>>219089831Interstellar sucks
>>219089831>interstellar>movie in which protag saves humanity but his REAL WORK is not recognized, instead his daughter takes all the recognition for saving the world when it was the dad who did it and she laughs at him in her dead bedVS>project hail mary>protag is sent on a suicide mission against his will by an old hag when there exists the possibility protag will die or won't do the job out of spite and let humanity die>protag still saves humanity by sending the cure to earth (I sure wouldn't do it. Fuck them) and old hag takes the benefits of being the le heroJeez... hard choice... I guess I'll take Interstellar because Project Hail Mary did Goose dirty by not killing that old hag, fucking bitchNo, I will not sacrifice my life to save 8 billions, I would let you all perish.
>>219089943>I will not sacrifice my life to save 8 billionsAnd women won't touch you no matter what you do. That's a good trade off incel.
>>219089831both are slop
>>219089831how about neither
>>219089831The Martian mogs both
interstellar doesn't have any bogged freaks of nature, just a whore with a terrible haircut, so it wins
Interstellar is capeshit slop with tons of plotholes and no basis in physics. Project Hail Mary is fucking hard scifi kino.
>>219089831Interstellar is one of if not the best scifi of the 21st century. PHM is forgettable slop like the Martian.
>>219090504>hard scifiA concept only manchildren care about.
>>219089831Interstellar is proper sci-fi. Fail mary is capeshit for redditors.
>>219089831Debate?both good in their own way
>>219090787Frogposting is subhuman.
>>219089831Project Hail Mary TELESYNC V3 x264-SyncUP
I was just thinking to myself how similar the two movies are. Ultimately comparing them is pointless, they're actually about very different things and both are excellent movies. A better question would be to ask which film will age better?
where are the no time for caution edits
hail mary is a smooth ride, enjoyable but not memorable, interstellar has low lows but really high highs
>>219089831Interstellar sucks except for one great scene. Project Hail Mary is fine thoroughly .
Ad Astra
>>219091167>A better question would be to ask which film will age better?It's more than 10 years since Interstellar's release and it has only risen in reputation. Project Hail Mary will not have the staying power or at least it will have the same staying power as The Martian which is not discussed much.
>>219091514I don't know, the timing of this movie and the meteoric box office run it's about to go on make me feel like it could have some substantial staying power. It's the first film in a while where I've had so many people I know irl not only talking about it but talking about having seen it or going to see it. And I certainly think it's of a similar level of quality. It's certainly more consistent than interstellar >>219091305 although I disagree with the idea that it isn't memorable, it's incredibly memorable.
>>219091656The Martian was similarly successful. It made 600+ million more than a decade ago. Project Hail Mary will end up with similar numbers. It will just be skewed more towards the US than the global boxoffice.
>>219089943she also did work, not just the dad, nolantard
>>219092143He is obviously not a Nolan fan.
>>219089999That's great!
>>219089999being the guy who saved the world get you laid easily
>>219090727Christcuck detected
>>219089943>his REAL WORK is not recognized,He just pressed "record" and had a computer do all the hard work, she spent her life working on the magic equation but was missing key data.
>interstellar>the martian>hail maryspace for redditors
>>219097284ok anon, care to tell us what movies you WOULDN'T consider to be reddit?
>>219097526
>>219089943PHM Sounds like training the Murican kamikaze. Follow the order ("for the greater good"), never question those in charge. But gee family relationships don't feel real in Nolan, in fact no relationship does.
>>219097761>obscure polish surrealist film that nobody irl has ever heard ofI'm sure it's very good anon but this is meant to be a place to discuss television and film with others, not a place for you to flex how niche and performative your film tastes are. what a loser lmao
>>219089943>(I sure wouldn't do it. Fuck them)you are such a fag lmao
>>219089831Will this this film success lead to more scifi films?
>>219098216So you would save earth? How many of you would save humanity if you were in Grace place? You wouldn't do shit.
>>219098614Did Ad Astra? So much kino compressed into such a short film
>>219098692I would if Earth had been cleansed already. If chinks, poos, and niggers still exist, not a chance in Hell. But if actual humans, absolutely
>>219089943Virginity speaks.
>>219097910Sounds like you're upset because you've been found out as being a fake film fan.
>>219098698>ad astraMore like Dad Astray, lmao.
>>219099013Neptune kino. International space antennae kino, moon kino, moon battle kino, mars being useless as is expected kino, so much kino!
>>219089831I rate Moonfall higher.
>>219089831Project Hail Mary is High Kino
>>219097872Its not like that at all. Grace refuses to get on the Hail Mary because he's a coward. The rest of the team have someone worth dying for. Grace has nobody. "you don't even have a dog" she says to him. Then at the end of the film, when he's returning to Earth, he sacrifices that so he can save Rocky and the Eridians, because he finally has someone worth dying for, and he's no longer a coward.
Left is more cinematic Right is more fun
>>219097526Ad Astra, Aniara, Moon
>>219099483> AniaraWhat happens when women take control >that’s ending will never not be kino
>>219097910Kek gottem
>>219099564Exactly it's actually a based movie even if it's super bleak
>>219099626Did we ever figure out what the alien rock was?
>>219099665It was your mothers disappointment in you made manifest.
>>219089831Interstellar was great, until the black hole scene, then i was seething and raging, what retarded horseshit that was. To make a vague attempt to adhere to physics for the entire movie, until that last moment, and then just throw it away entirely like that, how obnoxious.
>>219089831Lies, deception.Psalm 19:1 KJVThe heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
>>219100307My mom is a massive bitch. She seethes when I succeed bc my brother is a massive loser and he blames all his problems on me existing. Thanks tho, bro, I’ll keep winning
>>219089831Interstellar is still pretty solid in retrospect, it would have been more interesting if it went for a more religious/spiritual angle but it still did approach that in combination with the hard science stuff. But the lack of committal to that made the writing with "maybe love is the true power of the universe!" come across more silly and hackneyed than it needed to. Still, it's story is played mostly seriously with an adequate amount of humor that was never too groan inducing and it felt mostly genuine and non-manipulative in terms of its emotional resonance regardless of the audience.Hail Mary is a solid children's movie, but it doesn't work as an interesting film for adults beyond the surface level visual stuff, which made it disappoint me after hearing all the praise. It might just be how the novel is written, but I expected the alien character to be more introducing than just "instantly loveable focus group tested little side kick." It would have been interesting for there to actually be some conflict of interest, miscommunication, some hint of potential hostility that they still ultimately have to work through to achieve their shared greater mission. Instead it's played very simply as quaint adorable buddy comedy. A lot more cringe reddit writing that's so dated the critique of that style itself is also now dated. Far too many fake endings too that were unnecessary and dragged it on so long for what it was.2001 A Space Odyssey still easily mogs all attempts to match it, not even a question. It's also the most visually impressive of any space movie despite coming out in the 60s which makes it more mind boggling and only improves with age.
