This movie's rabbit hole goes very deep and no one ever talks about it for some reason. It's basically Polanski taunting the audience about how the world really works and how untouchable elites like him are -- he re-enacted the ending IRL afterwards and got away with it just like the villain in the movie. And that's just the surface
>Forget it Jake, it's the Jews
Yeah thats right Chinatown famously never discussed. What are you retards putting in your faggy lil e-cigs?
>>219184639Demoralisation psyop
Fine, since no one else wants to reply First of all, the obvious. >The movie is about corrupt wealthy elites raping little girls and getting away with it: Roman Polanski, the director, did the exact same 2 years later>Polanksi raped the little girl at Jack Nicholson’s house in 1976>Polanski is a fugitive but protected by Europe and Hollywood as an important artist >Clearly this movie was his confession of how the world really works>Polanski is Jewish and a Holocaust survivor; his parents strangely moved from Paris to Poland on the eve of WW2 at a time where Jews were fleeing Europe entirely >His mother who was killed in a gas chamber was the inspiration for Faye Dunaway’s appearance in Chinatown >Polanski frequently makes movies about political conspiracies, esoteric knowledge and cults >In 1969, Charles Manson and the Manson family kill Polanski’s girlfriend Sharon Tate after he makes the movie Rosemary’s Baby about the devil impregnating a woman with the antichrist, her neighbors turning out to be cult members
>>219186465Chinatown then comes out in 1974 >The villain of Chinatown, Noah Cross, is a wealthy LA elite who is an incestuous rapist that impregnated his daughter and at the end of the movie kidnaps his granddaughter-child >Cross is played by John Huston. Huston was the best friend of George Hodel, a physician who married Huston’s ex wife >George Hodel, like Polanski, was a wealthy Jewish elite. He had a genius level IQ, was a polymath and child prodigy. Known to be an insane sex freak since childhood. He was connected to the LA and Hollywood elite, performing abortions for them at his home and attending all their social gatherings passing each other’s wives and daughters around >His home was none other than the John Sowden House in LA which resembles a sacrificial Mayan temple; Noah Cross’ estate in Chinatown looks like it
>>219186520>In 1945, Hodel came under suspicion of murdering his secretary Ruth Spaulding in order to cover up his financial fraud, such as billing patients for tests that were never performed, and to protect valuable secrets he had obtained about police and politicians from patients obtaining illegal abortions>At about this time, Hodel left briefly for China, where he worked with the United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration, indicating government/spook connections >Hodel then became the prime suspect in the Black Dahlia murder but was acquitted after lack of evidence>Hodel’s daughter Tamar alleged that her father raped her and bore a child with her, Fauna Hodel, who later discovered this truth and wrote a memoir about it >Hodel’s son Steven Hodel is an investigative journalist and claims his father was protected by the government who covered up that he’s a serial rapist and murderer, and almost certainly the Black Dahlia killer given that the murder of Elizabeth Short required some degree of surgical knowledge that Hodel had>Hodel fled the country just like Polanski when the police were hot on him, but his son claims he actually returned to America at several points using elite connections. He later returned to America permanently in 1991
>>219186568And that’s not all >Jack Nicholson apparently dated Tamar Hodel for a time>Tamar was friends with Michelle Phillips, 2nd wife to John Phillips who was leader of the band The Mamas and the Papas >Nicholson also dated Michelle Phillips >Mackenzie Phillips, daughter of Michelle and John, alleged that she was sexually involved in a relationship with her own father and that she had an abortion of their child after discovering she was pregnant >The Mamas and the Papas were a key rock and roll hippie band; John Phillips came from a military family just like how other rock acts like Jim Morrison came from glowie/military families >These rock groups and hippies were connected with the Manson family at the time who killed Sharon Tate >Chinatown concludes with Faye Dunaway’s character (Sharon Tate) being killed; Noah Cross (Polanski) then takes his spoils after the sacrifice and abducts his child daughter to sexually abuse her; Jack Nicholson (the audience) is then told to forget about it, it’s Chinatown and there’s nothing you can do in this world to stop these people
>>219186520Fascinating. Great thread.
>>219184639I only saw this movie once a long time ago and it was before I knew about Polanski. I need to rewatch.
>>219184770the movie is well liked but it is rarely discussed in depth
>>219184639>money has useful uses. Like avoiding law enforcement Wow. Crazy. This is something I definitely had to learn from a movie. I sure wish I had any
kino LA jew schizo lore
Interesting read of the film. I definitely noticed the films pessimism towards powerful people getting their comeuppance. Still, what was to stop Jack from getting a gun the next day and killing Cross?
