>women are born with value>men are not born with any value>men serve to suffer and strugglePop quiz, who do you think said this in the documentary?A) The liberal leftist feminist cuck LouieB) The based and redpilled anti-feminist """chads"""
>>219267968>women are born with valueKek. You tards keep contradicting yourselves.
If you aren't willing to slave and grind for Isareal you're a onions boy and you deserve to fuck fuking die TIMMY RETARD shut the fuck up and get back to work
How many children do you have?
>>219268095Adult?
Have money and be a douchebag. Women still fuck them daily. Seems like manosphere works
>>219268139Yes women are mostly attracted to psychopathic traits and good genes, money is not required. You can be a homeless abusechad and still fuck hundreds of different women
>>219267968>Manosphere Top 10 cringiest english words
>>219268175Exactly. Obviously not all women. But most
Don't live for women. Live for yourself. Don't support something if it's made by people who hate you. It's that simple.
>>219268181>Top 10 cringiest english wordsAmerican.
>>219267968The manosphere is gynocentric in nature. They’ll bitch about how bad modern women are, but all of the advice just consist of pandering to women harder without demanding any change.
>>219267968>women are born with valueBecause of men valuing their bodies>men are not born with any valueBecause you're a lard ass tub of balding shit. Women would value you if you were a 10/10
>>219268139It’s peak betabux before. They’re fundamentally no different from simps.
>>219267968Liberals don’t give a fuck about men at all, at best they pay lip service to you if you’re a minority but in their utopia world, we are a matriarchy
>>219268175>psychopathic traits>Good genesFemale nature is paradoxical at its heart, it’s why they’re constantly miserable even if you do everything right in a relationship.
>>219268246absolutely. everything is tailored with the woman as the first principle. Do women find this hot? If not i need to change. Women respond to men being an asshole, i need to be an asshole and so on and so forth. The male's pleasure is always a second thought, they need to please the woman, make her cum, dominate her in bed, treat her rough (like she wants).The only saving grace is some of these men eventually, after having ran through enough hoes, having sickened themselves with performing the alpha uber chad just to get to fuck women (who then get 90% of the pleasure anyway) become disillusioned with the whole shit show. Only then when they are truly blackpilled can they start to actually be their own man and do their own thing and not a man auditioning/performing for hoes.
>>219268291Neither does the right. They’ve been in power for several years with nothing to show for it. Now they’re asking you to marry whores for their retarded kike project. >They didn’t regulate predatory dating apps>Didn’t create better infrastructure for community>Let the manosphere rape their movement and further undermine traditional values by propping mutts like TateEverything the right has done in the past ten years has been nothing but lip service.
Its obvious how the man influencers use that perspective to sell their grift. And its true
>>219268281thiscontrary to popular belief, they do more to enforce the system than stop it. they just wanna sell you idea you have chance of making it into the 20%.
>>219268472I don’t dispute that but there still has to be clarification about the left or else you get guys suckered back in to accepting serfdom. There has to be a third option outside the two cucked social vasectomies offered to men now.
>>219268472Trump and Musk are center-leftists, they were both registered Democrats. There are two leftists parties and 0 right wing candidates.
>no more comfy louis threads because he made a documentary with sneakermaxxing chad67it hurts bros
>>219267968it's true though
>>219268935very few people get better as they get older. Too much to lose. Louis is now making docs like 'serious' journalists did 20 years ago. Very safe. Louis is now the disapproving voice of the normie npc. It is what it is.
>>219268773I’m in full agreement with you then. The left is absolutely abysmal and can’t even agree on some basic truths or downplays them severely. It is as you said, we do need a third option because it’s obvious neither of them are going to do shit.
>>219268139This right here is the entire reason WHY the "manoshphere" or whatever retards are calling it is "controversial": It's something that has clued-in on what modern women ACTUALLY want and what they ACTUALLY value. However, despite being the truth, it makes modern women look bad. So naturally it has to be demonized and destroyed.Plus, the system doesn't work if ENOUGH men aren't duped by the shit-test. If EVERY man has the cheat-sheet then the system will fail.
