highly doutbt it. there must have been thousands of animation work in the past 5 years. if not tens of thousands

>>219376674
then post one that is worse. I wanna see

>>219376933
umukijana

>>219376641
One punch man season 3
Berserk 2016

>>219377313
that's an internet animation. We're talking about real TV and movies, but I guess I should have specified that

>>219376641
OPM season 2, and if you're not buying that then season 3 is worse.

>>219376641
It isn't even that bad it is just unfinished.
>Introduce dinoman character that is supposed to be super tough and strong
>he looks smooth like a salamander due to 0 detail of any kind on him even close up
or another one they do all the time:
>Invincible takes up 60+% of the screen and is in a fight struggling. 0 muscle flex, no detailing on the abs, arms, legs, anything.
I don't want fuckin Rob Liefeld tier shit or something but give me a tiny bit of detail to show these are actual warriors and not smoothskin fatbodies?

>>219376641
I'd 95% of jap animation is clearly much worse I mean look at one punch man fucking hell

>>219378224
Season 2 is great compared to Invincible.

>>219377657
then watch opm s2 or 3, or maybe don't its just still images with dialogue and bad "music over it

>>219378484
lmao the conquest fight alone in s2 is so much better then anything in opm s2 its not even comparable

>>219376641
Uzumaki
Blue lock s2
Every anime season has a couple of slideshows

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-6wHGkn2Dc
>the girl power segment of the show looks like it is the draft copy
kek

>>219376641
>make tech jacket into a hapa girl
why is nobody talking about it? it was a final straw for me

>>219378669
>girl power
>breaks her hand
ok, if thats what "girl power" is these days idk what anyones complaining about

>>219378752
tek jacket? really, tek jacket? the most boring supe in the invincible universe, lmao sure yep you are super upset about it

>>219378453
Are you embarrassed? You should be embarrassed. Look at what you just said.

>>219376641
Search for "one punch man png slide"

>>219378797
It is being lauded as this girlboss moment meanwhile in reality it is another example of women being allowed to act way beyond their "borders."
This is a creature who killed thousands just to try and make his son snap out of his bitchfit. She should be cowering in the corner begging him to please spare her. Instead she's in his face screaming and hitting him.
Not only does she impotently rage at him and cares way more about him fucking some bug bitch after they split than the thousands of people he killed using her son's face, she fucks her own hand up doing so. The "super evil meanie man" feels bad for her and wishes he could help. This singular moment made her look like one of the biggest retards on the show. Which is telling given the storylines going on.

they literally have north koreans animating it

>>219378854
lmao get your jap shit out of here its 795% an embarrassment

>>219378973
>It is being lauded as this girlboss moment
really is it? by who exactly?

>>219378453
Kill yourself retarded ESL

>>219378973
did you just make up an entire narrative in your head about this ep and then post it? who is lauding this? who is calling this a "girlboss moment" what the hell are you talking about?

>>219379074
jap cartoons fans really are delusional aren't you?

>>219379058
>>219379144
thou doth protest too much

>>219379181
so you did just make up some shit in then post it, thats hilarious

>In Season 4 Episode 5 of Invincible, a long-awaited showdown finally erupts, one that has been building since Season 1. It is a clash between true equals, where neither side holds a clear advantage, and the stakes are as emotional as they are physical. This battle promises not just devastation, but consequences that will leave lasting scars.

>In Episode 5, titled “Give Us a Moment,” Debbie Grayson (Sandra Oh) speaks her mind to her ex-husband Omni-Man, a.k.a. Nolan (J.K. Simmons), face-to-face, where the two have it out.

>The last time Debbie confronted Nolan was after discovering his brutal, secret actions in Season 1, where she realized he had murdered the Guardians of the Globe. She confronts him regarding his betrayal, his condescending attitude, and the danger he placed their family in, acting as the grounded voice of humanity against him. Now, years later, Nolan has returned to recruit her sons for war, and well, she is less than thrilled about the situation.

>>219379181
lmao you just made it up didn't you?

>>219379210
>>219379263
KEK why are you so bootyblasted by something you know happened all over "social media" and your favorite discord and subreddits?
Weird behavior.