>>219187898prison? serving justice at the cost of your life isn't exactly worth it
>>219188303It's a hard bargain but one life to stop these monsters for good isn't terrible. I do think part of what Polanski was communicating was that the public is ultimately willing to turn a blind eye to these crimes and wont pursue vigilante justice even when the law fails
>>219188859>the public is ultimately willing to turn a blind eye to these crimesI've seen several people get visibly upset when you try to talk about how real all this is. That is one thing I never expected. That people would bury their head in the sand to not see it. Maybe Polanski knows they can get away with it because a lot of the population is like this.
>>219187898I saw it that Jake was demoralized, he had a totally defeated expression like he lost the will to do anything at all after Evelyn was killed. The movie is very much intended to demoralize the audience too
It was no secret back then that musicians and movie stars were fucking 13 year olds
>>219189515It sounded like Jake had been previously demoralized in the past, but couldn't resist the urge to try and do good again. The ending is him falling back into that pit of demoralization that made him leave Chinatown in the first place.
>>219189532yes, that's the point; none of the utter degeneracy going on in LA at the time was a secret. Polanski however was banking on the masses just not doing anything about it because he's juiced in the system like all the other elites and can get away with it. And he was right, he laughed at us through the movie screen
>>219186621Yeah but Polanski didn't write Chinatown, some other guy did who wrote Network
>Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown I don't get itSo the place was ran by the Chinese so there is nothing he, as a white man, can do? But 99% of the cast is white?
>>219189532Jimmy Page and Mick Jagger doing it seems infinitely less wrong than a director doing it, at least rock stars are like these girls vision of the perfect man
>>219189601I don't want to be playing defense for Polanski because he is ultimately scum, but I don't see the film as mockery as much as it is an exploration of a dark truth. I think he was as cynical as anybody else in that regard. >>219189734Chinatown was seemingly a crime-ridden place where fucked up things happened daily. There was no use getting worked up over something that happened there.
>>219189693Robert Towne was another LA elite who had the same connections. And although Polanski didn't write it, he did come up with the ending. Originally it was supposed to end with Evelyn staying alive
Pedophilia was a trend in the late 70s all the famous people and intellectuals of France signed a petition to allow it. So that's where Polanski fled to when he was caught. That and cults were in the air then until everyone came to their senses. No internet meant you could believe in nonsense
OP assume you read McGowan?
>>219190011>cults>nonsenselolstay blind
>>219190017No
>>219192536David McGowan has some interesting writings about Hodel and the Mamas and the Papas and the Laurel Caynon music scenemight be worth a look if this kind of stuff interests you
>>219189734>dude race lmao
ITT: schizos who never watched chinatown
>>219186465i-i like you and your posts mr anon sir
>>219193616Forget it, anon.
>>219192735Interesting, I'll look into that book
>>219184639>untouchable elitesEpstein Class
>>219184770>doesn't read past first sentence >shares worthless opinion anyway Congratulations on another fine shit post. .
>>219194734>arrested>exposed>”suicided”How exactly is this untouchable?
>>219189515>The movie is very much intended to demoralize the audience tooOr it's intended to rouse them and make them wake the fuck up and try to do something.
>>219184639>It's basically Polanski taunting the audience about how the world really works and how untouchable elites like him areThat was Rosemary's Baby.
>>219195080He does it repeatedly in his movies, Ninth Gate is also about weird satanic cult shit but kind of treats it as a joke
>>219195080I found this one incredibly disturbing. I guess to me it sounded so plausible (IYKYK) that it made me wonder how much of it was based on true events.
>Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown 1974 2160p UHD BluRay REMUX DV HDR HEVC TrueHD 5 1-TRiToN
It's le Chinatown, Jakey Snakey
Polanski was forced to leave the United States and never returned. That's hardly getting away with it.
>>219184639>he re-enacted the ending IRL afterwardshe shot a woman in the eye?
>>219186520Huston was cast because he directed a bunch of film noirs in the 1940s and 50s
Pick my next Polanski to watch tonight /tv/ bros. So far I've seen>Chinatown >The Ninth Gate>The Ghost Writer >Chinatown >The Tenant
>>219196680Complete his apartment trilogy. Watch Repulsion then Rosemary's Baby.
>>219196680Rosemary's Baby
>>219186465>>219186520>>219186568>>219186621The things you mentioned happening in real life are all true (fact checked by real /tv/ kinnosseurs) but I attribute it more to a fact that it is a richoid environment than some "jews have to tell you what they are doing because they are mocking you". Rich people will always rape, murder, ignore laws etc.
