>I've killed women and children. I've killed just about everything that walks or crawled at one time or another. And I'm here to kill you, Little Bill.The last 10 minutes of Unforgiven is some of the best and most quotable cinema of all time
>Who's the fellow owns this shit hole?
>>218925043It would take centuries to kill one of each of the 8 million currently known species on the planet, not accounting for the millions of unknown creatures. Even generously taking his "just about" into account and calling it 7 million instead of 8 is absurd when you factor in travel time and locating rare species in inhospitable and remote locations. Furthermore who would fund such an endeavor?
>>2189253192/10
>>218925043The last 10 minutes only work as they do because the whole movie builds up to that. A lost art, building up dramatic tension and achieving a meaningful storytelling climax. At least for Hollywood.
>>218925043>quotable cinema
>>218925516idgi
>>218925450the whole movie is building to that moment. Bill didn't want to do anymore killing, drinking, etc. He just wanted to get the bounty and go back to his life But after they killed Ned it was over. He took a sip of that whiskey and you just knew he was gonna turn into the Grim Reaper and kill them all
>>218925319>There are millions of unknown creaturesHow do you know if they're unknown
>>218925043Overrated le badass boomer flick.Funny though how Clint was already playing an old man in the 90s and he's still doing it.
>>218925933He was in his 60s back then. He's almost 100 now I hope Clint lives forever. It's good knowing he's still out there
>>218925319Thanks chatgpt
>>218925933The movie is about rejecting old Western cowboy boomerism.
>99 year old is the ultimate badasswhere did this shit even come from. All boomers are extreme cowards in real life
>>218926116Good thing Clint isn't a boomer.
>>218926071So? He's still le epic boomer badass fantasy.
>>218925319Do we really know howbold he is? He could be like 300. Checkmate
>>218926226Missed the whole fucking point but still keeps talking.
>>218926226Ah, so you didn't watch it. Cool
>>218926128Clint isn't a boomer. He's silent generation. The group between Greatest Generation and Baby Boomers. The Silent Generation that was too young to fight in WWII and gave birth to most Baby Boomers Greatest Generation is basically all dead, those who are still alive are 100
>>218926359>>218926384Morons
>>218925450Hollywood is run by coked up Jewish nepo babies who think everyone is like them and has no attention span or empathy.
>>218926443You're the one who didnt understand the film but keep talking about it.
>>218926548I understood the film, you just don't have any reading comprehension because you're a dumb retard
>>218926564Oh the poor little baby is upset
Xhe didnt understand the film.
>>2189253198/10 I only realized because I saw this post>>218925430
>"I'll see you hell. William Munny!"*pauses to reload*>"Yeah" One of my favorite lines
>>218925043This is probably one of the best modern love story I've ever encountered. Despite Claudia only ever being mentioned, the impact her love had on the world around her (even after her death) affected MULTIPLE lives pretty heavily. I like that you underage the value of her love by it's absence, not it's presence. I wonder if I'll feel that way about my mother's maternal love once I leave her to venture out.
>>218926359people keep regurgitating this shit, its still wrong. whatever the intentions were, the film still portrays a tired, naive power fantasy where the retired badass is forced back into his violent ways by some act of cruelty against someone close to him. its just john wick but pretends at the same time to be a deconstruction. if it was serious about that, clint should not have been successful in his revenge. little bill or one of his henchmen should have randomly gotten the drop on him just like what happens to english bob
>>218926787Good postI guess I never really thought about the dead wife's role in all this other than her being the one he changed for The film is pretty explicit about "no one knows why she married this man of notoriously vicious and intemperate disposition"
>>218926787ah yes "tell dont show", truly the mark of exceptional filmmaking
>>218926981i guess you need your Netflix sloppa to spoonfeed you what you're supposed to feel and think over and over because you'll be on your phone the first 3 times they tell you
>>218926954Not everybody is the same. Therefore not everybody has the same interactions available. Some people might only know a person as bring frigid and ruthless, and others will only ever know of them as being kind and considerate. Perhaps all the most violent people in this world could be changed if they met a particular person. It might not even be someone opposite. Humans fail to understand they are a gestalt phenomenon, composed of trillions of microbes. There's no telling what will emerge when two or more of these Hypercolonies meeting. Think of it like two cultures meeting.
