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His hands were literally too small to wrap around that throat, let alone enough to properly squeeze.
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>>219287160
>ugh, like, AI cannot draw hands
>meanwhile western animators
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>>219287160
I guess my biggest question is, why did this kill him but getting his skull smashed into fucking paste onscreen didn't?
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>>219287160
The trachea is in the front on the neck, all you need to do is apply forward pressure to squeeze it shut and stop airflow
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>>219287160
was pissed at first for conquest not doing anything to stop mark from choking him but now I realize he deserved to die for his stupidity
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>>219287268
plot
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As someone who has done the "chokeout game" in my teens, you don't need to squeeze the neck at all
You just need your thumbs to pressure the internal jugular veins which will lead to lack of oxygen in the brain and it'll make you pass out
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>>219287268
smart atoms
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>>219287268
Apparently for Viltrumites if their brain or heart survives their injuries, they'll live.
I found that weird because Nolan genuinely thought he killed Lucan, but did not damage the heart or brain.
Maybe it's due to Nolan never having killed a Viltrumite before, or never seeing one die not due to a disease(?)
Or maybe Viltrumites can actually die without having their brain or heart damaged, not sure, but I guess the explanation here was Conquest brain stopped getting oxygen or blood and he actually died.
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>>219287268
Grappling>striking
Simple as.
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>>219287160
don't have to cover the entire neck
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>>219287160
If they're going to show Mark getting eviscerated, they could have also had Mark digging into Conquest's neck with his fingers and crushing/ripping out the throat and veins.
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i thought viltrumites can hold their breath for a long time in space, this really shouldnt fuck conquest that much unless he really was just suicidal
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>>219287160
Blood choke on the carotid could work
I don't watch tv let alone slop, so I don't really care
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>>219289184
>Dive under water: fine
>Choke on food: dead
>"I thought humans could hold their breath for several minutes, why did he choke to death in 45 seconds?"
Also fighting in space uses a lot of oxygen, Nolan flying around for weeks was much less exhausting, though I wonder how he slept without dying accidently, people said apparently he stopped at habitable planets and breathed occasionally, maybe he slept there too
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>>219288896
>Watch me demonstrate on Poots
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>>219289436

Where's the rest?
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>>219287160
Mark was cutting the airflow not the blood flow
>>219289184
IIRC Conquest didnt contain much air before going to space, so when they reentered the planet in their fight, Conquest was already out of air
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I just hate how for once it seemed like they were making Mark "tougher" and less of a retard and then.. he just leaves himself exposed like that. I get the rage part. I understand the story they were telling. By the 300th sausage link it was getting a bit silly though. A rear choke like >>219289436 showcases would be more what I would expect after Mark brutalized him a bit more.
Oh well at least magic dna will let him heal if they put some ductape over it after shoving the guts back in. Hope they keep bearded mark if he grows a beard like an anon was saying.
Guy needs to stop being such a bitch.
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Why did they bring the ironman chick with? What value did she bring?
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>>219291114
The suit was in one of nolan's book. Apparently it is a dude in the comics. I kinda liked the dad, wish he would've come along with their ship.
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>>219287268
Im going to assume the show is ass because this one the best fights in the comics. He first slammed conquest into the planet to force all the air out of his lungs then proceeded to suffocate him
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>>219291342
They fight on the planet for awhile and it isn't so bad but mark just leaves himself wide fucking open for ages and it makes no sense beyond "he was really mad ok?"
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>>219291342
Give me QRD what the show did instead
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>>219291397
It pisses me off to no end how gay they made conquest, he just HAS to he misunderstood. He cant just be a raging prick
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>>219291525
I liked the added bit of personal stuff between him and Mark. I didn't see it as making him weak. It was told to someone he was fighting to the death with in confidence. Out of respect.
I get what you're saying but I don't think it came across that way at least to me. He's a tough fucking asshole and will do what needs to be done, he just realizes the cost. His relationships are in battle and they are very short.
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do you guys understand that having air in your lungs is not enough
it actually have to be transported to your brain or you die
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>>219291342
That's exactly what happens. It's lame and ridiculous, just as I'm sure it was in your gay little comics.
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>>219291342
>>219291397
Not to mention if you can just put your hands right through someone’s guts, and AFTER you are almost passed out and low on strength, why wait until the last second to do that. He could have ended the fight at any moment apparently. Not like mark was ever really defending himself
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>>219291433
well they never went back into space
conquest gets dragged across the surface of the planet for a bit then he rips marks guts open, digging them out of his stomach before passing out dying
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>>219291625
No, I expect a 2000 word essay on my desk by morning about the respiratory and regeneration capabilities of the viltrumites.
>>219291663
>Not like mark was ever really defending himself
That is what bugged me about it. You're finally showing Mark is "getting it" after making him weak for season after season. But then he basically goes full ragetard. IF he had linked it to Eve or something I would get it more but he basically went full retard with 0 concern for anyone else and that has been the opposite of his character.
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>>219287595
>You just need your thumbs to pressure the internal jugular veins
this. you could even cause someone to blackout just using one thumb on one side of a neck
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reminder that eve will get an abortion
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>>219291781
Can you even abort that? Fetus might just say fuckin "no" kek
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>>219287160
You never choked a girl while fucking her? You push on the windpipe
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>>219291433
>>219291342
Basically did the same thing, but less dialogue making the winding part less obvious. I think the duration of the battle is shorter too?

>>219291525
The show made him both. He's legitimately an unstable psychopath, he's just not arbitrarily an unstable pyschopath.

>>219291663
I took to be a last ditch attack. He stomps his foot on the ground to provide the footing and leverage he needed and gets a decisive blow on mark but it isn't enough.

Honestly looking back, the underlying battle was one of will and Conquest assumed the entire time he had an ace in the hole whith the viltrumite handshake. When he did it and mark just kept choking him that was probably the first real moment he was like "oh fuck" he didn't go down. From Conquest's perspective winning that confrontation was to make make stop choking him on his own terms. Actually reminds me of Gon vs that bomber guy in Hunter x hunter.
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I don't understand how every fight against a viltrumite by the main cast isn't just immediately slashing open their abdomin and pulling their heart out. Nolan knows this btw. And he spends his time punching the guys that ambushed the cruser
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>>219291934
Headcanon is it's very stoppable and puts you at risk doing it. A punch uses their whole strength and can only be dodged or blocked. The slice has much less strength and speed and leaves you open to having the hand grabbed and the fingers crushed which will mean you can't even punch with that hand now.
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>>219291934
it's like you tried to slash open bruce lee
it's not so easy
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>>219292186
kek bruce lee was a midget with good pr
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as someone into choking sexually, i can confirm that this is pretty solid choking form, definitely could kill

p.s. if a girl wants to be choked, start by covering her mouth and nose instead of going straight for the jugular, you'll thank me later
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>>219287160


LOOK AT AN ANATOMICAL DIAGRAM OF THE TRACHEA.

DID YOU NOT GO TO SCHOOL?
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>>219291342
I know counselors who would send you to an institution if they found this comic book on you.
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>>219287160
Was this the season finale?
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>>219287595
>veins
>lack of oxygen in the brain
Should have spent more time paying attention to basic fucking anatomy during bio class in your teens. Veins don't supply oxygen to tissues, arteries do. You need to occlude arteries to deprive organs of oxygen, both carotids in case of the brain.
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>>219291781
Also, she gets fat, and of course the black guy tries to fuck her while Mark's not looking.
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>finally find a viper weapon that i actually like
>its from m12s
its so nyover...
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>>219292888
Theyre too busy molesting you
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>>219293019
Doesn't she sleep with a blue alien?



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