>>219267968Thought that was Ellen for a second
>>219269157even the OG of the manosphere Rollo Tomassi, author of the bible on women. their thoughts and behaviour - 'The Rational Male' so fucking much of it is how to fuck women good.My point is how many women are worrying about fucking men good? I have to wonder if the default for men isn't some kind of subservience. Maybe this worked better/ was a better deal in the past when women were socially forced to be more chaste and feminine. I know men have billions more neurons than women and perhaps men have just more empathy. True empathy is an expense- the brain is having a model not just of itself and how it is feeling but another person too. When women think about men it is exclusively self-centered and around tingles.
>>219268246>The manosphere is gynocentric in nature.Weird how women/feminists can't stop fear-mongering over it then.
>>219268787>I'm abandoning my Trump worshipThat bad huh?
>>219268472there is no right, just various left factions
>>219268472>They’ve been in power for several yearsLmao, and uopposed? News to me.
>>219268023Eggs are limiting in sexual reproduction and thus are rarer and in turn more valuable than sperm. Men need to create value in a different way, through creating, building, etc. Whether it's themselves, a company, art, its how they create value.Same reason women are generally less bad at doing things, it's effectively a hobby for them they don't actually need to.
>>219269420Men have to develop empathy for those weaker than them or else it becomes something like Islam where you can just gang rape women in the street just because. Of course that isn’t to say men should just toil endlessly & put up with women’s shit either. Just that it’s inescapable that there isn’t going to be SOME amount of concession/subservience to them.
>>219268935>no more comfy louis threads because he transitioned from making interesting documentaries about fringe weirdos to instead being a propagandist attack-dog in the service of the State, making scare-mongering propaganda over whatever boogeyman the State wants the Cattle to be frightened ofFixed that for you.This """documentary""" only got made because of the brouhaha over "Adolescence" and their current campaign fearmongeringover "Toxic Masculinity", btw.
>>219269423It’s all kayfabe bullshit apart of a much larger industrial complex. At the end of the day, the manosphere is not serious about actually doing anything about women. Nothing is stopping them right now from encouraging a mass exodus of men from dating apps to happen. After all,>More women than there are men>More women than there are chadsBut they won’t do it because they’re not serious. They instead keep enabling them with little to zero incentives. Women are arguably far more promiscuous now than they were before the manosphere.
>>219269782'arguably'???? That isn't in doubt. Kike tinder and onlyfans etc.
>>219267968YWNBAW
>>219269371The manosphere and wider system along side feminism should be destroyed. It all coddles women too much and you know it.
>>219269597How was it scaremongering? It’s just these guys saying the same exact shit they say in all of the stuff they post
>>219270061thank god
>>219269371The system is failing right now because women when not under any obligations simply just don’t want kids & even more damning just don’t like men that much.
>>219270490Making the manosphere into a scapegoat.
>>219270733then instead of blaming women for these choices they make we should take a look WHY they make these choices.if your entire social structure only works because you force people into a narrow path and it starts falling apart when people get actual options, then it was a shitty social structure to begin with.with how the labor market changed in the last century and how modern perspectives of career and independence looks like, the entire concept of the nuclear family needs to be on the table, it has to be expanded and re-thought from the ground up, starting a family has to be attractive again for young people, on a spiritual level, gen Z being poor isnt the sole issue for collapsing birthrates
>>219273792Yes we need old style marriage again. Unemancipate women. It's the only option. For their own good.
>>219267968>have multi-hour long conversation with someone over the course of multiple days>edit out entire context of conversation into 2 minute cherry-picked sound bites>ignore normal voices to hyper fixate on the fringe retardsThese "documentaries" are always pure shit and just distilled propaganda
>>219273792Evolutionary women have evolved to be dominated. Either they are dominated or they chase after the psychopathic 1% then settle for betabuxx if you're lucky. There is no other potential future.
>>219267968Honest question from a sandnigga anon:Is the west really this brutal and cold?The culture here is much tightly knit and not antagonistic.I grew up in a very poor part of the town in an apartment building and most houses would leave their front door openWomen would take care of each other's kids, men would bring gifts to wife's or their friends and overall the men/women relationship is much more genuine on a platonic or no platonic level.Even dating I've been with women who would be my rock when I was nothing and had no materialistic valueHell, my first gf would give me a ride to work and always stood by me.Is it western feminism movement? The gamification of the dating dynamic? Or superficial social media programing from internet randos with large following and a larger dunning Kruger?Even the concept of "you're leaving the house at 18" is unnecessarily cruel and individualistic.>Yeah when you're a young adult I'm gonna kick you out and not support youNo wonder they throw their parents in retirement homes to be abusee by blacks and browns.
