>>219051516
I thought you were talking about murderman at first

Pretty sure he died from cringe
I mean the plan was to wipe out a planet of aliens because.. you're jealous that they don't have superpowers and you do? What?

>>219051516
Cover his eyes. Fly off with him. Don't be a retarded family, that stands there for no reason and waits to get cut with laser eyes. Problem with this movie is, there are always so many more better options for what to do, and all the characters always pick the dumbest, for maximum edge.

>>219051516
I have a better question. This space hitler just learned, that being on Earth gives him super powers, and its atmospher is big part of it. So he decides... to terraform the planet, and get rid of super power giving atmospher. Why is he so retarded?

>>219051516
>Indian boy still hung up on this stupid shit
That situation was fabricated, a writer wrote it that way. You're obsessed with a problem that isn't real, garbage boy.

>>219051516
Tell that to Zod's snapped neck

>>219051670
He's been programmed since before birth to protect Krypton. So he's bound by everything in him to create a new Krypton to create. How did you miss that? It's the core of the main subtext of the film, Clark is Superman because he chooses, Zod isn't because he doesn't. It's Heidegger 102.

>>219051767
You're retarded
With superpowers, it took one superpowered guy committed to stopping him to kill his ass
It would have been complete chaos trying to be the military ruler of a revived race of superhumans when any random one of them could outrun the bullets of your most advanced military weapons and crumple your most heavily armored sci-fi supertanks like a tin can

>>219051813
Zod seemed to be pretty happy with his power up.

>level a whole city. Killing millions
*cricket noise*
>maser beam some random family
"Nooo. That's too far"

This film is so stupid

>>219051871
Do you think Superman could take Zod out of the city?

>>219051516
I call it Passive Christian Syndrome. The mistaken belief that just killing has no place (except with the state) in a society built on Christian values. This is a psy-op intended to make Christians passive and permissive of sin and is a work of the devil. Christians are meant to draw a distinction between neighbor and invader, keeping their neighbor safe from the invader who wishes to subjugate or exploit them. This is loving your neighbor as commanded. It's not possible to love your neighbor by pretending everyone is your neighbor and don't have conflicting interests they're willing to hurt one another over. That's a false teaching and sits at the core of Passive Christian syndrome.

>>219051549
>REAL SUPERMAN WOULD ALLOW A FAMILY TO BE KILLED

>>219051871
>>level a whole city. Killing millions
And then he makes out with Lois (whom he knew for like 5 hours?) on top of this mass grave he just created, like it's some triumphant moment.

>>219051789
Legitimately probably the worst line of dialogue I've ever seen be seriously written down. Leagues of magnitude worse than "Somehow Palpatine returned".
But thank god for the hilarity it spawned.

>>219051744
>Cover his eyes. Fly off with him
OK, then what? There's a lot of things he could have done, but all of them are just steps on a logical path that leads to "snap Zod's neck". Zod can't be reasoned with, he can't be calmed down, there's no way to imprison him since they just used the only field generator thing to send the other guys to the phantom zone. Every minute that passes he's getting stronger, at some point he'll be as strong as Clark but with actual combat training, and presumably some genetic perks for that since he was designed for it, at which point humanity is doomed.

>>219051516
It's only ok when Gunn turned Superman parents into evil conquerors.

>>219051871
>>219051947
The "whole city" was never leveled and he didn't "kill millions". You guys should try watching the movie before talking about it.

>Superman killing a genocidal zod who admitted he would never stop murdering is bad because Superman isn't allowed to kill people
>Superman setting Hawkgirl on the leader of an autonomous state and subsequently murdering him as he screams for his life is good and heckin wholesome because Superman didn't bloody his own hands
Glad we got that sorted

>>219052045
The exact number doesn't matter. He still made out with Lois in a gianormous crater.

>>219052067
sometimes when you kiss a girl, it's nice. It's nice to kiss a girl, even in a big crater.

>>219051913
>And it just so happens that everyone I dislike, or who disagrees with me, is an invader so it's not un-christian of me to demand their deaths and hate them
How very convenient

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>>219051986
Superman was supposed to keep fighting until Zod gets boring and fly away from the planet.

>>219052067
So? I would have fucked her
You sounds exttremely gay and very weak of handshake

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>>219052067
>real Superman would have saved the debris

>>219052065
REAL SUPERMAN WOULD'VE TORTURED ZOD WITH A CACTUS

>>219052067
>No no, Lois, back up. Think of the optics.

>SnyderCucks still believe they will get SnyderVerse back

>>219052094
>has to invent a strawman to get angry at
Have fun beating up that argument, anon. I'll be over here, standing by the actual point I made when you're done.

>>219051516
Shitlibbery

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>>219052229
which one of these is you?

