>>219378367
Qrd nigger I don’t read

Somehow /tv/ will seethe that jews are attacking the right-wing despite the story literally inventing the buffoonery of tradlarps.

>>219378367
>try to read this
>stop because I see myself too much in the protagonist
is it over for me? should I kill myself?

Who are the fat funny Hollywood guys currently active that could play Ignatius?

>>219378698
Jack Black

>>219378666
>>stop because I see myself too much in the protagonist

Please tell me you came to this realization before the dog scene.

>>219378367
Why is there a chocobo on Mario's head?

>>219378367
I read this and didn't like it.
Notes From Undeground is 1000x times better "Literally me" book

>>219378738
I guess so considering I don't even know what the dog scene is

>>219378367
Maybe the movie rights are not available.

>>219378367
Why do so many classic authors an hero?

>>219378698
Paul Walter Hauser

>>219378367
Who cares at this point? There'd be a million ways to fuck this up in the 90s. Today? Fuggedaboutit. It'd be so toothless, unfunny, and plain stupid. I hope they DO adapt it, just to see how badly they fuck it up. Will they fuck it up 1000%, or maybe just 450%?

Should hire DEI directors and writers, make at least 50% of the white characters black/latino, insert random LGBT characters, a downie syndrome haver, some MAGAtards, what else? Would be parody kino.

>>219378698
Druski

>>219378698
Phavlai Patel

>>219378698
RIP Phillip Seymour Hoffman

>>219378367
Every time they try somebody dies. Soderbergh says the property has "bad mojo."

>Hollywood legend has it that the film adaptation of A Confederacy of Dunces is cursed. John Belushi, John Candy, and Chris Farley have been chosen to play Reilly, but they all died before they could execute the role. Another film version derailed after the head of the Louisiana State Film Commission was murdered

>>219381689
They each would've been mediocre at best Ignatiuses, probably. It's fucked. They'd need a relatively unknown for starters.

>>219378367
Don't know the book but the title sounds like Idiocracy.

>>219378590
This book literally makes Ignatius the best character. You should be talking like Ignatius afterward because he is so based. Toole was also very christian

>>219381778
It's about an arrogant loser.

>>219378367
they don't want to offend the south

>>219382845
/tv/ biopic?

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>>219378698
It was the role he was born to play

>>219383248
Literally no other correct answer

Isn't this the book where a jewish manic pixie dreamgirl "saves" him at the end

>>219378590
It is incredible how much it predicted chuds. Ignatius even spends his days watching childrens tv while screaming about degeneracy.

>>219383507
No, incel, it isn't.

>>219383507
that’s the ripoff, scott pilgrim

>>219378367
i read half the book i think, and there never was a chocobo in it

>>219378367
The setting and culture and stereotypes that make it funny are all so dated that it would have to be "adapted" beyond recognition to appeal to modern audiences. Even the title itself would be baffling to literally everyone except educated white men, the only people who would understand that "confederacy" is a word with a meaning outside being a moniker applied to the South during the Civil War.

Zoomers would see the title and assume it's period drama about the South being idiots. Even that may be too generous; they likely aren't familiar with "dunce" either. A lot of the plotlines wouldn't work without heavy tweaking either. The entire Night of Joy/Jones plotline doesn't work if pornography isn't illegal, which involves Mancuso was well, whose own plotline is full of what would no doubt be seen as "problematic" depictions of gays and lesbians.

Ignatius himself wouldn't be anywhere near as entertaining for people without the literary background to understand his references, which is probably less that 0.01% of the population at this point. Actually, I take that back. People who have read Boethius and other scholastic philosophers? Too small to even offer a guess. Ignatius' unfiltered dialogue would be baffling to literally everyone watching the film. What would the average 25 year old make of Ignatius ranting about Fortuna's wheel and the modern world's lack of "theology and geometry"?

For it to be intelligible to any of the target audiences, Ignatius' references and obsessions and dialogue would need to be heavily rewritten which is guaranteed to ruin their charm. This >>219381689 is a good thing. God is intervening to prevent the tragedy that any attempted adaptation would inevitably become.