>>219100770>to be more introducing*interesting
>>219089831wait, this hail mary movie is kino? Should i go cinema?
>>219089831I like Interstellar a lot, it's one of the few Nolan movies that I enjoy rewatching. Great music, atmosphere, character drama etc. However, it's not a good sci-fi movie. The science in it makes very little sense, it's frustrating. The ships with their questionable amount of delta-V dictated only by plot convenience, wacky water planet, arbitrary amounts of time dilation (also dictated by plot convenience). But most importantly - the goddamn BLACK HOLE, which is the last thing you'd want in the center of your supposedly habitable system.Meanwhile, PHM is a movie where pretty much everything makes sense. And a more enjoyable movie in general.
>>219100770Based. It’s a general dumbing down of everything. Even if you are an actual nigger I have no problem with you bc you’re smarter than the average third world /pol/ tard these days >good take
>>219089831So what's killing all the stars in hail mary?
>>219089831Maybe the one with 2.8 million 5 stars on Letterboxd
>>219100996A microscopic life form that has developed an ability to absorb and store huge amounts of energy, and can use this energy for interstellar propulsion in search for conditions where it can multiply.
>>219099421Yeah but if they never sent him he would have been alone for the rest of his life
>>219100770>2001 A Space Odyssey still easily mogs all attempts to match it, not even a question. It's also the most visually impressive of any space movie despite coming out in the 60s which makes it more mind boggling and only improves with age.that films a masterpiece, but i simply did not enjoy watching it, far far too slow, zero charisma in any of the actors, that ending was a poorly budgeted mess too, despite being interesting.Its quite telling that when the author of the original book, saw the film at the premier, he literally stormed out mid-film in tears, TEARS. He was that upset, he said "Kubrick made space travel look boring, he ruined my novel".
>>219100926Yes
>>219098780>Sounds like you're upset because you've been found out as being a fake film fan.>NOOO YOU NEED TO WATCH ANTON SEMENYETCZKJI'S 1976 POST-ABSURDIST MASTERPIECE "POLYGONA" OR YOU'RE NOT A REAL FILM FANlol
>>219089831both are awful
>>219089831Anne Hathaway character fucking ruins Interstellar. Project Hail Mary wins
>>219090295The Martian falls apart as soon as you consider that its initial premise is total bullshit, because winds strong enough to tip over a rocket are impossible on Mars. No need to even nitpick it further at this point (despite there being plenty of stuff that deserves criticism).And even if you assume that in reality of this movie such conditions are possible on Mars, it still fails to be internally consistent with itself, because later on the movie tells you that the atmosphere is indeed very thin - so thin that you can go into orbit in a partially disassembled spacecraft that isn't shielding you from the environment.
>>219101435I think you meant Spielberg
>>219101570>nooooo you're not allowed to write a fiction story if it can't really all happen!!
>>219101240>Its quite telling that when the author of the original book, saw the film at the premier, he literally stormed out mid-film in tears, TEARS. He was that upset, he said "Kubrick made space travel look boring, he ruined my novel".The book and movie were developed at the same time and the book actually came out after the movie. He never said he ruined the novel either. It is true he was upset when the movie first premiered, probably because it was far more auteur/psychedelic/mythological with the hard science stuff Clarke obsessed over being relegated to the aesthetic sheen that tied the movie together, but what can you expect from an autist eccentric film maker like Kubrick was vs boring rote hard science author guy. Important to remember too that the movie was very polarizing when it came out to most audiences, because it was so strange and not like a traditional movie. It's definitely more about the overall package and themes and inverting what a movie was "supposed" to be, ie making the human characters more robotic than the AI villain as a point to push an ironic theme about the straight edge nature of human science vs the cosmic mystery and exotic unknowns of the greater universe. Definitely understandable reasons to not enjoy it subjectively though
>>219101628Try reading the whole post before replying.
>>219091098>Project Hail Mary TELESYNC V3 x264-SyncUPWhere? So far I've only found V2, which is the same as V1 (even that shitty watermark is still slightly visible) - but a lot darker, so dark that you can barely see anything at times.I've seen it in IMAX, I know how it's supposed to look.
>>219089831Should they adapt Red Rising as a film trilogy next? I guess Lord and Miller will adapt Artemis since they have the film rights.
>>219101625Yes I did
>>219089943Looking at all the replies my post got...When did /tv/ become r#ddit? I thought you guys were men
>>219101937Just gonna go out there and say I never responded bc I thought you were a faggot, anon
I had never been to the theaters to see a movie for the second time and I had never been to the theaters to see a movie all by myself.I did both of those things for P{roject Hail Mary, but I sort of wish I would have done it for Interstellar too.
>>219099421Added bonus that he was also saving Rocky's world.He is human spirit: the characterMany movies about space feature that, don't they?
>>219102448Literally me
>>219094535LOL.LMAO, even.
>>219102152None of you would save humanity
Enough with the "morally grey" characters.We need more characters like Rocky, not a mean bone in their body. The whitest of whites.There's a reason Samwise Gamgee is one of the most beloved characters
>>219102846I would if humanity still existed and wasn’t replaced by the jew with a bunch of of third world jungle people
>>219089999checked
>>219101794Found it.rlsbb, there are some DL links in the comments that are free and fast.Still not great, but better than previous releases.
>>219090504>hard scifi>I just made a nitrogen resistant strain of this bacteria with my wacky alien friend who somehow understands me without a translator>I just science-d the hell out of my calculations and managed to meet up with my alien friend accross the galaxy because he needed me!
