Prove me wrong. You can't.
>>219093569It’s Goldfinger
>>219093743Overrated. The first 45 minutes are 10/10 but after Bond is captured and taken to Kentucky it becomes really dull. 99% of the film's great iconic moments are in those first 45 minutes and why the film is praised. But after, Bond just hanging out as Goldfinger's prisoner on a ranch i. Kentucky and having no anima or any affect on the story whatsoever until the fight with Oddjob at the end. Also it has the worst Felix Leiter of all time, some old dude that looks like he could be Bond's dad.
>>219093569right Bond, wrong movie
>>219093569I can't, I didn't watch a single Bond movie.
>>219093890This movie is fucking horseshit. They went too far with the goofiness.
>>219093569>christopher lee>brit ecklandKino. Is this before or after wicker man?
>>219093569You tell'em, boy!
>>219093569mary goodnight has such a cute butt. i wish i could have stuck my finger in that thing.
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>>219093569This movie could really benefit from a director's cut or a recut. Remove all comic relief scenes, change some of the sound editing and you have the best pre-Brosnan Bond movie.
>>219096343filtered by Sheriff J.W. Pepper
>>219096228you've got some stuff i genuinely agree with, then some absolute fuckery
>>219096416I have good reasons for my rankings
>>219093569I do not hate it, but it is the third worst film of the pre-Craig run. AVTAK and DAF are worse. TSWLM is the pinnacle of Bond films. TMWTG is just such of a waste of potential to me. They should have made it more about a cat and mouse game between Bond and Scaramanga, accumulating in a final duel. The best thing about it is Lee and Nick Nack.
You Only Love Twice>one of the best opening songs>best musical motifs>Bond as a Japanese man>best villain>best villain lair
>>219093890Maud Adams looks better in this then she did in 1974.
>>219096508Golden Gun has by far the weakest plot of any of the mainline Bond films and is doubly hamstrung by the fact that the main villain doesn't fucking do anything - least of all the gimmick his entire personality is based on - for 95% of the movie. If JJ Abrams were born 40 years earlier, this is the movie he would have made.
>>219096521>Blofeld is finally revealed... from behind some dude's assalways makes me laugh
>>219093569>slide whistle It's not even the best Bond movie with Moore, but it's infinitely better than whatever slop Amazon will produce with girlboss Moneypenny and brown, gay Bond.
>>219096228>the world is not enough in A tier>octopussy in D tierGrim
>>219096228The c tier ones besides dad and majesty should be higher imo
>>219096596It just badly written at parts. Why does Bond need to retrieve the bullet that killed the other double-O for Q and the other guy to examine it? Why not just examine the bullet with 007 on it? Is it just padding or that they really wanted some belly-dancing scene? It all seems first draft script stuff, which maybe it is given it comes so quickly after Live and Let Die. The more obvious thing to comment on in the script is the whole solex thing, which is both a product of its time and moreover is not really that integrated into the plot. Just either make the film about Scaramanga actually wanting to test himself against Bond from the outset, or have Scaramanga and Bond's paths cross as Bond is on some other mission. You could even keep the solex part by having very early in the film, either in the pre-credits scene or the first proper scene after, Scaramanga assassinate the scientist.
>>219096796Octopussy is the only Bond film (I of course discount Craig as fake Bond) in which ZERO female characters die. Every other movie is willing to put women in mortal peril, but not Octopussy. That fact alone forces me to place the movie one rank lower than I'd prefer to.
>>219096887Surely a few of Octavia's henchwomen died in the final battle
>>219093956shut up before I smash into you with my hot air balloon
>>219097140Different anon, but I am 99% sure they all lived. Just tonally it does not fit the film for them to die. Instead we get a joke about Q going to fuck them later.
>>219093890
>>219093569>funny script>great villain>memorable location>Moore actually acting like Fleming's BondIt's hugely underrated.
>>219096228>Thunderball in A tierwhat in the fuck am I readinggo watch that movie again and then come back here and apologize for your list
>>219096940Bond is meaner and crueler in Golden Gun than in any other Bond movie, despite only killing one person (Scaramanga) during the entire runtime. I love it. Smacking this bitch around, making miss Goodnight hide in the closet while he fucks her, threatening to shoot that guy's dick off, tossing that little asian kid into the river, etc. Pure kinoI'm sure Moore was uncomfortable playing Bond in that way but he does a stellar job regardless
>>219093569>>219093743
>>219097516I never quite understood how she killed them, but that shit was hot as hell.
>>219096877although Bond didn't know it, and the bullet would have been manufactured by the same man, the bullet ended up NOT being sent by Scaramangaso it was a good idea to get a bullet actually shot by Scaramanga, but Bond didn't know that yet and could've used the 007 bulletwhat I'm saying is, it works well enough for a Bond movie, and Amazon should make Bond movies more like Golden Gun
>>219096596>>219096877>muh plotNGMI
>>219096877>Why not just examine the bullet with 007 on it? It wasn't one of Scaramanga's bullets, it was a fake that the girl sent, that's why Bond calls it a trinket and useless as a bullet. Scaramanga would've known if one of his very expensive bullets was missing.
>>219093569It is my favorite
>>219093890>No more problems
>>219093569I kinda agree.Christopher Lee is awesome.
The best bond movie isn't even a bond movie.
>>219104344Cannonball Run?
>>219093569secretly the best, but you all aren't ready for this conversation yet
>>219106140No question near the top
>>219093569Akshully that would be License To Kill
>>219106140one of my problems with modern Bond is how they had too much of a stick up their ass about being Great Films and afraid to be more TVish like the old Bonds.Bonds were big movies but they were also cranking them out so fast that there was a "welp that's how that scene turned out" aspect.But LALD kinda veers too hard into "TV Movie" territory. Most of the sets look kinda cheap, Rosie and Solitaire's actors kinda suck, and nothing is very impressive. You can say similar things about all three of Guy Hamilton's 70s Bonds, which look shoddy compared to Lewis Gilbert's extravaganzas which followed, but I like DAF and TMWTGG more. LALD's only standout feature is the loads of distinct blacksploitation henchmen. I love those guys.
