>supposed to be an emotional moment where Mike becomes the thing he hates>the message instead is that Germans are terminally stupid and will skip work at the earliest convenience even at the risk of deathWhat did Vince mean by this?
>>219313054I think Werner was just really naive like Gale was. Neither of them really accepted that they were working for immoral people.
Werner was just an idiot who got in too deep and didn't realize who he was dealing with
>>219313054Honestly I agree, this was the dumbest moment in the series for me. All this fucker had to do was just sit down and work for a few more months and he would have gone home a millionaire and spent the rest of his life fucking his wife to his hearts content.Instead he just had to leave, he just had to see his wife as if she wasn't completely fine at home, it would have been better written if his wife was suddenly terminally ill or got in a serious accident or something, then it would have made sense for him to desperately want to leave work, instead he just had to see her for no reason. Fucking moron, he deserved to die. He knew what he signed up for.And the series tries to convince you it's a sad moment and you have to feel bad, boo fucking hoo.
>>219313293>>219313222When you have to fry multiple security cameras and file the padlocks off roof doors, you should probably stop and wonder right? This is after being blackbagged to the site.
>>219313346>All this fucker had to do was just sit down and work for a few more monthsYou just described every character in the Breaking Bad universe
>>219313459I mean I think he knew intellectually but in his heart still believed that he wouldn't be in huge trouble for his trivial transgression or could at least talk his way out of it.And to be fair he was half right because Mike really didn't want to kill him.
>>219313054I really thought there was some bigger conspiracy at play here, the way he acted before the blast and had the area all to himself briefly, the talking to his wife on the phone bit being an easy mirror of Mike spotting the phony at the widowers group, the entire escape plan, all pointed to him being a saboteur for a rival or something, but no, he really was just a dumbass.
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>>219313459When you're forced to live in a fake neighborhood in like an underground bunker? Geez maybe these guys are doing some crazy shit
>>219313459Germans genuinely lack common sense. it's simply a trait that never evolved in them and it's why they've lost almost every war they've ever been involved in
Having worked with Germans, it's accurate. The seniors are used to getting a slap on the wrist no matter what because they think they're integral to the project, and can't conceive of a harsher punishment. Werner had no idea who he was dealing with until it finally clicked in the middle of the desert that he can't talk his way out of this one, because he's going to die.>gets explicitly warned about talking about the project>spills everything to a guy on the phone claiming to be an employee
>>219313965Germans seem to be really good at losing when they could win it all if they weren't so stupid.
>>219313054this show is impossible to rewatch because of how dumb it is
>>219313054>all of Mikes solid guys can know the full operation and don’t have to live in an aircraft hanger>built an underground tunnel through a residential neighborhood somehow
South wall... pouring conc KREET?
>>219313346>it would have been better written if his wife was suddenly terminally ill or got in a serious accident or somethingyeah it would have been corny but it would have made much better sense at least
>>219315808It's fine if you stick to the first three seasons
They really don’t explain how he got a secretly coded message to his wife somehow do they
so did Lalo fuck his wife
>>219314011Curse of the tism
>>219313054The whole plotline with the Germans made me want to tear my own eyes out. It was so boring and it did nothing more than clumsily explain how Gus managed to carve out the space needed for the superlab. That was not worth like 1/4 of the show's runtime.
>>219319036It was barely something that needed explaining to begin with. I figured he just hired people
>>219316620What's he up to man what is he doing?
>>219319036>>219319091Gus didn't need to be in the show at all, there's really nothing new or groundbreaking you can do with his backstory.Michael's arc in season one of BCS was decent but then they clearly had no idea where to go with him so they had to hamfist in some Gus bullshit.
>>219313222Gail makes absolutely no implication, what so ever, that he feels remorse about cooking meth.When confronted by Jesse he says, "I have money. Lots of money." when a fucking guy with a gun opens his door, which directly contradicts this notion he was naive.He knew exactly what the fuck he was doing.
>>219319036>>219319091glad i'm not the only one who thinks this waythey introduced lydia and peter schuler (that german that was running madrigal) in season 5 out of nowhere, but instead of expanding on THAT part of gus and explaining why schuler doesn't just ditch gus entirely, they get relegated to a fucking cameo and instead fucking half of season 4 and 5 is spent on how the superlab was builtseriously, why did they do this? what was the logic behind this? it's not like it's some obscure one off mention like lalo, it was right fucking there.
>>219313459Normal for any military contract
>>219319262Michaels story in BB barely makes sense to begin with. Him being introduced as Saul’s PI that kinda has a connection to a guy that even Saul doesn’t know and being slowly escalated to basically running Gus’ entire operation. For some reason though he was still doing grunt jobs for Saul and hanging out in his office during the day even while he was officially on Madrigal’s payroll
>>219319581It's funny because Mike was only created as a stand-in for Saul because Bob Odenkirk was busy with HIMYM during the filming of that episode.
>>219319581Yeah I agree but I think it's fair to gloss over that a bit because the characters clearly weren't fully formed when they were introduced in BB.And there's a few ways you can explain it away, like Michael trying to keep his significance with Gus's operation under wraps by doing low level PI jobs, or even as a money laundering angle.