Ad Astra > Sunshine >>>>> Interstellar >>>>> Project Hail Reddit
>>219104229Sunshine is incredibly underrated, esp before it turns into a horror film. Such great cinematography
>>219100444...sheweth?also checked those digits
>>219102448>I sort of wishentire post invalidated
>>219089831Interstellar was great for the first two hours (maybe a bit less). Project Hail Mary is slop pretty much all the way through.
why do people insist on calling anything that tries to put forwards a message of hope and optimism reddit?>>219100770I honestly can't quite understand your read of the film, yes it's got quite a bit more comedy and "silliness" than interstellar does but it's still a deeply emotional, serious story at times. The casualty projections for earth and the fact the project is supposed to be a suicide mission for instance make me struggle to understand how you could paint the movie as unserious.Also 2001 a space odyssey is a tour de force in terms of cinematography but it is not a good movie, simply because it is BORING.
>>219089831Hail Mary. By far.
>>219101570Couldn’t they have just used a Marsquake instead?
>>219089831>The great debateno its not hail mary is to interstellar what ai art is to mona lisa
>>219096678ath*ist faggot detected
>>219105382A meteor shower would've been better. Matt Damon's character could've been in a rover, away from the base, investigating one of the first impact craters. Then the crew gets an order to get out of here before things get worse. They wait for him to return (already prepared for launch), but end up seeing his rover in the distance get hit by another meteor, followed by immediate loss of communication.This is also quite an asspull, but better than impossible strong wind.
>>219105171>a message of hope and optimism reddit?That's not what it has to do with at all. It has to do with the style of writing. Ie serious moments that are supposed to have an emotional impact are never allowed to breathe for as long as they should, immediate and abrupt levity as a follow-up is basically a required necessity and can be predicted without fail which makes it jarring and takes you out of the moment every time. It is also how these lines are actually written.The movie can have a deep and emotional story about hope and optimism. But it ironically becomes very cynical in a meta way when you have this alien thing instantly become a wholesome chungus immediately. Rocky in the film is basically portrayed as a childlike, humorous, completely harmless character. This is supposed to be an alien scientist ostensibly from an even more advanced society that apparently has cultural norms somewhat similar to humans, they live for far longer, imagine if the alien was actually serious, or dour, or severe, or if you couldn't quite gauge its motivations or intentions right away given its an alien with a completely foreign language? Instead the movie turns him into a comedic baby pet within a few minutes of it being introduced. Fine for a children's movie, but eye roll inducing if you're expecting something that has a story with a little more stakes or intrigue.
>>219106992Yeah see I didn't get that from the movie at all.>Ie serious moments that are supposed to have an emotional impact are never allowed to breathe for as long as they should, immediate and abrupt levity as a follow-up is basically a required necessitydon't get me wrong I agree this is a serious issue with many modern films, but I genuinely cannot think of a single moment (having seen the movie yesterday) in this film that this applies to. I always felt that the somber moments were allowed to breathe. As for rocky, for starters, I thought he was actually done quite tastefully and they didn't overplay the cuteness. You mention his introduction being "instantly a wholesome chungus" as if one of the first things we learn about him being that dozens of his friends are dead. He's "wholesome" in the sense that he is a loving, friendly companion, but I don't see a problem with that. Just because there are many instances (see: the mandalorian) where the soulless "le cute alien" trope gets overdone doesn't mean it's automatically bad to have a cute alien buddy in the movie. I actually found it to be refreshing and meaningful that the alien is immediately a friend and there is never any doubt from then on that he is good.
For me? It's Moon
>>219107191*as if one of the first things we lear about him isn't that
>>219106954Come to think of it - why didn't they come up with something like this for the movie? This was a known issue by the time they started making it. Ridley Scott is a lazy hack.
>>219107191The scene that immediately comes to mind is when Ryan Gosling says he has accepted his fate that he has to sacrifice his own life and you think maybe he actually has come to terms with it even if he's not happy and it's sort of a bittersweet moment. Then immediately the alien is like "you're good you can just have my fuel" and he's like "thank goodness I totally hecking made that up Im so scared!" in a way played for laughs. There is never any tension between the two whatsoever, Ryan Gosling never actually seems depressed, or angry, or hopeless, he's never mentally breaking or having an episode, it's constant goofy mode science the shit out of this with inevitable macguffins and savior moments always preventing him from actually being able to have a moment of dire stress and hopelessness. Once again I really do think this is a fun flick for young kids since it's never really scary or dark and there's always a happy upside and humor injected anytime it might go that route but I would have been a lot more engaged if both characters actually had in-depth character traits and complexity. Maybe Rocky doesn't initially want to give him fuel because he's concerned too many of his own people will die with the delay that will cause but ends up changing his mind after Grace earns his respect or something. Nothing like that ever remotely comes up though which just makes both characters feel hollow and artificial, characters designed to be generic audience approved movie good guys rather than real beings in a real situation with stakes.
>>219089999>foid big madKek.
>>219101937/tv is a bunch of faggots. They still consume goyslop, so what do you expect.
>>219107511>both characters feel hollow and artificial, characters designed to be generic audience approved movie good guys rather than real beings in a real situation with stakes.Bingo This is ultimately what Reddit means. The movie is apparently about hope and optimism. But the movie itself is a cynical product, a disingenuous, artificial construct of the most low level, sappy, manipulative garbage built for general audience feel good moments in a very see through way. As a result the discerning mind experiences the opposite reaction they hypothetically should, the shallowness and laziness of how the movie delivers its message rendering the message itself trite and fake. A tour de failure rather than de force, it will be forgotten more quickly than its cousin the Martian, a film which despite being more recent than space epic Interstellar is virtually never discussed or referenced compared to that much better, if still flawed, film on account of its genuine attempt to tell a real story.
