He was a good guy. Only bad people think otherwise.
>>219229870he was a chud
>>219229870No, he was a mentally ill tramp with delusions of grandeur. The existence of other bad people who he looks down on does not make him a good person.
>>219230037He beats the fuck outta moloch becuase hes an old nemesis of the comedian. then presumably veidt kills moloch. becuase he had cancer anyways.
>>219229936Yeah, OP already said that he's a good dude.
>>219230037>Delusions of grandeur are firm, false beliefs of superior power, wealth, intellect, or identity, often causing individuals to believe they are famous, chosen, or possess magical talents. Yeah you're wrong.
>>219229870He just gives up like a bitch when hes up against dr manhatten. never compromise not even in the face of armageddon.Rorsachs journal being \eft at a right wing mag pretty much means fuck all. veidts bomb/squid goes off without a hitch and dr manhatten has to fuck off becuase its for the best/outgrew humanity
>>219229936>>219230037>t. bad people who think otherwise
>>219229870I'm so tired of media illiterate chuds
>>219229870he was intentionally written as a disgusting parasite, inflexible and unable to see the bigger picture. Unfortunantely for Moore, and his hack writting, it backfired as he is the most endearing character in the plot, and the only one interested in truly stopping the egomaniac from commiting a genocide.
>>219229870I read the comic to understand why people hate the movie.It's because... Rorschach calls Adrian a homo?Because they improved the ending?Because they used slowmo?I don't get it, the movie is better.
>>219230328Actually he doesn't want to stop it per se i think, he just wanted people to know the truth
>>219230372i meant before reaching Ozymandias and learning the truth, he's the first person to start trying to investigate into the plot of the superheroes serial murder attempts, he's the one driving the momentum foward towards thwarting Adrian's plot, everyone else is too self centered in their own personal mid-life crises and pseudo-intellectual mumblings to care.
>>219229870He was a good guy, just utilitarians are better. Go tell the axe murderer which door your Mom escaped through.
>>219229870Ironic that a character that's a critique on black and white thinking is subject to this dumb black and white debate
>>219230037>noooooo he thinks hes a cool badass, i am better than him i ammmmm hes a chuddy!!!
>>219229870there's already a thread of this
>>2192298706/10, made me reply
>>219230372Was wanted the police to arrest veidt or something i dont know why he didnt go out just trying to kill veidt.perhaps a one world government under the most based superhero would be better. free energy is based. fuck paying my electric bill
>>219230656Well, I wanted another one
>>219230333Checked. It's a fantastic movie.But as you should know, this is /tv/ and the fa/tv/irgins here hate almost everything unfairly and unreservedly unless it's Citizen Kane, Dr Strangelove, or The Lighthouse.
>>219229936He really wasChuds will stupidly die on a hill for their principles rather than doing the obvious smart sneaky thing like secretly going to the press after
>>219230333Zack Snyder was too stupid to understand the comic that's why
>>219230224I’m fucking not. Alan Moore has explicitly said that he’s not supposed to be someone people root for
>>219230646What?
>>219230112Odd reply
>>219230333I think that's just retards being contrarian. I grew up reading and rereading the book and I thought the movie was an exceptional adaptation. Does the book justice, is frame-for-frame on the most memorable moments, and improves on some elements. I personally still prefer the book but I grew up on it and was an adult when the movie came out.
>>219232328They all jump around like they have superpowers because Snyder needs everything to look cool and the ending makes no sense
>>219232118The fact that the majority of people like him just shows how much of a poor writer Moore is and his push for his leftie views. Oh no he is smelly and poor and hurts child rapists please let the therapists save the world.
>>219229870He wasn't in the comic.God, that movie sucked hard.
>>219229870He was a bad guy. Only bad people think otherwise.
>>219232889Snyder literally fixed the whole story
Rorschach was right all along. Everyone knows pedophiles are protected and the people who runs the peaceful world are one of them. Does this awareness affect world peace? Hardly.
>>219230333>walks into diner>99 Luftballoons starts playing
>>219230865the last page of the comic shows his journal inside a newspaper's offices, iirc that's also one of the last scenes in the movie. Given that he's gone missing the thing is much more likely to get published than if he had gone to them in person, since he was always seen (rightfully) as a lunatic
>>219229870Correct.>>219230037> No, he was a mentally ill tramp with delusions of grandeurNonsense post.Because he was a vilegnite? So was every one in the film. >no you can’t hurt child monsters, that’s le nad!
>Noooo do not expose the billionaire pedophile! We need him for world peace! As expected of Neil Gaiman's best friend.
>>219232118>"Cleared throat. The man turned. And there was something rewarding in his eyes. Sometimes the night is generous to me.">"None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked up in here with you. You're locked up in here with me!">umm, you weren't supposed to like him, chud. get some heckin' media literacy.
>>219233432Maybe. Maybe the guy will read it and thik "this is dumb" and won't. Maybe when He publishes it people will think "o it's conspiracy theory nonsence" and will brush it off. Maybe NOT. Has anyone here actually read the comic?
>>219233432Just post it anonymously (which he did anyway) and don't tell your friends that you're going to blow the whistle on themBut no>I'm going to the press, if you want to stop my virtuous crusade for the truth, you'll have to kill meAnd his gay blue friend is like 'ok'
>>219230333Comic:>Blake's murder! You confess!>Confession requires penitence. I merely regret his involvement.Movie:>You killed comedian!>May he RIP in peace.Yeah, it's a mystery.
>>219233593The comic dialogue would be good if you are like, 13 years old.
>>219233512Alan Moore is such a dickhead.
