Why can't Americans animate?
the joke is that invincible is animated in north korea
JJK production infamously has crazy working conditions to the point where the staff revolted during season 2, which has insanely high, movie-tier animation every episode. Basically Glorious Nippon breaks the "good fast cheap" triangle by just not paying animators much and making them work crazy hours lmao
Shareholders. The green line must go up. If profit does not increase exponentially, cuts must be made.
I read somewhere that an entry level position for an animator at a japanese studio is between 5-10k a year, and senior animators earn 20k a year.With those kinds of wages your budget is smaller overall. Burgers working for any studio/corpo throw a fit if they can't spend 90% of the day sending memos to each other and drinking smoothies and cappuccinos.
>>219123310thread should have ended here
Half of American companies are just adult daycares for white women and minorities. The HR and Diversity departments get expensive.
>>219123207because american animation spends 99% of their budget hiring celebrities for voice acting
>>219123540This, JK Simmons alone is probably half the budget
>>219123427you know why
>>219123506
>>219123207$1million for the ridiculous celebrity and 'celebrity' voice actors and 'voice actors'$1million for various administrators and union dues$450k directly into Seth Rogen's pocket$40k for the wrap party$10k for the actual fucking show
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the anime has a lot of post effects and chooses their moments to put in any actual animationlots of establishing shots, lots of shots of the person being spoken to, lots of panning up the back of the character who's speakingthey tried this trick when The Simpsons Movie came out. the anime they compared to too was all shaky cams, lens flares, and falling leaves
>>219123866this is one of the things that bothers me the most. just change out the VAs. the simpsons voice actors make like $640k an episode. what in the fuck
>>219123207domain expansion. GATEKEPT INFLATION
>>219123207most of invincible's budget goes to its celebrity voice cast
>>219123310Also outsources their work to Philippinos for peanuts worth of wages
>>219124533Came here to post this. Some budget mismanagement and money laundering are also possible.
>>219123506Why is every single man named>James HillBut every single woman is named>Jaquantivia Smith
>>219123207both look awful lol.Demon slayer is right there to tell you, are zoomers mentally ill? or so devolved they dont have comparison skills?
>>219123385She's giving me the ick
women are simply too good at being employees. you want someone caring, submissive, non confrontational and women do that naturally. every fucking office i've been to is dominated by women for just this reason
>>219123207Far left unions stifle talent.
>>219124127Extremely long running shows like The Simpsons can't be helped while Invincible had no reason to hire celebrities over much cheaper professional VAs in the first place
females in the workforce.
>>219123207>AmericansIt's Japan vs Korea
>>219123385Cat Ear Yakuza Man is based. The other 2 are SIMPS>>219125117shes a user.
>>219123506Companies today are stacked with corpo mercs that don't care what project they're working on as long as they keep their bay area job and benefits. They also don't know the first thing about the field they're in. They just racked up enough "experience" doing the same nothing job for years and years so they automatically get hired for the next similar project.99% of these jobs are "senior assistant of the supervising person of two remote teams that need to color-coordinate their memos about setting goals". They're just doing busywork and as long as one or two real workers do their job the whole division looks like it was productive.
>>219123207It's called fraud anon, by now it should already be obvious.
>>219123506jeanell and gennean look like they could have been on gdp
>muh working conditionsRetards too stupid to realize every jjk 3 episode was made in 2023.
They unironically spend $1M per episode on voice acting
>>219123207western artists go to liberal art schools and learn calarts because it's easy to do
>>219123385I hate women so muchI want to gut them out
>>219127566Problem?
>>219127613
>>219127683
>>219127713I never wanted a nuke over america as much as I do now
>>219123601Don't forget the korean guy. He's been doing how many years of TWD? The time he's put in alone, guarantees him a certain paycheck
>>219123207Japanese animators are worked to the bone pulling 16 hour days and sleeping in the studio for the privilege of being an animator, all the while getting payed less then a Japanese mc Donald's employee
>>219123506this seems like that Key and Peele football names skit, but with women in HR
>>219123207No budget forces people to be creative. Kiyoshi Kurosawa's Cloud has some of the best "people looking at monitor" acting so far. Totally moving the story along and who they are in society. THrowing money at everything makes them lazy. Acting becomes pulling stunts like Punk'ed or worldstarhiphop level stunting.
>>219127861tbqh they're almost all exclusively perverts through and through and get off on drawing cute characters do cute things and/or spazout shounen fighting
>>219125765you vastly over estimate the amount of pull JK Simmons has lol. Invincible got lucky because it was an incredibly popular comic written by the guy who did Walking Dead, which is an incredibly popular and lucrative TV show. Invincible was first project Kirkman did with Amazon MGM, there was no delay, or fight to get it made.
>>219127925People who work 18 hour days and get paid nothing or not perverts they are nothing at all they're barely alive.
>>219128044You could’ve just said Japanese
>>219126387>handicaps your company
They suck at everything their American characters are inferior to Anime characters
>>219123310They both primarily outsource, as far as I know, so that doesn't explain much. Western companies aren't known for their deep humanitarian concern for quality of life and quality in third world labor.