>>218926981It's really just harsh segregation. That's what will stop retards like you, whatever the fuck you're like, from ruining society
>>218927089Yikes
>>218926417>Greatest GenerationReminder that they called themselves that. Maybe the greatest at sucking jewish cock
>>218927658You probably thought you were so funny with this one
>>218927658You're a retard anon, it's okay. Not everyone can be intelligent The term came from Tom Brokaw the author who wrote a book about the lives of people who grew up during the Great Depression and then went on to fight in WWII. From there the name stuck when referring to people from that generation
>>218925319Anything that walks or crawls without me killing it, does so without my consent.
>>218925043I like the samurai version with Ken Watanabe better.
>>218928706I heard it was really good I think I'll check it out next
>>218925043Literally just coolslop. You only like it cause it's cool and masculine.
>>218928805And that's wrong because??? You sound like some college professor roastie raging against anything male
>>218925319"walks or crawled" already excludes a lot of species, and he obviously talks about the places where he lived, which seems to be between Missouri and the Great Plains, an area not known for its extraordinary biodiversity, we're talking about a thousand species at best.
>>218928854Ok, you're a moron. I'll try to make anon's joke more evident.>It's goodslop. You only like it because its a good movie with deep themes and strong writing, acting and directing.
>>218926359If you retards believe that a war movie is always propaganda, then you can't say that anon is wrong either. Pick one, you elitist moron.
>>218928895>good thing bad because...uh... BECAUSE IT IS!
>>218926810Didnt get it.
>>218926732Same. The flat way he says “yeah”, like it’s all just routine, tiresome bullshit to him was very effective.
So Unforgiven is basically what someone like The Man With No Name ends up like when he's old
Good movie just saw it recently
>>218927924>Tom Brokaw>journalist for NBCSounds like a good goy to me!
>>218927924Had no idea it was tom brokaw that coined the term or that he wrote a book.
Munny's part of the story is the least interesting. The movie would have been incredibly dull without Little Bill and English Bob.
>>218934730You are completely mindbroken
>>218934909English Bob basically did nothing but talk shit and get hitAlthough his plot helped drive home the idea that most of these "gunslingers" were more myth than anything
>>218925043>I've killed women and childrenDamn what a badass
The final scene of Hell or High Water is just as good, maybe better. Chris Pine and Jeff Bridges are outstanding. It doesn't have the final showdown between the two, but hints at it happening later.
>>218935507just the average boomer really
>>218935405His biographer was really good in this. The only thing I remember him from was as "The Collector" in ST:TNG who kidnaps Data. He was great in both roles.
>>218935507He wasn't bragging
>>218925516I got big into westerns and actually read the script for this before I watched it. Them little cuts on her face do not sell what it was supposed to look like. She's supposed to look ghoulish like Jonah Hex like nobody would ever touch her again.
>>218925319This is great anon and i appreciate your pedantry however he does qualify his statement with "just about everything"
>>218935612In fact, I thought she was adorable.
>>218928922But did they ever claim that or is this some strawman fantasy
>>218935612The fact that it wasnt as bad as they heard was part of the story. People aggrandize events to get riled up and attack others. That's why funny was shocked she was the girl injured.
>>218935569He is the colleague of nicCage in the family man.
>>218925516>They're all dead, my whole band! What right you got to twenty when I only killed one man!>You gunned my brother down and that price can't be matched.
>>218935612You missed the entire point. Her injuries were highly sensationalized. The Schofield Kid said her ears got chopped off and her tits and everything. It had to be enough make Will come out of "retirement" and collect one last bounty There was no way Will or anything could have known it wasn't as bad as thought
>>218935678I covered the "just about" statement in my comment
>>218936091in what context do you get to quote that
>>218939037I can't find it anywhere
>>218925319>It would take centuries to kill one of each of the 8 million currently known species on the planet, not accounting for the millions of unknown creatures. Even generously taking his "just about" into account and calling it 7 million instead of 8 is absurd when you factor in travel time and locating rare species in inhospitable and remote locations. Furthermore who would fund such an endeavor?
