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>villain is evil because... he's trying to prevent the holocaust
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If you had a time machine, would YOU prevent the holocaust?
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>>219068958
don't load the question
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>>219068958
No, I would listen.
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>>219068958
What would that entail?
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>>219068958
Yes, not to save the Jews, but to prevent the Jews from milking the holocaust until the end of time, and it would probably mean Israel wouldn't exist, which would be for the greater good
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>>219068958
Yes, I’d go back and kill Moses.
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>>219068958
I mean what could be the downside? Sure it's more alive jews but they don't have the big event to guilt trip the rest of the world on for a century, would also provably reduce the amount of jews in the US by like 80%.
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>>219069360
>Israel wouldn't exist, which would be for the greater good
If you're an antisemite you should be happy that Israel exists.
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>>219068672
>prevent
*cause
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>>219069371
90% of the Jews in America were here before WW2
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>>219068958
How can you prevent something that never happened
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>>219068672
>>219068958
>>219069341
>>219069371
>>219069360
if you prevent the holocaust then no-one knows what's been prevented and no-one learns anything from history. you need to let it happen a little bit, then stop it
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>>219068958
I would go back and give the Germans the info for the bomb. I would then dematerialize and that's a good thing
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>>219069360
the creation of the state of israel was already decided after WW1 as a new peace order in the middle east after the collapse of the ottoman empire. the holocaust didnt change anything in this regard.

and the US/britain/france would likely still have been allies of israel through the 20th century for geostrategic reasons. nobody gives a shit about "guilt tripping" in real politics, there are actual reasons why "we" are allied with israel
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>>219069462
Grindelwald is specifically trying to prevent it indirectly since he wanted wizard's to be in charge after witnessing how the great war went.
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>>219068958
I already did.
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>>219069492
>implying we learnt anything from WW2
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>>219069550
even if heisenberg would believe you, the germans didnt have the money, manpower or resources to build the bomb.
handing them a blueprint changes nothing
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>>219069565
>the holocaust didnt change anything in this regard.
WRONG. Yes, there was already a Zionist movement, but we can't know if it would've come to full fruition if not for WW2.
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>>219069632
because the holocaust was stopped too early
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>>219069673
nigger, the british actually RESTRICTED the movement of jews to palestine before and during WW2 because it was causing them such a headache with the local arab population.
they didnt give a shit about the holocaust, realpolitik is more important than le crimes against humanity.

the british mandate for palestine was always set to expire, the british were custodians from 1918 onwards because of ottomans left and somebody had to take care of this shit. the creation of an israeli state was a done deal in the mid 20s. if anything, WW2 delayed it
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>>219068958
I'd make it actually happen.
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>>219068958
>go back in time
>prevent the holocaust
>go back to present day
>everyone still talks about the holocaust as if it happened and it is used as justification for Israel existing as the only ethnostate in the world
hm..
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>>219069565
>flooding the land with angry jewish foreigners would create a new peace order
Why would anyone think that?
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>>219068958
I'd prevent the whole war by executing all the wealthy 'communists' in the late 1800's.
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>>219068958
I would give the Germans all the research they need to get the A-bomb first.
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>>219068958
I would make sure it actually happened



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