>they don't know that everything in late stage capitalism is just varying degrees of money laundering schemes
>>219123207intimacy coordinator fees
>>219127925Completely irrelevant
>>219123506i wonder if any of them can read at a high school level or above.
>>219123207Hint: one is funded by soulless jews as jewish brainwashing
two opposites. because of all the unions, producing anything in the US costs a lot of money. meanwhile, the japanese get paid in peanuts to be overworked to death.
>>219129005Sometimes they even get set on fire for no reason.
>>219124127>the simpsons voice actors make like $640k an episode. what in the fuckIf they can afford to pay the voice actors that much per episode, imagine how much the producers/execs are making on top. It's like how they apparently paid RDJ $100-million to appear as Dr Doom in the next two Avengers flicks, obviously they crunch the numbers and decide it's worth it since they expect the movies both make a couple billion each at the box-office.
>>219123207Lot of it has to do with Japan being objectively poor
>>219123207It's illegal here not to hire women
>JJK>Invinciblemfw I dropped both. JJK this season and Invincible in S2
>>219123207Anime costs less because studios tend to hire far less people than animation studios in other parts of the world, not to mention that, anime industry is notorious for biohazard-level working conditions that make Hollywood look dignified by comparison. In fact, just look at what MAPPA is/was known for.Also, American animation is done in California so they're union-based.
>>219124822black women are the real problemmale blacks do assimilate
>>219126387she looks handicapped
>>219123207
>>219127613she must have disgusting feet
>>219127925>they are based and hard workingyeah
>>219123540Japanese VAs are famously the most paid role by a massive margin as well. The main difference is that that it's their main job and they're very good at it instead of celebs brought in for name recognition to replace people that are actually good. There's a long list of reasons why the American animation industry is dead and this is just one of them, but it's disappointing to see how much better voices were 30 years ago or more.
>>219123207Hollywood accounting probably doesn't exist in Japan. Or atleast they have a variation that doesn't have to inflate budgets
>>219123207Japs are paid pittance. The way they treat animators over there borders on slavery lmao
>>219123506Females are specialized for childrearing. That is the extent of their cognitive light cone. Beyond it, by definition, they behave cancerously. Exceptions to this lie almost exclusively within a small portion of highly neuro divergent females.
>>219129491Not true at all. Their salaries all depends on projects they work on and their seniority. While voice acting is a respectable profession in Japan, it has historically ALWAYS been a low-paying industry. Ranma's voice actor is the highest-paid voice actress in Japan with a salary of 70 million yen ($460k) and she made almost all of her fortune from Pokémon and the next two highest-paid voice actors earn drastically less than her; Goku's voice actress makes 40 million yen ($260k) and Vegeta's voice actor makes 30 million yen ($200k).Very few voice actors in Japan get their income from voice acting alone like Ranma and Goku's VAs do. That's why they have music careers and blog or stream in their own YouTube channels or in some Japanese streaming site as a side hustle. They're not rich like most people think they are, you won't survive at Tokyo just by voicing late night anime shows alone. Yuri Lowenthal earns more than any Japanese VA does. He has a net worth of $10 million dollars and I assume he made all of his fortune from Ben 10 similar to The Simpsons voice actors who earn a whopping $300,000 per episode. If you do the math, that means each voice actor brings in over $6 million for a full season's work.
>>219123385Japanese men should start killing people
jews steal all the money
>>219130118Unironically, hentai actually pays better than voicing seasonal anime and shounenshit.>Seiyuu receive about 2000-3000 yen per episode. That is roughly $AUD 23-36 at the time of this article. Veterans may receive up to 50000 yen per episode, but this pales in comparison to someone who pursues a desk job and receives promotions and benefits.>Some seiyuu even turn to adult series or hentai as -- believe it or not -- it pays higher than regular anime. Many create an alias in order to earn enough to pay off their rent and electricity bills. For example, Itou Shizuka (Hinagiku @ Hayate, Haruka @ Amagami SS, Wilhelmina @ Shana) is also known as Misaki Rina and lends her voice to visual novels and H-anime. Similarly, Imai Asami (Kurisu @ Steins;Gate, Chihaya @ iDOLM@STER, Yuuzuki @ Kiss x Sis) is also known as Eriko Toyama and Keiko Horikoshi.>One episode may take anywhere from one hour to several hours to record. If it is a dialogue-heavy episode or series (e.g. Katanagatari, ef, Spice and Wolf), you may either receive a slightly higher pay or none at all depending on your talent agency. Yes, that could possibly mean you will have to say ten times more lines than a side character but still receive a similar income for your efforts.
>>219127613I'm not even 30 and this would put my back our of commission for a week because of how much damage I've done to it via manual labour.
>>219128364That is NOT my Chen
>>219123506KEK
>>219123701Does it involve The Zucchini?
>>219123207most of the jap budget is spent on animationmost of the american budget is spent on the celeb VAs
>>219130288Breed the cat child
>>219123207like 90% of invincible's budget goes to actors doing vo
>>219123506Even in the army they've had the equivalent except its called an equal opportunity officer, and yeah a disproportionate are black but some white guys do it. Its interesting though the army has held the standard that racism works both ways for decades, its kind of surreal having a black guy explain it.
