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misandrist anti-Western propaganda
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>>219130716
my gf unironically said she wants to see it, how fucked am I?
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>>219130716
Everybody knows this, except for the wine aunts and white suburban women who need to have their anxieties fed by the media
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>>219130716

are you referring to the documentary or the manosphere movement?
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>>219130716
only part that Louis got wrong was the part when sneako said Jews control the world
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>>219130716
> misandrist anti-Western propaganda
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>>219130716
It’s a continuation of the British government’s attempt at social engineering by blaming the alarming increases in criminal activity affecting Britain today on an alarmist, fictionalized and hyper-sensationalized version of white toxic masculinity that simply does not exist or cause issues to the extent they portray. It’s essentially a spiritual successor to Adolescence, which was equally hyperbolic. All with the aim of providing a justification for ever increasing control and censorship of online access and content, and so as to obfuscate the actual perpetrators of the issues because it would mean decades of

And they’re putting this content on Netflix in a shameless attempt to hide the fact that this is literal government agitprop.
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>>219130955
*decades of immigration policies that promised a better and more prosperous society were a compete and utter failure
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>>219130716
Misleading poster. From my anecdotal observation migtow/manosphere guys are all under 6 feet tall. I’m not even saying they are wrong about women, but letting it become an all consuming concern in life means you’re probably 5’7”-5’-9”. Actual manliness would be indifference, which is probably more natural if you don’t share sight lines.
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>>219130955
Yeah, pretty much.
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I'm fine with dying a virgin
get over it cuz they ain't 'reforming' society and issuing you your sexbot gf's
no one cares about 'mens issues', if you're too ugly to get laid you're just supposed to be a stoic cog in the machine til death
happy monday
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>>219131100
Louie towers over all the people he interviews in the doc.
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>>219131100
Why is Britain so fucked up man
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>>219131150
Must have a lot of guilt from owning most of the world at one point that it's fucked with them so much they feel the need to be super-spade altruist
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Jimmy Carr unironically has the solution to the incel manosphere problem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IJPSqc_mWE
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>>219131219
Thanks for the link. Never seen his serious stuff before, he seems to actually be a good speaker
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>>219130716
>manosphere
More like virginsphere, it mainly consists of socially inept virgins
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>>219131219
Not watching this crap. What's the solution?
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>>219131362
don't be a cunt.
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>>219130716
With this documentary, adolescence and other shows, god knows how many PSAs it seems that the UK is pretty eager to confront the rise of violence, abuse and general sexism against women in the UK. But how come they only ever go after the manosphere or incels while completely ignoring the, by far, largest factors causing the rise? Really makes you think, huh?
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>>219131362
He said it's two things
>be a gentleman
>be a mensch
So yeah basically don't be a dick, which is like saying "get over it" to solve a problem. Technically it works but it's not great advice.

HOWEVER he goes on to say more about the importance of having positive masculine social circles. Men needing other men to keep them in check, for example.
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>>219130716
"manosphere" is nothing but closeted faggots and browns
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>>219130955
This
All the therouxfags on this board that constantly shill him are deluded and pathetic retards
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>>219131629
>men keeping other men in check, like a sphere of influence
>wait no, not THAT sphere
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>>219131427
because they feel good for addressing it by using the largest demographic by which they can profile, while also reminding people that profiling by any more specific metric is wrong.
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my money dont jiggle jiggle
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>Louis got brutally mogged in the punching game
>it actually affected him when HS said Louis couldn't protect his family
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>>219130955
Interesting. Enjoy the ban.
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>>219131729
It has to be in real life
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>this thread again
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The manosphere got the world plunged into an energy crisis so yeah I think it should be opposed
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>>219131858
yeh because that works out well for radical islam and their males.
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>>219130716
>>219131427
I don’t give a fuck about the whole manosphere thing but it’s insane the lengths the British government will go to blame their current predicament on anything besides the obvious. Yeah, being a total dork isn’t gonna get you laid but let’s not pretend somebody who idealizes Andrew Tate is to blame for the rise of violence in Britain lol. Also, Louis Theroux literally said Gyms should be banned so I wouldn’t take anything he says seriously, dudes a spaz.
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Remember when you all worshipped this fag because he made that doc seething that Israel conquered the palesitnians?
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>>219131923
Andrew Tate is Muslim and non-western. And these are responsible for the rise of violence in Britain. So that’s not wrong to say
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>>219131219
women are the problem
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>>219131841
Bro he is like 60 and doesn't go to the gym, did you expect him to score closer
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Will you subhumans kill yourselves when your orange god is deposed?
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>>219132168
Yea bro, for sure :)
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>>219130716
It's liberal propaganda.

>>219131219
The cure to toxic masculinity is actual masculinity. The problem is that liberal feminism has gotten rid of proper masculinity.
Get rid of feminism, and everything will fix itself.
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>>219131219
The solution is to kill boomers and jews, deport browns, beat any woman to death if she has had sex with a brown man, import asian women to make up the losses
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>>219131906
Why would you compare yourself to them
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i liked this documentary, i thought he should have gone a bit deeper into their childhoods though because I think that was really the common link. it is also who will be attracted to that sort of content.
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>>219130762
Tell her no because it's misandrist garbage. Unless you do not have the backbone to tell your gf what's what, in which case you are very, very fucked.
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>>219131114
Nochuddy reacts like that.
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>>219131219
Carr seems extremely clueless on these issues but insists on speaking
Most of these brit boomers are extremely out of touch in regard to these things and every time they propose "solutions" it feels like they're desperately scrambling to understand a world that has changed beyond their ability to understand it.
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>>219132504
His advice seems to be a gentleman, to go outside and to have a nice group of friends
What's so bad about that?
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>>219132589
Has anyone got that tweet of leftists purposefully not understanding things to make discourse impossible?
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>>219132504
he's right though, most of the 'toxic masculinity' retards on the internet never properly socialise with people in the real world, which is pretty awful for your mental health and development when you're younger especially.
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>>219132634
Its amazing how obvious it is now
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>>219132634
It's called sealionimg and they do it so instead of destroying the flimsy points they're making, you have to continually explain things until you get exhausted and leave. They're evil and disingenuous and will celebrate your murder and mock your widow. Total libshit death.
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>>219132648
You sound a like a reddit boomer
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>>219131362
>le touch grass and le talk to le women
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>>219132504
I've lived in Bongland for 3ish years now, and the ones who are the most insufferable are the ones who are educated just enough that they believe they have the moral highground, without ever leaving the fucking island in the first place ( unless it's at their favorite vaca spot, shithole Spain ) They do the same retarded shit here that they do in mainland europe. The homeless bitch and moan about the church fucking up their life despite never setting foot in one, and in their defense some of them did probably get diddled... but they still have a hard on for the BBC ( kek ) despite that being jimmies domain. They are afraid of any kind of meaningful conversation that might be viewed as " extremist " in nature. And finally they are addicted to American politics, but have such a poor system in place they forget about how bad their corruption is, though its the same '''fingers''' in different pies. The muslim situation here is so bad, they actively side with Israel due to how bad its gotten with propaganda. I feel most sorry for guys who are 70+ cus EVERY single one of them I talk to, its the same fucking story over and over again " All the men are pussies now, you cant earn enough for a house, gov is greedy and locking up nans for protesting " Funny enough, the proles and the educated middle class have something in common, their ignorance and how blind they are.
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Still crying that your internet daddies were humiliated, huh?
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>>219133070
Have sex
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/tv/cels hate Louie because he says the truth, no holds barred. His documentaries dunking on the WBC and AF are kino.
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>>219130716
>anti-west
That's this guy's whole schtick soup to nuts.
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>>219131770
it folds!
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>leave my closet faggot manly men alone
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>>219132634
I understand you think he's disconnected from the issue he's talking about, i'm just asking why, what's your reasoning?
It's pretty clear that people don't give a fuck about going outside anymore
No need to jump into muh leftism and muh rightism
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>>219130762
Oooh, you're screwed.
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>>219132669
it's not fully conscious behavior, that's why it was so hard to see it. They are like animals, driven by base evil instincts.
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>>219133219
I dislike Louis because he outright said that instead of going to the gym you should just work construction, which is exactly what a limp wrist dork would say, dudes never worked a hard day in his life.
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>>219130716
BBC is an arm of Davos forces. Reread the Georgia Guidestones inscription. They justify why countries are destroyed to prop up BRICS.
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>>219130955
pretty much this
I'd add although it's almost certainly malicious at the higher echelons, for the most part it doesn't stem from malice, a substantial chunk of 30+ year old brits (and especially those in government, the civil service, and media higher-ups) genuinely, wholeheartedly believe that this "manosphere" nonsense is one of the biggest threats facing the UK right now. They're deeply, deeply out of touch and retarded. A good example is how many of these people (Who I've personally interacted with) will cite Andrew Tate as if he's the antichrist and somehow still a prominent figure when anyone younger than 25 knows the guy is already a complete joke that nobody except a tiny amount of chronically online wackos takes seriously. But they'll cite him as if he's having the same influence of young british guys that hitler had on weimar germany
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>>219135013
*the same influence on
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>>219130716
Its just woman glazing propaganda material. the foundation for why men are so misogynistic is because women are too out of control. if you are tired of men being assholes, consider stop being useless cunts, or temptresses.
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>>219130955
based and ricupilled
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>>219137064
>Women are out of control!
>What does that mean, anon?
>THEY OWE ME SEX!!!!
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>>219130762
Let her watch it by herself if she's so desperate. Don't cuck out.
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>>219135013
>>219133064
Pretty much this, they ignore what the actual problems are and virtue signal how progressive they are for Israel.
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>>219131629
>He said it's two things
>>be a gentleman
>>be a mensch
>So yeah basically don't be a dick, which is like saying "get over it" to solve a problem. Technically it works but it's not great advice.
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>HOWEVER he goes on to say more about the importance of having positive masculine social circles. Men needing other men to keep them in check, for example.