>>219104344TCHAYMZ MESSUN
>>219106140Top 10 for sure, but I wouldn't put it in the top 5. It has a really weak score, and that long boat chase sequence that has no music whatsoever.... what the fuck? Action scenes need music.
>>219106140This one is pure kino
>>219093964After it, around a year-ish.
>>219108876Doesn't the music come back in at the climax?
>>219096228>DaD tier>DaD isn't even in it.
>>219107213>>219108876>*gives you a card that has the fool on it*>*giggles*
>>219111265that's the joke>>219111328that insult doesn't work if you know anything about tarot, since "The Fool" is the stand-in for whoever the reading is about - the person being read is almost always "The Fool", in thematic function
It’s Dr No for max comfy
>>219111328>*gives her a card with The Rapist on it*>*rapes*
>>219093569i've been going through and watching all of them recently. up to "the world is not enough" tonight.>dr. nonot bad. sets a good start. the only main problem i had was the fire tank and how the one guy just fucking stood there like an idiot.>from russia with lovegreat movie and tons of fun spy stuff>goldfingereven better than before. probably the best of connery's. >thunderballnot bad, but honestly i dont really remember much other than the underwater fight, which was decent i guess. >you only live twicemediocre. the japanese "disguise" was incredibly cringe. im not going to say it was "problematic" or anything, just that it was a shitty disguise that fools nobody in reality. >on her majesty's secret servicepretty good. the relationship progression was pretty good. lazenby did a fine job. the assassination at the end seemed a little forced and weak coming from big bad guys that usually have access to better means than a simple drive-by.>diamonds are foreverdecent movie. fun twists and turns. solid bond fair. the gays were weird though. >live and let dieabsolute disaster. miserable to sit through. fucking stupid plot and everything.>the man with the golden gunlacks cohesion. lacks purpose and gravity. its a clown show. >the spy who loved mecontinuing the trend of lacking impressive spy stuff and going to for comic book spectacle. the threat/mission seem secondary to the set pieces and caricatures of villains. >moonrakerits hard for me to pick which is worse, moonraker or live and let die. its definitely the most over the top bond film. completely jumping the shark. literally everything in space was pants on head retarded. not a single part of the space battle made sense. >for your eyes onlyfinally moore makes a solid movie. feels like a breath of fresh air to be more grounded after the previous string of disasters. the cake smash at 53:15 was probably the funniest moment in the franchise apart from moonraker's space battle(cont)
>>219093569>>219116218(cont)>octopussyno real complaints, but it also wasnt all that cool either. >a view to a killeasily moore's best. arguably better than any of connery's. really enjoyable film.in general, moore himself was... fine... but he lacked a certain human element and charm that connery brought. moore was just too smug and carefree all the time, and not in a believable way, just a douchey way. also i felt like connery's films had more actual spy shit, while moore's were more just conversations with women and villains. ALSO people want to complain about "millenial writing" and "marvel quips" when bond movies have been doing this shit since the 60s. fuck off.>the living daylightspretty good plot and movie, but dalton just didnt bring the right character to the screen. just a bit too unrefined and "loose cannon". i liked that it was more actiony than moore's though.>licence to killgood plot and progression. BEST bond girl so far, HANDS DOWN, NO CONTEST. >goldeneyebrosnan is the perfect blend of all of the previous bonds. great plot, great execution, tons of fun. >tomorrow never diesanother great movie. no notes. everything before octopussy was a few months ago, so my memory might not be the clearest, but those are my thoughts.
>>219096729I don't think anybody even knows the point of that slide whistle.IIR I remember hearing someone saying that during production, someone insisted on adding a sound effect during the scene, and someone put the whistle in there as a sort of "fuck you".>>219097481Yeah Moore was uncomfortable with slapping the woman around. He said he pictured Bond as using his charm to get his way, not with violence.Either way you're right, he's great in TMWTGG
>>219116385Plenty O'Toole was the best Bond Girl and you are gay if you disagree
>>219118318she's not ugly, but she's really bland.
>>219097481>>219118079TMWTGG is a weird one all around, people say moore was written too much like connery, but i still don't think connery would've been as assholish. maybe it really just does come across more rude when moore does it. i can't help but feel the entire movie feels like a connery bond with moore in it, the island at the end and escape reminded me of dr no
>>219118554that's a weird way to spell breasts
>>219093890The book trigger mortis is a sequel to this and it’s far better.
I get From Russia With Love and The Spy Who Loved me mixed up. Which is the one where Bond teams up with the female Russian secret agent? That one was great. I think the other one was good too but probably not my top 3.I'm also a big fan of The Living Daylights which I think is the perfect balance between the goofyness of Moore and the more serious action of Brosnon. License to Kill is interesting but feels more like a revenge film than a Bond film.I have a soft spot for You Only Live Twice because I'm a big Roald Dahl fan and he wrote the screenplay.There aren't any truly bad Bond films until Quantum.
>>219119194her face is still bland.
>>219119452>There aren't any truly bad Bond films until Quantum.live and let die, and moonraker are easily worse.
>>219119539Live and Let Die is awesome from the opening parade scene to the very end. Jane Seymour is one of the hottest actresses of the period as well.Moonraker is corny but a vey fun film. The Rio scene with the cable car is great and Jaws is the only returning villain for a reason. I also absolutely love that the credits include "outer space" in the list of locations the film was shot in.Quantum is entirely forgettable and I genuinely cannot remember what the henchman looked like or any of the action scenes.