>>219128364Sad but true. Movies, nasa missions, sports, art... what a clown world, friends
>>219125117Not her problem
>>219130675What with the zoomers doing these spastic dances with cringe text on top?Fuck me there's nothing i want more than a pointless war in the middles east for these retards to die in.
>>219123385God what a nasty pig
>>219123207Don't Jap animaters work for why less then American animaters? Don't most American animaters live on the west coast?
>>219126387>HandicapperSo she swings a police baton at your kneecaps for the sake of diversity?
>>219130583It's a surreal job. I went to EOL because I got bored and wanted to see what the fuss was about and man was it retarded. I only really learned that the EO program can absolutely be abused by Soldiers and there's no counter to it, and the only reason why it isn't abused more is because Soldiers hate reading the regs.
>>219129357is this from Newgrounds?
>>219127613Funny how there are NEETs here who are essentially doing the same thing
>>219130675>Women are just generally more stupid Way to prove that man wrong. You go girl. Slaaaay.
>>219130675>”buy your own drinks, I’m not your pay slave.”BASED
>>219123385Imagine being one of those people actually working while she films this
>>219129357this has to be fake
>>219131248been there.managers and females fucking around for 30 mins while calling people from the back to help with customers in the meantime.that same day hours later me and two other guys briefly exchanging work-related information in passing get "okay guys break it up and get back to work" from a manager
>>219131288it's all like this.minutes of dialogue where only mouths and background smoke are animated with more than one frame, people floating up and down slightly but otherwise a still image
>>219125001It's weird seeing jjk get praise but I guess invincible is just that bad so it makes jjk look good.
>>219131316>show even the slightest agitation at this and the manager is suddenly a powerless victim being harassed by an evil insubordinate employee
>>219123540/thread
>>219125157And they will defend the company like they would their family. Bosses are like surrogate fathers for them.
>>219126387>handicapper generaljester reality
>>219123310slave labour strikes again
>>219127683I hope she gets hit by a truck
All this fucking talk of budget this, budget that, but people don't talk about how it's a huge difference in talent. The people making invincible don't know how to make good animation. You don't have to have a ton of time and/or money to make something dynamic. If Invicible had better storyboards and direction it would go a long, long way but it doesn't. There is no fucking talent involved here.
>>219131848No storyboards or direction will save you from the shackles of a cheap Korean studio. You're delusional.
>>219123207The legacy of Invincible will be a lesson on hiring overpriced hollywood actors instead of real VAs, as well as the carelessness of those who have no genuine passion for animation, whether they’re leftoid npcs who only care about their agenda or n koreans who are animating at gunpoint
>>219130675>the chair spinning cuck.
>>219131925If you're going to make something cheap you can at the bare minimum make it look good. The whole thing makes it look like it's done by amateurs. The first avatar series was entirely animated by koreans and how do you think that ended up being? Keep in mind that was how many fucking years ago and I highly, highly doubt they had more """"budget"""" into the animation compared to today. The people making this just don't give a fuck.
>>219123385I hope that the high point of the work of my life is fixing people like this
>>219132265Never hire them in the first place, anon.
>>219129357No fucking way . . . people fucking watch this? This is what all these people are talking about when they act like this is something worth watching?
>>219131095Newgrounds was unironically better.
>>219123540>>219123601>>219123866>>219124127>>219124533I don’t understand why voice actors are paid so much. They’re not really acting, just reading a script. It doesn’t seem like a job that requires much education, just the ability to read.
>>219133927The should be paid as people who record audiobooks, if audiobooks were just the dialogue part
>>219131848A common plot point in Jap movies is the manga artists don't just draw well, their characters are compelling page turners. Too many people want to make it, they can't just draw pretty pictures.
>>219123207Because they made Americans too miserable and (((ceos))) are too expensive yet useless
>>219131126Yeah but we don't ruin other people's lives and we are in our house, LMAO
>>219127613Little by little some of those women are admitting traditional life was better, like it or not being trapped inside and office sounds hell, at least before she could whatever she wanted in her own house all morning
>>219123207How can gaijin even compete?
Japan got all the good asian slaves animators so Americans have to deal with the rest
>>219127925And that's based, and now yids want to make them add diversity and they are having a meltdown in twitter kek
>>219134166How the fuck can they survive on $500 a month?
>>219134222Living cost in Japan is really cheap. What then isn't acknowledged is the Japanese pay themselves slave wages to keep things cheap.
>>219123207Go back to /a/
>>219127713one of the best things that could happen to us as a civilization is the total destruction of the idea of pop stars being somehow important
>>219134222Housing in Japan is cheap (even in Tokyo) and they all take public transportation. Between low rent, no car payment, no car insurance, no need to buy gas, and next to no time for a personal life due to working 12+ hours a day, it's doable. Miserable, but doable.