>>219384155
>doesn't work if pornography isn't illegal
You haven't seen what the Deep South has been up to these last few years haven't you

>>219378590
>>219383513
I'm something of a chud myself and I usually support right wing viewpoints on 4chan but I'm forced to concede that Ignatius really feels like a 4channer way before this site was invented
there's even a passage where he reads a letter sent to him by that left wing girl he has a love-hate relationship with and she wites to him that she met and befriended an african independance activist whom she describes as having "an intense personnality" and whe he reads this he immediately screams in horror : "Oh no !!! She has been raped by a Mau-Mau"
when I read that passage I coudln't stop laughing because this reaction felt so much like something straight out of /pol/ or of this board

>>219384155
I've watched "The Banshees of the Inisherin" without having a clue on what the title means in relation to the story (I still don't).

>>219378698
>>219378733
>>219381432
>>219381501
>>219381586
you're all wrong, only Nick Offerman is fit to play him

>>219380823
Ignatius masturbates to the memory of his dead dog after entire chapters of railing against the degeneracy of society

>>219381386
unironically setting it up today rather than the 60s and forcing plenty of uneccesary diversity in it would be kino because that's exactly what Ignatius would complain about

>>219383507
sort of
>>219378590
it lampoons a lot of different types of people

>>219384975
And he's still right
>>219384837
Part of why it's a great book is the prescience

unadaptable

>>219384155
as if you've read Boethius faggot you don't have to read Boethius to like the book

a movie adaptation would suck though

>>219383493
It would have been Phil Hoffman but in this day and age, yeah it could be Stav.
I just think the book is too good too be true all the way around. It's probably why every single attempted movie adaptation of it was cursed.

>>219385185
some of the progs in this thread claiming that this book is an own and a prediction of the chuds seems to forget that Myrna herself is a scathing caricature of leftists/social justice warriors whom Toole could already foresee in his lifetime how they would turn out

>>219385344
Ya and they're both perfectly accurate if extreme caricatures. Myrna's you actually meet irl, or you used to. I don't meet people anymore so i wouldn't know

>>219385344
chuds and SJWs are two correlated and co-dependent parts of the same cultural/spiritual disease

>>219384837
>when I read that passage I coudln't stop laughing
for me that is true about almost every passage in this book

>>219378367
This would need to be a miniseries with all the events that the novel alludes to have happened before the first chapter begins more explicitly portrayed on the screen.

>>219378367
It's for the better. The chances for an actual good adaptation by current hollywood are exactly zero (0)

>>219384525
I honestly haven't but I'm sure it's still a far cry from a culture where an underground operation selling polariods of illicit softcore pornography seems reasonable. All of the novel's plots are complex and interrelated so if we try to modernize it by, say, making Lana an onlyfans model, then it's going to require changing things around for other characters, which will in turn necessitate more changes, and so on until it's a mess that doesn't resemble the original work.

>>219385285
It's not that people wouldn't understand the title but that they would misunderstand it. A title you don't understand is preferable to one you misunderstand, as the latter will lead you to ignore it if it's something that doesn't sound interesting to you. Modern audiences would see a film with "Confederacy" in the title, assume it's about the Civil War, and if that topic doesn't interest them, they won't pay enough attention to realize their mistake.

>>219385285
I'm sorry that being well read is so unbelievable to you. No, you don't have to have read all of the works Ignatius references to understand the book or his character, but you are missing out on a lot of the enjoyment you would get if you had read them. Confederacy is full of things you will only appreciate if you are very well read, which shouldn't be surprising considering that Toole was an English professor with a PhD in Renaissance literature. This is hardly uncommon as there are countless novels that can be read and understood on a surface level but are more rewarding if you understand their literary background.

Personally, I work as a professor teaching philosophy and I can tell you that any serious student of Neoplatonism will have read Boethius, but I will tell you also that such people are exceedingly rare even in the realm of academic philosophy.