That's essentially like saying nothing.

Men are regarded as dicks no matter how they act. And the men who are actual dicks are more successful.

"Positive masculine social circles," means what? Hanging out with a bunch of cucks who tell you you're bad. That's about it. That's not going to get anyone hired, promoted, laid, or married. It's just more of the same bullshit.
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>>219133064
>All the men are pussies now, you cant earn enough for a house, gov is greedy and locking up nans for protesting

All true btw
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>>219131150
you have school shootings mate
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>>219130762
Just watch it with her and be her counter points. Just don't be an annoyed faggot about it though "oh har har this dipshit doesn't like a mans right to hammer his jaw what the FUCK"

She needs something to watch with you to find out that you are the man for her dude this is lowkey extreme shit test opportunity so make sure you come correct with good facts but also stand your ground and don't act embarrassed to be a man AND DON'T ACT HATEFUL TO WOMEN EITHER.

Just state your case on good takes chances and let most of the jokes slide.
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>>219137771
>anon thinks playing her game is a good idea.
Women don't want men who participate in shit tests. They want a man who's assertive enough to shut them down.
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>>219133064
Fun fact Israel has never been the aggressor in any war, nor have they made any Hollywood or UK movies.
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>>219137973
How I meant shittest is more like something she wants to do to you to make sure you are for her or not. Except its lovely that she is setting it up in public without any deception right? So if anon passes the test now then its out of the way for good. She will be his ride or die.

She will shittest him randomly anyway that is how women are, they want a loyalty test.
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>>219132669
>ifunny watermark
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>>219138108
Are you 23 years old?
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>brown mutts selling crypto scams
>the West
Burn it down then
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>>219138161
Under 20 id guess
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>>219130716
Funny how nobody here wants to talk about how the documentary shows how insecure and scammy the manosphere influencers are with how the promote financial investment guidance that just makes you lose money while they take a cut of your transactions, how they on one hand claim to promote traditional masculinity but then clearly act differently in their private lives like the one guy promoting onlyfans girls and making money from collaborating with them and having endless casual sex with different women, or how one of them literally spent a year fleeing abroad to escape the law after a car crash.
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>>219138209
23 is the absolute limit of the age that a man should be thinking like this anon. That's why it's my guess.
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he is STUNNED at the manosphere a threat to us normal people. even the poster is biased. not a real documentary. liberal fluff for faggots
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>Narcissism is actually super masculine guys, also women opening their legs to you decides your value as a man!
>selfishness is the pinnacle of western culture! Christianity just held us back!

You guys are just libtards with a different coat of paint.
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>>219138355
you're just a retard with an extra chromosome.
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>>219138418
you are brown
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>>219130762
my sister said those guys reminded her of me
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>>219132302
/thread
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>>219138355
I realized half a decade ago that tradcels aren’t crusaders trying to restore the dignity of Western culture and that the leftist dismissal of the entire movement as being sexually frustrated dorks has been correct all along.
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>>219138126
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>>219138126
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the browning of 4chan has never been more apparent than seeing the number of threads seething about this new documentary
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I'd never heard about this incel stuff until I saw Adolescence recommended in a Guardian thinkpiece, but now I've watched one fictional tv show I feel qualified to warn everyone about this urgent moral panic. Tell your kids to respect wahmen before it's too late.
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>>219131128
why not get a whore
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>>219138126
>not having a script that adds iFunny™ watermarks to all your images
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>>219138760
>browning

i'm freakin sick of everyone pinning this on us. white liberals aren't seeing brown people at least, they see whites too so get with the program. whoever made that tweet sees a white person so deal with it dude
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>>219138220
Already been done better in countless sloptuber video essays.