To the anon who was defending Diamonds are Forever a few days ago in another thread, I did end up giving it another watch and you were right, it's better than I remember it being
>>219119539you cannot possibly convince me that any bond movie - including the awful 1966 Casino Royale with David Niven and Woody Allen, or even Never Say Never Again - are worse than the Craig films, you just can'tCraig "Bond" is a gay charmless manlet and his films are indistinguishable from any other gritty directionless violent action movie made since Obama was elected, in no world is a Moore or Connery flick ranked lower than drivel that makes Quentin Tarantino look talented
>>219119887mediocre, generic, and forgettable is far better than the shit circus of the other two.
>>219120100I am 100% confident this guy was angry about ewoks beating his stormtrooper toys when he watched Return of the Jedi for the first time in 2008
>>219120098get out of the closet, grandpa.
>>219120100The epileptic fit-inducing editing in Quantum alone ranks it below even the campiest of Moore's movies, without even getting into how bland it is.I can remember the shitty car chase from Spectre at least, but I can't recall a single scene from Quantum.
>>219120150lmao, i love the ewoks. the ewok fight scene is a thousand times better than the moonraker space fight scene.
>>219120196i only saw it once, and i cant really remember it either. however, i can recall that i wasnt filled with utter disgust and cringe upon watching it. i probably havent laughed out loud at a screen so hard as i did to moonraker in years.
>>219120021I thought it had some redeeming qualities but it's overall a pretty weak film. I think a part of that for me is that an appeal of that era of Bond films was the globetrotting aspect and Vegas seemed so 'ordinary' compared to some of the more exotic locales.I did enjoy the villain and I remember there being some fun bits but I think it's definitely in the bottom third of the films in my opinion.>>219120098I was genuinely surprised at how closely Casino Royale followed the plot of the novel. I like it a lot but agree that Craig is one of the worst parts of the film. I also enjoyed a few aspects of Skyfall (but overall thought it wasn't a good Bond movie). I didn't care for Quantum and haven't watched Spectre or No Time to Die.When looking at the non-Broccoli films, Casino Royale is a great parody and has some sexy ladies but Never Say Never Again is quite bad.>>219120100We fundamentally disagree. Both Live and Let Die and Moonraker are fun and exciting films in my opinion. You obviously don't think so. I am glad we seem to agree that Quantum is mediocre and forgettable though.
>>219120021maybe that was me, but DAF has a lot of people badmouthing it because it's objectively stupid, and a lot of people defending it because it's subjectively awesome
>>219120354I mentioned it in the last thread, but I'll concede that Moonraker kind of falls to shit as soon as they go into space, and Jaws having a girlfriend is kind of lame. I like Michael Lonsdale though, he was a good choice for Drax, and before the third act I think it's still a serviceable Bond movie.It's still infinitely more watchable than any of the Craig shit just by virtue of being entertaining instead of sleep-inducing.
You niggers are crazy. Best Bond is clearly Goldeneye, hands fucking down. It’s literally the perfect blend of all of the good Bond aspects that came before it. Anyone who says differently is a retarded faggot.
>>219093569This was my first classic Bond film and I loved it, mainly because of the karate school bit and Christopher Lee, but I was disappointed to learn later in life that it was the least well received of the classic Bond era.
>>219093569i agree op, the campiest kinoest bond, my personal favoritehttps://youtu.be/H07vHL7APyU?si=ApPMmgvWkwZ90tQqi can see how people don't like it though maybe we can all agree some of the sets and locations they had were cool as fuck at least
>>219120537>>219120635Yeah, I'm not about to rate DAF in my top 10 or anything, but it's up to a reasonable B to C at this point. I enjoyed it a lot more upon rewatch.Even Mr. Wint and Mr. Kidd aren't that bad, they're still kind of lame but I don't know, I didn't mind them all that much.
>>219116385Strong disagree. I liked moore but connery is THE james bond
>>219120739Anyone saying Goldeneye or Casino Royale is the best Bond movie has never seen another Bond movie, if any at all, nine times out of ten.
>>219096228Flip FYEO and FRWL and this is a great list.
>>219120021>>219120635>>219120855i wish i liked DAF more because there's some cool stuff, i actually really like the sleepy vegas location, the entire thing feels more sleazy than usual bond movies. but the opening attempt at trying to wrap up OHMS with a dubbed connery is so damn bad, and fat connery with nixon jowls is distractingmaybe i'll like it on a rewatch, i remember being pretty confused towards the middle
>>219120739Goldeneye and Goldfinger are mistaken for the best Bonds when they're the entry points.You watch either of those, decide that you want to watch some more Bond movies, and then you go find YOUR Bond movie among the rest of them.But if you don't end up wanting to watch more Bonds after watching those, you leave it at that. "No, I haven't watched the Bond series but I watched Gold_____ and that was pretty good."Bond is the idiosyncratic blockbuster series. You don't get into them, and then say you like the vanilla one. That goes against the entire point.
>>219120923Ok, nigger. As if you know what I watch. I just don’t have the entire Blu Ray box set that I’ve ripped through countless times. Goldeneye is peak Bond on every level. Sorry you’re a Connery and Moore Fag. Lmao. Get fucked.
>>219121061What’s the story on DAF’s opening wrapping up OHMSS? I never watched OHMSS.
>>219121061I didn't think the opening was that bad, it kind of mirrors OHMSS's opening where they don't show Bond's face initially and then reveal a minute later that it's Connery again."Welcome to hell, Blofeld" is kind of a shitty one-liner, but the fake out that then turns out to be another fake out later in the movie is fun.
>>219120855>Even Mr. Wint and Mr. Kidd aren't that bad, they're still kind of lame but I don't know, I didn't mind them all that much.Wint and Kidd suck the first time you watch. Watch it enough times and their flat, clumsy deliveries of the jokes becomes really funny. It defies all logic.
>>219121137I'll readily admit Goldeneye is good, but it's not quite peak Bond. Sorry you're asshurt.
>>219121117lmao what a pretentious faggot>um, you're not allowed to actually like these movies just because they are good. >you have to pick another one to like for some esoteric/niche reason, or you're not a real fan.