>>219089916/Thread
>>219101937What do you expect from people who consume capeshit? /tv/ is /co/2 ergo reddit 3
>>219107511It's pretty obvious that this is closer to a PG movie than a PG-13 movie. There must just be a couple of scenes that push it over the threshold according to modern criteria. The target audience is clearly 8-13 plus parents, or adults who can appreciate a wholesome movie on that level.It surprises me that anons ITT don't seen to realize this, and that more than one person here is entertaining the idea that Interstellar was above a 5/10
>>219089831Interstellar is complete trash and the fact you place Project Hail Mary with it, I presume it is trash too.
you ever notice how none of the people who think these movies are mediocre/trash ever mention examples of what they think is a good movie
>>219108860The good counterpart to this was The Martian. Has the same "science the shit out if it" quippiness and general sense of optimism, but it is just such a better flick overall. Personally, I enjoyed the depiction of the machinations of bureaucracy in TM, which, despite being optimistic itself, was detailed and felt somewhat thorough
>>219109098The Martian is nowhere near as good as PHM.One of the reasons is >>219101570But a much bigger reason is Matt DamonThere are other reasons too, including more scientific inaccuracies (which are far more glaring in a movie that attempts to be grounded in reality) and the rest of the cast that ranges from bland to insufferable.
>>219101065>Liboxd has credibility
>>219108174Holy fucking based and accurate. The fucking Amazon logo at the beginning of this flick and then the laughably diverse astronaut crew where every astronaut was either a white woman or some mutt/chink male? Lmao. I could literally see the jews in the production studio conspiring the media/shill campaign for this low effort trope slop, forgot there was even supposed to be a movie to take seriously
>>219089831Red planet
>>219107511this
>>219110086Was that the one with the bacteria eating bugs that ended up eating everything? And they got saved using cute little pathfinder or something? It’s been a while
Almost nobody liked LIKED the martianoh yeah and fuck space odyssey, one of the most overrated movies
space is reddit
>>219110362Yes. AIMEE a robot dog
>>219097761>posts literally retarded shit no one has ever heard of, spoken of, or talked about as his response
>>219110911Checked. That little nigger was one of the best villains out of any sci-fi I ca remember. She was legitimately terrifying, and this was before Boston dynamics and black mirror and all that bs
>>219101833It's too massive in scope and too reliant on cool effects to be feasible in live-action. Needs to be animated, would make an incredible anime (or western animation if boomers weren't retarded)
>>219101570If wind on Mars was enough to rustle your realism jimmies PHM might as well be Star Wars or Lord of the Rings
>>219104202>nitrogen resistant strainsingle cell organisms adapt quickly to antibiotics, nitrogen wouldn't be an issue if introduced in stages over a few generations,which wouldn't take long>wacky alien friend who understands me without a translatorThe alien sees with echolocation, so it would be able to process sound extremely well, language would be trivial for it to pick up>science-d the hell out of my calculationsit was fuel consumption, that's not even difficult algebra>managed to meet up with my alien friend across the galaxyThe propulsion system leaves an enormous and obvious line if viewed through IR. They literally show him looking for it and following it.You are the reason Netflix shows have to have the characters announce what they are doing 3 times each episode.
>>219115250>The alien sees with echolocation, so it would be able to process sound extremely well, language would be trivial for it to pick upThis doesn't make sense. Sound is like 10% of learning a language. Stop talking out of your ass.
>>219116379How is thinking a species that sees and communicates through sound having an innate advantage to learning a language talking out of my ass?Even if that random percentage you pulled out of your's was true, that is still a sizeable lead and would make Rocky learning english at least inside the realm of possiblity.
>>219116379Humans use tools to "see" things that are invisible to the human eye like infrared or radiation. Rocky is literally the best engineer of his planet and he can make a tool for himself, they know it exists but since their biology does not allow it they dont really use it.
>>219105171>why do people insist on calling anything that tries to put forwards a message of hope and optimism reddit?You're just pretending that you don't get that's not about the themes, but the overall tone and style of the writing here.
>>219117891Yeah. Top Gun maverick was optimistic and it was loved here.
I would say that PHM compares more to movies like Contact than Interstellar. Both movies showed that the Universe is a very lonely place and even humanity is worth saving. If Sagan was alive he would have loved PHM way more than Interstellar.
>>219089831Interestellar is a terrible movie praised my midwits and DUDE I LOVE SCIENCE guys
>>219089831Project hail mary is much better imo That's it I have nothing else to add to the conversation. Saw the movie today and had enjoyed it more than any movie in the past 20 years
>>219096678PHM is fundamentally a movie about faith and bravery retard. Just because they don't beat you over the head doesn't it stops
I didn't like how the movie deviated from the book a bit, in the book Grace was in his late 50s and dying due to the gravity on Eridia when news came that Earth was saved. Rocky offered to prep the Hail Mary which was still in orbit to take Grace back to earth. Also the Eridian was feeding clones of Grace back to him because they don't have the food that can keep him alive.
>>219109816>Bunch of dei hires>They all die/fuck up and the white guy bails them outLiterally how is this not an exact parallel to real life
>>219089831I genuinely want a 3+ to 4 hours cut of Project Hail Mary where there's more of the science stuff, more rocky and grace being bros.
>>219098692>Don't send the predator>Instead deliver a message that unless all browns and Jews are killed the cure that has been found will not be delivered>Send enough of the logs to ensure they know you are serious >Save rock bro >He takes me to his tight ass rock planet>They spend 6 months rebuilding for the return trip>Get close enough to earth to talk to you earth>Verify the deed has been done>Send cure and go back to hiding on rock bros planet
>>219118521Carl Sagan hated the Contact script lmao.
Yes space is fakeBut I do find the concept entertaining
>>219116894>How is thinking a species that sees and communicates through sound having an innate advantage to learning a language talking out of my ass?I want you to rub your brain cells together and think for a moment. How would better hearing help you understand grammar and meaning? If shit were that simple we wouldn't have linguistics as a field.
>>219104202The actual biggest issue I see is our current space ships can barely deal with the wear and tear but I am expected to believe we made a ship that is almost fucking light speed not fall apart when but also almost gets ripped apart being ~5km over a planet?
>>219118681>DUDE I LOVE SCIENCEThe comparison is Andy Weir who is the ultimate "I hackin love science" redditor.