>>219196680try Chinatown
>>219196680Death and The Maiden
>i will confront the evil ritch guy who is known to hire henchmen alone with no backup from anyone from my detective agency and bring the evidence i told no one about all for literally no reason whatsoever.I fucking hate the ending, not because its dark but because Jack suddenly acts like an idiot.
>>219196458>Was still allowed to live in relative comfortSo...he got away with it ..
>>219196680Tess
The damage control celebrities ran/run for Polanski is fucking discusting. I remember here in Poland there ware some far left/commie celebs that are normally the muh womens rights, always believe women types that ware literally saying "eyyy she was asking for it!".
>>219197664We don't have commoes in Poland and our left are just normal centrists.
>>219197664To be fair, the girl herself forgave Polanski and has a good relationship with him nowadays, so it’s kind of her fault too that everyone was eager to rehabilitate him when she constantly complains that Polanski is treated unfairly
>>219196535Some of the best.
At this point Polanski shouldn't be prosecuted. It's nothing more but petty revenge. The now infamous petition was from pre me too era, which is why so many artists signed it.
>>219184639>It's basically Polanski taunting the audience about how the world really works and how untouchable elites like him areThis but Rosemary's Baby
>>219197664He had to get it on
>>219186465The Manson murder angle isn't interesting. He was only looking to cover his ass by getting a buddy out of prison through copycat killings. They went to Cielo Drive because they'd be invited there a bunch of times and had more familiarity with the location.The problem with this story is that focusing on the murders means, by contrast, nobody cares about the fact Manson was basically a pimp and that's why he was invited to Cielo Drive so many times. Dianne Lake was underage and likely pimped out too. The guy was enabling all the proto Epsteins.
>>219184639And then you voted for a pedophile.Twice.
>>219196814The broader point is that Chinatown was about the extreme vice and elite degeneracy happening in the world at the time, but showed it through a very subdued detective story set in the past. The movie isn’t literally making references to people like Hodel or Phillips, but it is admitting that this was the behavior going on in LA in Polanski’s elite circles and that this was just the way the world was gonna work from now on whether we like it or not
>>219198083No one should be allowed to leave the country to escape punishment and then just be forgiven because it's been a long time. It's not like he served out his sentence by avoiding the US. He has been living a life of comfort in Europe.
>>219198105Elite? Polanski fucking escaped by the skin of his teeth and forfeited his lucrative career in american cinema to skate by making little art films on in exile. Any sense of the word elite that you have in mind is the opposite of what that fucking guy has going on.
>>219195080Specially his movies are about how jews are untouchable
>>219186465>>219186520>>219186568>>219186621There's no Hodel-Polanski connection here.You start off talking about Polanski and then change the story completely, jumping back two decades to actions carried out before Polanski was even in the US.But you want to conclude here >>219184639 that it's Polanski taunting the audience....Why, exactly?Have you never met someone who does bad things but still self-righteously points their fingers at others? Polanski easily could have internalized his actions as being part of the free love movement of the time without seeing it as necessarily justifying a father raping his own daughter.The better interpretation is that Polanski was involved in a lot of casual sex because it was extremely common at the time. But this brought him scarily close to a far more vicious and seedy underbelly which is what he's depicting in the film.
>>219198515What a poor man, living in a luxury penthouse apartment in a beautiful Paris neighborhood! Surely he is living a life of pain and suffering. The state of California owes this man reparations, this is like a second Shoah.
>>219198486He expected to get a probation, but the judge decided to make an example out of him which is why he fled. Everyone fucked teenagers in the 70s.
>>219198645He gave a 13 year old drugs and raped her. The prosecution tried to help sweep it under the rug with an absolute joke of a psychological evaluation. The judge was right to not let that fly.
>>219184770Absolutely spastic post
>>219189734Chinatown is an analogy for Hollywood>the place was ran by the (((Chinese)))
>>219198122kek
>>219184639I'm assuming the rabbi hole of this movie is a prequel to little Chinatown with kurt.
>>219196458sure, but it's not like he had to hide in the Phillipines and give up on his craft and renown
>>219184639It's one of those movies where I get something different out of it every time I watch it.
>>219189393Humans have an optimism bias. They don’t want to know about bad things
>>219189734No man, it’s about bad shit happens there & there’s nothing you can do about it.Modern equivalent is ‘this is Africa’
>>219205279This is the whole enchilada, right here. Guys who NEED to know the truth and have a deep-seated desire to fight against evil don't realize until late in life after many hard and painful lessons that almost nobody else is like that, almost everybody else is conflict-avoidant and just want to go along to get along. >Well why can't we all just . . .Because there is no "we." There's you and a handful of others, alienated and isolated, and there's everybody else, the vast overwhelming majority of people so helplessly dependent on the System that they will fight to defend it. >Well what can we do?!Again, there is no "we," so "we" can't do anything and therefore YOU can't do anything. >But what about . . . but why doesn't . . . but how come . . .See pic related. And then read it again. And then read it again. And then read it again.