>>219121259>what if Kane and Lynch were autistic instead of sociopathic
>>219121192>I never watched OHMSS.you're missing outafter blofeld fucking kills james's wife at the end of OHMSS, james bond hunts blofeld down and "kills" him. because lazenby stepped away from the role and OHMSS's was clearly seen as a misstep at the time, the entire thing is done very half assed>>219121203i guess my issue is more of how quick they want to wrap up the tracy revenge story. i'm sure lazenby's departure had a lot to do with it, but condensing that entire arc in the first five minutes with a poorly dubbed connery just rubs me the wrong way
>>219121117Imagine typing this.
>>219121502for your eyes only having blofeld show up out of fucking NOWHERE at the start, utterly job an easy helicopter crash, and then get dumped into a chimney, and then for the rest of the movie they dont even mention it is way worse. a completely forced and useless villain cameo.
>>219121713Didn't they do the scene because they were about to lose the rights to use Bloefeld or something like that, so they made the scene basically saying "fine, we'll kill him off then".I see the scene as a sort of flashback and not existing within the timeline of the film.
>>219121502For Your Eyes Only and License To Kill make an interesting "Tracy Trilogy" with OHMSS that gives us a glimpse of what could've been.FYEO not only has the pre-titles with Tracy's grave and the revenge on a weakened and pathetic Blofeld, but the rest of the film has echoes of both OHMSS and James' parents' deaths.Then LTK lets James act out the revenge on behalf of Felix, after his wife is killed right after their wedding.We never got Lazenby's revenge movie, but we get enough to let our imagination piece it together.
>>219122065i dont know, but its gay and doesnt fit at all, especially when he hadnt been a character for 4 films (the entirety of moore's stint up until that point). its just out of place and stupid. if they NEEDED to do it for rights or whatever, thats unfortunate, but man is it a blemish
>>219119887>>219120098>>219120150>>219121117Go watch Austin Powers then faggot.
>>219116218>>219116385Sounds like you prefer the boring serious bond movies over the fun ones
>>219122695>>219122603
>>219122816Yeah I love austin powers too
>>219122695ntahe says AVTAK is Moore's bestI'm an Octopussy guy myself, but AVTAK is extremely underratedliking Tomorrow Never Dies also shows an appreciation for what makes Bond Bond. Elliot Carver is the best Bond villainbeing underwhelmed by Thunderball also signifies that a Bond viewer wants fun. Thunderball superfans are too obsessed with the actors' portrayals of Bond. Supposedly Connery was SOOO good but it never registered for me. Thunderball is... good. I watch it regularly but I'm still looking for the thing some people see in it.
>>219123117>Elliot Carver is the best Bond villaini can definitely appreciate somebody's opinion of that. he brings more personality than pretty much every other villain. or perhaps the other ones are simply too dry and bland, despite their grandiose schemes. i feel like he's far more grounded and realistic in his scheme and motive than others too.
>>219123799Several otherwise mediocre-to-decent Bond movies are elevated a lot by the actors portraying the villains.>Jonathan Pryce in Tomorrow Never Dies>Christopher Lee in Man With the Golden Gun>Michael Lonsdale in Moonraker>Mads Mikkelson in Casino Royale>Christopher Walken in A View to a Kill>Javier Bardem in Skyfall
>>219097441this, Thunderball is actually kinda shit and the ending is ridiculous, From Russia With Love and Live and Let Die are better
>>219124118while their performances may be great, painting a turd is still a turd. elevate, perhaps, its not enough to save a movie.
>>219120021I remember liking that one more than average. The stunts were cool.
>>219096384>Get this obnoxious redneck out of my movie, he doesn't belong!Americans have never understood that Bond movies are made for UK audiences and there is a certain degree of belittling "stereotype" Americans required
Licence to Kill
Has anyone actually watched the 1967 Casino Royale? We've all seen Never Say Never Again, but what about the other unofficial Bond?
>>219124708slop.
>>219104344for some reason that movie was called Ffolkes here
>>219124708it's both amazing and fucking terrible, but it's worth checking out. the twenty minutes of peter sellers footage that clearly came from the original plan of adapting casino royale is the best part, but it's fun to see how they tried to rubberband everything together.you'll either love or hate it
denise richards has a great body in the world is not enough, but i've always hated her bimbo face.
>>219106140It makes me want a Glastron bowrider. But yes, it's one of the greatest Bond movies, just not the greatest.
>>219119452>I have a soft spot for You Only Live Twice because I'm a big Roald Dahl fan and he wrote the screenplay.No need to apologise. YOLT is absolutely kino tier:- Incredible title track- Volcano lair- Nazi villain with classic duelling scar- Bond goes full weeaboo- Little Nellie- Any movie that starts off with a spaceship eating another spaceship is automatically 11/10
>>219124394Thunderball improves if you watch it enoughone of my problems is that it's lacking in structure. once he's in Nassau it feels like he's just hanging out around Nassauwith other Bond movies, it feels like progress is being made because he's going from here to here to herewhat's Bond doing at any point in Nassau? better pay good attention, or more likely watch it again to know what Bond needs to find out, so you can see when he found out.Bond yells at Felix to bring the helicopter down in the Golden Grotto. Why? Just do it! When actually Bond should have said "because Largo mentioned he catches sharks here"maybe my thinking leads to Netflix "repeat everything for phone people" but there were several times when they could've used that enormous room to illustrate how Bond was narrowing things downBond asks Largo how fast the Disco Volante goes. Show us MI6 using that info to draw a radius of where the Disco Volante could reach in one night.Maybe piecing together the structure over subsequent viewings is that magic element. They make you figure it out, respecting your intelligence?But on a first watch, it feels like beaches, hotels, beaches, hotels OKAY WE'RE AT THE CLIMAX HERE'S A BUNCH OF DUDES FIGHTING AND NOW THE BOATS GOING A MILLION MILES AN HOUR KABOOM
>>219124565The moon buggy chase is kind of laughable where Bond's just casually driving away and everyone chasing him just crashes of their own volition.