>>219089831Project hail mary is full on hopecore and i'm absolutely here for it. We need more hopecore in the current world that is pretty cynical and depressing
>>219119186I mean the movie cuts off before that point>Also the Eridian was feeding clones of Grace back to him because they don't have the food that can keep him alive.Poor guy forced to be a cannibal
>>219106368This. If you think PHM is anywhere near Interstellar then you can't recognize soul.
>>219119470By the point pretty sure earth is already dead
>>219119728>>219119186me burgers, but i kinda agree where they ended the movie. Would be pretty weird for the ending of this feelgood story to end on the main character literally eating himself.
Some of you guys need to have "A Moment"
>>219119773They said in 30 years earth would lose a quarter of its population Trip there was 10 yearsTrip to rocky planet was something like 6Depending on how it works out it works out that's almost exactly 30 years to be back
>>219104894
>have us think Stratt is nice and swell and very likeable especially with the new singing scene>gut punch us with the betrayal of her forcing Grace to board the ship.that said, its obvious she didn't want to do it but given the circumstances she really didn't have a choice.
>>219119856Garish.
>>219120035Called it the second he said give me time. Retard we are talking about every star in the fucking galaxy going dark your opinion is irrelevant get in the god damn robot
>>219120035>So in the final little scene that we added back on Earth, where she's getting the message that Grace sent her, she has a little tattoo that has a V with a line through it — meaning V as in life and then the line meaning without parole. So Andy thought that she had gone to prison without parole, but then had broken out of prison from her connections, and then was sort of on the lam trying to still trying to save the world.She actually got life in prison but somehow escaped and still ended up leading humanity at the end.
>>219089831Xenophile propaganda movie, I will never trust an alien with my life despite what they're indoctrinating us into
I think hail mary is worse because its too positive
>>219120500It's actually a one world government propaganda movie. Fucking bill Gates and Obama jerked off the book when it came out. Don't know why u haven't seen more people point that out but heyMovies still very good though
>>219089831>Interstellar vs RedditStellar NOLAN WINS
>>219089831I think interstellar is objectively the better movie, but I enjoyed project hail mary much more.
>>219089831I just watched hail mary and this movie is horrible it is literally retarded reddit tier haha silly chungus humor, inconsistent story with uncountable holes in it and the soundtrack is just awful there's literal corpo powerpoint meeting music in it mixed with random tribal third world sounds
>>219121419>uncountable holesName 3.
>>219121419What's the last movie you enjoyed and actually smiled at? Joyless cunts like yourself are EXACTLY who need the hopeium injection
>>219104202They had a 4 hour cut of the movie with all that, cut it down to a 3 and a half hour cut, and then after the friends and family test screening cut it down to 2 and a half hour movie.The thing they're most upset about cutting was nuking Antarctica to release enough greenhouse gases to keep the planet from freezing while he's travelling to Tau Ceti.
>>219089831Interstellar is highly overrated.
>>219121943>The thing they're most upset about cutting was nuking Antarctica to release enough greenhouse gases to keep the planet from freezing while he's travelling to Tau Ceti.Fuck me that sounds tight. Can't wait for the extended editions release
>>219122133It had good visual concepts like Tars and the library of time. Great soundtrack as well. The messaging was a bit wonky.
>>219121471the astrophabe that is a single cellular organism made of things that single cellular organisms on Earth are made out of eats STARS and travels through SPACE by absorbing physically impossible amounts of energythe rock aliens didn't know about radiation, they built a spaceship with no protection against radiation to go to space and one of them survived because the astrophage fuel canister was next to his room so it just ate the solar radiation before it got to the alien yet the alien still went about in the ship that is entirely pervious to radiationthe ameba that they found to eat the astrophage evolved to escape through solid material made out of a somehow solidified noble gas in a couple of days but it came back to earth in a plastic jar just fine>>219121797It is not my fault all the recent movies are utter shit but if you want an honest answer recently I re-watched the movie Pi which is actually GOOD
>>219089831interstellar has a little more depth than rock crab movie
>>219114683Unlike in The Martian, science in PHM never contradicts itself. And the only fantastical things in PHM are the alien species, which doesn't make them impossible - just implausible.
>>219119226I hope they include an entire Blu-ray with just the extra content (finished or unfinished VFX, whatever) in a physical release.
>>219122796Interstellar had Foy. The fuck does RejectSnailHairy have?
>>219089831>bro just sacrifice your life to save humanity even if you don't want toUmmm no, its his choice. Maybe he would've had a wife and kid, he had a dog. He still had his life ahead. They could've found a way to stop it. Women are evil.
>>219089831grace rocky save cinema
Since i have the fatigue it was nice to see a movie where only 2 blacks matter at all and one of them quickly diesIn some moment there is some good object thing and it has something that kinda looks like a cross on it, i'm not christian but even that much is usually anathema to a modern audience aimed script
People say nolan's films are overrated but between him and PTA, guess whose movies are still talked about these days?
>>219121943you gotta nuke siberia permafrost not ice, if anywhere, and release natural gas without burning it because methane is more of a greenhouse gas>>219121943I wanna see that>>219104202the nitrogen thing was the worst science aspect
>>219123617Nolan is great desu. His films stand the test of time.
>>219121943>The thing they're most upset about cutting was nuking Antarctica to release enough greenhouse gases to keep the planet from freezing while he's travelling to Tau Ceti.They never said this.
>>219127151He makes popcorn flicks and never pretended to be something else. Even when they are stupid, they are still watchable except for few turds like openheimer, tenet.
saw movie good movieDo not understand why some slash tv slash upset question
>>219123617>>219127151>>219127527Odyssey is repulsive modern American garbage.