>>218939037>>218942135Yeah, it some other bullshit. Its not from the movie but I havent seen it in years.
>>218935569He's the Hollywood producer in True Romance>I TREATED YOU LIKE A SON. YOU STABBED ME IN THE HEART, FUCK YOU
>>218925319Where in the movie does it say that he isn't a centuries old species killer and has only recently changed career?
>>218926071which is why it's gay
>>218925319You clearly didn’t watch the extended cut, where a flashback shows a younger Munny shooting a Greater Yellowlegs, taking out his birdwatcher’s guide, crossing it off, and then zeroing in on a Lesser Yellowlegs. Even with the extended cut, they still didn’t think showing a full explanation of how he got around to killing one of every animal like a mad version Noah who was only half as productive was a good use of their screentime. But I think it implies enough that we can work out how he did it.
>>218925319He's still doing it
>>218950426>That's right. I've killed women and children. I've killed just about everything that walks or crawled at one time or another. Even times far beyond your comprehension. Them new skeletons that Cope fellah is digging up? Well, they’re not really new, see? They’re actually rather old. Because I killed them, long ago. Before things got real chilly for a while there. Some of them lizards were awful big. Same as those furry elephants that came later. I tell you what, I had to use a bigger caliber on ‘em than I would need for you or any of your boys here, Little Bill. And I am here to kill you, Little Bill, for what you did to Ned. Taking his life yourself. He was on my list Little Bill. You done robbed me and now you’re gonna die. I don’t know why anyone’s debating this. Munny is clearly meant to be the angel of death. I found this scene bone chilling the first time I watched it. I understood what he was immediately.
>>218926017You're braindead
>>218926116>>218926226This is such a retarded take. Do you think nobody ever killed nobody before current generation? Do you think nobody was a fighter before current generation? I'm not saying a 60 year old could beat the 20 year old version of himself but William Munny was the best, most cold blooded killer in his youth. Even as an old guy he'd still be more than a match for the average cowpoke, especially when we're talking about shooting people rather than physical fighting. Take this example of an old pro boxer vs "average young guy" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSveUJtkg4c
>>218926810The difference is english bob was a fake, his reputation greatly exaggerated. On the other hand Munny really was everything that was said about him.
>>218925043Based Clint taking out nigger Caillou
>>218953736what?
>>218936876 No one's saying Will had perfect info, the point is that it *didn’t matter* whether it was as bad as the Kid described. The exaggeration is the whole mechanism that sets the plot in motion. The whores needed a mythic atrocity to justify hiring a mythic killer. Munny doesn’t ride out because he’s carefully verified medical reports, he rides out because he’s broke, sick of being a failed farmer, and tempted to step back into the legend people built around him.The reality being smaller than the rumor is exactly what the movie’s poking at. Violence becomes this inflated story everyone tells themselves to make it clean and righteous. Then when it actually happens it’s ugly, pathetic, and not cinematic at all. That’s why the reveal hits - not because Will was “wrong,” but because the whole revenge narrative is built on bullshit from the start.
>deserve's got nothin' to do with it
>>218956677One of the coldest lines in any film ever
>>218926810>little bill or one of his henchmen should have randomly gotten the drop on him just like what happens to english bob
I've actually encountered an "English Bob" irl. Ramdom british tourist in a dive bar in rural bumfuck USA and he's loudly bitching about how nobody should be allowed to own guns. Literally everyone had at least one gun in their vehicle in the parking lot.
We wish we were any of the real characters, but in the end, we're all this guy
>>218927658That'd be the Boomers, the GG were cartoonishly racist and had to be begged by the government to stop collecting human skulls to send to their girlfriends in the Pacific. The Holocaust had to be invented after the war because if they had actually told the guys who fought in it that they went through all of that to help Stalin take half of Europe, they would've besieged washington and hanged every member of Congress from the same streetlamp.
>>218926810>the retired badass is forced back into his violent ways by some act of crueltyIt works as a deconstruction because a normal, mature person realizes by the end that Little Bill is the flawed badass and our hero is not a good person. You are immature and dumb if you don't realize this.