>>219125461I like Thunderball until the final act underwater and you can't tell who is who
>>219106140
>>219124568>Americans have never understood that Bond movies are made for UK audiencesNo they aren't, they were made for an international audience of straight men.
>>219128657This.Newer generations don't understand that Bond movies were basically huge ads for a certain kind of lifestyle. Showing off exotic locations, gadgets, cars, babes, fashion, etc... This was also followed in step by a huge coverage of all of those elements in all the relevant entertainment magazines and so on. To a lot of people globally Bond movies were a window to locations they would otherwise not know about or be interested in. The marketing surrounding Bond movies was huge and global.
>>219093569I like Golden Gun for its campiness but why not LtK or Live and Let Die?
>Classiest Bond >Classiest Bond girl>Classiest soundtrack>Classiest European locations>Cool villain played by classy Dutch actor>Based Mujahedin plotline>A cello (probably the classiest instrument)Just pure class.
Not sure why people shit on Moore all the time.Every single one of his Bond movies is pure kino.
>>219128917he's a pleb filter and people who hate moore usually love craig. i feel like shit, i just want him back bros
>>219128967I often rewatch The Saint series. It's like watching more of Moore's Bond really.
The Living Daylights is the best Bond movie.It's a shame that the villains kind of suck (although Necros is an A tier henchman and I do have a weird fondness for Koskov). Otherwise Dalton's performance is absolutely killer. The title song is one of the best. The rest of the soundtrack is the best. Top tier bond girl who has great chemistry with Dalton. Pushkin and Saunders are top tier allies. It has the best classic espionage spy shit going on since FRWL. The pre-title sequence is just as good as Goldeneye's or Casino Royale's. The sniper sequence is god tier. The Necros attack on the safehouse is god tier. The ice chase in the Aston is god tier. Both scenes with Bond and Pushkin are god tier. The fight on the opium plane is god tier. The Q scene is classic and Moneypenny is hot as fuck. The tone isn't too dark and still has enough fun from the Moore era, but it overall takes itself more seriously and is greatly elevated because of that. The poster is sexy as hell. Bond pulls a gun on a kid.People say Dalton is humorless but I don't think that's true at all. His quips are just as good as Connery's or Moore's, but he's not winking at the camera like those two. He's delivering them like a guy who is amusing himself in the moment instead of for the benefit of the audience. The smash cut to him putting the cello into the car is the funniest visual gag the series has ever done.LTK is also a top tier pick, but I prefer the aesthetic of Daylights just a little more.
>>219129142Oh yeah, and it also has the best car.
>>219129142>>219128905Nah, Dalton movies feel like stock action/crime movies of the period. They come off too lowbrow and routine. It was a step in the wrong direction. It's as if some off-brand Bond movie just got last second slapped with the Bond label just to make a quick buck. Dalton himself is not the problem, the approach was just wrong. Or rather it's not like you're watching Bond but some other double O agent that just handles more mundane matters.
>>219129142Well said, anon, check my post just above yours: >>219128905
Bond threads on /tv/ are pretty comfy. Everyone has their own tastes even if they're pretty weird (see the anon who likes AVTAK) and it's interesting to see people willing to talk about their favourites without shit posting ruining the thread.
>>219128905>Classiest Bond girllmao, she's some Russian general's used goods who is still loyal to him even after it's obvious to anyone with a brain that he betrayed her. She isn't classy she's just boring, just like the movie itself is boring.>Based Mujadeen plotlinelmao now you're just trolling
>>219129927AVTAK is a casual filter, casual Bond fans grt filtered by it while trvue Bond appreciators love it for how it toys with the Bond formula in unexpected ways and is highly refreshing
>>219130202Kara slander will not be tolerated
>>219130485Don't get me wrong I like the actress, she's sexy and is not afraid to take her clothes off. So WHY would you hire such an actress to play a mousy librarian type who dresses like a 80 year old woman. If she wore the dress on the poster now that would have been kino, but it was a complete waste of Maryam D'Abo. Bond girls should be sexy, and she was just boring.
>>219130433Roger's stunt man is in it more then he is
>>219093956I recently learned the original Casino Royale is a pure comedy.Is it good? The tubi trailer, which is just a clip, shows these bureaucrats going to meet 007 at this massive estate mansion and he they're driving up this long driveway and come upon a ton of lions. Like 20 lions. They start freaking out and the driver assures them they're perfectly fine, just curious. Then a lion climbs on top of the car and rides on it for a time. Just chillin on the roof enjoying the breeze, it looked cool.
>>219131671It's a spoof movie that was trying to capitalize on the spy craze of the 60s. I haven't seen it, but by all accounts it's very hit or miss, mostly miss, with some potentially redeemable parts. I guess it's split up into different sections focused around a specific character or gag and plays almost like an anthology or sketch movie. But the consensus seems to be that it's several orders of magnitude worse than anything the official series produced.By far the most common words I've seen used to describe it are "unfunny" and a "mess" so I haven't been too keen to get around to it.
Licence to Kill >>>>>>>>>>
>>219097579crushed em with her powerful sex thighs
>>219131824Hmmm, ok. Thanks for the overview anon
>>219131671it's badnot like unwatchable bad, but it's essentially Dr. Strangelove as a 1960s sex comedy, the Dean Martin Matt Helm movies are vastly superior, that should tell you everything you need to know about its qualitycompared to real Bond movies - or even Austin Powers - it's not even in the same ballpark, but there are much worse ways to spend a couple hours of your time
>>219133924>it's essentially Dr. Strangelove as a 1960s sex comedyDr. Strangelove is a 1960s sex comedy.