>>2191226761. "Astrophage is magic"It’s literally a biological photon drive. It doesn't "absorb physically impossible amounts of energy"—it converts energy into mass via E=mc^2 by storing it as neutrinos. It’s a super-efficient heat sink that uses quantum tunneling for perfect insulation. It "eats" stars because it’s a specialized extremophile. If you can accept a lightsaber or a warp drive, you can accept a microbe that moves via radiation pressure.2. "The Rock Aliens are too stupid to know about radiation"They aren't stupid; they have a different tech tree. Erid has an atmosphere 29 times denser than Earth’s and a massive magnetic field. They live in a total radiation shadow. They never invented "sight," so they never developed optics or EM-theory. You don't build a Geiger counter if you’ve never encountered a single subatomic particle in 10,000 years of civilization. Rocky survived because he lived in the engine room surrounded by fuel—and Astrophage is the galaxy's best radiation shield because it eats the particles. The rest of his crew died because they didn't sleep next to the battery.3. "The Taumoeba/Xenonite 'Plot Hole'"This is the ultimate midwit filter. Grace didn't breed them to "eat" through solid material; he inadvertently bred them to hide from nitrogen.• Xenonite is a solidified noble gas with a perfect, repeating crystalline lattice. On a molecular level, it's a "chain-link fence." The Taumoeba evolved to be small and squishy enough to wiggle through those specific gaps.• Plastic/Glass are amorphous solids. Their molecular chains are a tangled, chaotic mess with no clear "tunnels."A Taumoeba can slip through the "impenetrable" alien mesh for the same reason a mouse can fit through a steel grate but gets stopped by a piece of plywood. It’s about porosity, not structural strength.TL;DR: The science holds up if you actually read the page instead of just looking at the pictures.
>>219128139It’s written with AI but it is all explained in the book
>>219128139>It’s literally a biological photon drive. It doesn't "absorb physically impossible amounts of energy"—it converts energy into mass via E=mc^2 by storing it as neutrinos. It’s a super-efficient heat sink that uses quantum tunneling for perfect insulation. It "eats" stars because it’s a specialized extremophile. If you can accept a lightsaber or a warp drive, you canThis is nonsense lmao. Hard Science fags are retarded.
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>>219089831>Shit movie > Mongoloid movieI'll go with Interstellar
>>219089999And they will die bitter ad alone, surrounded by catsI'm fine with that
>>219090504That shit is as hard sci fi as Star Wars
How can Ryan Gosling survive in a planet full of rock crabs with nothing to eat?Unless they can synthesize biological food which I think it highly unlikely.
>>219097526Star Trek TOS movies
>>219098614Si fi is deadMovies are deadAnd all these movies are crap>>219098698Ab Astra is shit
>>219099450left is badright is cringe and bad
>>219105171You can give a message of hope without being unwatchable reddit cringe shitStar Trek did it all the times
>>219107225Moon is actually good. Unlike the other shits mentioned in the thread
>>219107511>>219108763This and this
>>219128233>>219128392In the book He eats burgers made out of himself.
>>219119696Performative shit is the epitome of cynical and depressing
Nolan is a hack and Interstellar, like all his movies, is trash.
>>219122133True, but it's still better than the other shit
>>219122891>science in PHM never contradicts itself.lololololol
>>219128139None of this makes sense lmao
>>219108763>>219107511>“From the guys that brought you The Lego Movie, Spiderverse, and Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs”Why are we acting like it being a silly fun movie for kids is a revelation?>"thank goodness I totally hecking made that up Im so scared!" in a way played for laughsYoure falling back onto critiques you’re comfortable with because they worked with Marvel for years without really reading the material. PHM is informed by Marvel’s tone and form (it is, after all, a movie made by 2 millennial filmmakers that have contributed directly to modern Hollywood formula), but the scene you highlight here as an example of “serious moment undercut with joke” doesnt really fit the guidlines you are prescribing. The entire scene maintains a balance between levity and poignance; something producing a laugh is not the same as being played for laughs. Goose admitting that no, life is sacred and nobody ever actually accepts their death, that this is just something people say to remain stalwart in the face of it, may be delivered in a way that produces levity but still highlights the poignancy of the moment. Its not a “quip”, its not a “joke”, it is, as far as a lighthearted millennial kids film really can be, a moment of profundity, of weakness, and vulnerability. If there is a moment in this scene which actually serves to bolster your argument, a “joke” which lightens the moment to an unneccesary degree, it would be the moment which ends the scene: the extended hug which confuses rocky and then “goes for too long” in that millennial-awkward “who talks first, you talk first?” humor that is very much played out.
>>219104362>>219104229These two posts made me interested in Sunshine so I watched it for the first time last night.I was at the edge of my seat while watching, but thinking back on it now I'd say the movie got slightly worse with each crewmember's death.Not because of the loss of the character or anything of the sort. It's just a coincidence. A character would die, and the movie would take a slight turn for the worse, regularly.
>>219106992>imagine if the alien was actually serious, or dour, or severe, or if you couldn't quite gauge its motivations or intentions right away given its an alien with a completely foreign language?That's just not this story I'm afraid.Rocky was far and away the best thing out of the novel
>>219109098Redditisms aside, The Martian is just a "feel good" movie. Literally nothing more than the usual American "WE DID IT YAAAAYYY clap clap clap" type of film.Interstellar is actually kino, and Matthew McConaghuahayahuehuehue is a thousand times a better actor than Matt Damon
>>219089831I liked Hail Mary better. Interstellar has a terrible story and it's just the kind of a movie that is trying too hard to be smarter than it is. You can tell Nolan was sure he was making an intellectual masterpiece.
>>219128662But it's SCIENCE. You just don't get it pleb.
>>219109764>LiboxdThey would crucify you for saying that. Its Leftistoxd and they demand that you know they are NOT liberals
>>219128998>The Lego Movie,good>Spiderverse,shit> and Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs”eh... ok
>>219129163https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Sting.ogg
>>219129072>Funko Pop was far and away the best thing out of the novel
>>219119597>Rocky, meanwhile, doesn’t use any system to record what I’m saying or doing. No computer, no writing implement, no microphone. Nothing. He just pays attention. And as far as I can tell, he remembers everything I told him. Every word. Even if I only told it to him once several hours earlier. If only my students were that attentive!He just does, okay?
>>219089999>And womendidn't ask. don't care.