>>219186465>>The movie is about corrupt wealthy elitesyes>>>The movie is about corrupt wealthy elites raping little girlsnot at all. it's just a subplot adding to the evil of Noah Cross>>Polanksi raped the little girl at Jack Nicholson’s house in 1976the "little girl" was 13 and dolled up and dressed up like a prostitute and dropped off at Jack Nicholson's house by her MOTHER to force her uninvited to a party that Nicholson was throwing. because her fucked up mother wanted her to have an acting career and thought that was the best way to acquaint her with Hollywood. which is why Samantha has completely forgiven Polanski despite mass media victimizationyou're passing the judgment on Polanski too easily. a real monster was someone like Klaus Kinski, not Polanski. you could even speculate they tried doing Polanski dirty, plenty others in entertainment have actually gotten away with screwing 13 year old groupies and aspiring actresses like David Bowie for example. Polanski had a plea deal with the prosecution but the judge had a last minute change of mind because they wanted to make a scapegoat of Polanski, so him fleeing is justified, fuck those guysChinatown was a breath of fresh air and much needed hard-hitting realism applied in Hollywood and only someone like Polanski could do it, much like another Polish Jew the director Alan J. Pakula of All the President's Men, and that's how you should read it>t. Pole
>>219205668I have a question - You say there is a minority of people who >NEED to know the truth and have a deep-seated desire to fight against evilI ssume, despite having their basic needs met. But the image you posted says >An unstable System that does not provide assurances in provision of basic wants loses the loyalty of the Lemming who must seek realization of his desires elsewhere.And I would add that there are always a number of people whose needs are not met by any given system, and that number grows as the system decays - so there are three groups - the those who wish to 'fight evil' despite having their needs met, happy lemmings, and unhappy lemmings who may be persuaded - what's the difference between an unhappy lemming and the first group?
>>219196680Macbeth
>>219206251Being unhappy with the system and having a need to fight evil are not the same thing at all. Most people who are either happy or unhappy with the system--far from wanting to fight evil--would rather BE evil themselves and only avoid it out of fear of exposure and punishment. This is the huge mistake that all righteous crusaders make, they think that all the "normal" people are moral, but just happen to be stupid and/or cowardly. In reality, most people simply do not care about good and evil and will adopt whatever moral framework seems to offer them the best deal. You hear a LOT of people saying "We gotta kill pedos, pedos get the rope," etc. Most of those people are just saying what they think everybody else wants to hear, whatever the acceptable opinion is. A lot of them are pedos themselves saying things like that to hide their true nature. Or take a look at prisoners who beat up and kill pedophiles in prison, you think they actually care about child abuse? What have they ever done for victims of child abuse? Nothing. They just want to kill somebody and they know that a pedophile is a safe target, somebody nobody will defend or avenge. They want to be violent and get away with it, not take some kind of stand for justice, if they gave a fuck about right and wrong, why are they in prison in the first place? They might think that child abuse is more evil than their own crimes, but so what? where do they get off acting like a righteous avenger, are they going to avenge their own victims next? Most people aren't really good or evil, they're mostly just neutral and willing to switch sides back and forth for temporary advantage. Most people ACT good most of the time because they lack power and it's safer to seem like a good person. The heroic crusader usually doesn't understand this and mistakenly assumes that "everybody" cares deeply about what's right. Most people pretend to, but very few genuinely do.
>>219198611I've never been more convinced Polanski is the one who always makes these threads about himself on /tv/ kek
>>219206102>the “little girl” was 13 Sounds pretty little to me, anon.
Idk he may be a jewish sexpest but he made such great kino that I forgive him.
>>219206102Other people doing bad things to young girls does not absolve Polanski
>>219206102>Alan J. Pakula of All the President's MenOne of the weakest Pakula joints, basically a boomer power fantasy about a couple of CIA agents. The Parallax View is his masterpiece and I'm convinced this is how real assassinations actually take place.
He also made this movie where the protagonist unwittingly gets involved with the Mossad and ends up screwing them over after they kill a girl he meets who is played by Polanski's future wife. I feel like there is some hidden message in it too but I don't know what
>>219209335Love this movie. Emmanuelle Siegner is an absolute sexpot and the soundtrack is awesome. You should also check out this one presumably about how their relationship started.
>>219209335IIRC, the producer of Fight Club was a Mossad spy that did the exact same smuggling as what happens in this movie and that’s why Israel got nukes