This documentary is pointless when the subjects willingly livestream every waking moment. It's actively harmful when you consider their business model is to shamelessly self-promote these blatant scams to as wide an audience as possible. All he's doing is giving them more content to farm.
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>>219130716
After watching this I just feel bad for the male influencers and manosphere, they're all dealing with crippling insecurities and hiding behind this 'I'm a tough man who is rich and sleeps with countless hot women' facade to cover for the fact they're really just children crying for daddy to come home.
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>>219139244
>they're really just children crying for daddy to come home.
Aren't we all, anon?
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>>219131128
>no one cares about 'mens issues'
Which is funny because these people push the 'trad lifestyle' which means that, as a man, you're not supposed to talk about your feelings, take any sort of anxiety medication, cry, go to a therapist, or anything for your mental or even physical health. You're just supposed to man up and push it way down and ignore it.
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>>219138984
the people making these threads are 100% browncels.
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>>219131219
>>219131301
Pathetic samefag shill.
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>>219139244
yeah that misdirection was good. but that punchline was weak. if you are going to dunk on men, then at least put down the laundry basket.
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>>219131629
>Technically it works but it's not great advice.
What?
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>>219139646
No misdirection, no punchline. Anybody who isn't insecure in their life can see the desperation coming off these men a mile away. You know who doesn't have to make social media videos about having sex with lots of women? Men who actually have sex with lots of women. Who don't have to make countless videos about how 'they don't give a fuck'? People who genuinely don't give a fuck. They're just the modern version of that kid on the playground saying they have a girlfriend you just don't know her because she goes to a different school. The Arab guy on the doc looked like he was about to burst into tears when Theroux talked to his girlfriend and got pissed when the receptionist was answering Theroux's questions without him being there. Insecurity.
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>>219137994
>Bombs American naval ship
>Countless false flag operations
>Every western politician kissing some sand nigger wall as if Jesus himself was trapped within it
> Never been the aggressor

Both of these groups are going to be exiled in less than 100 years. And this time we have the tech to make sure you cant slither your way back in, no matter how many generations pass :3
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>>219130716
common sense anti-grifter propaganda
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>>219130716
>I'M ASSHURT
everyone already knew that
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>>219139646
what he said is self-evidently true to anyone that grew up with a father.

say hi to your mom for me.
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>>219139138
>This documentary is pointless when the subjects willingly livestream every waking moment.

But people aren’t going to waste hours watching that slop when they can watch a concise 90 minute documentary that more effectively shows you what these people are like

>It's actively harmful when you consider their business model is to shamelessly self-promote these blatant scams to as wide an audience as possible.

That’s a ridiculous claim. So what, you should just ignore them? It is not harmful to raise awareness. It’s the complete opposite. The more actual discussion you create about the harmful effects of the manosphere the less they can make content and get clicks when people realise how sad and full of shit those people are
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>>219140128
Yes but that would require a lot of people not to start insulting men in general. Leftists are busy digging their graves every day
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>>219140247
>a lot of people not to start insulting men in general.
Your grandfathers and great grandfathers spent their teens and twenties in hellholes around the world bullseyeing gooks and zipper heads hanging out a helicopter. I think you can handle some mean words on a computer screen.
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>>219140514
Case in point, keep going bro. I know you are incapable of not doubling down
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>>219140537
Why can’t you be a real man? Didn’t pay enough for the online masculinity courses?
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>>219140514
please don't appeal to these manosphere loving chuds with dumbass racism just because you're on this site. you're only undermining yourself and everyone here involved, you're better than this
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>>219140537
What sort of crippling insults are being slung your way, anon, for being a man? What awful things do people say to you in real life? Or is it all online?
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>>219140514
>>219140631
I'm convinced every seething, raging anon I see on here is just one insanely retarded guy. It's fun to work off that assumption.
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>>219131629
>>219137678
I think what he's saying here is technically good advice at the individual level, but the problem is that in order for his advice to work on someone, they'd already have to be a relatively well adjusted, socially capable person, which the whole point of this manosphere hysteria is that a lot of the guys seriously following these figures aren't particularly well adjusted or socially capable

The bigger issue, similar to what >>219132504 says and what I said here >>219135013, is that Carr is missing the forest for the trees here. It's all well and good to tell individual guys to "be better!" but it does nothing to address the societal, structural causes of how fucked up gender dynamics have become. Hell, the manosphere stuff is basically a nothingburger, it's effectively just a handful of mercenary grifters and lolcows of varying degrees of retardation, the audience of which is mostly kids watching them for shits and giggles and then a very small minority of 20 something year old chronically online midwits with no father figure in their life. You could completely wipe people like sneako, andrew tate, etc from the zeitgeist tonight and absolutely nothing would change, because the problem isn't these specific figures, it's the state society is in where people like them can appear and actually resonate with people. The far, far larger issue is how dysfunctional gen Z's (and once gen alpha mature, Gen alpha's) social and intersexual dynamics are. I was saying this in another thread but the proportion of young men getting absolutely zero bitches is catastrophic, and I'm not saying this from the point of view of "muh men deserve to own women!", I'm saying this from the point of view of "western societies are beginnging to look like the mouse utopia". And this is all without even mentioning all the other insanely bad shit which is going to happen to our world in the near to far future.
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>>219140762
>beginnging
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I find all these documentaries weird because they just end up trying to square a circle

>men shouldn’t listen to these toxic chuds for advice on masculinity
>also toxic masculinity is the real problem
>positive masculinity is basically not doing anything ever other than being a prop to support women
>men are upset they aren’t getting laid with women, this is their fault but also self improvement trends are bad. They should just stop trying to have sex, but also virgin incels are threats to society
>the REAL problem with (issue with men) is how it affects women!
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>>219130716
The part I didn't get was why HS wouldn't allow his son to be gay when he himself is flamboyantly gay?
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>>219140852
I'm going to fall on my sword
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>>219140762
>how fucked up gender dynamics have become.

Maybe men should ask why women don’t want to be with them anymore instead of whining how unfair it is that women don’t just beg any man they see to marry them at first sight
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>>219140825
Yet another man who is completely confused as to what masculinity is and plays the victim
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>>219140631
>>219140703
Keep going, i've almost reached supermisogynist level 3
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>>219140825
>>positive masculinity is basically not doing anything ever other than being a prop to support women
The only people who think anyone else thinks this way are the targets for these manosphere grifters
>men are upset they aren’t getting laid with women, this is their fault but also self improvement trends are bad. They should just stop trying to have sex, but also virgin incels are threats to society
Typically if a man can't get laid it is his fault, I've seen men who are one chromosome away from Sasquatch get snizz on the reg. And if the self improvement trends the men are using are these manosphere losers then, yeah, that is bad
>the REAL problem with (issue with men) is how it affects women!
If the ideas the men are pushing are how women should just stay home, clean, cook, and spit out babies while the man goes out and sleeps with other women (in this case, prostitutes) and women should never aspire to have a career or even a mind of their own then, yes, the problem is how it affects women.
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>>219140956
If these are the sorts of insults you're claiming are hurting men then you really are just a giant pussy
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>>219140917
yeah see again anon, that's all well and good, but when my society is flagging for every single bellwether of terminal civilisational decline, looking for easy blame-game gotchas isn't gonna help us much. When your house gets broken into by looters because the police don't leave the city centre anymore and the power's been out for four days, do you reckon informing the looters that what they're doing gives you the ick will help much?
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>>219141041
>Typically if a man can't get laid it is his fault, I've seen men who are one chromosome away from Sasquatch get snizz on the reg. And if the self improvement trends the men are using are these manosphere losers then, yeah, that is bad
this is true, but again, you're looking at this wrong. The problem isn't necessarily that women don't want to sleep with ugly losers (they never have), it's that gender dynamics are fucked AND a lot more dudes are turning out as losers. You have to ask why in a structural sense rather than just going "well they should try harder to get laid".
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>>219140825
Imagine for a second that you’re a woman and every man you meet viees and treats you as just a fuckhole they feel entitled to put their dick in and you’re not supposed to have any say in the matter because that makes you a man hating bitch. And also if you ever have sex with men that means you are a dirty whore. Now imagine you’re a father and that’s how every man treats your daughter.
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>>219141193
I blame schools being built exclusively for girls to be successful. 12 years of being made to sit still, shut up, and do as you're told is easy for a girl, rough on a boy. Gives women an overinflated ego, makes men doubt themselves. Like with every other problem in society, it can be solved by abolishing teachers unions and massacring any vaguely left leaning teacher.
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>>219131629
The problem is that anyone pretends to know the answers to life and being a man. Nobody knows the answers and the answers are different for everyone. Obviously shower, eat well, sleep right, exercise, and obey the law but those are ground-level rules taught by age six. Beyond that, it’s just conjecture.
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>>219141193
>it's that gender dynamics are fucked