>>219128583>Thanks to my Earth scientific journals, they know all my nutritional needs and how to synthesize the various vitamins in labs. Once they solved that, smaller, less-focused groups worked on making them taste better. That’s more or less up to me, actually. Lots of taste tests. Glucose, common to both Eridian and Human biomes, comes up a lot. The best thing, though, is they managed to clone my muscle tissue and grow it in labs. I can thank Earth science for that. They were nowhere near that technology when I first showed up. But that was sixteen years ago—they’re catching up quite well. >Anyway, it means I can finally eat meat. Yes, that’s right, I’m eating human meat. But it’s my own meat, and I don’t feel bad about it. Spend a decade eating nothing but odd-tasting, vaguely sweet vitamin shakes and then see if you’ll turn down a burger. I love meburgers. I eat one every day. I grab my cane and head out. I’m not a young man anymore, and the high gravity of Erid has only made my bones degenerate faster. I think I’m fifty-three years old now, but I’m not sure. I’ve done a lot of time-dilated travel. I can accurately say seventy-one years have gone by on Earth since I was born, for what it’s worth.
>>219089831I'm 20 minutes in and this movie has heart. I like Carl and I usually hate niggers.
>>219129417I can tell women make you feel insecure.
>>219101570Maybe they had partially terraformed Mars
>>219129505Carl will be spared during the purge
>>219130029He has a coupon for that.
>>219130205 >He has a coupon for that.two-for-one special at the racial draft office“sorry sir this expired in 1963” “no worries I’ve got store credit”you idiots are gonna manifest a post-credits scene where Carl walks into the purge chamber, scans a Bed Bath & Beyond barcode, and the machine just goes “aw hell nah he cool” and plays a little jinglecinema is saved.
>>219130284You forget the obligatory director cameo where he gets to say the N word in front of Carl
>>219089999based quads of absolute trvke
>>219129582keep coping
>>219104057The movie is not great so why wait?
i rewatched inter and just realized there were other crew members and they spend like an hour on earth before coop even leaves
>>219107511guy you responded to hereyeah once again I just fundamentally disagree with your read of the film anon. >Then immediately the alien is like "you're good you can just have my fuel" and he's like "thank goodness I totally hecking made that up Im so scared!" in a way played for laughs.see I didn't get this from that scene at all, I saw it as a beautiful, heartfelt moment where he breaks down because he's just been given hope that he might get to live for the first time since waking up. That's not "silly goofy played for laughs", that's a genuine, human reaction and his acting in the scene is top notch.>here is never any tension between the two whatsoeverthere doesn't need to be, they're working together to save the universe, characters are allowed to be friends and work together. Whether there's tension between them would only matter if it was relevant to the themes/overall point of the story, which it isn't.>Ryan Gosling never actually seems depressed, or angry, or hopeless, he's never mentally breaking or having an episodedid we watch the same movie? He's constantly breaking and having episodes. It just makes sense that once he meets rocky and has a clear mission to work towards he's focused on that first and foremost.>it's never really scary or dark and there's always a happy upside and humor injected anytime it might go that routeDid you forget the part where it's revealed that ryan gosling got forced onto the ship against his will? Or the part where they repeatedly mention how up to half of the world's population is going to die? Or the part where the woman leading the crew literally sobs while singing because she realises she's sending her people to die? Or when the film opens with two people dying and the main character flicks through photos of them with their loved ones? Yeah sure it isn't exactly an Alien film with terror and fear in space, but it's not childish by any means.cont.
>>219107511>>219131343cont. I don't think you assessed this film honestly. I think you're up your own ass and think any movie which isn't 100% dark and gritty and miserable is automatically reddit and childish without taking an honest look at the movie. It's a heartfelt, moving tale about learning to be brave and maintaining hope in the face of seemingly impossible odds. Having a cute rock alien buddy doesn't diminish that.
>>219108174>>219109816genuinely what is wrong with you fuckers"hope is a cynical artificial construct"are movies not allowed to be fucking hopeful?Also how exactly is the astronaut crew "laughably diverse", it's meant to be the top astronauts and scientists from across the world's most powerful countries, it's gonna be fucking diverse. And it's a fucking white guy who ends up saving the universe. I'm literally racist and yet even I can admit you guys are being retarded here
>>219131343>Did you forget the part where it's revealed that ryan gosling got forced onto the ship against his will? Or the part where they repeatedly mention how up to half of the world's population is going to die? Or the part where the woman leading the crew literally sobs while singing because she realises she's sending her people to die? Or when the film opens with two people dying and the main character flicks through photos of them with their loved ones?NTA but none of these have any meaningful stakes because the entire tone of the film is cutesy wholesomeness epic bacon. It was as believable as a Pixar movie.
>>219131385It's reddit. It's fake optimism peddled by inherently mean spirited people. The ugliness of Andy Weir's heart pushes through this artifice.
>>219131399>NTA but none of these have any meaningful stakes because the entire tone of the film is cutesy wholesomeness epic baconyou guys keep saying shit like this and I keep pointing out parts of the film which disprove that. One of the first scenes is a classroom of kids saying the whole planet is going to starve in front of their teacher who's clearly trying to downplay it in front of them. You talk about there being a lack of stakes when the entire story is constantly framed against the potential loss of all life on earth + Erid, the deaths of parts of both Grace and rocky's crew, not to mention how close grace and rocky come to dying while retrieving the sample collector. I maintain that the argument it's just a soulless slop movie with no stakes and a constant goofy tone is unfounded and doesn't stand up to scrutiny, it's just something you guys like to argue because it fits into your bitter mindset.
>>219131449You need to be 12 to buy into the stakes of this movie. Sorry pal.
>>219131423explain to me in detail what is "inherently mean spirited" about saving the universe with an alien buddy or about the film as a whole? because I didn't get that anywhere.
>>219131466I need to be 12 to understand that the potential deaths of all of humanity and life as we know it on earth are high stakes?
>>219089999Why doesn't a woman sacrifice herself, once in while?
>>219131357>etiher a movie is reddit cringe or grimdark shit false dichotomyI'll take a movie that isn't bad, thanks
>>219131473Anything forced and dishonest is intrinsically bad
>>219131473The entire concept of a genius rejected by the "institutions" for his revolutionary theory, only to be forced to save the world reeks of incel delusion.
