Why does this franchise feel so fucking soulless compared to the first JP movies
>>219188289The Lost World is the worst one though. Even Spielberg hates it.
>>219188289>Why does this franchise feel so fucking soullessBecause it is. Simple as.
>>219188289One of the themes of the movie is the need to appeal to audiences with gimmicks. Interestingly it seems to be addressing what it's doing in it's own movie.
new good, old bad
>>219188441It's not. It's miles beneath the first JP, but it's still better than every other sequel (yes even JP3)
>>219188289>Why does this franchise feel so fucking soulless compared to the first two JP moviesftfy
I miss Isla Sorna. I used to think that it was overused because JP2 and JP3 took place there but it's actually the most kino setting in the whole franchise.
>>219189791>I'm ACTING
The original Jurassic Park was an accomplishment in special effects on par with Star Wars. Of course everything else came together nicely; the casting, the acting, the photography, rewriting Chricton’s autism into something palatable for the screen. But there’s nothing particularly original or fantastic about the story. So each subsequent sequel feels more tired and bland than the last… yep, there are dinosaurs and people running away from them again.Imagine if JP had been fumbled around in development hell for a decade and came out in 2003… would it be remembered as anything more than a decent summer action flick? It’s the Michael Jordan effect, others may come along who put up more impressive numbers but the first GOAT will always be the greatest GOAT and it’s simply not possible to dethrone them.
>>219190433I loved TLW as a kid but it hasn’t held up. It’s a two hour toy commercial and the final act is laughably horrible. And Jeff Goldblum works best in an ensemble, he can’t carry an entire movie himself.
>>219191316You're not wrong, but the tone is impeccable. That darker vibe, the feeling of going into a dangerous dinosaur wilderness, it's just so good. There's an appropriate dread about it. The double T-Rex attack on the trailer is up there with the original rex breakout in JP1, and no other sequel has a sequence that even approaches it. Roland Tembo is the last good character the series produced. It also still has a bit of that Spielberg touch. Not his best work by a mile, but even asleep at the wheel he still made a well put together film.The final act probably doesn't belong, but it's campy fun and doesn't bother me too much.
>>219188289it is its just mediocre lose story->mediocre thing happens->other mediocre thing happens -> cringe and lame combination of nostalgia pandering which shits all over what old franchise built -> other mediocre thing happens-> the end>>219189791Why the fuck is everything in new movies shallow depth of fields? Are they really too lazy to make decent backgrounds. Do they really think we want to just be staring at peoples faces for 2 hours?
>>219190433No it's not
>>219191114No theyre just good movies the blend of cgi, ambience, believable characters and character building, and music to tie it all together made them feel real and made audiences take them seriously. They did the suspense/horror aspect in a sensible nuanced way that didnt feel overdone/out of place. New directors are too low IQ to pull it off.
i just watched them all last week and even 2 and 3 seem like masterpieces to the utter slop of these new ones
>>219192032They want the lean CGI budget of hiring an army of jeets without making it too obvious they hired an army of jeets
>>219188289How is the only based and trad franchise of the 21st century "soulless"?
>>219188289Michael Crichton was the ur-autist. None may hope to challenge how few fucks he gave about narrative pacing or character development or personal stakes. The man only cared about the parts of science he found interesting and it *showed* in his books. You read Jurassic Park and you get the feeling that he begrudgingly included the narrative sections just to move copies. For the masses, the draw was seeing what would happen if modern humans had to interact with dinosaurs in the modern world. We then, naturally, would seek to explore more of that human-dinosaur dynamic in sequels. Crichton, however, having exhausted his interest in the idea of resurrecting a species from fossilized DNA, would move on to the next bit of science he found interesting for a sequel which probably wouldn’t even involve dinosaurs. The man didn’t give a single solitary fuck about anything. He found global warming to be an overblown tool for propaganda. ER wasn’t about doctors boning, it was him in a hospital jerking off over how cool he found the new techniques that were being used by doctors.
a major appeal of the first jurassic park was the technology...it felt new at the time to see the dinos on the screen like that. but when CGI is no longer impressive there is just very little appeal.
>>219188289Because it's made by different people you fucking moron?