How are they fucked? Because women have autonomy?
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>>219141193
>it's that gender dynamics are fucked AND a lot more dudes are turning out as losers
That's literally because of the proliferation of the internet. In my day you only had access to the internet for small amounts of the day and 99% of your life was dealing with people in real life. If you were a loser you either got it beat out of you or you managed to figure out on your own that you're a loser and need to fix it. But now we're all wired in 24/7 and these losers are finding countless other losers online who convince them they're not the problem, society's the problem and they don't need to change to fit into society, society needs to change to fit them.
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>>219141270
Oh so men are too weak to follow simple rules? How the fuck are armies a thing then?
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>>219141304
>libshit faggot is really trying not to be disingenuous.
I appreciate the effort, but you need to try harder.
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>>219141338
See
>>219141346
And enjoy your (you), it's all (you) are getting.
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>>219141346
It’s a simple question, anon.
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>>219131629
So classic Gen-Xer nothingness? Thanks.
>erm, I've been polite and understanding toward women, and I definitely haven't been a "cunt". Can I be shown a crumb of respect now?
>What do you mean "no"?
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>>219130716
Is this the Chair Company guy?
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>>219141304
retard, even the leftiest of leftwingers will concede that gender dynamics are fucked, it's like the one thing that all sides of the zeitgeist agree on. The only difference is who is blamed. But the simple fact that
>men and women are now more politically divided than ever and growingly so
>each successive generation is having less sex and fewer healthy relationships at a catastrophic rate
>each successive generation is having more and more mental health issues, largely linked to the internet/social media, and this is substantially affecting how guys and girls interact
>social media algorithms are plastered with genderwar content
>there is a fundamentally antagonistic narrative being promoted by both men and women against the other gender constantly
all these things are bad for society regardless of where you stand politically
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>>219141423
Who isn't showing you respect, anon?
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>>219141270
Okay how about we bring back corporal punishment but just for boys? Or should we just put boys in a class room and lock the door and they can figure out how to study on their own? Or what is the right way to make schools places for boys again? They need gender affirming care in the form of a male teacher complaining they don’t do their homework? Coddle boys until their 18? What?
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>>219130716
>"I WANT MASCULINITY TO END SO EVERY MAN CAN BE A WHINY LIMP-WRISTED BITCH LIKE ME SO I DON'T HAVE TO FEEL INSECURE ABOUT MY TOTAL LACK OF EFFORT!"
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>>219141469
Did you not hear my solution? First we massacre the left leaning teachers, and (you) for being a faggot. What we do after that is not your concern, is it?
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>>219141270
the gynocratic nature of most modern western education systems is nightmarish. If anyone ever tries to argue with you on this, just point out the simple fact that women significantly outpace men at basically every level of education and employment now (for Millenials and younger). Worse exam outcomes, worse class performance, worse university outcomes, worse employment outcomes. There is a 14% point percentage gap here in the uk between how many guys vs girls go to university and you're telling me the system doesn't clearly produce better outcomes for girls?
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>>219137678
These days, it means hanging out with Deano who wants to watch the footie and show you his new overpriced bullshit, or Martin who wants to show you his Jeremy Corbyn tattoo and talk about wind farms.
It's basically impossible to find real men to have any kind of quality interaction with. Our society is too hollow and plastic, and too few people even see this as a problem.
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>>219141488
What's funny is this documentary was more about showing how these hyper-masculine male influencers are really, deep down, whiny, limp-wristed bitches.
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>>219141469
>I'm arguing in bad faith and I actually just want you dead, but YOU should listen to my views in good faith
fuck off
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>>219141536
Or maybe you’re just a pathetic loser who can’t socialise
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>>219141528
Why can’t men pull themselves up by their bootstraps?
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>>219141560
Nothing in the other anon's post suggests they want you dead, anon. See, this is another problem, this victim complex so you can justify to yourself that they're out to get you and be an angry loser
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>>219141528
That's just it. And it's all built on the objectively false assumption that men and women are the same. We aren't and everyone, even the most insane libshit will agree with that (on the grounds that men and women need to be different for troons to even exist). However, society is in a catch 22 over that because, if it acknowledges men and women are different, it necessitates different systems for men and women within that society. Different laws, different roles, different political representation. So we're in an unsustainable twilight zone where society caters to one, but pretends it's serving both.
I think the solution is obvious. We need to kill all leftists who perpetuate the feminist lie of equality of the sexes.
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>>219141445
>Gender dynamics are fucked because
>less sex
>people have disagreements
>people have mental issues