>>218925319He could be a extremely wealthy and he pays hundreds of workers to scour the globe and bring him animals to shootHe sits on his porch, some dude rides up on his horse thats dragging a cage, he opens it up, out crawls a tazmanian devil and Munny immediately blows its brains out
>>218925319>currently known species on the planetSo you need to exclude birds, snakes, fish, aquatic mammals, etc.
>>218925450I skipped to the ending, and I thought the movie was shit.
>>218925043>this threadI don't deserve this...
The best western made since the early 60s when it was released, and no better western had been made since.
>>218961239>picHaha pretend I'm retarded (I'm not seriously though) and tell me what the two movies on the left are from. Like as a joke.
>>218925043The duck of death?
>>218930081That's exactly what it is. Clint himself even stated that Unforgiven was basically his sendoff to that character and was meant to be his exit from westerns.
>>218962503I don't know either
>>218962503>>218962697Paint your wagon and million dollar baby
>>218962760Thank you, famalam.
>>218925319Based
>>218927066Pseud.
>>218962401Coen Brothers' True Grit is at least as good as The Unforgiven.
>>218925933
>>218963888Not saying they aren't stupid but I do kinda feel bad for them, they basically spent all of highschool in lockdown
>>218962760thx homie
>>218925766>a sipnigger, he just about drank half the bottle the second he heard ned diedit was over, his whole demeanor changed
>>2189253191/10 AI generated copy/paste slop
>>218925516>you're not ugly like I amI forget the exact line but I like that he said that to her
>>218957243When he refused to shoot Little Bill I don't know what it shows more, how much of a coward he is or how scary Little Bill is.
>>218935612They did it in Mortal Engines too>here's the extremely disfigured chick you've heard about
>>218968372shoot ... a little Bondo and she's ready to roll.
>>218928572Kek
>>218962401I'm going through a big western phase right now watching a ton and I agree with this No Country for Old Men is good too but it's probably not considered a pure western
>>218968175Well the gun was missing a round so he would’ve been fucked anyway
>>218925043William Munny:>I've killed women and children. I've killed just about everything that walks or crawled at one time or another. And I'm here to kill you, Little Bill."Little Bill responds:>"It would take centuries to kill one of each of the 8 million currently known species on the planet, not accounting for the millions of unknown creatures. Even generously taking his "just about" into account and calling it 7 million instead of 8 is absurd when you factor in travel time and locating rare species in inhospitable and remote locations. Furthermore who would fund such an endeavor?"Roll Credits
>>218925319This is exactly what George RR Martin said to me after I showed him the film for the first time
>>218969095Yeah? I blow a hole in your face and then I go in the house... and I sleep like a baby. You can count on that. We used to stack fucks like you five feet high in Korea... use ya for sandbags.
>>218969168But I'm from Cambodia.
>>218965357>>218928859>and he obviously talks about the places where he livedim sorry can you timestamp where exactly he says this? Because I didn't hear him say this
>>218925043>I've killed women and childrenAnd we're supposed to look up to this guy..
>>218957243you calling me a jew?
>>218969960You're not. That's the point. He wasn't bragging. He was telling Little Bill he has no problem killing anyone
>>218962401I call your unforgiven and raise you Tombstone
>>218968835Give her the old ford tempo treatment
>>218927924>grew up during the Great Depression and then went on to fight in WWIIYeah and the reward the men got while they were away fighting was their wives, out of loneliness, were out drinking, dancing and fucking the black men that they worked alongside in a factory. Or impregnated by some coward ner-do-well dandy in town.
>>218970271okay anon, we get it. you hate jews or whatever. shut the fuck up already. no one cares
>>218969960Is this the same idiot in the thread who didnt understand the film from 2d ago?
>>218963121I agree
>>218970332jews got nuthin to do with it
@218970470No one cares
>>218963121I can't stand Hailee Steinfeld so I shan't be watching this one
>>218970582your loss, she almost won an academy award and for good reason
>>218971178She just rubs me the wrong way. Every thing I've watched with her she's always my least favorite part
>>218971211shes a child in this I don't know what you've seen her in I've never seen her in anything but this, I heard she became a musician or something
>>218971261She was annoying in Pitch Perfect and that's enough for me
>>218971493>Pitch PerfectI have no idea what that is give me a sec>Pitch Perfect is a 2012 American musical comedy film wtf? why would anyone subject themselves to what ever the fuck that is, holy shit yea someone who would watch something like that doesn't deserve to watch true grit, jesus fucking christ
>>218971493are you a 15 yr old girl?