>>219134222Japan isn't a hyperfinancialized economy that tries to turn all living expenses into "investments" that promptly soar in cost due to artificial scarcity mechanisms
>>219134222A popular IP is adapted into anime, movie, etc. Drawing is a basic skill like math for many
>>219123207Japanese animation is ridiculously streamlined and has actual slave wages. Not bullshit western slave wages actual 100 hours a week for 35k a year in a major metropolitan area slave wages That and you know Jews aren't embezzling gorgillions of dollars off of it
>>219123385Not even the Nips work.
>>219123506sounds like cope.at the end of the day, American workers are simply much more expensive than the rest of the world.it's like liberal whining that American workers are in poverty because CEOs are sucking up all the money.
>>219134635Yen carry trade. They live just OK but the standards have dropped since 70s-80s, to have some export competitiveness.
>>219134222Because that's weekly not monthly retard It's still nuts for the labor they put in
America would be a much more peaceful place if more guys got laid.
>>219134817What standards could have possibly dropped? They still live in nice clean houses, take a nice clean train or little car, watch shows with friends, drink, eat, live life. This idea of a "standard" is a Jewish lie. Right this moment we can make life in America far more enjoyable and pleasant, while losing 50% of our incomes. Right this moment. We chase a gay little bag while our real quality of life is dogshit. Our GDP has gone up but I'm not seeing any demonstrable improvement over the 90's.
>>219134922Listen to the fiction they tell us>IMPORT MILLIONS OF FERAL FOREIGNERS AND 3RD WORLDERS OR ELSE THE GDP MIGHT GO DOWN A BIT AND YOUR STANDARD OF LIFE WILL GO DOWN!!Actually no because half of my country is now a dysgenic 3rd world slum. Get it? It's more than the number on the screen. Tangibly, demonstrably, even when the GDP goes up, when the median income goes up, quality can go down.As we speak I have to live out in a suburb because the inner city is too wrecked for me to live or raise kids there. Does Japan deal with that? NO. And yet I make 3x more than their average. As a refugee in my own fake and gay country.
>>219123207Because western animators need their hourly starbucks trip. Doesn't pay for itself.
>>219130951>Only reason it isn't abused more is soldiers are too lazy/stupid to figure out how to abuse it without someone explicitly being told how toAt least 70% of the military isn't in the military to protect and serve anon t. Crayon eater
>>219133927>just the ability to readthat's a rare skill in the US54% of US adults have a literacy below a 6th-grade level
>>219130131This always triggers me because he was dressed as Kira from Jojo Part 4 but everybody saying he was dressing like the joker.
>>219134856What does that have to do with Invincible's shitty animation?
>>219123207Because the zogbots will watch it anyway
>>219123207That budget cope weebs bring up is a load of shit. American cartoons are actually animated in California AND employees there still have better pay rates than animators in Japan. That includes Japanese voice actors too compared to American voice actors who are unionized. American voice actors get paid thousands per episode of course they have a gigantic ego, while Japanese voice actors get paid like 500$ per episode. The simple truth is just that anime is cheap as fuck to produce because of poor working labor.
>>219130675Are post-Sony Vaios so bad that the Japanese use Dells now?
>>219135640>American cartoons are actually animated in CaliforniaAnon, Invincible was outsourced to South Korea, who outsourced to China, who outsourced to North Korea.https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/22/politics/us-animation-studio-sketches-korean-server/American animation is expensive because of Hollywood accounting, AKA money laundering.
>>219123207It is actually pretty low budget, considering Family Guy's budget is like 4 million per episode, and those are 20 minute episodes.
>>219123310Combination of this and Kirkman being an antisocial loser who blows 80% of his budget to get any and every famous actor he's ever been a fan of to work on his project so he can pester them about a potential romantic relationship between them and him.
>>219134166what's going on with those teeth!?
>>219123207pretty anime cost as much as 1 million bucks per episode. still cheaper but it's usually not that cheap.>>219124627AFAIK they outsource mostly to vietcongs and CCP china now.
>>219123207>Why
>>219123506>muh diversenippon studios hires more colourful people and foreigners than any of these corpos. they should all be fired.
>>219129942>pic water linei forgot the equation for this, but the study is saying 40 percent of wahmen are retarded and can never understand gravity or just can't draw a straight line?
>>219137368That's one million for 10 characters
>>219123207Invincible blows all the budget on fancy actor voice acting.
>>219130675whats wrong with the 2nd though?
>>219137523>>219137368they should hire cheapass TV actors or stage people for cape cartoons. no one watches cartoons for hollywood actors. makes their producers look like money wasting morons.
>>219123310>insanely high, movie-tier animation every episodeThen it get fucked by epilepsy filtering
>>219137273those are how normal teeth look without braces on your teenscoloration is also top tier if she didn't whiten them artificially
>>219123385I would actually support a repealing of the 19th amendment, and I’m genuinely not joking. I think it was a mistake to give women rights.
>>219137368Steven Yeun is underpaid compared to the number of lines of the other VA, mark hamill had 3 lines last episode
>>219123207It's legitimately easier to justify paying a celebrity half a million to phone in a cartoon character for a few hours than it is to just found an animation studio that can draw cartoons for youI hate Hollywood
>>219126387Bitch looks like OJ Simpson in a wig
>>219136152Why don’t the Koreans do better?