>>219379261
wait no this is even better, you read a synopsis then imagined something that didn't happen and then made shit up, holy fuck why even bother? if you aren't even going to watch the show then what the fuck are you doing? that is so pathetic don't you have anything better to do?

>>219379372
So this is that projection thing I keep hearing about.

>>219379310
what
>social media?
what are you talking about? you literally read a synopsis made shit up then came here to complain about said thing you made up ,that is hilarious and really really sad.

>>219379058
>>219379144
>>219379210
>>219379263
>>219379372
>>219379417
This may be one of the most pathetic things I've seen on /tv/ in awhile. The hill you picked to die on... is an unfinished scene from an amazon cartoon? Wow.

>>219379405
yep never even watched the show, just read a wiki page then started getting mad about it, a true zoomer moment, I mean damn that is just...I can't stop laughing tbqhwy

>>219379466
>In Season 4 Episode 5 of Invincible, a long-awaited showdown finally erupts, one that has been building since Season 1. It is a clash between true equals, where neither side holds a clear advantage, and the stakes are as emotional as they are physical. This battle promises not just devastation, but consequences that will leave lasting scars.
>It is a clash between true equals
>NOOOOOO IT NEVER HAPPENED NO ONE THINKS DEBBIE IS SOME STRONG GIRLBOSS
kek

>>219379454
wait you are serious/ what is this social media thing you were talking about? this lauded girl power scene? did you want to give an example? you ridiculous lolcow

>Is this the worst animation work of the past 5 years?
Here's the budget breakdown:
>60%
J.K. Simmons
>30%
(((Union fees))) and other bureaucratic bullshit
>10%
Animation

>maybe people won't post about how bad the show looks if I have a meltdown about a scene I didn't understand and spam about it over and over

>>219379210
>>219379263
>>219379372
you sound mad

>>219379497
as I said you read a wiki page then started complaining about something you never actually watched I mean their is wasting time their is attemping to b8 and then their is you, what the fuck are you trying to do you moron? this is the most pathetic attempt to rage bait I have ever seen, if you haven't even watched the show then why are you even embarrassing yourself like this?

>219379584
you tried/10
No one is buying it.

>>219379577
>>219379569
you sound stupid and you are, this is laughable seriously its honestly the most retarded thing I've seen on /tv/ all week stay triggered about shitty jap cartoons btw,better luck next time, holy shit you've made my night

It is impressive how any thread about this show will be filled with absolute retards discussing anything BUT the show. The few threads about it always have the most obvious brownoids lashing out randomly for post after post clearly not understanding what they even talking about after the first or second tirade.
At least the severance threads had the webmposter.

>219379653
no (((you)))s for (((poo)))s sorry lil bro

>>219379622
no-one needs to buy anything you idiotic chuklefuck, you see we just dl shit and everyone who wants to watch the show already has and knows your nothing but a weeb wiki reading retard. Please keep embarrassing yourself btw this is gold

>>219379693
>I know I'll call him a jeet thats save me, damn close one
no sorry it doesn't work like that keep on being a lol cow you retarded weeb

>we
kek

>>219379653
uh oh guys we have a capeslop redditor fanboy in here

>219379709
>219379756

>he's still seething into the wind
KEK

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>>219376641
Should stop the denial and just AI animate the whole fucking thing.

>>219379764
oh didn't clarify We doesn't include you good little goy paying for your jap cartoons like the good like retard you are

>>219376641
There are literally hundreds of anime that come out each year with powerpoint-slideshow levels of animation. Invincible is the worst in terms of budget to quality ration though.

>219379769
>dammit jap cartoons or as we weebs like to call them anime are important and an art form, stop criticizing them that isn't what this thread was suppose to be about REEEEEE

They blew their budget on hiring big name retards to voice act instead of being smart and hiring nobodies for pennies on the dollar.

>219379859
>u-ur a weeb
KEK amazing

>>219380019
no weebs aren't amazing just really sad

>>219376641
I think the Invincible animated show does a terrible disservice to the comics. the animation in particular is ass, and only a few of the changes when it comes to the writing are for the better. Now, worst in the past 5 years? How can anyone say that when shit like Mr. Birchum exists.

>>219376641
Pantheon beats it and it is only 2 seasons. Starts as teenage drama but ends up as quite nice cyberpunk.

