
>>218929425Toronto is basically used as a set for NYC
>>218929718”They should rename Toronto to Fake New York used for movies"
>>218929849Funny enough, part of Toronto is called York.
>>218911967TRVKE
>>218911967>SJWWhat’s that?
>>218907142>reddit won't happen if you don't let other reddit happenTruly I have lost.
>>218908371Its just californians acting entitled, like its the customers who owes them time and money. Silicon Valley and video game industry has a lot of these morons.
>>218930474I agree with you, but that picrel is a Norwegian.
>>218909971I hate how he portrays himself as some avant-garde genius actor when he's a shameless tool like the rest of them. Still cashed your paycheck for that slop you fucking auteur.
>>218907142We lost channels.Strange New Worlds would at least air on SyFy, if not SciFi with TNG and DS9.Academy would air on UPN, and everyone would know not to watch it, except the people that want that.
>>218930697Didn't Voyager also air reruns on SciFi Channel?What the hell even airs on Syfy these days anyways?
>>218931164Looks like movies and paid programminghttps://www.tvinsider.com/network/syfy/schedule/
I wish /tv/ would use AI to make a Star Trek episode. I'd watch that.
>>218931164They tried doing "Prestige" science fiction for a bit a few years ago, but the problem there is nobody equates prestige shows with sci-fi or horror or any other lowbrow genre
>>218909848/int/ has several twitter threads from every country every day.
>>218931504Sounds gay
>>218925671Zoomers are gay sissies.
>>218907142> Consoom product> Be excited for next product> Do not ask questions or complain> Everything you knew about this show is goneNope.
>>218921426You can get that stuff in porn. There's also rule 34.
>>218907142They should make the next Star Trek but the crew speak the same way their science fiction and super-hero fans speak: toxic and foul mouthed calling others the f-word or racial pejoratives or calling others using that r-word for the mentally handicapped.I guess sort of like that live action Teen Titans show they used to do a couple of years ago but refelcting their audience a lot more.
>>218932818Gen Z will start watching sex scenes as they get older. I'm a millennial and I didn't care about sex scenes until the end of middle school and starting high school. Much preferred actionable and adventure stuff at first.
>>218934774The oldest zoomers are 29, bro. The average age is 22.
>>218934454Have you seen porn actresses lately? It's absolutely grim.
>>218935487nta but I haven't fapped to real women in YEARS thanks to AI.