>>219137368How do I become a voice actor? $75,000 per episode just to read lines? That’s ridiculous, surgeons train for years and get paid the same for actually saving lives.
>>219133927https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftc_Pbhb3IE>just read the lines, no there's no need to act
>>219138084None of those people are voice actor, they are just famous
>>219138084Normal voice actors don't get paid that much. They could've hired leafs (this show's first season was co-produced by a Canadian company) and paid them <$750/episode under a union contract.
>>219123385>one guy got THEIR mom prepare..why not HIS mother? It is a male, isn't it?? stupid fucking whore
>>219123207It seems japanese are in the same boat.
>>219138084It’s $75,000 per episode, dude. 8 episodes, that’s $600,000 total… for reading lines. Yeah, I don’t think surgeons are pulling that kind of money.
Because of their writing systems a hefty number of asians are equipped to learn to draw in a highly efficient way. On the other hand in the west, even cursive writing is not taught anymore.
>>219123385>>219127613>>219130675Im so sick of dancing
>>219138567>dancing in videos>singing/dancing in 90% of all commercials/ads>dancing in movies, TV showsENOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH OH MY FUCKING GOD
Americans barely make anything themselves anymore. Asians do. America buys them and re-sell them. That's what it's been like for 30 years.Or they would push agendas and claim how bad Japanese work environments are and make profits from moralfagging acros the world while ignoring how they use Asian slaves too.
>>219123207>show unionized after 1 season>animation immediately takes a nose divehmmm it's a complete mystery>>219129005>japanese paid peanuts crunch this pussies, no wonder Japanese artists aren't nearly as insufferable. Not to mention no union seniority means actual talent rises to the top faster
>>219138809>those pussies
>>219123207i can't fucking stand jjk's character designs, everyone looks like an ayyy lmao grey alien or has melting faces. even the tucker carlson gaping mouth stare on every character in chainsaw man is preferable
>>219136152It's both. Invincible was produced in California and outsourced to Asia. The creative direction, scripting, voice acting, and pre-production are handled in the California (Skybound) and Canada (Wind Sun Sky). The labor-intensive 2D animation is outsourced to South Korean studios, which is a common practice in the Western animation industry.>American animation is expensive because of Hollywood accounting, AKA money laundering.Conspiracy theories. The simple, boring truth is just that voice actors and American production crew are unionized (SAG-AFTRA/Animation Guild).
>>219123207JJK is slop but Invincible is also slop with ugly Jewish undertones like all modern Western cartoons
animus are cringe and made with slave wages
>>219133927It's because of robin Williams. He was such a hit with Aladdin every exec thought it wasa success because he was an actor so they've been chasing that ever since when it was just because he was robin Williams
>>219138939They shitcanned Wind Sun Sky after season 1. The show did not improve.
>>219123385Why would this enrage someone this much? She's just trying to be cute at some soul sucking corporate job. It is annoying but harmless
>>219138939It’s a fact. That’s how hollywood makes money they rip off investors or launder money
>GAIJINS: JAPANESE WORKERS ARE EXPOLOITED BY EVIL JAPS YOU KNOW???>Also Gaijins:
>>219137273whenever you see an anime character with shark teeth that is what it means
>Here's that multi million western animation project I was telling you about...
>>219129069Japan is objectively one of the richest nations on the planet
>>219130675I genuinely hope this woman is the victim of a crime
>>219130675Those guys sound based. Would grab a sapporo with.
>>219138989
>>219123207Invincible production staff are genuinely evil. Pumping the show with marxist subversion where satan is good, conquest is just lonely, and gender/race swaps up the wazoo. Using north korean slaves to animate stupid filler arcs nobody cares about while Kirkman's TWD buddies siphon gorillions off it. At least family guy or simpsons animators need the job, there commiefornian losers are just parasites.
>>219139787I have a subscription to Crunchyroll and it fucking sucks. The site breaks all the goddamn time, if I were less lazy I’d pirate everything but for now I have to pick my battles.
>>219130675>>219123385>NOOOOO WHITE AMERICAN PIGGU WHORE IS AGITATING MY BASED SLAVE LABOR JAPANESE MENEveryone gritting their teeth and imagining her get murdered is probably just picrel
>>219129942When I first learned about this test, I thought it was about correctly estimating the where the water line would be relative to the height of the water level in the first picture. I'm sure there's some math behind that. I didn't realize that people literally don't understand they just have to draw a horizontal line.
>>219141051I've never gotten such a weird feeling while watching a cartoon as I do with invincible, and I've watched thousands. Something very yiddish/subversive/satanic about it.
>>219123207>150kIt shows.
>>219140121And they have one of the worst economy in the world right now. Which is why it's so cheap to buy things from Japan, lol.
>>219129357>>219137935>>219140016So basically the animators’ jobs is to move pngs around.
>>219132056classic asian man
>>219141447They even had a """joke""" scene in an episode where they made fun of themselves for taking shortcuts while animating.