None of this has anything to do with gender dynamics, you’re just listing issues that stem from hyper individualism
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>>219141619
>the other anon
Uh huh, we all believe there's more than one disingenuous faggot desperately begging for someone to take his bait ITT
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>>219141560
Like those were even his views or arguments. He's just chimping out because he's a deranged homo desperate for engagement.
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>>219141458
Literally no one in my life ever, and especially not women.
An average and even kind man is not a respectable thing to be in the modern world. Firstly you're ignored, secondly all of your needs are passed over in favor of woman's and minority needs, and thirdly you're told that you're a problem, you shouldn't be allowed out on the streets because you're bound to hurt someone, and you shouldn't be allowed to speak because it's "mansplaining" or "harassment".
None of that's an exaggeration. That's what my life is. Just waddling around, trying to get by, as other people glare at me, and blame me for atrocities.
No "how are you?". No "you look nice today". No "would you like a job? I have just the thing going". Just being figuratively spat on, every time you dare to place yourself within public view.
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The primary consumers of "manosphere" content are dysgenic autistic losers ie the anons whinging in this thread.
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>>219141560
Come on. If schools can’t teach boys anymore what’s the solution? Put every boy in private boys only school? Or let me guess, you can’t answer and instead just post more psychotic murder fantasies and how you’re a victim.
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>>219141584
where would I go? People tell me to strike up conversations at coffee shops. Have you ever seen this happen? If anything like that was going to happen, it was before smartphones, but surely not now.
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>>219141822
Community college is a good place.
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i'm tired of a british "person" preaching leftwing retardism in a "documentary" tbqhwy
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>>219130762
Next she's gonna ask if you want to open up the relationship (only she gets to see others)
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>>219141773
As a heterosexual white man I will just say this to you: you need to talk to a therapist.
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>>219141867
Literally how is that going to work? I bound into the lecture, and start trying to chat people up?
I don't know what kind of quirky indie movie you're living in, where the world works this way.
Maybe it did in the 70's when you were a kid. I don't know.
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>>219141773
Anon, here's the thing. Everyone is different. Everyone looks at everything differently. The only common denominator in your life is you. If everyone in your life is treating you like that then odds are it -is- a you problem. And, no offense, but from your post you sound exactly like the sort of guy these manosphere grifters look for; someone with zero self esteem who refuse to do anything to change themselves because it's everyone else who's the problem, not me.
>No "would you like a job? I have just the thing going".
This is the literal definition of entitlement. Things aren't just going to fall into your life like that and if this is your genuine line of thinking no wonder you're a miserable sack
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>>219141915
Where is the lie? Show me one person in society saying "actually ease off on the heterosexual white men a little bit. They have a hard time too".
One person, who isn't also being called some kind of evil grifter, and equated to the National Front.
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>>219141907
Like the male influencers have done in this documentary?
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how is it anti western propaganda if it's literally put out by the white west? white people have an excuse for everything like blacks do.
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>>219141950
Fuck off. No one is nice to me.
Telling me I'm entitled when I have nothing is also abuse, and you love it.
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>>219141964
tons of youtube channels and podcasts (including ones that are literally in touch with the current administration in charge of the US), posters here, basically every comment section,
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>>219141822
You can literally start a conversation anywhere. And know that vast majority of them are not going to be the beginning of a magical relationship immediately. Sometimes you just exchange couple of words.
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>>219141964
>"actually ease off on the heterosexual white men a little bit. They have a hard time too"
The people saying we shouldn't have to work 80 hours a week to afford a studio apartment are the ones saying this you just think stupid culture war shit is more important than it really is.
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>>219141528
This. If the school system wanted boys to succeed, it would incorporate a lot more physical activity, a lot more opportunities for competition (posting grades publicly like they used to) and would generally not demonize the things that make men men. As it is, everything masculine gets shoved down and repressed in the current educational system as "bad behavior". Competition is relegated to exclusive teams most men won't make the cut for, sports like dodgeball are softened or removed entirely, any marginally violent impulse is demonized as unacceptable. This sort of thing should be channeled and built into virtuous behavior, but that's not what the system wants because the kind of men this would produce would root out corruption in every system they encountered. Instead they want weak, feminized, passive-aggressive men like this guy.>>219141821
This guy is a threat to no system and will actually fight to keep it around because he thinks he's protecting women from big scary men.
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>>219142005
Right, so the people you hate, and are desperate to shut down?
The people they make scary little documentaries and TV dramas about?
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It's actually just a con to turn young men gay. Think about it.
>they exclusively give shitty advice when it comes to actually finding a decent woman you can start a family with
>they focus on the looks of other men
>they encourage visiting male-only spaces
I respect the hustle, but is it really worth it in the long run? Wouldn't downloading a gay dating app be much easier?
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>>219141996
>no one is nice to me
I've only exchanged a little bit of dialogue with you and you sound like a cunt so maybe that's why nobody's nice to you
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>>219141964
You’re saying it yourself. That wasn’t very hard.
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>>219141916
No, you fucking retard, you enroll in classes. CC is cheap. That's where I met my wife when I was 26 and she was 19. This was 3 years ago.
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>>219142016
When has Zach Polanski or Ash Sarkar said what I just said there?
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>>219142035
>Right, so the people you hate, and are desperate to shut down?
this was my first post, nice headcanon retard
>NOOOO THOSE DUN COUNT
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>>219141996
>have nothing is also abuse
I'm so abused!
And feminine, anon, don't forget feminine!
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>>219140128
>But people aren’t going to waste hours watching that slop when they can watch a concise 90 minute documentary that more effectively shows you what these people are like

Why are you ignoring the first thing I posted? There are a bazillion youtubers taking apart these grifters in everything from shorts to multi-hour videos. Most are much better than this shitty documentary because they don't rely on the documentary format of interviewing these tards.

It's a horrible subject choice.
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>>219142049
>wow why is my dog acting all weird after I kicked it
Maybe start being nice, and I'll stop being angry.
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>>219141964
Oh so you literally need someone to hold your hand and say YOU, WHITE HETEROSEXUAL MAN, I AM SPEAKING SOLELY TO YOU. YOU HAVE IT ROUGH WHILE NOBODY ELSE IS SUFFERING. YOU ARE REAL AND EVERYONE ELSE IS AN NPC. BUT FRET NOT, I SEE YOU. NOW GIVE ME TWENTY BUCKS AND DO PUSHUPS.
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>>219141916
>Literally how is that going to work?
Uh gee, I don't know, anon, you go to class and talk to your classmates?
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>>219141773
Are you disabled in any way?
Autism? FAS?
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>>219142069
So if I want to hear from people taking my side, it's people who are explicitly banned from the mainstream, and constantly smeared by the mainstream?
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>>219142026
>lot more opportunities for competition (posting grades publicly like they used to)

Wha kind of a fucking loser competes about grades?
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>>219142050
GOSH, that's clever! Well done, Felicity!
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>>219142165
no, you just go watch their very popular media that's consumed by millions and explicitly supported by the most powerful people on the planet. You don't get to define "mainstream" as you see fit and have everyone else accept it in order to prop up your victimhood
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>>219142160
nta but high inhibition is enough to quietly ruin your life. You don't need something medically diagnosable.
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>>219142153
>so how's that work? haha. Do you want to be friends with me?
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>>219142193
Nerds. There were absolutely cliques who competed around getting top marks.
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>>219142210
I would like to hear the BBC, Sky, ITV, and Channel 4 saying it, and I want to hear them mean it.
I want to hear my government saying. Every party.
I want to hear popular day-time entertainers saying it.
Musicians, artists, film makers...
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>>219142026
>There is no competition!!

Motherfucker, there are sports everywhere and a lot of them do nothing but try to train you like you’re planning to be professional and force you to compete. It’s exactly that type of pressure for endless competition and you against everyone mentality that people quit sports and feel like shit because every facet of life in America beats you up with the notion you’re competing against everyone else.
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>>219142153
Worthless post. Anyone asking /tv/ for advice on how to make friends obviously isn't gonna be able to strike up a conversation with a stranger in a lecture hall.
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>>219131219
The "solution" is to, as a man, understand that 95% of the women you meet are grown up toddlers.
They want and need to be treated as such. Baby talk, giving them shiny little gifts, pretending to care about whatever the fuck they talk about, do small acts to remind them you care, etc.
Once you view them in this way, you can then tell them what to do and they'll do it because they want to be told what to do. You can mold them to be like you. The second you treat them like an equal or maintaining the status quo, they'll leave you at the drop of a hat.
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>>219130716
that mommas boy at the end kinda owned him tho
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>>219142160
Obviously. I use 4chan.
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>>219142105
And most people are not going to waste hours researching random youtube essays
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>>219142053
>paying thousands of dollars to get a education I don’t need so I can maybe hook up with a girl and make friends as a 26 year old man
this is dogshit advice lol, I’d personally recommend doing hobbies were your bound to meet a lot of people. Rock Climbing has a lot girls and it’s good physical exercise.
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>>219142106
I tried to give you advice in my previous post but you'd rather wallow in self pity and cry about how mean the world is. You want luxuries afforded to you that you're not willing to afford to others, it's why you're how you are.
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>>219142273
lmao America is soft as shit. The only problem you have is anomie.
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>>219142106
If you do it enough the dog isn't fixable. You either put it down or find a home willing to deal with a fucked up dog. But you can't change the world to fit a fucked up dog's needs. That just ruins it for the other normal dogs that aren't ruined.
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>>219142225
Are you genuinely asking me to walk you through how to talk to human beings?
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>>219142272
ah so it's an affront if anyone disagrees with you
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>>219142068
I don't know who either of those people are
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>>219142310
I'm nice to everyone. I'm only being vaguely rude to you on this website to make a point, and because you're up for it.
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>>219142279
Fair, however, if there's no helping them, I don't think they have a right to complain that no one is helping them.
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>>219142298
The millions of views they rack up say otherwise. Louis is an irrelevant hanger-on trying to clout farm. He should admit he's lost it and give up, it'd be more dignified.
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>>219142328
I don't believe any of you are doing this shit.
>>219142345
Mainstream British political figures, of the left-socialist bent.
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>>219142308
Funny you say that. The friends I made at that CC got me and my wife into rock climbing. Also my degree helped me advance at work.
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>>219142328
>anon begins to grasp the scale of the problem and realises how over his head he is
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>>219142375
>I don't believe any of you are doing this shit.
You're too in love with being pathetic to be helped.
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>>219142347
I don’t believe you. If you were actually nice person you wouldn’t have issues talking to people and other people being nice to you. You might think you’re the hero of your story and thus by default nice but that’s a delusion
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>>219142347
>I'm nice to everyone
You need to really examine what you're doing then because 90% of people will match your energy. If you're polite they'll be polite back, if you're being a cunt they'll be a cunt back.
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>>219142418
>anon begins to grasp the scale of the problem and realizes the problem is deserved for some of those affected
This is like watching bodycam footage after having participated in the BLM protests all over again.
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>>219142480
If you're a loser, the only energy you give off is loser, and nobody wants to hang out with a loser. It's that simple.
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>>219142535
Sounds like something you should work on
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>>219142365
>there are millions of insecure boys who take comfort in watching other insecure boys prove to the whole world how they're not insecure
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>>219142418
>acts like asking “have you tried being normal?” is some galaxy-brain revelation
yeah man the scale of the problem is truly unfathomable, it’s called basic social competence. billions have mastered it but for you it’s the mariana trench