So now that the self hating anime fan has his goon session done can we talk about how the show is ugly and the plot is retarded? No? Ok.

>>219376641
Nah, it is absolutely dogshit. It's embarrassing.

>>219380266
lets talk about how fucking awful most anime looks for a while instead,it seems to trigger that fag so much

>>219376641
the standards for american animation are so low that this is in the upper half of quality

>>219380335
I seriously wanted to shitpost about Invincible for like a week now but every fucking thread has multiple retards like that. It is crazy. You'd almost think they were assigned shifts or something how quickly it happens.

>>219376641
Isn't that show's animation literally outsourced to North Korea?

>>219380483
you can't start a thread with
>worst animation ever
and not except anime fags

>>219376641
The animation really isn't bad, I don't get what people are talking about.
To be fair, I watch a lot of anime so this looks a lot better in comparison.

>>219380516
kek fair enough on this one, but it is a general issue with any thread on the show. Anyone wanting to actually talk about it negative or positive is drowned out by shitflingers having infights with their multiple personalities.

>>219380612
That's because you get used to it after watching it. When I first started watching it I thought it looked like cheap ass YouTube flash animation

>>219376641
Not really. It's shit, but there an enormous amount of animated shit out there.

>>219380612
seriously you can watch >>219378669 and not laugh at how bad it is? This shit looks like a rough draft your new trainee gives you week 1. Not a final product on a paid streaming service lauded as one of its main draws.

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>>219376641
For sure.

Jews lie about how much everything costs in Hollywood so they can pocket the difference. That and hollywood is big on DEI hires who suck at their job which gives jews an even bigger excuse to keep pocketing money

>>219380784
If you think that is bad wait until you learn about "insurance" and loans on big capeshit movies and whatnot these days.

>>219380653
true enough

>>219376641
Too much outsourcing.

>American comicbook
>Normally American companies like Disney or WB cartoons would animate it.
>But Americans outsource the animation to Japan.
>Japanese are notorious cheapskates.
>They take American money and accept the job, but outsource the work to South Korea
>South Korea is the lowest level of animation in the entire industry.
>By the time it reaches South Korea, barely any budget is left for animation.
>SK animators do bare minimum work.

It's just an exercise in how many hands they can shove in the pot before the money runs out.

>>219382237
>japan
kek
anon this shit is made in chinese slopfarms the companies on top aren't doing any of the actual work.

>>219380756
>Invincible Season 4 is estimated to cost approximately \(\$2.5\) million to \(\$3\) million per episode to produce.
embarrassing

>>219382457
All of it was spent on >>219378669 this scene.

>>219378669
you guys should see the literal static image that was up for the 5 minutes leading up to this

>>219376641
Seeing the popularity of this complete turd just reaffirmed my belief that normalcattle genuinely doesn't care whatsoever what they watch. They would watch colors randomly moving across the screen if the advertisement would make it seem important, guaranteed.

>>219382523
kek them floating in the sky? Some of it is so lazy it is unreal.
The dinosaur faggot from earlier in the season is a perfect example.
>What the fuck is a scale?

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>>219378453
>one punch man
Doesn't look nearly as bad

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>>219378797
its about how she wasn't afraid of putting him in his heckin place for being incel while even the ZOG defense force was shitting itself too scared to intercept him

>>219382457
if the whole budget is going to the cast why even bother making it an animation, its such a waste of time, talent, etc..

>>219382799
Which makes no sense as I can understand her yelling at him but after the first shrill cry out she should've been like OH WHAT THE FUCK AM I THINKING and start cowering in front of him begging him not to kill her. This is a dude who took his own son and ran him through a subway car just to prove a point and try to "snap" his kid out of what the guy sees as a wrong way of thinking.
Debbie's rage makes total sense but there should also be fear. The suit guy is a pretty solid example though even he was a bit out of line a few times. Not in that he isn't warranted in what he said, but this is a guy who can obliterate the whole planet for fun if he really felt like it.
Then again it is a pretty realistic portrayal of a woman to have her be completely oblivious to her place in life. Complete with violence with no concept that she could be hit in return for her actions and unearned smugness that she is "above him."

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>did you just make up an entire narrative in your head about this ep and then post it? who is lauding this? who is calling this a "girlboss moment" what the hell are you talking about?