>>219233593>You killed comedian!>May he RIP in peace.Kino
>>219233534the guy he sent it to is obviously a comedian fan, of course he'd publish it
>>219233650He overdosed himself with crack. You can see how he worships an alien snake that he made up in his own head.
>>219233630Yes, it's smug and condescending, but that's just Veidt's character. In the movie, he doesn't even have a personality.
>>219230037>with delusions of grandeur.He was the only one in the narrative that didn't have delusions of grandeur. What are you on about?
Holy shit chuds unironically lack media literacy. Alan Moore is smarter and far far far more talented than you knuckle dragging incels. Stop embarrassing yourselves for once in you lives.
>>219233534>Has anyone here actually read the comic?nigga I just described exactly the scene you posted, the implication is obviously that the retarded intern will likely find the story interesting and decide to publish it>>219233560as soon as the story was out Veidt would have known and he would have found a way to murder him then. Anyway a broken and stubborn person like him would never be able to go "dw I'll keep the secret, pinky promise" in such a situation, he was mentally ill and obsessed with his idea of justice. But I wouldn't say that acting that way was stupid, witnessing the murder of millions of people and being told that you'll have to keep it a secret your whole life is a tough pill to swallow
>>219233792I sincerely cannot give a shit if a pedo faggot character talks like a meat head or a poet. When the dialogues went on for so long, yet conveys absolutely nothing, you would have wished for it to end in 2 seconds.
>>219233882>Alan Moore is smarter and far far far more talented than you knuckle dragging incelsHe is a capeshit writer. Literally no one cares about his text novels because he is legitimately trash.
>>219232118You're wrong on the basis that you don't know what "delusions of grandeur" means fucking retard. And yes Alan Moore is just as retarded
Stood in firelight, sweltering. Bloodstain on chest like map of violent new continent. Felt cleansed. Felt dark planet turn under my feet and knew what cats know that makes them scream like babies in night.Looked at sky through smoke heavy with human fat and God was not there. The cold, suffocating dark goes on forever and we are alone. Live our lives, lacking anything better to do. Devise reason later. Born from oblivion; bear children, hell-bound as ourselves, go into oblivion. There is nothing else.Existence is random. Has no pattern save what we imagine after staring at it for too long. No meaning save what we choose to impose. This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. Streets stank of fire. The void breathed hard on my heart, turning its illusions to ice, shattering them. Was reborn then, free to scrawl own design on this morally blank world.
>>219233512>one of the most memorable scene in the movie happens off panel in the comic
>>219233946Veidt wasn't petty enough to murder someone because they fucked up his planHowever he would almost certainly have him killed if he suspected him of squealing, and would construct an elaborate scheme to discredit his story once it got out, whether Rorschach was alive or dead
>>219234042>Veidt wasn't petty enough to murder someone because they fucked up his planDid you forget someone?
>>219234042yeah I guess that Veidt could have easily made it so that nobody would believe the crazy guy saying crazy things, but even then Rorschach would have kept living like a rat while pointlessly trying to fight against him which is a pretty shitty existance, better to just die in a blaze of "glory" right then and there
>>219234042Veidt literally murdered Edward Blake because the guy saw his mutant octopus once.
>>219234103Comedian was killed because he knew the truth, Veidt killed him to stop it getting outKilling Rorschach after he's exposed the truth wouldn't be the same thing, and what's more wouldn't actually serve any purposeIf anything it'd validate Rorschach's claims and bring heat on Veidt. Veidt would smear him instead
>Apr 2>Day of fools has ended>But every day is fools day for OP>I watched him again today>Posting his faggot opinions>Pony posters, disgusting rot>The board is a cancer>Let the Janny clean up the shit and filth>and as he drowns in it he will look up and ask me to save him>and I'll look down and sayCHRISTIAN WESTON CHANDLER COMING AT YOU FROM CWKVILLE USAI AM HERE AND YOU ARE THERE
>>219234218Veidt could have just given him cancer so it would look like a natural death. However, Rorschach probably knows the lab's location and stole alot of documents, enough to validate the accusations.
>>219233986>yet conveys absolutely nothinglol wut? It clearly conveys something. It's basically Veidt saying "sorry, not sorry". That meaning is absent from the movie example.
>>219234037It's more meaningful in the comic. Sure, that particular scene in the movie is pretty cool for what it is, but it's basically just glorified capeshit. Rorchach is Batman, and Batman is cool. In the comic, the line is recounted by the therapist, who is falling further and further down into the abyss. Rorschach is dragging him down to his level, which adds much more meaning to the line. The therapist is barely even in the movie. Instead we get lengthy slow-mo fight scenes in the prison. Yay, Watchmen is no longer a subversive and existential work of art, it's just more capeshit.
>>219234437Watchmen was never a work of art. Subversive or not. Your brain has been rotted by pop culture dreck.
>>219234103>>219234218Also, Veidt was definitely just waiting for an excuse to kill Blake. He carried a decades long grudge because he beat his ass that one time. Behind his veil of intellectualism, he is very vain, conceited and petty.
So this is basically a tarpit for leftist commies to shill for Moore (another commie)
>>219234519You're silly.
>>219234294>It's basically Veidt saying "sorry, not sorry". That meaning is absent from the movie example.The comic example is literall crackhead dialogue. One is a truth ( Veidt murdered Eddie and confessed ) and one is a response that has nothing to do with the prior truth ( Nuh uh it is not a confession because i don't feel guilty about it! ), like what the fuck is this? A confession is a confession, you don't need to be a penitent to make a confession. Atleast the film kept it simple and actually makes sense>You killed him! >Yes i did, cry about it fag