>>219131489>dishonest capeshitter answerYAWN
>>219131578You don't even know who are you calling oppressed minority anymore
>>219131545if you think it's bad I can't really help you mate>>219131578bad bait
>strange woman with accent asks a nerd with glasses to get in a black government car to prove his rejected theories rightcould this movie have ripped of Stargate any more
>>219131607if you think it's good movies, and stories in general, are not for you
>>219131700name five of your favourite movies right now which you consider to be objectively good movies. doesn't have to be the best five movies of all time, just 5 of your personal favourite movies which you also consider to be objectively excellent
>>219131901Lmao can't wait for the specious butthurt opinion from someone who likes Andy CringeThe TerminatorAlienIt's a Wonderful LifeGhostbusterJawsThe Man who shot Liberty ValanceWrath of KhanSome like it hotRoman HolidayThe MatrixHere's 10, randomly picked here and there
PHM > Interstellarit's not even close
>>219089831I found Hail Mary more enjoyable. Interstellar is visually impressive but it's story is overall not that engaging.
>>219132097Of the movies on that list I've seen, I like them and think they're good movies. But you just say good movies aren't something I'm equipped to understand. So how does that work?
>>219101937I'm replying to call you a faggot
>>219089999Quad of trvke
>>219132546Dogshit >> interstellar >>>>>>>>>>>> Project Hail Cringe
>>219133226It works that if you like those AND phm you just have no standards whatsoever, like someone who thinks both gourmet food and dog food are good
>>219133723sure, name a few movies you'd consider to be "bad" movies indicative of poor taste?
>>219089916Fip the bip
>>219131578>Revolutionary theory>Theory is just from one of the most famous episodes episodes of Star Trek TOSDamn it anon he's a doctor not a bricklayer
>>219108174THIS and “children’s movie” need not necessitate “shallow corporate focus tested non characters”. Look at a movie like the Incredibles. It’s a kids movie that still has stakes, complex characters you’re invested in, and as a result even though it’s never super grimdark over the top gritty or anything adults and children both get a lot out of it and find it to be a memorable movie.This movie has the immediate veil of being some high concept sci fi epic, is actually trying to appeal to a pre teen audience as an adventure movie, and in effect has the same level of depth and effort put into its themes and writing as a show for toddlers (arguably less; I’ve see episodes of Bluey with more convincing subtext and interesting character interactions). A complete collapse that won’t be remembered by most in 5 years.
>>219134821you guys keep insisting that this movie has no stakes and no complex characters and then we keep pointing out that it does. you have to go back. confidently saying something incorrect/untrue doesn't make it any less retarded, it just makes you sound out of touch.
>>219134892Obviously there are stakes that the movie wants to tell you exist (the earth is dying everyone’s gonna die etc) but it never shows you this. You never see the impact on Earth or anyone living there which iirc is actually shown more in the novel (ie they nuke the polar ice caps to try to induce global warming and slow down the cooling effect of the sun being eaten). That would be establishing actual stakes rather than simply telling you that it’s a serious situation.The characters, objectively, are not complex. Rocky is the most generic, safe, puppy dog sidekick character possible. It felt like baby yoda turned into a rock. At least with baby yoda it ironically feels more respectable that they are straight up just trying to appeal to women and sell a cute baby toy, with Rocky you’re supposed to be amazed how much you feel attached to a faceless thing or something even though they hit every possible emotionally manipulative point to get you to feel this way which is why it works on the audience. Ryan Goosling is teacher guy who’s goofy and charming, he’s a scaredy cat but in the right situation he’s brave. And that’s it. He feels again like a character from a show for very young children. Nothin about him is unlikable or off putting for the audience whatsoever, they write him constantly through the entire thing as “audience is gonna love and root for this guy!” This can work in the right context, but not when both main characters with 90% of the screen time are the exact same way I’ll freely admit I knew nothing about it and went into the movie expecting something that was a little more mature in theme if still relatively lighthearted à la the Martian so part of it was expectations not being met but the entire ending sequence of him teaching rock babies on a fake simulated beach and everything turned out just fine and the constant music swelling, it was just puke inducing for me.
>>219135114How to fix the movie>no flashback scenes>start movie at beginning with Goslings character>he is lonely and genuinely depressed, a pretty sad guy, not much levity >the world is going to shit, you see instability and collapse occurring, children in his class no longer coming in etc so it feels like the world really is falling apart>you get his relationship with walled hag early on, they build trust together only for her to betray him as in the movie, but it feels more surprising and like more of a twist as you’ve spent uninterrupted time watching them bond >Goose is then sent to space and things play out mostly the same but you see how Rocky actually brings out Goose’s sense of connection and actually fixes his depression, he becomes visibly more animated and light hearted, representing a true change from his initial demeanor at the start of the filmYou now have a character that truly changes and develops, a true sense of the sacrifice, betrayal he feels as well as the necessity of the mission for humanity, and even if you keep Rocky as adorable rock baby it still serves as the proper function to bring Goose out of his shell and make him become the hero he couldn’t have been at first
>>219135301Now that's a nice movie.
>>219136785>>219135301I’m surprised they didn’t do something like that ie actually lean more into the literally me meme with Goose. It works so well in something like Blade Runner 2049 because people actually relate to and themselves in his character; lonely, downtrodden, struggling in an uncaring world. He has the range to both be genuinely comedic and serious/relatable. Why not do both? Haven’t seen a movie where he actually does both and I think it would work really well. He starts as a relatable K like character but his relationship with this alien of all things makes him more human, seeing the bright side of life and existence. That would have been a lot stronger without losing the more family friendly tone of the movie.
>>219100770>hail mary is a good children’s movie God you faggots are insufferable I saw it, sat near a family with middle school age kids and they had no idea what was happening half the movie Lighthearted sure, but absolutely not a children’s movie
>>219135301I actually do like your suggestions a lot, I definitely think making him more unlikeable/complicated/broken at the start on earth and then seeing him change into his brave self like that would've been better characterwise, but I think the non-linear storytelling works well to support the overall pacing of the story. I think a middle ground between your vision and the actual movie (I specifically agree the movie could've spent more time establishing how fucked up things are getting om earth for instance e.g. the nuke scene). But I still think the movie as we got it is still phenomenal.
>>219139931The fact that you sat near some mentally retarded mutt children who couldn’t understand such a simple flick is a bigger indictment of the modern brain power of the populace rather than a sign of the movie being hard to understand or follow for what would be a child of average intelligence 20 years ago
>>219140475Yep. That's the take away.>>219139931It absolutely is like decent Disney feel good movie.