>OMG DEBBIE IS SERIOUSLY SUCH A QUEEN
kek

>>219376641
>This show is edgy, bro. anyone can die just like episode 1!!

4 seasons later
literally no relevant villain stays dead
everyone just respawns like it’s a live-service game
even trash-tier heroes like duplikate get infinite retries

>insane fight scenes, peak animation like in S1 ending
Yeah, one good episode per season if we’re lucky
rest looks like a powerpoint with blood splatter

>It has grounded take on superheroes, real high stakes”
what stakes? nobody important ever dies. fake tension every arc

>Stacked voice cast, hype villains
every major villain gets defeated
comes back later like nothing happened
rinse repeat

>Conquest shows up
>actually intimidating for once
>jeffrey dean morgan carries hard
>dies
>comes back (of course)
>gets like 10 minutes screentime
>dies again chasing some useless kid instead of doing literally anything important
>Teen chick Iron Man fucks up adult scary Viltrumites tho

Dropped

>>219376641
The worst part about these fights is how poorly they are planned.
Essentially follows the same formula:
>Marks gets overwhelmed and beaten up
>It looks like he is done for
>After spending 80% of the fight being a punching bag, he begins winning for no reason
Like, there is no strategy; he rarely outsmarts anyone.
So, it is fake/lazy tensions because the creators have nothing.

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>>219376641
https://thedirect.com/article/invincible-tv-race-bending-characters
>When Season 1 came out, you discussed some changes made to the series in terms of diversity of the characters: Mark being Korean American for example, and Amber being Black. Representation on screen has been talked about so much since then — how much of that was on your mind when you were working on Season 2?

>Kirkman: That's something that's been really important to us. We have to recognize that a couple of dumb white guys made this comic book in the early 2000s. And there was a real lack of diversity in that series. And also, with the Invincible character himself, we talked to fans at all the conventions and places we would go, and because his ethnicity was ambiguous in the comics, everyone identified with him. We would have Filipino fans come up and say, I'm so excited that you made Mark Filipino, we would have Mexican fans come up and say, we're so excited that you made Mark Mexican. And it was just amazing to see how important representation is on a personal level when you're face-to-face with a person.

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>>219376641
>>219385794

>on tonight's episode of "/tv/ endlessly bitches about something everyone else is enjoying and not taking too seriously"...

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>>219385909

>>219385942
kek. Good one anon

It's fine. People complaining about the animation are losers.

>>219385794
She looks so ugly in comics holy shit.
Nice curves tho.
Anyone else hates Mark as a character? He reminds me of that one dude who was the most handsome in class and was too much of a normie but somehow girls threw themselves at him all the time? Or that one friend who you're mogging all life and then you both turn 18 and suddenly he's model tier charismatic specimen.
Fuck Mark Grayson honestly. He's retarded

>>219385992
Writing is dogshit. Only S1 was good.

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>>219376641
>>219385794
>>219385847
I find funny that they're okay with graphic gore, but feel the need to censor the tits

>>219385794
>because his ethnicity was ambiguous in the comics, everyone identified with him. We would have Filipino fans come up and say, I'm so excited that you made Mark Filipino, we would have Mexican fans come up and say, we're so excited that you made Mark Mexican.
Yeah, so then they decided to make his mother explicitly Korean
Even their own "logic" doesn't make any sense and contradicts itself

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>>219385992
kwab
nah it is pretty bad for as much as they are spending on it and the time between seasons. If this was some 25+ long episode season and they were being done back to back that would be one thing but we're talking about a company too fucking lazy to draw basic muscle shapes or scales or anything detailed. Sperg above's shit he spams in every one of these threads does have a solid example with both war woman and eve though: >>219385794 >>219385847
Notice how they don't even bother trying to give any detail even on a close up profile?
Hell one of the most detailed shots in the show's entire history is in the 2nd conquest fight and it is still barely finished.

>>219385794
>>219385847
>>219386134
American production, pls understand

>>219386173
It also makes the "finale" funnier if it goes the same way with the breeding stuff kek

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>>219386242
Anons are right tho >>219386134

>>219386134
You ain't allowed to like tits anymore

>>219379849
I think the industry is leading there, because a lot of recent animated shows have been jarringly bad and the costs just keep increasing
I heard the quality is likely an attempt at reducing costs by doing crunch time but that only makes the end result even worse
AI is the future whether you like it or not

>>219386926
Well AI would have to actually exist for that to be true. So far all they have is the artificial part. They sure do have the wasting of resources down though.