nobody’s saying it’s easy, we’re saying it’s simple. leave house, develop skill/hobby, talk to people without immediately radiating resentment. that’s it. there’s no hidden DLC questline.

you’re not “over your head,” you just don’t like the answer because it doesn’t let you stay comfortable and miserable at the same time.
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>>219142565
checks out desu
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>>219130716
He's a jewish leftist its to be expected

>jews and communists both prosper off the west
>will never leave it
>will never put their money where their mouth is
>will just make garbage propaganda about how racist, misogynistic, and evil the west is
>cue and repeat ad nauseum

Hmm yes very good this is a great world we live in
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>>219142535
Then work on stop being a fucking loser. Don't listen to these juice heads who are just as much of a fucking loser, in fact don't listen to any 'self help' bullshit. Ask yourself 'am I somebody I'd want to date? Or hang out with?' and if not zero in on why not and fucking fix it. None of us here are fucking psychiatrists anon we can't fix you, you have to recognize you're the problem and do something to fix it.
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>>219142573
>nobody’s saying it’s easy, we’re saying it’s simple. leave house, develop skill/hobby, talk to people without immediately radiating resentment. that’s it. there’s no hidden DLC questline.
This. People with no social skills think people with social skills just always had them and didn't have to do anything to improve them. I used to be just as much of a raging, seething autist, as anyone here, but I decided to stop blaming that one everyone else, take the blame, and commit to changing it. Most of us do that in our teens, but some retards don't get that message until later.
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>>219142328
no, please. But it would be helpful to know what to do with my arms when I walk. Like i know they have to move but it seems like they shouldn't swing so much. what do
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>>219142742
Put your hands inside jacket/pants pockets. Or carry a book.
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>>219131362
He said the solution is other men, that men keep other men in check.
So having a space for men to interact and be respectful to each other.
Basically good role models and teaching respect and responsibility and consideration to young men and boys.
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>>219142783
hard cover or soft cover? In both hands? Thumb in pocket or out?
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>>219142742
Don't worry about basic shit like that. Overthinking makes it harder to talk to people. Just be interested in others and do what comes naturally.
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>>219142794
>So having a space for men to interact and be respectful to each other.

Sounds impossible considering how often men think they have to shit on other men in order to feel good about themselves.
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>>219142838
>what comes naturally
i can't think of a single thing that fits in this category
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>>219142833
Oh, my mistake I thought you were being genuine. You know you're a fucking scumbag, right? People want to help others and you're making them not want to do that. Making the world juuuust a little shittier. Fuck you.
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>>219142878
>renowned self-help forum /tv/
sorry for not respecting the sanctity
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>>219142857
It’s just banter, when you actually have friends you can tell the difference between breaking balls and genuine spite. I don’t know how often women do it to each other but there’s a reason why men centered podcast are so popular.
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>>219142920
You really should be.
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>>219142946
you have to remember this board is full of genuine humourless autists, try to have a bit of banter with them and they'll take it at face value, insist it's not funny and demand you explain how it's a joke.
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>>219142041

all their assumptions of what makes a man attractive are gay-coded, they don't understand a woman's mentality at all
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>average man can't provide to a family on an average 9-5 job, not only that but getting a job is harder than ever
>low trust society because of lack of homogeneous societies
>a huge social stigma around approaching woman compared to decades before
That's all there is to it. Boomers also had shit absence parents that didn't care about them and ignored them, but they had more chances with women, jobs and community and couldn't cope with entertainment in their rooms.
But leftoids will continue to try and gaslight young men that all they need to do is to respect wamen, whatever that means.
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>>219138355
>ermmm actually respecting women, open borders and empathizing with black POCs about slavery and reparations is what masculinity is all about
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I wish schizos would stop quoting the voices in their head.
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>>219141209
*hits pipe*
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>>219142480
except the mainstream is telling them all to hate heterosexual white men.
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>>219141773
This post really triggered the normies
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>>219143295
>or so I've heard from people who go outside
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>>219142639
>am I somebody I'd want to date? Or hang out with?'
I think I am.
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>>219143122
>average man can't provide to a family on an average 9-5 job, not only that but getting a job is harder than ever
This is a major factor in today's problems but it's happening because people keep insisting on voting for Republicans who shoot down any sort of legislation that would give Joe Average better pay.
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>>219142273
Anon, do you really think competition just means sports?
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Louis is based but he needs to go back to his roots and hang out with some random nobodies rather than trying to always score some high profile shitters, especially with extremely media aware people like streamers.
Whole documentary shouldve been going to manosphere cons and just following a few random people to show us the victims, how it affects them and why they are drawn to it, etc., everyone knows the streamers themselves are just conmen, so its less interesting
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>adult """""""men""""""" listening to other adult men for guidance
failed father syndrome
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>>219143350
>republicans keep your wages down
>democrats bring more people to the workforce including trying to make every woman work and illegals so that the value of your work is at least half decreased
You cant win. If women werent in the workplace we'd all be making way more.
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>>219141964
>all these disingenuous replies

>>219132669 proven right again
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>>219143350
>Republicans who shoot down any sort of legislation that would give Joe Average better pay.
Legislation like kicking illegal wage competition out of the country so American workers can get better wages? Or legislation that would increase cost of goods and services like artifical minimum wage increases?
One of those will work and one won't. The Republicans have been voting for the one that will.
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Redpill influencers are literally nigger tier scammers and pyramid schemers who provide no value to society. The fact that modern dating is fucked up doesn't change this.
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>>219143359

