>Among the Imperial delegation, are the people in masks Guild Navigators, or Guild representatives at all?>They were Guild representatives. They were not Navigators. We don't see the Navigators in this first part. That was the one of the challenges of this adaptation – I was trying to keep mystery alive as much as possible. We don't show the Emperor, we don't see the Spacing Guild Navigators. There's a lot of characters that are mentioned or that are in the background that we don't see right away. I tried to keep all the space-travelling as mysterious as possible, like almost bringing some kind of mysticism or sacred relationship with that part of the movie. Everything involving space is just evocated and very mysterious.
>>219089397idk, the movies could benefit from having set pieces other than sand and slabs of concrete
>>219089397What a hack. He should have changed the entire plot like Lynch did so that the killing of the Atreides clan was ordered by a guild navigator.
>mysteryVilleneuve couldn't make anything in his movies mysterious if his life depended on it. Although why people like them certainly is.
Why are chuds so obsessed with guild navigators? They don't appear at all in the first book.
>>219089588Because they're heckin cool, okay??
>>219089526
>I just chose to ignore the parts that are difficult to adapt and call it mysteryhe's just a hack
>>219090200They're not in the first book though. Why would the adaptation of the first book show something that isn't in there?
>>219089397Yeah didn't work. People aren't thinking "uh how do dese spaceships work mayne", you need to actually show something esoteric.If you showed a navigator and little other information people would be far more engrossed in the wider facts of the world.
>>219090223>Why would the adaptation of the first book show something that isn't in there?
>>219089397Hollywood doesn't like real fantasy
>>219089588It’s just nice for physiques like mine to be represented onscreen
>>219090689Liet Kynes is in the first book thoughbeit.>>219090223
>>219090970He meant niggers.
>>219091007I did.
>>219089397We already got the weird mutated navigators in the previous adaptions, so honestly I did not care much for another version. I'm happy when I see something new and original.I guess the zoomers are missing out though.
>>219089397>take famous weird sci-fi book where the weirdness is its best and most charming quality>throw away all that, sanitize it and dumb it down for mass slop consoomersFuck Gayneuve.
>>219089514It was mutual in Lynchs version, The Emperor for his political reasons, the harkonans and then the guild navigators said , "let us in on it" paul is always spared because the truth sayers so accident death is the only option. Also DunC is far worse. Every characters motivates are different. Literally every single one
>>219091075New and original? You're watching the fourth remake of a sixty year old novel, you stupid fucking idiot. Moron is over here like "I want this latest remake to be fresh and exciting and completely different from the other remakes telling a whole new story with new characters and brilliant unseen locations!"
>>219089514The fuck are you on about. He didn't change the plot. The navigator only wanted Paul dead, and that's accurate to the source. Otherwise they didn't give a fuck whether Harkonens or Atreides ruled Arakkis.
>>219090223There are two low level navigators in the book during Paul's ascension to Emperor. Stop lying.
>>219091289It is quite different to the previous two major adaptions, so yeah. hurr durr all you want.
should have done the jodorowsky version
>>219091258No, incel, they are not. >>219091375No, incel, there is no guild navigator conspiracy in the book.
>>219091466redditowsky
>Everything involving space is just evocated and very mysterious.The Bene Tleilax is gonna be beyond mysterious in that case...
>>219089397>I did not say this, I am not hereKinoest scene of Lynch's Dune, no wonder why Denis "dishonest" Villeneuve ignored it.
>>219091258> Literally every single oneSuch as?
>>219089397>spend all day huffing the spice, which is quite literally worm shit>evolve into a flying testicle sack that can fold spacetime.
>>219095317In order to understand the wrinkles of the universe you must become a wrinkled ballsack yourself
>>219095557I guess so yeah.
>>219089397>We don't show the EmperorSo we didn't have to cast him>we don't see the Spacing Guild NavigatorsSo we don't have to design them yetGoddammit I don't have time to invent some cool scifi stuff, I have to design endless concrete buildings and dark hallways
>>219090420how many films have you directed?
>>219091289and you're posting in the 400th copy and paste dunc seethe thread. shut the fuck up.
>>219089397Mysticism is by their very absence, not cos of what people BELIEVE or "experienced" of their powers. Abs midwit.
I agree with a lot of you guys. I honestly love DUNC but on several rewatched it just sucks how little you actually see compared to Lynch Dune. To the point that if you never knew about Dune then you don't know navigators exist and you don't really get WHY the spice is so important.
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>>219090223Doesnt Dunc 3 continue into the third book.
>>219097083>if you never knew about Dune then you don't know navigators exist and you don't really get WHY the spice is so importantYeah it's literally the first thing you learn in Lynch movie.>oh, yes, I forgot to tell you, OP is always a faggot
>>219097083ok but you DO know those things so it doesn't matterDune 1 and 2 are some of the all timer GOAT adaptations
>>219091289Your count is off
Nobody on earth liked Lynch's Dune prior to DUNC being announced. Everyone agreed it was trash. DUNC is infinitely more faithful to the source material, the fact that it doesn't open with the navigator scene (which Lynch made up) is just one example. The SOLE reasons why chudcels hate DUNC and now pretend to like Lynch's abomination is because there are like 2 black people in it.
>>219089397So he was a coward.
>>219099245Yeah well I don't like looking at black people
>>219089397I never really liked the Lynch navigators. They looked too retarded.
>>219099245>Nobody on earth liked Lynch's Dune prior to DUNC being announced. Everyone agreed it was trash. Fuck off cunt, I liked it
>>219100865No, you didn't.