>>218953499He was even worse than people remember. There's this line when Ned tells him, "the kid said you killed 8 men, but weren't they 9?" And William answers "I don't remember"
The movie takes place in Wyoming. Any Wyoming anons here? What's that state like? Asking as an Irish person, we don't have that type of scenery/geography/meteorology here.
>>218973307>Asking as an Irish personMy condolences.
>>218973349It could be worse.He could be black or slavic.
>>218926226I’m gonna boomer my foot in your ass shut up kid.
>>218925043>"Innocent? Innocent of what?!"
>>218970271What’s hilarious about comments like these is that women back then were tougher and had far greater hardships than the betas who write the comments. These faggots wouldn’t last a day in the woman’s role during the 40’s and the fact that they think they could fill the man’s role; that’s beyond batshit insane. It’s an entire group of men who can’t achieve and so they b on a m e everyone around them. They lament not being born during another era but they would have perished from weakness during those eras, even in the easiest role.
>>218925516>How am I gonna get a scar like that eating pussy? This was when I was a kid, you know? You should see the other kid. You can't recognize him.
>>218926116You have somewhat of a point as far as the movie goes but you go fucking with the wrong boomer and you’re going to have a bad time. Many are armed, fought in Vietnam, and are old and craggy and just don’t give a fuck. They can’t obviously beat you in a fist fight but they can shoot your ass and will and they don’t know quit. I think you’re confusing greed with laziness and apathy/weakness.
>>218926116Remember that most news stories of some neighbor shooting their other neighbor over lawn clippings or trash cans or whatever else is almost exclusively done by boomers They're all trigger happy retards whose wet dream is to murder someone and get away with it
>I'll be sure to bring your share>it's full of shitgoddamn I am watching it right now, it is so fucking good
>>218926071zoomers are so fucking stupid. gay little bitches who probably watch 4 different eceleb video essays on every movie before thy even watch it.
>>218926787Claudia was just like the modern whore getting moist for the bad boy. He’s a murderous piece of shit who should have been put down and his eagerness to assassinate and murder proves it. Only good ending would’ve seen Clint’s character and his monstrous children hanging from a noose.
>>218979070what is wrong with you?
>>218971798Aren't we all at heart?
>>218979788NO
>>218979133I have morals. A wicked person isn’t redeemed simply because he says so. He must pay penance for his sins. Since he took so much pride in having killed woman and children, maybe that should mean seeing his horrific offspring executed. Anything is better than nothing. But he was nothing.
>>218962401The Assassination of Jesse James
Zoomer newfaggots have polluted this board.
>>218982074Yea
>>218925043Unforgiven is good but picrel did the same but better.It's a tragicomedy. Hill and Fonda give the best performances of their lives. Music by Ennio Macaroni.Pls watch my movie so we can talk about it.
>>218957243He plays such a good rat scumbag. Same character in star trek TNG
>>218985478It's free on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YviCwlG6yNg
>>218971798for the right price absolutely
Boomer cowboy fantasies are embarrassing self indulgent tripe
>>218925319
>>218985478Okay anon you convinced me
>>218987172He's got the classic Jewish rat phenotype so he pulls it off easily
>>218989622Now say it again without crying
>>218925043safe edgy garbage
>>218992924Boomer cowboy fantasies are embarrassing self indulgent tripe, but still entertaining movies
>>218992957It's not safe at all
>>218973307Open country as far as the eye can see. Cold snowy winters. Also windy.
>>218926810Pure Reddit
>>218935510That movie is overrated shit. Boring. And they ripped off small town banks. How about get a job, you White trash cunts?