>>219188289>JP1 - What if there was an Island Theme Park, with Dinosaurs?>JP2 - What if people got stuck on Dinosaur island?>JP3 - What if people got stuck on Dinosaur Island?>JW1 - What if there was an Island Theme Park, with Dinosaurs?>JW2 - what if Dinosaur Island exploded? (ignoring there's 2 islands)>JW3 - What if Dinosaurs..... lol fucking whatever man, Dinosaurs, come see this shit, Jeff Goldblum is back, OK, Dinosaurs!>JW4 - What if people got stuck on Dinosaur island? This is a 3rd different Island in the Atlantic too, and there's hybrid mutant monsters, do they need to be Dinosaurs? Fuck you, you'll see it.I hate what this franchise became. It was man vs nature, science vs naturalism, not monster island.
>>219192032Because it's just footage of a guy standing in front of a green screen that then gets palmed off to a bunch of indians who don't even know how to spell the world "cinematography" let alone what it means.
>>219196374...I didn't even know there was a fourth JW movie, holy shit.
>>219196728Whole new cast, and 5th is in the works. They didn't make the same mistakes as last time, but did make all new ones.
>>219196728You're not missing much
>>219188289Turn off your nostalgic glasses uncFirst movie is literally the 3rd best movie in the franchise
>>219188441Lost World is a fucking mess, but it's still more rewatchable than any of the World movies. There's still good dino action and plenty of memorable lines.
>>219197141I swear 5 times in this movie a CGI monster appears behind a character and the character doesn't notice. It's so stupid.
>>219197141that makes no physical sense.
jurassic world 1 wasn't that bad. i feel like it was comparable to JP1 as a soft rebootjurassic world 2 had potential, executed some things well. but introducing the clone chick and having the biology chick be an ugly broad took away a lot. the billionaires buying dinos sorta workedjurassic world 3 was pure dogshit as a story. held together with duck tape by the original cast and some suspense. making it about an evil corporation genetically modifying locusts was just too crazy of an ideajurassic world 4 havent seen yet
Even JP3 which I think is the weakest of the original films runs laps around the shitty soft reboot films. Its mind blowing that all the jungle scenes ware all filmed on a closed set in a studio and not in a real jungle.
>>219188289>Why does this franchise feel so fucking soulless compared to the first JP movieFIXEDThere is only the first movie
>>219188289because you are only meant to clap at the bossgirl hamfisting herself into the script, if anything outshone that like a good story it would not be allowed.
>>219188441If they had kept this scene, it would have been 10/10 kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raXWIDbugag
>>219188441The book was good, idc about the movie.
>>219197768>jurassic world 4 havent seen yetIt's the first time I've ever felt insulted by a movie. You need the suspension of disbelief of a 60 IQ retard to get past the first scene, and it never course corrects. I don't know how any of its writing got approved.
>>219188289The second movie was a horrible piece of shit, and the third one was pretty damn bad too.But they still had some nice practical effects and didn't have that weirdly dreamy digital look of the new ones.
>>219188289Because it didn't need sequels
>>219191316fuck you, its kino. entire movie sohuld have been just ingen hunting dinosaurs instead of that stupid greenpeace plot and malcolm's mutt daughterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NaBHCuxqhA
The first one understood that nobody is there to see character stories, they're there to see a premise. What if a dinosaur theme park? The characters exist only to facilitate the plot and themes that arise from that. Turns out they ended up being pretty cool and iconic in their own right, but nobody was ever under any impression that these were deep or complicated characters or that we needed to know more about them. At most we got a couple of very simple and minor arcs with Grant and Hammond.Every movie afterwards puts more and more emphasis on the character stories, their personal lives and interpersonal relationships, their motivations, etc. The premise necessarily takes a back seat to all this, so you're basically left with a bad soap opera terrorized by dinosaurs. They focused on character story rather than further probing the central premise, or exploring some other interesting premise.
>>219188289JPW is legitimately the worst movie I've ever seen in my life. I never watched any of the sequels after that one.
>>219203931To expand on this, a lot has been said about JP's play between wonder and terror. All the sequels attempt this, but none are able to pull it off like the first. Throwing in a token scene at the beginning of everyone going ooh aah at majestic dinosaurs isn't enough. Part of what makes the first one work so well is that the three main characters are all skeptical of the whole endeavor from the very beginning, yet despite their skepticism they still act like giddy children at the prospect of seeing a dino. That perfectly mirrors the audience's reaction and reinforces how we feel. We know this is a bad idea, but we want to see it anyway. And it spends a full half of the movie exploring that sense of skeptical wonder before all hell breaks loose.