>everyone knows the streamers themselves are just conmen, so its less interesting

Normies genuinely don't, they think it's a scary movement turning their children into the kid from Adolescence. Louis is susceptible to that too nowadays, his younger self would have honed in more on the grifting aspect instead of the message.
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We either remove women's right to vote and get higher education or we go extinct and get replaced by a stronger patriarchal culture
It's that simple
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>>219143439
congrats on ignoring whichever of the supply and demand curves suit you in these different senarios.
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>>219142946
>if you're polite but you don't know these thousand unspoken social rules we're going to outcast you and it's your own fault because you made us uncomfortable
>but also we get to say nasty malicious things about you but it's just banter so if you don't like it it's your own fault for taking it seriously
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>pathologising maleness

How is this aloud?
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>>219143350
>pretending democrats aren't part of the problem
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>>219143479
>every accusation is an admission
Thanks, anon. Which solutions were you referring to republicans shooting down? Certainly there'll be no ignored S&D curves there.
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a new manosphere bootcamp is opening up over in iran
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>>219143562
i think you got confused by my post. I didn't admit anything and I didn't say anything baout republican shooting things down. nonetheless, you're welcome, anon.
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>>219143516
>I am so important I don't need to work to understand social patterns. The rest of society needs to cater to my preferences.
Or maybe you're not special and you need to do what literally everyone else had to do if you want to be treated like everyone else.
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>>219143350
You can’t raise my wages, that’s communism
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>>219143681
Understanding you're not the world's main character is the most important realization someone can have and it's very obvious a lot of anons here have yet to have that realization.
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>>219143466
the kid from adolescence was literally just some kid who was a victim of bullying.
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>>219143352
If you need competition in your life sports offers more than anyone could ever want
>but I’m not good at sports!
Sounds like you don’t actually want to compete then
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>>219143681
>Just "learn" social patterns everyone was born with bro
>you can't do that? guess you deserve to be treated worse than former murderers and rapists
I'm convinced at this point normgroids aren't sentient
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>>219132669
it's amazing how much i see this tweet. someone here's entire discourse is posting this and saying "proven right again"
i wonder how that plays out in the real world
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>>219143439
How has your wages gone up now that all the browns are being deported? You a millionaire already?
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>>219143822
>guess you deserve to be treated worse than former murderers and rapists
what's the worst thing that's ever happened to you socially?
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just looksmax it's not that complicated
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>>219143466
You literally see a clip of Sneako fans who are kids chant FUCK GAYS FUCK WOMEN and Fresh & Fit guy claim he isn’t about hating women but then his show revolves entirely around calling women dumb whores and shaming them ar every opportunity.
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>>219143822
Most normies are sociopaths
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>>219143846
t. Disingenuous leftist
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>>219143822
>everyone was born with bro
No one is born with social skills it's literally something you learn by not hiding in a corner away from other people then getting mad at everyone else when you fell behind in learning these skills.
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>>219143937
i know it's you based on that response. i hope you have this automated somewhat by now
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>>219143439
>republicans spent decades spearheading union busting and offshoring
>now republicans are playing whack-a-mole tariffs with no long-term plan to foster competitive manufacturing industry with targeted protections, and there's little indication that it's motivating long-term onshoring at a substantial level
>regulation also clearly not favoring regulation on automation that will threaten wages
your reductive tendencies will likely cause you to fuck yourself in your own ass for the forseeable future. too fixated to the simple-brane version that daddy sold to you, didn't bother to actually think it out comprehensively. keep voting.
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>>219130716
Back in my day we had le epic pickup culture. Lefties didn't wage war against it though.
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>>219143970
So you prefer your tax money going to brown people or Israel?
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>>219143996
neither desu but I do appreciate your concession via conspicuous deflection
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>>219143957
Thanks for proving my point again
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>>219143943
Dishonest. Everyone goes through many thousands of hours of socializing through schools in childhood. This is like saying mentally handicapped people must get bad grades because they chose not to pay attention in class
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>>219143996
Republicans are busy throwing money at Israel and defending the war in Israel and bombing random boats in South America and throwing tens of billions to bail out a right wing government in Argentina who’s busy crashing the economy again while the republican president keeps pardoning rich people who were prosecuted for defrauding Americans out of millions of dollars
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>>219130716
The greatest trick the devil evil pulled is convincing retarded third worlders that online grifters are the true stewards of masculinity
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>>219142573
>yeah man the scale of the problem is truly unfathomable, it’s called basic social competence. billions have mastered it but for you it’s the mariana trench

Correct. Like how billions have mastered basic maths but some people are retarded. If you're socially retarded it's over. You can go to coffee shops or sign up for community college or whatever, you can also smash your fingers with a hammer if you want to be in pain for no reason.
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>>219143906
She has no idea what an incel is. If she was forced to inhabit an incel's mind for 0.1 seconds she would try to an hero. If she survived she would fall to her knees crying and thank whatever gods exist for giving her such a carefree easy life.
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>>219144143
>Like how billions have mastered basic maths but some people are retarded
Treating people how you'd want to be treated is a lot easier than trigonometry, if someone in Kindergarten can grasp a concept that you're struggling with you might've just gotten a bad dice roll in life with your genetics.
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>>219143943
>what's that anon you had childhood cataracts and now you can't see properly?
>stop making excuses, everyone else can see, you're just being lazy
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>>219130716
“If you don’t let my gay bestie suck your dick you are TOXIC!
If you don’t wear a dress you are TOXIC!
If you play video games and didn’t love the Barbie movie you are TOXIC!!!!!”
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>>219144233
This is facetious, right? It's hard to tell in this thread. This sounds like something right out of the Supreme Gentleman's manifesto.
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>>219143906
literally why am I not allowed to play video games? It's TV you interact with. It's just a better and more social form of entertainment.
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>>219144247
>you might've just gotten a bad dice roll in life with your genetics

How many times did it need to be spelled out before you grasped it? Looks like you might be retarded too
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>>219144296
I am legitimately annoyed by her lack of understanding. If you have time to make videos on incels, you have time to understand the basics of what an incel is.
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>>219144279
Yeah, you got a bad roll of the dice with genetics. That sucks but what the fuck do you want the rest of us to do about it? Are we supposed to dig out our eyes and donate them to you? Shut off electricity and outlaw lights since you can't enjoy them?
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>>219144315
See >>219144355
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>>219144355
Why are you here? You're the normalfag with a life and friends and shit. Just fuck off.
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>>219131150
constant demoralization
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>>219144389
See >>219144405
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>>219144355
you could start by being nice.
Not immediately leaping to attack, and to offer to help with things.
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>>219144355
>yeah this thing I've been arguing against the entire thread was actually my point all along bro
gradually, I began to hate them
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>>219144335
There really isn't anything to understand of what the basics or whatever of an incel. Incels are just self centered dopes who think the world needs to hand them whatever they want on a silver platter. She's right in that 'incel', in it's literal form, 'involuntary celibate' doesn't exist because you can literally just go to a hooker and get sex.
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>>219144426
You're not wanting help you're wanting someone to give you a cheat code to a social life and pussy and that's what everyone's been saying, there fucking isn't one
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>>219144437
>who think the world needs to hand them whatever they want on a silver platter