>>218963121ahahahahahahaha
>>218993301Enjoy Black Panther and Sinners, cucky
>>218970582>>218971178This, her and Bridges are great & you get to see how shit an actor Matt Damon is in comparison
>>218962401for me, it's Dead Man
>>218925516>cut off her teets>cut up her face
>>218962401The Wild Bunch
>>219001024Dead Man is one of my favorite films of all time and probably my favorite Johnny Depp film ever
>>219001431*guitar riff*
>>218935569He's in tons of shit, he's the go to character actor for nebbish doctor/lawyer or heartless business guy, or creepy 'nice guy.'
>>218935612>actually read the script for this before I watched itDo people actually do this?
>>219002147He's lying
>Now you just shot an unarmed man!>Well he better arm himself, if he's gonna decorate his saloon with my friend
>>219002147Not him but the script was kicking around Hollywood for decades
>>218985478I kept waiting for the batman to show up the first time I recognized Jake. It played in mexico all the time and I never knew it was italian. I could tell there was something odd about their speech but I couldnt quite put a finger on what. I was amazed when by each and every scene. The bird fable is a classic. Martin sheen told a version on conan 2 decades ago.
>>219002872*fatman
>>218925043the last great western
>>219002147I do.t. screenwriter.
>>218992957>safe edgyExplain
>>218925043I've honked women and children. I've honked just about everything that walks or clown car-ed at one time or another. And I'm here to honk you, Little Bill.
>>219008013He's just being a retard
>>219010199Lol
>>218925319Not really. A few nuclear bombs could easily clear off like 99% of the list. And he's killed JUST ABOUT everything, not "literally" everything. So it's not implausible.
>>219011387see >>218937780are you implying that in universe he has set off nuclear bombs in multiple continents? I don't buy it, unfortunately.
>>219011426>P-PLEASE SEE MY POST!!nah i wontyou lost
>>218925319based wonderer
>>218925319Make sure you hide this reddit post. The dude has been samefagging it for 2 days straight
how the fuck a thread on /tv/ 2 days oldthis ain't /lit/
>>218925043>I AM…. LE ACTING
>>219012720Clint never does that over acting stuff. He's very monotone and flat usually
>>219012389Last week we had a 5 days old thread
>>218968175What would have he gained if he killed Little Bill?
>>218926810cringe
>>218928859In the sequel he uses the proceeds of his successful dry goods business to fund his murder of previously unknown to him walking and crawling fauna of the Bay area.
>>218935405There weren't many of them, Billy the Kid and Hickock were the really only ones and they became myths.
>>218968175He didn't shoot him because he wasn't a killer. Dude literally pisses himself in the movie when he sees violence firsthand.
>>218973307lots of sage brush and wind, the mountains are 10/10.
>>219012389that one anon keeps coming back every hour to samefag his stupid reddit post and it keeps bumping the thread
>>219013031Freedom. He'd have snuck out and left
>>219013031at that point in the story he would have gained his and English Bob's escape.
>>219013031>What would have he gained if he killed Little Bill?The key to the cell, the ability to sneak out the prison, get his pistols back and either shoot up the town or get away
>>218969989you got a foreskin?
>>219013431He was a writer not a criminal. The townsfolk would have at him or put a bounty on his head. Even english Bob was in his right to carry a gun. Not very pro-2nd amendment to give up your guns when entering a town.
>>218998435>>219013198Apart from getting used to the snowy winters (which we don't get here) that sounds really nice. Nothing but nature as far as the eye can see.
>>218973307Half of Wyoming is flat and empty and there's nothing there was far as the eye can see. The other half is some of the most beautiful mountains and nature on the entire planet Remember Yellowstone is partly in Wyoming If I was rich I'd go to Wyoming and own a ranch
>>218925319Are we talking about the holohoax?
>>218925043I always felt this movie ended too soon. I would have liked another half hour of clint going apeshit
>>219015869Where else could it have gone? He killed everyone. Had his moment with Little Bill and avenged Ned Might have been nice to have some wrap up with him and his kids after getting the money, but I liked the way it ended with the whole "supposedly he made it rich in dry goods" thing.
>>219015982The movie spends so long building up how mean and evil munny was then blows it's load in like 5 minutes. Come on man. That's just a little sip and I'm thirsty.