>>219141513That scene actually came directly from the comics.
I wonder why so much money is burned on expensive actors, when most people have no idea they are there to begin with, and cheaper actual voice actors would do a way better job than these A--listers.I guess this is Seth Rogen's fault, trying to see how much money he can squeeze out of Prime Video. The problem is there's way too little going for animation
>>219138084Become famous. Shit man, voice acting is but a dime, the real money maker? Advertising, just show up on a set, work for one day and you made thousands sometimes even millions. I personally think most celebrities only became famous so they could star in commercials and make easy money.
>>219141292Is this the part where we pretend this looks bad?
>>219142370It doesn't look great by anime standards, but compared to shartvincible it's the Mona Lisa come to life.
>>219123506Just remember that the replacement theory is an antisemitic and racist trope, goy.
>>219141831Not just spending too much on actors, but on actors that often don't even do good performances. There are exactly two big named actors in this show that are pulling their weight: Simmons as Nolan and Goggins as Cecil. Those two are great and the show shines any time either of them is onscreen. But pretty much everyone else in the cast has the worst fucking line deliveries. They might be actors, but they don't know how to do VA work. Like, Paul. The real estate guy that Debbie is dating. Had there ever been a SINGLE LINE OF DIALOG he has had that didn't sound weird as shit, basically emotionless with word emphasis all over the place? He's not exactly a major character, but he's no and extra either. This is a recurring character across multiple seasons and I have no idea how he got the part.
>>219130436You're a sick fuck.I would never suggest removing a little girl's clothes and licking her tiny body all over, nibbling her neck and kissing her adorable little nipples. Only a heartless monster would think about her cute girlish mouth and tongue wrapped around a thick cock slick with her saliva, pumping in and out of her mouth until it erupts, the cum more than her little throat can swallow. The idea of thick viscous semen overflowing, dribbling down her chin over her flat chest, her tiny hands scooping it all up and watching her suck it off her fingertips is just horrible. You're all a bunch of sick perverts, thinking of spreading her smooth slender thighs, cock poised at the entrance to her pure, tight, virginal pussy, and thrusting in deep as a whimper escapes her lips which are slippery with cum, while her small body shudders from having her cherry taken in one quick stroke. I am disgusted at how you'd get even more excited as you lean over her, listening to her quickening breath, her girlish moans and gasps while you hasten your strokes, her sweet pants warm and moist on your face and her flat chest, shiny with a sheen of fresh sweat, rising and falling rapidly to meet yours. It is truly nasty how you'd run your hands all over her tiny body while you violate her, feeling her nipples hardening against your tongue as you lick her chest, her neck and her armpits, savoring the scent of her skin and sweat while she trembles from the stimulation and as she reaches her climax, hearing her cry out softly as she has her first orgasm while that cock is buried impossibly deep inside her, pulsing violently as an intense amount of hot cum spurts forth and floods through her freshly-deflowered pussy for the first time, filling her womb only to spill out of her with a sickening squelch. And as you lie atop her flushed body, she murmurs breathlessly, then her fingers dig into your back as she feels your cock hardening inside again.
>>219142714You are absolutely right, the list is huge and most of the acting in this show is actually TRASH. Simmons and Goggins ok, but everyone else?WHO THE FUCK knows that the old costume making guy is dubbed my Mark Hamill? Why not just hire a random nobody for that?You could change Mahershala Ali for a better actor for 1/10 of the price and it would actually be betterThey paid 100k for Zazie Beetz, and all for what? The character is not only poorly acted, she is fucking hated. This was actually money in the trashGillian Jacobs? Her acting is kinda bad, not gonna lie, a professional VA would be way betterMillions upon millions just on actors, while the animators have to make do with stuff like this >>219137935They couldn't even add a second crow PNG, or add more THREE frames of animation of their wings falling to the side
>>219141292This would actually be solid without that part showing the 3D bridges, I don't know why they included that. Looks janky.
>>219123385women will do anything at work except their actual job
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>>219144249>>219144345Kino
>>219127613God I hate narcissistic people.
I bet more than half of that money was wasted on the voice actors who did the least amount of work.
>>219130288that's Mamizou you god damn phillistine
>>219126387>handicapper generalso she cripples other employees?
>>219123506Gennean looks absolutely psychotic
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>>219137368Isn't Hamill the only actual voice actor with real experience here? Why's he paid the least?
>>219143192I forgive you anon. Based
>>219144600Yeah, that's why it's not his Chen
>>219146157oh fuck you
>>219144724THIS IS HENTAI OR ANIME? NAME?
>>219146224
Japan does at most keyframe and offshores most of it. That is what anime originates from though, a medium where hard work (cheap labour) can close the distance.The exception is maybe Kyoto Animation which is why their work is flawless.
>>219146590Queen's Blade, ecchi anime series
jjk looks like shit, i dont want a cubefest in every fucking show
>>219123207The real answer is that Amazon paid it's celebrity voice actors a lot of money to get this show off the ground. Once it became popular the celebs demanded higher wages to the detriment of the animation budget.