>>219267968I love how much asspain Louie causes people, because most of the time all he does is just let the idiots talk, ask them follow up questions, and let them expose themselves as being idiots
>>219269423Not really. It's like how Jews actively identify by ethnicity above all else while fear mongering about others doing it.You can always win a war when the enemy can't even show up.
>>219274404>Is it western feminism movement?Feminism + multiculturalism + intentional division/class warfare by billionaire faggots
>>219267968>>women are born with valueHave you seen the women these guys hang around with?
>>219274404The West is very much a mixed bag. Guys who fall into the manosphere stuff usually haven't had the best luck in terms of being born into a community that can love and support them. >Even dating I've been with women who would be my rock when I was nothing and had no materialistic valueThis happens here too. In fact it's a common incel complaint, that a woman will be fiercely loyal to some degenerate jobless guy while passing up men that seem better on paper.Honestly, the fact that our women have so much freedom and so much disposable income means that, usually, if a white western woman is choosing you, it's because she actually loves you very deeply. All our understanding of relationships are based on that. But it also exposes us to unique kinds of pain, like those anons that unfortunately date a BPD girl who makes them feel loved and then leaves in a few months.
>>219274404Whites are subhuman that's why.
>>219268291Then why do they advocate for men to actually take parental leave and spend more time with their children? Why do they support women’s right to abortion which means men aren’t “forced to pay child support”? Why do they support universal daycare so that you don’t bankrupt yourself with childcare costs? Why do they support workplace safety regulations so that you don’t kill or severely injure yourself at work and if you do there is compensation for it? Why do they support better healthcare so that when you get badly sick you don’t bankrupt yourself? Why do they support talking about your problems and emotions instead of suppressing them and feeling miserable alone? Why do they support raising the minimum wage so that you can actually afford to live? Why do they support the EPA so that you don’t drink lead and get cancer because you actually regulate pollutants? Why did they create and support the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau which exists to protect people from financial fraud and exploitative practices and help people get refunds and cancellation of debts from financial institutions?Or is it simply because they don’t solely pander white men that translates to “hating” them because you’re too stupid to understand that helping everyone helps men too?
>>219273792Because they’re infantile & selfish bimbos who if permitted to will pick themselves over everybody including civilization itself. You people just need to get over the fact women can’t get their shit together & only ever did it if they were coaxed into it
>>219273941a society that excludes 50% of their population from public, political, and economical life will always be weaker than one who doesnt.you can meme about le dumb women all you want, but they are needed in pretty much every sector of modern society
>>219268472Socially right wing with an economically left (non-marxian) socialist economy is the answer to everything.Conservative communities can actually be conservative only through a removal of most, if not all, market pressure.
>>219274404It's all true, the west is very insane, narcissistic, and cold. The only people who don't think so are the same mentally ill faggots who make this place a hellhole to live in
>>219274908>a society that excludes 50% of their population from public, political, and economical life will always be weaker than one who doesnt.Why? Seems like the west is getting fucked by literally everyone these days. I don't think we really need fake HR jobs to keep women employed, I think it's actually a massive waste of money
>>219274495Him burning that one dude's relationship was out of character, warranted nonetheless.
>>219274908They're not excluded. They're being rechanneled into a kind of work that's more important: reproducing, child rearing, and communal support. In the same way men are rechanneled into military positions in times of crisis.
>>219274971And of course it’s all the women’s fault and not the system itself that was built by men and to this day is still very much controlled by men in politics and financial circles.
>>219274974That relationship was toxic from the beginning and all he did was ask some very obvious questions
>>219275040Did you reply to the wrong post? That doesn't give me any kind of answer. Weird
>>219268266Women don't value those men, they just fuck them and then write about how it was rape
>>219274927Like China? Although they’re not free market really
>>219274404No, you are falling for the same retarded shit I already pointed out >>219273965
>>219275349Yes, basically. Though China's problem is that they're too obsessed with making massive cities which is a holdover from their former obsession with Marxism/Sovietism.Western right-socialism should emphasize the protection and support of rural centers and regional ways of life.
>>219269375KEK