Trek has always been woke, and the same goes for every IP you've ever enjoyed.
I love woke.
>>219154398*awakeLearn English.
>>219154398>point of characters to show how destructive and retarded race wars were with these two being last of their kind>one shows up in nu-trekYeah enjoy your wokeslop, axewound.
Yea this episode was retarded and the series was literally made as a vehicle to push progressive politics, Roddenberry straight up said it was intended to target the teenage demographic most likely to enjoy Flash Gordon type scifi and indoctrinate them. A lot of it is even more sinister and subtle too, shit like the United States of Africa, the black science man etc. There's still a solid amount of episodes with no political slants because Star Trek had a ton of different writers involved, and Roddenberry wasn't involved directly with the production of most episodes.>>219154512It's a disingenuous point being made because it frames their hatred as being absurd and illogical by making the only differences between the two races being a small aesthetic difference, which is a ridiculously reductive and false portrayal of the issues underlying real racial conflict.
>>219154398the lesson was that black-on-the-right-side and white-on-the-right-side inhabitants of cheron were intractably incompatible. and, in such a large galaxy, instead of fighting, they should have lived separately in peace.
>>219154628Politics is inherently reductive.
>>219154398Star Trek is the most racist show of all time. They always judge alien races by their stereotypes first. And acknowledge the racial weaknesses and strengths of them. Not to mention how they just casually refer to people as “that Klingon” “the Vulcan” etc. rather than as individuals or just simply calling them by name
>>219154398Incorrect. There’s a difference between Trek and nuTrek. Yes, old Trek had unambiguously progressive messages, but it was hopeful. It showed an enlightened human future culture that had solved the vast bulk of its internal problems while projecting many of our social issues onto alien cultures, which allowed the viewers to look at those issues with some distance and objectivity while still feeling hopeful that humanity finds a way. In contrast, nuTrek is textbook woke demoralization. It shows humanity with all the same problems we have right now. The message is that we never change, never attain enlightenment, never solve any of our own problems, which is a glaring contrast to what every previous generation of Trek showed.
>>219154934Nothing is inherently reductive, it's all how it is handled. For example, speech and conversation isn't inherently reductive, but your post certainly is.
>>219154939Same reason D&D used to ascribe behaviors and morality to entire races.
>>219154990The hopefulness is manipulative because it is portraying a society that aligns with progressive attitudes as being innately desirable and something to work towards - much like the term progressive itself, it frames it was a positive thing by design. Many of the more political episodes are the exact opposite of objective, they are deliberately influencing you towards an attitude and idea. For example, the episode in the OP frames racial conflict as a ridiculous and silly battle over nothing but skin colors. It might feel more balanced and less extreme, but that's only by comparison to the modern political landscape - far left 60's is practically right wing today.nuTrek is just the same retarded bash you over the head turbowoke crap infesting every other piece of media. It's full of girlbosses and retarded niggers because the people that are making it don't even have a slight degree of subtlety and don't really think of their positions beyond basic tribalism. It's rainbow Twitter taking a shit on a strip of film.
>>219154398Things didn't get more woke, you just got more chuddy
>>219155227Im gay
>>219154398>cast two white guys"you silly white people need to stop killing each other" intraracial violence has historically claimed more lives than interracial violence. no one is ready for this ultimate gigawoke truth bomb
>>219155342>implying Europeans are a single race
>>219155204You could say the same shit about dozens of shows that portrayed conservativism as inherently good and call that manipulative.Bro, people make art and fictiob that show their biases and preferences, you might as well just type "I DON'T LIKE THIS" and be done with it because you're not making some kind of insightful observation by pointing it out when you disagree with it.
>>219154398The Overton window has moved so much; what passed as woke in the '70s is now right-wing.
>>219155429> You could say the same shit about dozens of shows that portrayed conservativism as inherently goodhaha yeah those
>>219155429>You could say the same shit about dozens of shows that portrayed conservativism as inherently good and call that manipulative.Sure, we could, but we are talking about Star Trek.>Bro, people make art and fictiob that show their biases and preferencesDoubtlessly, but that is distinct from a show that is specifically produced and engineered with the purpose of spreading a world view into the minds of impressionable young people.>you might as well just type "I DON'T LIKE THIS" and be done with it because you're not making some kind of insightful observation by pointing it out when you disagree with it.I disagree with any overt propaganda made with the intent of influencing over entertaining. People will undoubtedly write a part of themselves into almost anything they produce, but it varies by degrees and by intent. You could argue that Scooby-Doo has political and moral attitudes in it, but if you tried to equivocate it with a show that was deliberately engineered as a mouthpiece for subversive political influencing you'd be ridiculous. I will continue to observe and notify others of stuff like this when I am made aware of it, and if you care about keeping propaganda distinct from entertainment, so should you.
>>219154398The difference is old Trek had actually good writers who were interested in telling interesting science fiction that sometimes used modern day moral questions to explore ideas and give the characters topics to discuss, which also meant sometimes having conversations where the answers aren't always easy (like when Data points out that Terrorism often works and Picard basically says that while he doesn't like it, he can't disagree), but that all the characters still strove to improve themselves and the world they lived in. Modern Trek is a bunch of arrogant SJWs who are convinced they already know the right answers to everything and use the characters and generic mouth pieces to lecture the audience about how awful straight white men are.
>>219155047If politics isn't reductive, nothing would get done. Politics has to be reductive in order for society to be stable.
>>219155450LOL, no.