>>219052243
>too dumb to understand that he's created a no true scotsman fallacy to justify his unchristian feelings towards his fellow man
lel

>>219052263
The one who has perfect DCU franchise in the works now, rather than whine for the past decade how their SnyderVerse is comming back, any time now. BTW, how's Rebel Moon 3? Still canceled?

>falling for imperialist propaganda

>>219052094
>You shall know them by their fruits.
You:
>REEEEE NO, YOU CAN'T JUST JUDGE PEOPLE BY WHAT THEY DO! YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT MY SUBJECTIVE BULLSHIT THAT NOTHING CAN REALLY BE KNOWN!
Sure thing, Satan. Let me know when it's Christians shooting people at college debate events.

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>>219051516
Shame how Superman media underutilize Zod.
That Recent My Adventures with Superman show was a perfect opportunity for a hammy Joffey Baratheon like Villan.

>>219052287
That's not what no true scotsman is, redditor. You retards really thing logical fallacies are silver bullets that win you arguments immediately, so you desperately search for them in every conversation. You're retarded.

>Guys, I heard Netflix is buying WB, and rumors say the LOVE Snyder and snyderverse, and want to bring it back! Hm? Paramount outbid Netflix? OMG, THATS CRAZY, but Paramount execs say the exact same thing!

>>219051516
Superman doesn't have a no kill rule, he kills doomsday every time that spiky retard shows up.

>>219052100
Kek

>>219051986
Not to mention that by that point, Zod could no longer recreate Krypton. With the World Engine and his ship destroyed, he was completely devoid of purpose, devoid of what he considered to be his soul. He wanted only one thing - to die a warrior’s death, and he knew the only man who could give him one was Kal. Killing humans was his way of forcing Kal’s hand.

One question that I’ve always had was whether Zod’s imperative was truly genetic or if he simply believed it to be. Personally, I’ve always thought he was just a “believer,” a fanatic, because we saw courtesy of Jor and Lara that it was possible for Kryptonians to defy their “programming.” Zod even has a name for doing so, and it’s interesting that he would call it heresy. My personal take is that Kryptonian society had surrendered themselves to their own technology, that they’d come to worship it as enshrined in their Ai-driven population control and caste system. Under it, every Kryptonian knows their role in their society.

>>219051516
>What is this mind virus called
It's just marxism, where stopping a mass murderer is worse than mass murder

>>219051516
Don't choke to hard on Snyders cock.

>>219052094
muslim levels of convenience

>>219052358
Why didn't Jesusrino stop the bullet?

>>219051516
Killing the last remaining member of your race is kind of fucked up desu.

Yeah it had to be done but it's still fucked up.

>>219057009
Just poke both of his eyes until he's stops

>>219051516
depends on who he wants to kill

>>219051516
>The capeslop audience are wodditors
>Wodditors are not known to be noble
There you go OP

Superman had to kill him because, as many have said already in this thread, he couldn't control Zod and imprison him. And the city destruction was difficult to stop too because Zod could just return to the city each time.

Now I'm remembering a part where Superman tries to take Zod out of the city to minimize the damage in the city and lost of innocent lives but I don't know if it is from the old movie or this one.

>>219057320
This was in Superman II. In MoS, he never even thought about it.

>>219057320
>Now I'm remembering a part where Superman tries to take Zod out of the city to minimize the damage in the city and lost of innocent lives but I don't know if it is from the old movie or this one.
Definitely not Man of Steel.

>>219057375
They should have put a part where he tries that but he can't do it. But I still think it's difficult to do it.

In Superman II, was he able to take Zod out of the city?

>>219056886
Free will.
Why don't you understand how God works if you're going to be a disingenuous faggot? It'd be a refreshing change of pace to be asked an original question.

>>219057510
Yup. He took the fight to the Fortress of Solitude and was able to depower Zod, Non, and Ursa.

>>219051767
he was bred to protect and restore Krypton. Probably above his paygrade to think about this

>>219057647
OK now I remember. And how did he do it? Just flew there and Zod followed him?

>>219051516
It's subtle brainwashing to convince you to never rise up and take down your politicians.

>>219051986
>sets Superman up to have to kill in the first movie
>removes his air of invulnerability and killing off his Clark Kent identity in the next one
>plans to have hm cucked by Batman and turned evil in the next
>all supported on the back-end by Kents who tell him things like he should let people die and that he owes people of Earth nothing
Look, Snyder's not an awful director, but he sure as shit has no idea what most longtime Superman fans like or want from the character.

>>219057736
Yup. The three Kryptonians all followed him with Luthor and Lois in tow.

>>219057588
The "unoriginal" question will continue to be asked until christcucks produce a non-cope, above median IQ answer.

>>219058050
>above median IQ answer.
We provide that. You're unable to understand it. Wonder what that says about you.

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>ITT literally exhibit A of how gunn Superman was memoryholed as if it never existed because everyone knows who the real Superman is.