>>219133924I have seen one Matt Helm movie and it was cool and then I watched two movies from a competing spoof series. I forget the name but it was basically identical to Matt Helm. They really liked their spy spoofs back then. I think I remember liking the first spoof series more than the Matt Helm I saw. Can't remember the name though I also like how in the Casino Royale clip on Tubi, this guy is hyping up 007 and he's like >And he plays Debussy everyday like all great gentlemen should>He plays it until the light of the sun is no longer enough to illuminate the notes, every dayLol
>>219120021I love how broadly comedic it is and how Tiffany has no redeeming qualities. For some reason I find her very charming as a stupid greedy bimbo.
>>219119887Quantum had one of the more memorable henchmen of the Craig era and that's sad.
>>219131671Le Chiffre is played by Orson Welles.Just watch it.
>>219134473She has the sexiest introduction aside from Honey Ryder.
>>219093743This. It's crazy how awful bond has been these last 20 years. Goldfinger was made for 31 million dollars after inflation, It's mainly flat shots of people talking, and it's entirely better than the 400 million dollar borefests of NTTD and Spectre. Even the serious bonds like TSWLM had intrigue. The Craig era is just abject misery and sadness
>>219134473>>219134588I think the main issue with Tiffany is that she's presented as this wordly, smart smuggler for most of the film but then during the climax turns into a complete idiot for some reason. Still I liked her, and she was hot and wore skimpy outfits, which is really the important stuff when it comes to Bond girls.
>>219135724I love how she's hanging out on this oil rig in a bikini and on a first name basis with Blofeld. I think she's the only person in any of the movies to address him as Ernst.
>>219135724she would have been the best bond girl if she had bigger boobs like Plenty O Toole
>>219135509I doubt Bond movies will ever get back to being fun and over the top. This series died for me after Die Another Day
>>219093569I rewatched it last year and loved it, honestly. Southeast Asia in the 70s is such a great Bond settingThe casino was cool, I love the ninja school, Scaramanga's boat
>>219136231I don't think it has the issue of not being over the top, it's that it lacks any maturity or respect for the audience. Spectre was their attempt at a "fun" bond but it came off as silly and stupid while also trying to be grim dark Jason Bourne. "Take that James! An injection that will make you forget everything!" He takes it and nothing happens? WTF?
>>219136639His haki was too strong.
>>219093569It's Goldeneye. Its a culmination of everything that bond is, from Connery's gadgets, Moore's suave, to Dalton's wider 00 program and more intense action, its got it all. it feels like a story out of the 60's set in the 90's which is perfect, and famke is easily a top tier bond henchman. everything about it is perfect.
the best James Bond isn't even a movie, it's the PS2/GC/Xbox video game Agent Under Fire
>>219136969Kino
>>219136969Ever played 007 Racing for the PS1? I hated that fucking game but played all the time because i had it.
>>219135724She has 70s anime hair
>>219093569>Prove me wrongMoonraker exists
>Best ConneryGoldfinger.>Best MooreFor Your Eyes Only (best LOOKING Bond film)>Best Dalton The Living Daylights>Best BrosnanGoldeneye>Only decent CraigCasino Royale
>Hottest Bond girlToo bad her character was so boring.
>>219134335Maybe one of the James Coburn, Our Man Flint/In Like Flint movies?
>>219129927I agree and i'm not even a big Bond fan, but everybody in these threads is always chill and just having conversations, as opposed to usual shitflinging on 4chan. Probably because Bond fans tend to be older.
>Best Bond themeThunderball.
>>219137573>Best ConneryFrom Russia With Love>Best MooreThe Spy Who Loved Me>Best DaltonLicence to Kill>Best BrosnanGoldenEye>Best CraigCasino Royale
>>219137643Our Man Flint is the other one. The first movie is pretty funny
>>219120098>Craig "Bond" is a gay charmless manlet and his films are indistinguishable from any other gritty directionless violent action movie made since Obama was elected, in no world is a Moore or Connery flick ranked lower than drivel that makes Quentin Tarantino look talentedThis guy gets it
>>219129142>>People say Dalton is humorless but I don't think that's true at all. His quips are just as good as Connery's or Moore's, but he's not winking at the camera like those two. He's delivering them like a guy who is amusing himself in the moment instead of for the benefit of the audience.His quips are great and my take is he's using them do defuse the tension of a highly stressful situation for himself even if only slightly. The way he delivers them is amazing, especially during the car chase.
>>219137703Yes except only the Johnny Cash versionhttps://youtu.be/Tx-x-sGk9oI?si=jGgV5SNUtUgSsbYZ
>>219138270ngl it's fire no cap
From watching YouTube reaction videos of girls watching Bond films it seems women find Connery the most attractive, even zoomer girls, you'd think they would prefer a more clean cut guy like Brosnan but they all crush hard on the broad shouldered hairy man. I find that interesting.
>>219137573>>219122112>For Your Eyes OnlyHe was gay, James Bond?
>>219139462She's a teenager and Moore's Bond is pushing 50.
>>219139583>SHE WAS 22 YEARS OLD YOU SICK FUCK
>>219139462Connery Bond would've banged her without hesitation.
>>219139462Lynn-Holly Johnson was too perfect a female for Bond. Actual 21/10 woman, Bond can only shag women who are 10/10 or less, not angels
>>219139462>>219139583>>219139829>>219139866This was proto-woke.
>>219139462Most irritating Bond girl of all time, and she's only a 7/10 at best so not exactly a huge missed opportunity for Bond. Now Craig not fucking Caterina Murino in Casino Royale, THAT was gay.
>>219140560>irritatingWtf are you talking about gayboy? Your "chick" could pass for a man.
>>219140639>wtf are you talking about gayboy?I said she was annoying, it's self explanatory. Are you retarded?
