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Now that the dust has settled...
What went wrong with this series?
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>>219326736
First was kino, second was a lazy retread, third actually tried to be a bit of a different thing and everyone hated it for no reason, so the fourth was a lazy retread again
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>>219326736
Ana De Armas being a girlboss
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>>219326736
The need to escalate everything with every installments. Action scenes became less realistic as it goes on (although it being stylized is the whole point). Characters became wayy too invincible, people shit on Fast and Furious for making characters invincible but John Wick does the same, the only difference is that he gets torn up badly. The lore becomes needlessly convuluted, I cringed at the end of 2 where every single people in the park are part of the network.
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>make a one shot movie that does well because it's made with love and the actors like a fun fresh script
>studio wants to milk this cow till it's dead
>start some ridiculous worldbuilding and tune up the action until it's marvel slop tier anime shit
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It became a self-parody in the second entry and there was no coming back from that
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>>219326842
>fresh script
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>>219326736
They should just be more retarded and make the bad guy get to use robots. Just let the stakes do whatever they want, JW 5 is AI Keanu vs Giant Robots and is now a outright superhero.
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>>219326901
>They should just be more retarded
They are pretty retarded. Most of these action gimmicks are there to make you roll your eyes in merriment.
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>>219326736
Went from action to super hero. The bullet proof suit was retarded.
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>>219326736

>What went wrong with this series?

It shouldn't have been a franchise in the first place. The first movie is more than enough.
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>>219327460
They should have gone directly to miniseries spinoff and done that decently.
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I think the 4 John Wick movies are fun. Halle Berry is still so fucking hot. 4 was a little overindulgent though, way too long.
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it just kept getting more stupid. the blind guy parrying bullets was too much for me.
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I was okay with it becoming an anime but at least pay it off. The big bad being some clown killed it for me. And the big conclusion is Wick just taking a bullet because of all the 1000 people he killed, he felt bad about this one chink.
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>>219326736
They tried to make a greater "universe".
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>>219326736
Nothing, all four films are enjoyable in an era where I literally never enjoy anything.
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>What went wrong with this series?
the bad guy didn't just shoot wick in the head after capturing him.
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>>219328867
>but muh gangster underworld rulebook
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>>219328867
He had a chat and then delegated the execution to a trusted henchman no less capable of it than him, with no loss of control at any point in that process. The actual mistake was leaving the room with his bodyguards before the execution and allowing a 2-on-1 opportunity.
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First ran on still camera work in a world of shakycam. Had fantastic choreography. Dropped little hints that expanded the world and made it somewhat intriguing and charming. Second and beyond ruined all imagination by answering questions that didn't need answering. It overstuffed the pig and became vomit and shit. Action sequences became less about absorbing the scene and good choreography, and more about "how much more outlandish bullshit can we put in the scene." Typical sequelitis.
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They practically became gun advertisements. No one would remember the KSG shotgun if it weren't for John Wick. And Staccato 2011's wouldn't have had their huge marketing push either
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>>219326736
nothing, 4 is a masterpiece
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>>219329340
People interested in such things would have seen the Keltech elsewhere and most people who hadn't seen it wouldn't be able to distinguish beyond shotgun.
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>>219329564
You can't deny even in the gun community a lot of people never heard about Staccato before John Wick came out
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>>219328162
>>219329527

This.
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>>219329689
Sure, but the KSG was known.



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