>>219058158
>who the real Superman is.
>raceswaps
>troons
>girlbosses
Thank you for input Rasheesh.

>>219051786
>That situation was fabricated, a writer wrote it that way.
This goes both ways.
>>219051767
Because he's retarded. Of the three, saiyans, kryptonians, and viltrumites, kryptonians are the dumbest. By far.

I always figured that maybe Kryptonians were severely allergic to the yellow sun rays and needed genetic modification to not die horribly. I should watch this movie to find out if thats the case here, but otherwise, it makes no fucking sense for Kryptonians to be in danger of extinction if they can just move to a yellow sun system and be just fucking fine.

>>219057836
>>sets Superman up to have to kill
as he always should for world ending caliber opponents. every fucking time.
>but but Darkseid is precious to teh universe, WAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH
fuck off.

>>219051516
of course the Snyderjeet doesn't get it

>>219051516
I'm gonna be sincere for a moment and say that this moment actually works really well. Zod and crew were the only living connection Supe's had to his family on Krypton, and having seen his Earth father die earlier in the movie, he's essentially orphaning himself again by killing him. Not to mention the obvious savior complex he has, it makes a lot of sense and is not the moment the Snyderverse should be critisized for.

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>>219051516

>>219059675
Lets be real here, until it was confirmed to be abnormally dangerous, there would be volunteers lining up around the entire fucking city.

And if it was never confirmed to be abnormally dangerous, Supes would thousands of kids a year.

When this came out and Marvel vs. DC fighting was at it's all-time worst, the pro-Marvel side genuinely thought it made them look good when they went
>ugh NOW look at the NYC invasion in Avengers!!! only a little bit of destruction and no one was executed!!!! OUR HEROES DON'T KIIIIILLLLLLLL AAAAAAAAAA

This felt like a repack of another prior gay argument circa Dark of the Moon, where people determined it was Nazi because shit was destroyed and Optimus killed Sentinel, instead of letting him apologize, which ALSO felt like deja vu from Law Abiding Citizen, where you were literally the Unibomber if you were hoping the bomb was where it should've been

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Good projection saars!

>>219052381
>That's not what no true scotsman is
It literally is retard.
"A real neighbour would never do [insert random thing you don't like] so this proves they're an invader"

>>219060502
So any qualifiers are No True Scotsman? Wrong. The no true scotsman fallacy is a rejection of a counterexample without addressing the substance of the counterexample, simply refuting it by saying its not a real example. You're dumb.

>>219060502
>"A real neighbour would never invade someone else's sovereign territory so this proves they're an invader"
You:
>Um, No True Scotsman much!?
>That's fallacious thinking!?!?!?
You need to go back.

>>219060662
>you haven't actually given me a chance to call everyone i don't like an invader (even though it's patently obvious that's the entire point of the distinguishment) so it doesn't count and I can pretend to completely misunderstand your point
Wow, you sure showed me with your amazing logical skills
>>219060739
He didn't say that though. But I'll tell you what, I'll fully concede if you tell me that to be an invader you have to invade someone else's sovereign territory, and everyone born in the same territory as you counts as a neighbour that you must love like Jesus said, regardless of their lifestyle or viewpoints.

>>219051516
BEST ROBBARI

>>219060881
>BTFO'd
>Blathers
Kek.

>>219057320
>>219057375
He had no reason to think it would work. Zod had already told him exactly what he planned to do: kill every person that he can until Clark stops him. At one point, he arguably killed people *with* Clark when he slung him through those buildings. Zod had no intentions of following him anywhere.

>>219058158
Goddamn right.

>>219051516
It’s because superheroes are superheroes because they don’t do things the easy way. This concept didn’t solidify until after JFK said “we do these things not because they are easy but because they are hard.” Before that, “superheros” were just people with superhuman abilities beating up normal criminals.

>>219060935
>realises that he can't respond without admitting he's full of shit
>deflects instead
Wow, why am I not at all surprised? Fake christians trying to twist the bible's words for gain are the lowest of the low.

>>219060381
Highest Grossing DC Films in India:
>Joker (2019)
>Aquaman (2018)
>Batman v Superman (2016)

>>219059675
I stll say this bit in Gunnman was Luthor fuckery.

>>219059447
>the obvious savior complex
>a trucker was rude to me so I’ll destroy his livelihood.

>>219060881
>Well sure, I said it was No True Scotsman
>But I didn't really mean it was No True Scotsman
Are you a fucking woman?

>>219061022
>Fake christians trying to twist the bible's words for gain are the lowest of the low.
Say Christ is King, accuser.

>>219061129
>refuses to say the simple words that would make me concede instantly
Another fake christian trying to twist the bible's words for his own selfish gain. Absolutely abhorrent

>>219060944
So it's not the same scenario as in Superman II then. In Superman II Zod wanted only to kill Superman or at least he was his first objective. In Man of Steel Zod wanted to kill all humans possible until Superman stops him, as you said. Even if Superman had tried to take him out of the city, Zod would have come back to the city or keep killing any human he could elsewhere.