>>219123207Money laundering.
>>219123385>I read somewhere that an entry level position for an animator at a japanese studio is between 5-10k a year, and senior animators earn 20k a year. Yes. It's poverty wages. >With those kinds of wages your budget is smaller overall.Lmao. NO.The Japanese studios just keep a bigger cut of the profits. If you don't agree then you are blacklisted from the industry.Japanese have an absolute death grip on money and profits. Way more than western companies.
>>219147251goated
>>219141459>>219132056What's really fucked up is that I just didn't notice him at first. Blends right in.
>>219127877kek
>>219138939>The simple, boring truth is just that voice actors and American production crew are unionizedDoesn't really explain it. French are turbo-unionized yet french animators not only create better quality but are also much cheaper as well.The real reason is California being the most expensive place to live on Earth now that chinese cities have fallen off in price. Europe is a high tax region yet Hollywood would still rather film there and hire local film crews because they're still 3 times cheaper than the incompetent rainbow hairs in California.
>>219143509>>219142370>>219141292There's 3d in almost all anime these days. Usually they regulate it to background characters. You won't notice it that often but it's always in some layer you're not looking at.
>>219144662>Y'all white bois been a lil too productive lately, and I've got just the zesty nigga to set y'all back.
>>219149070>Europe is a high tax region yet Hollywood would still rather film there and hire local film crewsNot true. Georgia and Atlanta were the number 1 place to film in the USA for the last 15 years. This was done through film tax breaks that Georgia offers. But you are right that California is too expensive to make movies in now. The reason Disney and Marvel are moving to Europe is because UK and Europe panicked. They realized they were losing business and film studios were filming in America (Georgia) so much now. So European countries passed new laws that gave even bigger film tax credits than what Georgia offered. This was done at the cost of lowering the wages paid to film crews in Europe.It's basically a race to the bottom. Which country and state would offer the best deal.
>>219129069The US is, as you call it, nigger-rich.
>>219142714A lot of it seems to be that whoever is doing the direction for the voice actors can't direct for shitAaron Paul is fucking atrocious in Invincible but he did great in Dispatch, I was genuinely surprised
>>219123385Japan jumping through fucking hoops trying to solve the birth crisis problem while overworking and underpaying their workers to the point of almost-literal slavery. smfh
>>219149070>>219149399Guise, the studio films shot in UK since coveed got 35~40% tax credit. INSANE
>>219150842Remember BETTER MAN the robbie williams ape-biopic was shot with almost entirely taxpayer money. KEKED aussies
>>219131786Just to split hairs, it's more like there's just a lot of people who "want to be in the industry" that will subject themselves to that shit before getting burnt out. Sort of like actors really.
this had more care than an episode of Invincible
>all that budget so people can watch a twink make out with a bug
>>219130288honk honk
>>219149399>Georgia and Atlanta were the number 1 place to film in the USA for the last 15 years.You're behind the news. Georgia is a thing of the past thanks to the cost of medical health and other things. Hollywood is moving to the rural UK and Europe to pay less.
>>219123207Because everyone in Hollywood is overpaid commies
>>219139787look man i don't speak japanese i don't know how to pay for nipnong stuff
American animation pts way too much for “celebrities” instead of actual voice actors which they could get for a lot less.
>>219140121No, they have one of the most uncompetitive job markets in all the first world nations. You could make 35K in a year there and live as middle class.
>>219132712yeah i love their horsepussy videos.
>>219153911>actually got jumpscared by the first few framesGod I'm jumpy.
>>219154016LOL
>>219123207Its hard to even watch the Invincible ppt presentation there's no reason to even compare it with JJK this season. I thought the culling game was going to be shit but they're pulling it off.
>>219123207The most recent episode was the most shamelessly bad episode. Like 10 minutes of the episode was just re-used animations of Mark and that Demon dude looking side to side.
>>219141292This is good use of CGI
>>219136152North Koreans animate better than that junk, thats either pajeet or mutt made.
>>219155089it's not.CG in anime is supposed to be a compositing trick to speed up work but ultimately still blend in or be ambiguous.But not even trying to hide it immediately kills immersion.
>>219123207They lack creativy and skill
>>219123207jews, money laundering etc
>>219123207>japanese animation
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>>219159020
>>219158959i wish the west even had a relevant animation industry to shitpost war with, but it's so pathetic it's not even worth talking about.
>>219159076They do but it's CG animation.
>>219158709It is a fast pace part of the whole scene that absolutely blends in, this is a nitpick.
>>219139787Fuck JapsI'm not giving my money to some gook. I'll steal everything
>>219159209>this is a nitpick.Leaving the polygon face toggle on, is a nitpick?
>>219152613That's some powerful herpes
>>219159292Again, it's just one part of the scene, it is fast paced and it's not noticeable unless you start pausing and nitpicking on it.I'd rather have this than have him skating all over the place like they've done in the past.
>>219159170kino
>>219159339idk, even for a zoomer or average person who has no idea what a polygon is, surely they still discern the incongruence with the entire scene, but can't articulate it?