>>219386296
Cute bat

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We didn't know how good we had it

>>219387224
its like all the passion has been lost

>>219385794
>We have to recognize that a couple of dumb white guys made this comic book in the early 2000s.
Self-hating white men are the worst.

Please find some backbone.

>>219387738
Anime Directors have said that studios won't let them do gore or lots of blood anymore. The Japanese studios want their anime to have "global appeal" and are afraid that gore would offend some people and would be too violent. The Japanese have a reason (a stupid reason), but Invincible was changed just because of diversity nonsense.

>>219388060
meanwhile chinks and amazon both will do shit like the sausage link scene from the most recent ep while saying that nonsense about violence.

>>219388060
Its not just the gore, the actual animation quality is so much poorer even though the actual method is much cheaper to produce. no more worrying about cell animation its all digital but its legitimately animated worse. its a damn shame.

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>>219376641
With their budget, yeah. But S3 of One Punch Man was like watching a Power Point slide

>>219387224
rewatching DBZ if you just put it on 1.2x speed it fixes all the pacing issues

This is what happens when you waste most of your budget on voice actors. Which should be the cheapest part.

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>>219388060
It's more than just the lack of blood

>>219376641
it's a little better this season

>>219390790
one thing that never changes is vegeta jobbing

>>219390937
against anyone other than Goku for some reason

>>219376641
western animation need to take a page from anime production and accept the fact that animators and artists have to work for pennies on the dollar or never work again or better yet get replaced by AI

this is the only way

>>219376641
Most of the "we're just doing this job to keep the studio lights on" anime slop every season are objectively worse.

>>219391027
i wish he got more wins his most interesting was when he was a threat like in the namek/frieza saga

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I cannot stand the gay overused memes it has spawned and how redditors think this trash stands in the arena of power levels (HURR DURR WOULD INVINCIBLE MUSTACHE DAD STAND AGAINST GOKU OR ONE PUNCH MAN???) and it seems these memes and threads never ever ever end

>>219382699
>he hasn't seen the sliding grass scene

>>219391518
The worst part is that this show is already heavily outsourced, so that's not even really an option.
The difference really is always going to be passion, both in the directors and producers, as well as the grunts doing the work.
The directors and producers have no passion because modern directors and producers never have passion when they're adapting someone else's work.
The people animating Invincible don't have any passion because they're just grunts in South Korea, China, and North Korea who know that no one watching the show gives a single iota of a fuck about the actual animation and are mostly there to listen to JK Simmons talk shit to people.

>>219378842
with him gone there are no white men superheroes that will be relevant in any capacity
unless you count insect fucker oliver

>>219380612
Nah, this show looks pretty fucking bad in terms of animation quality.
It kinda reminds me of like a shitty seasonal isekai anime, where there'll be maybe 1 or 2 decently-animated action scenes in the entire season but then the rest of the show just looks like cardboard cutouts and someone sliding pngs around on-screen.

>>219385847
brutal mogging

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>>219385909

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>>219391727
Who the fuck is retarded enough to think anyone in Invincible could stand up against Goku?

It took 3 extremely strong viltrumites (including both Invincible and Nolan) as well as a super powerful weapon to destroy a single planet, and they were explicitly at a huge risk of dying in the attempt - meanwhile King Vegeta instantly vaporizes 3 planets with a flick of his wrist and he was weaker than Prince Vegeta when he first arrived on Earth. Not to mention in the very first tournament in the show, Roshi vaporized the fucking moon and still had enough power to keep fighting and win

Even Raditz or Saiyan Saga Goku would beat Thragg, let alone anyone else in the show. If we go with Goku's arrival on Namek it's a complete no-diff and he doesn't even have Super Saiyan at that point - let alone any version of Goku after that

>>219387224
it isn't just the blood, it's the lack of closeups and intensity

kinda funny that it's going to take AI/AGI to make westerners as good at TV animation as east asians

>>219393026
kid goku from the original dragon ball is stronger than any character in invincible

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>>219385794
>>219385847
>>219386134
Gore good, boob bad

>>219378525
i don't vividly remember the conquest fight but i did not walk away with the impression it was as good as opm s2. probably being invincible's art style is irredeemable shit.