>>219061051
Why? The point of Superman is jor’ell does not matter. Superman will embody whatever values are instilled in him by his human parents, forever. He will never need to compromise.

>>219061185
The words mean nothing if you refuse to follow his message, as you clearly do. It's not a get out jail free card. You can't just say some words and think that that forgives you of all your sin. The devil would gladly say that christ is king if it would convince you to commit atrocities.

>>219061276
Your refusal to say it is all anyone needs to know.

>>219061022
>>219061198
>>219061276
>Throws out accusations at Christians
>Rages at the name of Christ
>Refuses to acknowledge Christ as king
>Attempts to twist it back into another accusation
Oh yeah, this is a demon.

>>219061185
Clearly you’re just LARPing as a Christian. If you weren’t you’d know this:

>18 Yea, a man may say, “Thou hast faith, and I have works.” Show me thy faith apart from thy works, and I will show thee my faith by my works.
>19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well. The devils also believe — and tremble.
>20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
>James 2:18-20

This is you. You put caveats and limitations on what Christ commanded unconditionally.

>>219061708
>>219061847
>illiterate fake christians trying to deflect
sad

>>219059447
That only works if you ignore Zod openly stating he’s going to go on a murder rampage because he wasn’t allowed to terraform earth into a planet where he wouldn’t have superpowers.

>>219061708
>you’re not a real christian if you won’t do what a want you to and a real christian would do that


We’re reaching true no true scotsman levels.

>>219061243
You’re right. It ultimately doesn’t matter. I just think it does a disservice to Jor and Lara making them sort of Kryptonian supremacists.

>>219062040
Anon... are you saying no true christian would talk like they're talking?

>>219062185
Fuck off. Kek.

>>219062185
Not him, but unlike a Scotsman, being a Christian, a good one, does have some conditions. We’re all imperfect and we’re also not supposed to sit in judgment if others, but we’re absolutely within bounds rebuking someone making what are, in essence, heretical claims.

>>219051908
All Zod wanted was to kill Clark. If Clark flew out of the city, Zod would have followed him. There are several moments during the fight where Zod is charging at Superman, and instead of flying away or just moving out of the way, Superman charges into Zod, creating a huge shockwave that destroys everything else around them. So yeah, if Superman wasn't such a retard in this movie, he could have lured Zod out of the city.

>>219062131
>not saying Christ is King precludes you from Christianity
Uh, yeah, anon. If you can't say "I'm from Scotland" you're not a Scotsman.

>>219062306
See
>>219062521
There are some conditions to being a Scotsman. Like being from Scotland.

>>219062306
>also not supposed to sit in judgment if others
Not true. We're not supposed to sit in hypocritical judgment. We were given the means to judge and be discerning for a reason.

>>219062306
>heretical
Without judgement, such words have no meaning.

>>219051744
you're one of those retards who says shit like "why didn't the cop shoot him in the leg" aren't you?

>>219057836
>he sure as shit has no idea what most longtime Superman fans like or want from the character.
lmao who fucking cares?

>>219062565
Right, but that ignores the origins of the analogy. Anyone can claim to be a Christian. Joel Shekelstein putting sugar in his porridge says nothing about whether or not Scotsmen do.

>>219051786
Saar, thats "jam boy" to you saars. Put respect on my naem saar. >>:-(

>>219051908
Superman did take Zod to space and Zod punched Supes back down to Earth anyways. What now?

>>219062521
such reading comprehension

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>>219051516
satanism

>>219062157
they're either that or just oblivious to the implications of sending their one son to a place where he'll be a literal God.

>>219063414
He didn't take Zod to space. Zod took him to space.

picking emma up and fucking her hard, not even like on a surface or a piece of furniture or anything, just picking her up and holding her in the air and fucking her
and then you don't even cum inside, you just fuck her for a few minutes and then drop her on the floor like "nah, I'm done now"

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It was just bad form honestly.

>>219051516
>No no, you don't get it, it's okay when *I* do it!
Killing is killing. If you would admit the reality - that you're a sad, angry dude with a tiny peen that gets stiff at the thought of people you don't like being murdered, that what you want is revenge by proxy - that would at least be honest, but you're not even capable of that minor virtue.

>>219051935
>I can punch him across the city and also I can break his neck, but somehow I am incapable of stopping him from turning his head suddenly
It's painfully contrived.

>>219064812
>killing is killing
if that were true we wouldn’t have dozens of legally distinct forms of it.

>>219051516
>What is this mind virus called
Anarchism. To anarchists there's nothing worse than punishing someone because they did something wrong.

>>219065184
Killing is perfectly fine when they violate the nap