>>219140266The movie was surprisingly deep for Moore. FYEO was originally intended for a new actor and when Moore stuck around they, for the first time in the series, acknowledged that this was an older Bond that was reflecting on his past with each woman representing an aspect of his personality. Bibi was the ditzy young blonde in the mould of Dink or Goodnight that young Bond would have nailed for the sport of it. Melina is a competent killer motivated by revenge. Lisl has used her skill set to infiltrate high society and has a taste of the finer things in life but is beginning to tire of the double life she leads to maintain her lifestyle. Not really woke.
>>219141004Of course it's not woke, the anon was joking.
Best villain, and yes, it is because it's Walken.
>>219125461same anon hereI just watched Thunderball again after posting this monstrosityall of the pieces are there. the movie throws in lines of dialog that well explain what's going on, but they're quick and kinda hard to hearI'm thinking that the "putting together the structure in your head" aspect is secretly the movie's hidden charm.The Living Daylights has this aspect as well. The villains' plot is convoluted, but it makes sense once you know the importance of each part. TLD just plain kicks ass so it doesn't lean on piecing together what exactly is happening the way Thunderball does.
>>219141004Even Moore knew he was too old in those last two films, apparently during A View to a Kill he learned he was actually older than Tanya Roberts' mom and that really made him uncomfortable.
>>219141235>that laugh he gives when he realizes he's about to diekino
>>219141004Melina was in the same mindset Bond was right after Tracy was killed. Bond gets to look at himself from the outside by watching her as she seeks revenge. Then he sees a version of Irma Bunt coaching Bibi. He relives his escape from Piz Gloria on skis and the chase with Blofeld in the bobsled track. He finds another dead body slumped in his passenger seat. He meets another countess, and sees her killed. He teams up with another crime lord and raids another enemy compound. And finally, he has to go mountain climbing, how his parents died.When Brofeld taped up pictures of people from Bond's past to fuck with him, that was a shitty rushed version of what FYEO accomplished.I hate to say it, but FYEO and OHMSS are like poetry. They rhyme.
>>219141332Watching him and Grace Jones going at it made and still makes me feel uncomfortable
>>219093569Golden dick!
>>219142430pretty sure Moore was even more uncomfortable than anyone watching. AVTAK is such a bizarre Bond movie, I love it
>>219128905its a good movie but dalton is not very classy. classy goes moore>brosnan/lazenby>connery>dalton>craig
so guys, which film has the best title sequence? not necessarily the song that plays, but the best sequence behind it. i really like "the world is not enough" and the oil girls.
>>219143690The Spy Who Loved Me
>>219143690I'm a huge fan of Casino Royale's opening credits. Probably the best part of the film and I say this as someone who likes the film.
Roger Moore was basically his Austin Powers version of Sean Connery
>>219143690My favorite is the one from Octopussy because Maurice Binder doesn't even try to make the girls into silhouettes, it's just straight up naked women and you can see their nipples.
>>219120855That's an entirely reasonable take and I agree with you. As I said, there aren't any truly bad classic Bond films in my opinion and DAF is a fine, fun movie that just doesn't reach the same highs as some of its contemporaries.>>219125353It's a good, sometimes great movie but I can't in good conscience call it my favorite or even say it made the short list (which just goes to show how awesome the series is in general). It may be time for a rewatch though, I don't remember much about the film other than the plane scene (Dahl was on the RAF and wrote a good number of stories about pilots so I'm not surprised the flying made it into his Bond film); the volcano lair; and Bond's laughable disguise. There was a femme fatale as one of the main villains right?
dalton did it best
>>219144064>Bond's laughable disguiseyou mean raffablethat shit was downright insulting>we're going to make you a convincing japanese man 007>literally staple/tape his eyes all asian and shit
>>219094555Love this mf.
This thread is gonna make me rewatch them all, last time i did it was right before the pandemic in late 2019-early 2020.Except for the Craig ones of course, fuck them.
>>219144470Idk what they were thinking>Difficult onboarding for anyone new because all the movies are interconnected >Literally no plan because no one has anything cool to do>Blofeld owning up to making bond take the fall for leaving the toilet unflushed and thus receiving all the spankings in their youth>We can't figure out anything interesting for blofeld to do so let's make shit up and invent a character that has stuff to do??? Who incidentally hates spectre but actually bond???It never tried to be great
>>219144145Licence to Kill is absolute kino. Great motivation for Bond, great villain, great Bond girl with big bazongas, great Q scenes
>>219096228Fucking based, Craig is not and never will be a real Bond. It's obscene that his tenure as Bond is the longest ever.
>>219093890Based
>>219144711I never noticed Pam having big boobs, but damn she had some nice legs and director John Glen makes full use of them>that scene where she zips off the skirt part of her dress in the elevatorwew
>>219144711>great Bond girlWhich one?Also much like octopussy I gotta say I'm a big fan of "Q does field work" moments
>>219141235Yeah he was actually a kino villain t b f.
>>219144711>Licence to Kill is absolute kino.The ending is chef's kiss. If the whole Bond franchise would have ended there I wouldn't have a problem with it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0oQGuZePlI
I don't recall a darker bond henchmanMr Witt/mr kidd are unsettlingBaron samedi looks like he's just having funBut fuck this guy
>>219144925It frankly should have ended with Licence to Kill. Cubby became an invalid afterward, Maurice Binder died, John Barry died, it absolutely should have been the series' swan song. I can take or leave the Brosnan era, wouldn't shed a single tear if it ceased to exist.
>>219144798When she's in the low-cut one piece swimsuit at the end they are jiggling everywhere.They aren't comically large but they are a good shape for their size.
>>219145062>honeymooooon
>>219145126One of the coolest line deliveries of the entire series, Del Toro rules.
>>219093890Octopussy was the 1st Bond film I ever saw, so I have a soft-spot for it. The banister slide with the Sa vz. 58 V is one of the best scenes in the whole Bond series.
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>>219116218>the cake smash at 53:15somebody needs to make a webm of this. maybe slowed down.
>>219144735>Craig is not and never will be a real Bond. It's obscene that his tenure as Bond is the longest everCorrect.