>>219099245there were multiple major fan edits of dune before DUNC was announced
>>219089397Hack fraud carried by Roger Deakins
DUNC SUCKSLYNCH MOGS
>>219101034Yeah there are also loads of fan edits of the HobbitDo you know why? Because the original sucked and people were trying to salvage it somehow. There are no fan edits of good movies.
>>219097083>>219097596https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_TuEO6MttwThis is the second scene after the title card. The first five-ish minutes of 2021 relays all the same critical information you get in the first three-ish minutes of 1984, but it's relayed to you while watching desert battles and cool spaceships instead of some talking head in front of a starfield.
>>219099245>>219100907I liked it before you were even squirting from your dad's ballsack, little zoomie
>>219101352imagine being so brainrotted from culture wars that you have to pretend that this isn't awesome
>>219101271>Do you know why? Because the original sucked and people were trying to salvage it somehow.I don't know why people fail to understand this.
>>219101271It has flaws but what it does well it does really well, unlike the soulless slop that is DUNC
>>219101352Yeah but you don't even see what they look like. "Navigators" just sounds like "human guy who steers the ship". You don't really get the effect or what spice does to these people. And Lunch actually shows shit. This is a visual medium after all. You watch a navigator in Lunch Dune and you're like "holy shit, maybe this spice shit isn't a good idea after all". You watch Dunc and you're like "ok. So they use giant tubes to travel."
>>219101495The navigators aren't in the first book. The whole shit about a guild navigator commanding the emperor to kill the Atreides is not in the book. You never read the books, just some lore wiki, so now you are weeping about how Vileneuve isn't faithful to the source material like Lynch was.
>>219096985Multiple sex tapes with your mom
>>219101454I like DUNC but honestly how they treated Paul drinking the blue piss was way cooler. The way they had him training was way cooler even with the old shitty blocky CG. The fucking audio build up when they start using the voice attacks was giga fucking kino. I don't think I've seen Denis other films besides Blade Runner 2049, but even that feels like it's lacking something, as I just rewatched the original Blade Runner on 4k disc a few nights ago. There's just more imagination, better pacing, better editing, better emotion, Joe Shmoe almost comes off as invincible while Deckard felt fragile.
>>219101352>instead of some talking head in front of a starfieldNothing wrong with that whatsoever. Nor anything wrong with hearing their internal thoughts. It's a grand epic story being told to the viewer. It's also focused on strategy and the mental struggles of intelligent people with complex schemes and organizations. You're a moron if you think Dunc is an improvement and just parroting npc criticisms against Lynch's better movie. Durrr it hab someone tawkin to da viewer so it bad
>>219101556I didn't say anything about being faithful you stupid retard. I said Lunch SHOWING navigators has more impact than hearing a fucking voice clip.
>>219101634The sole reason you dislike DUNC is because you hate black people. You don't think that any of those garbage choices Lynch made are actually good.
>>219101556It doesn't matter because Lynch is not adapting just the first book. He is adapting the Dune story and he only had one movie to do it in. He succeeded and it was amazing. You're an idiot and your three movies sucks ass. They don't hold a candle to the singular Lynch movie.
>>219101739>Lynch is not adapting just the first bookYes, incel, he was.Keep coping.>He is adapting the Dune story and he only had one movie to do it inNo, chud. He intended to adapt Messiah afterwards, he even wrote the script.>He succeededNo, chud, nobody believes that, not even Lynch.>and it was amazingNo, chud, nobody believes that, not even Lynch.
>>219101629>There's just more imagination, better pacing, better editing, better emotionExactly, it might be a buzzword, but modern movies just feel completely soulless and uninteresting even when compared to "bad" films
>>219101702Nta but DUNC is seriously taken down a notch by Zenmuttya. I just fucking hate Disney child actors.
>>219089397>We don't show the Emperor,Yes they do. Christopher Walken. What horrible casting.
>>219101702That isn't the sole reason but it's a big one. The entire cast of DUNC sucks ass.
>>219090689funny thing is in the shooting script kynes is already a woman but she's described as "tan" and not sub-saharan black. probably some studio-mandated diversity. I
>>219101859should have been ben kingsley desu
>>219101912I have a problem with the casting like with the Mario Movie. Just absolutely the safest casting choices with popular faces. Don't get me wrong, I like some of those actors, but... Zenmuttya, only there because of Euphoria being popular. Anya, only there because she literally has to be in everything. Jason Momoa, he did a decent job but you know he's there because of Aquaman. I like Christipher Walken but he really has no lines or directing besides "look disappointed and quiet". The nigga that played Elvis... Is there because he was Elvis. Leia Sydeux, extremely hot babe but we she's basically in everything now.
>>219101352>you get some OC DEI negro instead of a plot relevant beautiful white womanJust what the DUNC audience wants, I guess.
>>219102364Imagine being this obsessed about niggers.
>>219090689DOON
>>219102513Imagine adding niggers to everything for no reason.
>>219102056>sub-saharanWhy are incels so obsessed with this word?
>>219102938No idea, I can't really tell between the sub-Saharan, horn of Africa, jungle, south coast, etc, ethnic groups. Guess they really love their negroes if they can tell. That of he's a fucking retard parroting another retard.
>>219102090Ackshually should've been Kyle MacLachlan
Spicediver edit of dune absolutely mogs dunc https://archive.org/details/dune-1984-alternative-edition-redux-fanedit-mkv-flac-subs
>>219089397>We don't show the Emperor, we don't see the Spacing Guild Navigators.the first scene in lynch's dune between shadam and the navigator was the best innovation he had for the script that wasn't part of the source material
>>219099245The real fans prefer the superior TV mini
>>219101075this
>>219105176Based and hottest-Irulan-pilled