>>219393026
>king vegeta
not canon

>>219385794
>We have to recognize that a couple of dumb white guys made everything good. that's bad.

>>219393464
Roshi vaporizing the moon is more than enough canon to comfortably put Raditz above Thragg

>>219394061
This doesn't take into account author retardation, which makes feats not count.

>>219388060
It isn't even about the gore. Are you just naturally maliously retarded and come up with non-issues to avoid the clearly obvious one? How the fuck do you look at that webm and come up with the gore being the biggest issue?

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Blocks your path

>>219382523
Nolan standing perfectly still except for his mouth while monologing? Ya, that looked ridiculous

>>219378453
Trvke. Japanese animation is more voice acting over a manga still than actual animation.

>>219376641
I just don't understand how OPM S3 got so much hate while actually looking better than this, but Invincible is praised as the greatest thing ever, I just don't get it.

>>219396501
Because OPM S1 was art.

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>>219396501
Lower standards.
Invincible is watched by people who are only watching for JK Simmons and the gore.
OPM was watched by people who did actually care about the animation quality, and the first season was done by Madhouse, so going from that to the subpar S2 and then to the literal slideshow that was S3 pissed off a lot of the fans.
Even if OPM S3 still has pockets of animation that are better than anything in Invincible outside of maybe S1, it's still vastly inferior to the first season, and most of it still looks like shit and can hardly even be called animation.

>>219396784
oh yes the people who watch *checks notes* one punch man are definitely quality viewers who concern themselves only with the utmost cinema you fucking faggot redditor holy shit go back kek
how do you even post some shit like that without laughing at yourself?

>>219390790
>It's more than just the lack of blood
That's what happens when your franchise goes on a break for almost 20 YEARS. People retire and others forget how to draw the characters.

>>219396849
When it comes to the animation? Yes, absolutely.
It's mostly that people compare the show's current animation to the standard set by S1, and anyone with eyes can tell that the newer season is barely even animated in comparison.

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>>219396873
Very true

>>219396903
no.

season 2 was kinda mid in quality but they've been putting an effort with the newer releases

does it even have something to do with the north korean server leak that had storyboard images of the show?

>>219376641
Expand your horizons

>>219397997
Why would they reanimate the same thing and do it worse?

>>219396784
i didn't watch season 3
did they at least adapt the non-rewrite chapters that didn't have Murata's next-level retardation added to them
I see the webm you posted is at least pre-rewrite but is the whole season that way

>>219398240
Because it's a similar plot

>>219398240
No idea. They used old clips from DBZ before so no idea why they didn't do the same for the History of Trunks special. Maybe because it was a special there's some different issue with the rights?

>>219376641
>animation
>posts a .png

>>219400366
Yep that is a lot of the show now.

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>>219396849
>you fucking faggot redditor holy shit go back kek
>*checks notes*

>>219400379
stay mad, bugman

>>219376641
never watched this meme cartoon, is it worth it for the plot alone?

>>219376641
Westaboos never recovered kek

When did Dale Gribble grow hair and become a superhero?

>>219376641
Do you think these huge corporations are aware that the billions they spend on this slop is being embezzled into the void? Give a nip a pencil, some paper and a pallet of instant ramen and he will somehow create gold.

>>219376641
>I'm genuinely curious to know if there is anything that beats it in pure abysmal quality
‘Gokushufudō’ aka ‘Way of the Househusband’ has absolutely shit-tier animation but it’s still a fun watch.

>>219376641
dragon ball super has insultingly poor moments. possibly the worst shit I have ever seen

>>219397997
Comparing a movie that was given a pretty generous budget during DBZ's peak of popularity vs a TV show episode that was under the schedule of weekly releases is very gay of you to think is at all a fair comparison, Pablo.

>>219401437
That has nothing to do with camera angles and composition. Try again.

>>219378669
No, but really, look at this cocky middle-aged generic Asian woman coming to destroy his fragile ego with harsh words. I love this video so much.

Not as bad as that tranny circus cartoon.