>>219145798With the Bond theme playing over it. Outrageous scene. Love it. Thanks for posting it.
Vesper Lynd>other bond girlsdon't care which movies are best
>>219146338I really, really hate Casino Royalez it's my least favorite film in the entire series by far, but... I have to say, I find Eva Green more attractive than any other Bond girl. It's a shame she was wasted on such a shitty movie
>>219146437Domino mogs herAnd literally both of the licence girls mog herI will admit I like eva for her eclectic filmography though
>>219146437she's incredibly mid, and her "beauty" is 1000% carried by eyeliner and eyeshadow. if you see pictures of her without that (or minimal amounts of it) she gets MOGGED by most of the other bond girls, even the 60s and 70s ones.
>>219093569It's Roger Moore so it can't be the best
>>219143752this, objectively
>>219146610>>219146615I'm a footfag and I'm just into her feet, most Bond girls do not have very nice feet. She is an exception, and cute feet plus nice boobs is a rare combo.Obviously plenty of other Bond girls had prettier faces
>>219146615>even the 60s and 70s onesImplying those weren't the hottest.
>>219146735>im a footfag and thats all i care aboutthen lead with that then, retard. you want to blog about it, fine, but lead with such a key detail so we can properly ignore you and not bother taking you seriously.
>>219146615She has a nice rack but yeah I kinda hate her flat eyebrows
>>219144735Based, Craig Bond is Bond if made by Americans. Lacks any charm, looks like a shabby retard, spends most of his time shooting ARs and shotguns instead of spying around with a suppressed gun. Also they straight up stole from Austin Powers with SPECTRE keeeek
>>219146825Also>His most iconic gadget moment involves a radioA fucking radio
>>219146777those old babes like goodnight and amasova, with the crooked, sunken eyes.
>>219147006Idk Tatiana is pretty hot
>>219146929>His M is a whiny bitch who hates his ass (I know she was in previous Bond movies but she pales in comparison to for instance classic Connery M)>His Q is a literar queery faggot who lacks the seriousness of early Llewelyn Q or the comedic skills of later Llewelyn Q>His Blofeld isn't just related to him, he's a rando guy and isn't creepy nor strong and capable of throwing hands>He retires and gets replaced with a BLACK QUAAN YAAAAAS>His gadgets are Mission Impossible tier shit>His Bond theme is just loud blaring trumpets instead of the classic stealthy muted guitar (classic Bond only has a loud theme reprise when he does epic shit, normally he has more subdued music because he's a spy)>No memorable villains>No memorable allies>No memorable moments>Fucking dies at the endCraig Bond is the equivalent of Dial of Destiny Indy
>>219146615>carried by eyeliner and eyeshadow.Possibly, as are many women. Still in Casino, playing Lynd, she was a 12/10.
its so funny when sometimes bond is basically forcing himself (consensually) on a girl, and other times the girl is throwing herself at him and he's like "well... if i must, i guess. for queen and country..."
>>219147162Don't forget>That annoying tension building tune that's just the string department playing the same note really fast 5(beats)x4 times, resting, and then playing the same note 5x4 times https://youtu.be/3v47Q-CZMuc?si=S3kmfELvkrCsYs0EAnd it's in like 3 of the movies or something
>>219147388This is literally Mission Impossible music lmaoCompare this to something like From Russia With Love's soundtrack, even the intense moments sound elegant with violins and extravagant percussionMeanwhile this is Zimmer-tier slop
>>219144798>>219145092Carey Lowell was one of the most beautiful women ever imo
>>219147584She must have been something to turn Richard Gere from gerbils
>>219147584usually beauty is mutually exclusive to cutenessbut shes effortlessly cute https://youtu.be/OBjEeqjRglo?t=40
Best bond: ConneryTop 3 films: Goldfinger, Goldeneye, LALDTop 3 songs: LALD, YOLT, Living DaylightsBest girl: pic related
>>219147876Imo Goldfinger is still the best Bond movie theme beyond Dr. No's perfect use of the main theme for the intro. The other Bond movie themes fail to make me feel like Goldfinger's does
>>219093569this is considered one of the worst ones
>>219148089>consideredYeah, by plebeians.
>>219135724There is also the bit where Bond fools her by killing the guy he's impersonating, then simply swapping their wallets over and her immediate reaction is>holy shit you just killed James BondI think it's a fun scene but she's always been kind of gullible.
>>219136639>Spectre was their attempt at a "fun" bondGod, that's depressing. Spectre is by far the most tepid Bond movie I've ever seen. Even the car chase was dogshit.
>>219148899Craig Bond is the opposite of fun, he literally cannot be fun because his whole schtick is "Bond but with le tacticool Tom Clancy realism!!1!". Talented writers would struggle to make that fun, let alone the DEI faggots they chose to actually write the films.
>>219144689>whoa blofeld is actually bond's brother whaaaat?I still can't believe they stole a fucking Austin Powers plot device.
>>219148149Well no. This is a pretty dumb one
>>219143690You Only Live Twice. The song, the japanese babes, the volcano footage. It's perfection.DAF is up there too.
>>219149252Btw didn't they say they struggled to write Bond because they thought Austin Powers ruined Bond films?
>>219149309I seem to remember them saying something like this back in the day. It's stupid, because that's like saying In Like Flint ruined Bond, or Spaceballs ruined Star Wars.Imagine admitting you can't make a better movie than your own parody.
>>219147162>No memorable villainsOnly disagree with this one, Le Chiffre was memorable as fuck but only because Mads Mikkelsen carries the entire movie.
>>219150523I remember thinking Silva from Skyfall was good, at least for the first half, but he's not really a "mastermind" so much as just incredibly lucky that all of his insane plans actually line up. He had the physical deformity I guess, but it really only comes up once.On the other hand Le Chiffre actually had reasonable plans for the most part, it was just when Bond started foiling his shit that he went for the hail mary casino play.