>>219313948Calm down noseberg
>>219313346>And the series tries to convince you it's a sad moment and you have to feel bad, boo fucking hoo.No, I think it was supposed to be as frustrating as you clearly found it. Vrabo Bince.
The show is literally called "better caul Saul", you know its pozzed kike slop from the start
>>219319816bot post
>>219314011>Germany was close to winning!Nothing germs did was sustainable long term.People forget that WW2 lasted only 6 years.
>>219313054You sound polish.
>>219319742Saul was simply useful to him and his PI stuff was like a hobby to him.
>>219319895Yeah that too, you could say he was doing it to stay connected to the underworld.
>>219313054This would've never happened in Germany
>>219319311Yeah but he called himself a libertarian. He didn't think that there was anything wrong with making/selling/consuming meth. I think he did have a problem with murder (it violates the NAP).Also it's reasonable to try to bribe someone to not kill you.
>>219320031>(it violates the NAP)some middle aged German boomer describing himself as libertarian doesn't mean he follows the modern day ANCAP meme understanding of it, like he's canonically killed before that stuff even came into being kek
>>219319581>For some reason though he was still doing grunt jobs for SaulUntil the laundromat project Mike had lots of free time to kill, and his goal was to provide as much money for his grand daughter as possible. Also he had some weird kind of respect for Jimmy too Mike turns down the alpine shephard boy job from Jimmy because he sensed Jimmy was only doing it to act out after Chucks death.
>>219320072Did you not watch the show?I wasn't talking about Werner I was talking about Gale. Werner never cooked meth nor called himself a libertarian. Gale did.
>>219313222>Werner was just really naivegermans are never naive, they just like following authority
The entire show is boring pointless shit. I didn't need to see how Jimmy became Saul. I didn't need to see how Gus built his lab. I didn't need to see how Hector became a vegetable. Prequels suck.
>>219319838Oy vey! Shut it down!
What we really need is another prequel showing how Chuck developed his electricity sensitivity thing. That or a prequel showing how Howard's marriage started to fall apart and how he got depression.
>>219320335Oh sorry I thought you meant WernerYeah I can picture Gail posting ANCAP memes on Reddit
>>219320392(you)
>>219320546Well I'm not making this up he literally says>I'm definitely a libertarian.That's an actual line in Breaking Bad.Plus he's got a Ron Paul sticker on his car.BTW ancap isn't an initialism it's a portmanteau so it shouldn't be all caps
>>219313054>Warner knows the secrecy is fucking serious and that compound is a fortress>chooses to screw it and intends on going back>because he couldn't be apart from his wife for 6 monthsTo be fair I think it's partially Mike's fault, Werner asked for it and Mike just rejected it.If they can visit strip clubs Mike could probably arranged a meeting with Warner and his wife far away from the site and without Lalo tracing them
>>219320622Lalo was borderline psychic. He would've found them easily.
>>219313508Gus would have probably killed Walter after Gale learned the process, because Walter was always a liability.
>>219320606It rings a bell, I was actually thinking when I thought you meant Werner that I don't remember him saying anything like that, or anything at all to really justify his involvement with a drug empire, in fact he seems fairly ignorant of it.>BTW ancap isn't an initialism it's a portmanteau so it shouldn't be all capsNoted, thank you.
>>219320642Gus didn't even want to work with Walter to begin with. Gale was his preferred chemist and he only went along with Walter because Gale was impressed with the blue meth. BCS shows that Gus was already planning on working with Gale like 4-5 years before the BB events even happened.
>>219313222Pretty sure the loads of money they were being paid made it clear there was no morality involved.
>>219320646My point is that Werner and Gale are alike not in their politics (AFAIK Werner never said or did anything political) but in their naivety. Gale certainly didn't think that what he was doing was immoral, but he didn't consider or ignored the immoral things his boss was doing or at least was willing to do, and I think Werner is the same way in that his crime is a victimless one and he thinks that his boss is basically a decent person like he is.
>>219320747There's nothing immoral about making a lot of money. At least nobody was hurt (until some people were hurt). I actually used to think like this. Once upon a time I thought >Why shouldn't I get into the illegal drug market? I don't think doing drugs is morally wrong, nor is selling them, so why not be be the guy to give people what they want?I was too naive to perceive that the market because of its illegal nature is dominated by villains and an honest man doesn't belong in it.
>>219320642>Walt tells Jesse that his formula is just basic chemistry>genius chemist Gale can't figure it out
>>219313965Exactly this. He took the whole thing lightly and thought he’d just get a scolding. Especially since he was buddies with Mike which gave him the impression it was a friendly work environment.
>random corner cholos can know Gus’ secret identity as meth kingpin >Mike’s infinite supply of amoral guns for hire (solid) can know his entire operation inside and out he’s a very careful man
>>219321073>>random corner cholos can know Gus’ secret identity as meth kingpin gr8 b8 m8
>>219321105Did you forget the face-to-face mediation session? It was kind of pivotal in the story.
>>219313054apparently if it weren't for Lalo tracking them down Werner had a chance to be spared and indeed just gotten a slap on the wrist, specially with Mike becoming friends with him