Incels are extremely pathetic unlikeable people, who are fully aware that they are pathetic unlikeable people. Hence literal incel forums being full of "it's over" "it never even began" posts. That's it. You are trash, you are innately disgusting, nobody will ever like you or want to be around you, there is no action you can take to rectify this, there is nothing you can do. It's over.
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>>219144491
I want the standards for socialising not to be so arbitrarily high. I want people to give me the time of day, instead of treating me like refuse.
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>>219144427
You can turn on a computer, open a browser, navigate to 4chan, construct a sentence, and post that sentence to 4chan. You're obviously not that retarded so you have enough mental faculties to not be a fucking shut in loser.
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>>219144536
you make thousands of choices every minute. start making better ones
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>>219144536
>I want the standards for socialising not to be so arbitrarily high
THEY'RE NOT YOU GODDAMN RETARD THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS WHOLE FUCKING THREAD. You literally just have to treat people how you'd want to be treated. Would you want a total stranger busting in on a private conversation between you and a friend? Do you want a total stranger staring at you? No? Neither does anyone else. It's the fucking golden rule that's literally it. Fucks sake goddamn fucking fuck
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>>219144568
You ever realise some people are in wheelchairs, but can talk fine? And other people can walk around fine but are mentally retarded? In other words, did you ever realise there are multiple aspects to a person, it's not all one sliding scale?
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>>219144536
in what way have you been treated like refuse in the past year? specifically?
Also if you could answer my previous question about the horrible treatment you've received that is worse than decades of incarceration and (at best) complete destruction of your social and professional prospects?
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>>219144595
there's no right choice to make. If I tried to talk to someone, they would accuse me of harassing them.
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>>219144643
YOU
HAVE
THE
MENTAL
FACULTIES
TO
POST
ONLINE
YOU
HAVE
THE
MENTAL
FACULTIES
TO
NOT
BE
RETARDED
IN
REAL
LIFE
Fucking get over yourself and stop wallowing in self pity and maybe your life will actually get better
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>>219132322
nta
both don't want women dictating how to behave?

>>219143019
You should leave then
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>>219144642
>You literally just have to treat people how you'd want to be treated.
I do, and they ignore me
>Would you want a total stranger busting in on a private conversation between you and a friend?
If they had something to add, yes. I come here every day.
>Do you want a total stranger staring at you?
I'd like to be noticed more.
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>>219144233
>If she was forced to inhabit an incel's mind for 0.1 seconds she would try to an hero. If she survived she would fall to her knees crying and thank whatever gods exist for giving her such a carefree easy life.
Is this satire?
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Normies will keep berating chuds until chuds become the majority, if it isn't already. thus the new normal.
Isn't the rate of young single men over 50% at this point?
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>>219144688
I have an entire lifetime of confirmation that yes, I am in fact too retarded to handle even basic social situations.

Yes I have been to a therapist, yes they tested me for autism, no there isn't any helpful advice you can give. You should leave this thread. You could be doing anything, and you choose to be in this thread, failing to understand what it's like to be a total fucking loser.
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>>219144646
I don't want to talk about the bullying. It bring up bad feelings.
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>>219144726
Answer this anon >>219144646 give us a real example of this contempt that society has for you and we can tell you what you're doing wrong
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>>219144740
Obviously it's satire, irl there's no way she'd survive the 0.1 seconds
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>>219144646
Autistics have higher unemployment rates than ex-cons
literally treated worse than the scum of society who abuse or murder people
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>>219144818
A few months ago I approached a mental health service, and was essentially shown the door. IMO, I think they didn't want to help me because I'm white and a man.
You happy?
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>>219144792
fair enough, but to an outsider it seems like you are quite likely exaggerating or outright fabricating some of the harms visited upon you. I don't think the "just be better at it bro" posts are particularly helpful for you, but you might be able to address some of the burden you're putting on yourself before you even have to worry about the way people actually treat you at large.
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>>219143906
she didn't actually argue in favor of her claim
she just explained why incels are a thing
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>>219144879
i hate to break this to you, but employment is not the only form of treatment that people get from society. Also, "ex-cons" is not sufficient to prove the point in this case, because anon referenced specific heinous crimes that pertain to a minority of ex cons. Take a lap.
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>>219144945
well, I don't see anyone being nice or wanting to know me. Last real friend I had was when I was 15. My extended family say shit about me when they think I'm not listening.
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>>219144879
There's no point
You'll never be able to fit an understanding of what it's like to be you, into a handful of paragraphs
Either you're talking to someone who has similar experience and grasps it innately, or they don't and they will never understand
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>>219145016
That's not great by any means, but it's a far cry from what you previously described. There's an enormous gulf there.
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>>219144902
>I think they didn't want to help me because I'm white and a man
...am I being punked? Or skunked, or puked, or whatever the fuck?
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>>219144987
I know of a guy who is a regular at a local pub who spent time in prison for murder and everyone is friendly with him
literally treated worse than murderers socially because uhhh... you didn't make the appropriate amount of eye contact so you deserve it
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>>219145016
>My extended family say shit about me when they think I'm not listening
Everyone talks shit about everyone behind their back
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>>219145154
you don't think they are talking tons of shit behind his back?
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>>219145089
what did I previously describe? The world repeatedly tells me it doesn't want me, and there's something morally suspect about me, just for existing.
The BBC tells me this when they make TV shows about how apparently people like me are the biggest threat there could be. Why is a lonely man on a computer the modern symbol for evil? I don't think I have done anything especially wrong.
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>>219145165
I don't call my family members "the creature".
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>>219145258
>The world repeatedly tells me it doesn't want me, and there's something morally suspect about me, just for existing.
stuff like this. you're interpreting things in ways that maximize your victimhood. It also seems like you are habitually fabricating and exaggerating things.
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>>219145299
that's just because you're hairy and have a huge penis. Also, I suspect your quarters are den-like.
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>>219145131
their material was filled with pictures of women in burkas and stuff. There's a coded language to all of this, and it says "you're not welcome".
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>>219145311
So when is anything nice going to happen to me?
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>>219141670
hyper individualism directly impacts gender dynamics you retard
do you have the reading comprehension of a toddler? My whole fucking point is that stuff like the whole manosphere hysteria is a subset of fucked up gender dynamics which themselves are a subset of hyper individualism and every other issue plaguing modern society. My point is that western societies are structurally unhealthy right now in a way that affects everything including gender dynamics.
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>>219141821
>post more psychotic murder fantasies and how you’re a victim.
you won't believe me when I say this but I actually have a very good life and healthy relationships. I'm not the victim here. But I'm smart and empathetic enough to see how many of my fellow men are getting absolutely FUCKED by society (and to be honest so are many women albeit in a very different way)
also
>If schools can’t teach boys anymore what’s the solution? Put every boy in private boys only school?
unironically yes boys and girls should be in separate classes, ideally from preschool until university, but certainly for middle and high school. I have nothing against them going to the same school, I'm not some crazy Koranic nutjob who thinks men and women should be segregated from each other outside of marriage, I just think there should be different teaching styles and formats applied to men vs women. I also think most boys' teachers should be male rather than the current setup where female teachers massively outnumber male teachers in every education context other than specific parts of high academia.
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>>219145396
you're gonna have to subscribe to my patreon and get a subscription delivery of my trademarked nutriceutical formulation to find out. But it works, trust me.
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