JJK is the most soulless piece of shit I have ever witnessed. It has nothing going for it. A completely generic story about demons that's been done a thousand times, the same boring main character that you see in every other trash shounen, something tragic happens to him and then he ends up getting powers.He gets turned into a demon and then he fights demons. Like how many times have we seen this already? There is some type of school/organization that he becomes a part of and there is other people like him. It's the same story over and over again.Unbelievable. And this is going to be the series that people hype up and say is good? Side characters that are completely bland and didn't serve any purpose other than being background fodder, bad art, etc. Main cast's relationship is incredibly forced to the point I have to wonder if the author has any friends in real life. He does not know what human beings are and has no idea how to write charming people who'd appeal to actual human beings. I mean, imagine actually being a fan of this trash. This is a series catered towards lower level thinkers, individuals who lack the mental capacity to be anything more than a sheep.This series is ripping off so many series, why are these creators so talentless nowadays? I can name so many other series that this pile of trash is ripping off from (Naruto, Bleach, HxH, Uzumaki), why in the world do the most trash manga continue to get animated? These mangaka have no idea what they're doing, there are so many more deserving manga that should be animated but instead some boring generic bottom-of-the-barrel shounen trash catered towards casual losers with bad taste gets animated. Garbage series like JJK are not good for anime, they are destroying the medium as we know it. And the less we speak of MHA and KnY, the better.
>>219123207graft.everyone requires a bribe to do their jobs
>>219160091the best animated anime is always the most soulless slop unless its a movie.
>>219123207Cause everything in America involves massive injections of cash from the Fed. All “production” here is just an excuse to justify more cut rate loans from the Fed that can be sold on to pensions and mutual funds and get that unlimited free money
Even Dragon Ball Super has better animation than Invincible
>>219160192the ussa is a socialist country
>>2191412923d in anime is a fucking plague
>>219123207japan has a huge animation industry, therefore a lot of cheap workers. ameriga has retarded amount of laws and lower animation talent pool so have to pay them higher
>>219137368How come they get paid more than real voice actors? Are people watching the show because they want to hear celebrity voices?
Reze movie saved anime
>>219141051>>219141170>watching Yidd trash in the first place
>>219127613Islam is correct about females
>>219137935I saw better porn animation on newground, made by teenagers, in fucking 2009
>>219162071Imagine the profits you could make if you just don't pay the animators
>113klmao that's less than ONE Invincible VA salary, and that show looked crazy good. This is the money the japs are dealing with
>>219144249kek whenever this show was brought up i've always seen people seething at the fan service but this image convinced me to watch it now
>>219159046this was animated by a westerner, this nigger should never work again, looks like pure shit
>>219158709>>219155089>>219160667Am I the only one, or does anyone else see the parallels between CGI and AI?Basically, the best use of CGI is when it's invisible and it's a cost saving measure.Just like the best use of AI is when it's invisible and it's a cost saving measure.Exact same dealio.
>>219130675>makes a video trying to prove that people calling women stupid are wrong>video is that retarded thing
>>219163105yep this
>>219160091actually there is one unique thing about it. the "powers" are so stupid and convoluted every scene a random woman voice is explaining what is even happening. its so stupid and corny but also kinda entertaining.
>>219123256And it's even cheaper but 90% of the budget goes to transexual dilation stations in Californian offices.Same with western everything. Movies, games, music, cars, dildos. It just isn't profitable to manufacture something in a service based shithole.
>>219142370That looks fucking awful, jesus christModern anime was a mistake
>>219127566>>219123385>>219127613A reminder 95% of women do JACK SHIT at work. The entire economy is a joke, and it's only meant to stop women from having children.Those wages they give those women could just be distributed to the guys who actually work.But that'd mean too many goys have children. And this we can't have.
>>219166011Read Bullshit Jobs
>>219129357AHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
>>219127683>come in >eat>leave
>>219123207only american children and ethnics watch cartoons.
>>219123506That was a horrifying jpg to have enlarged on my 32" 4k monitor. My Lawrd.
>>219127877savedRest In Peace Piper>>219127861what the fuck is a Deedlit
>>219127683>Cute Commute <3
>>219131845I hope she gets laid off and marries a guy with a good job!
>>219130675bro I am fucking wincing in embarrassment seeing the middle aged men working int he background while this fucking retard dances for tiktok... I don't even wanna go to japan anymore because u faggots ruined it. Im going to become obsessed with brazilian knife culture instead.
>>219123385Is she eastern european? Please tell me this thing is not American. Do Japanese people even know the difference?
>>219123385IF you thought white women who want black men are crazy you need to meet white women who want asian men... hory shitto
>>219123367In fact it's illegal for line to not go up. After the Dodge brothers vs Ford in the early 1900s. If an option to increase profits is possible and the CEO/board doesn't do it they can sued for not fulfilling their fiduciary duty. Basically it's legally required for publicly traded companies to enshitify their product until the company collapses. BUT WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT LINE GO UP? ITS GLORIOUS
>>219123207Because American adults don't really watch cartoons in large enough numbers for there to be a market for it. Why can't Japanese animate?