Ooowee! *blows an atom bum sized cloud of cigar smoke towards the ceiling*

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>>219378367
Nirvanna the Band tried it, but then pivoted
it will be released as a TV episode

>>219386666
fucking heil satan man

>>219378367
>why is Hollywood refusing the adapt this?
Because John Candy and Chris Farley died at the same time

>>219378367
what do you mean the Mario movie is out right now

>>219378367
comedy novels with lots of character thought do not adapt well. same reason infinite jest will never be adapted and catch 22 sucked

>>219378493
It insists upon itself. I tried reading, I knew what it was trying to do. Too pretentious.

>>219388573
what's an example of something not pretentious that doesn't insist upon itself where you didn't know what it was trying to do?

>>219388573
>what it was trying to do.
What the fucking shit is that pray tell

>>219388634
marvel comics

>>219388634
>something not pretentious that doesn't insist upon itself where you didn't know what it was trying to do
Dumas and Christie come to mind

>>219387254
name 3 things you'd miss out on in confederacy without having read Boethius yourself prior. Name something you wouldn't be able to appreciate in the book without reading the authors Ignatius references (I only recall Boethius)

>>219388573
It's extremely nonpretentious lol

>>219383507
I remember him going to university or something, its been a while

>>219388962
>Dumas
You're probably a fucking poser who hasn't even read The Vicomte de Bragelonne.

>>219389679
>The Vicomte de Bragelonne.
This is like saying somebody that likes CS Lewis and has read his most significant works but hasn't read Till We Have Faces is a "poser". Everybody and their mother knows Dumas as the kind of French serials, nobody knows him well for his other work outside of hardcore bookfags.

>>219384837
I thought you people were all blacked fetishists

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>>219383248
based

>>219378367
oh, they shouldnt adapt a book this good

>>219378493
(You) the movie

Stav is tiny, it needs to be like the guy that played kemper in mindhunter

>>219378367
I thought Pikachu was crashing into Luigi in the thumbnail...

>>219384837
Yes. I read it a few years ago and had the exact same reaction.
>>219385427
Correct. I met several girls like her at grad school for History, lol.
>>219385588
Yeah, I think it's a fantastically funny read. Only Master and Margarita rivals it for me, though obviously that one is a little more unrealistic.

>>219378493
Catcher in the Rye but with a fat dude

>>219389001
>name 3 things you'd miss out on in confederacy without having read Boethius yourself prior.
Well, here are some selected bits from chapter 2:
>The luminous years of Abelard, Thomas a Becket, and Everyman dimmed into dross; Fortuna's wheel had turned on humanity
>He often bloated while lying in bed in the morning contemplating the unfortunate turn that events had taken since the Reformation.
>As a medievalist Ignatius believed in the rota Fortunae, or wheel of fortune, a central concept in De Consolatione Philosophiae, the philosophical work which had laid the foundation for medieval thought.
Now, of course you don't need to have read any of these philosophers to understand Ignatius' character but his character and rants against the modern world are far more enjoyable with full knowledge of the philosophy and worldview he's attempting to emulate. Most of Ignatius' musings fall into this category, particularly when he's writing in his journal. So much of the humor in his character comes from pitting his worldview against modernity. You can enjoy him on a surface level as a silly guy who hates modern culture and wants to live in medieval times but his character is much richer and more enjoyable if you fully understand his philosophy, as Toole certainly did.

Similarly, Myrna's character is less enjoyable without a familiarity with her philosophy as well, and certainly the interactions between the two of them would lose much of their charm if you didn't both of their philosophical backgrounds and the absurdity of the two coming together. You know, you could read The Brothers Karamazov with no knowledge of Eastern Orthodox Christianity and enjoy it but you wouldn't be getting the full experience.

>>219378367
They already made the big bang theory

>>219397085
>He often bloated while lying in bed in the morning contemplating the unfortunate turn that events had taken since the Reformation.
This is still a funny line without having read specific philosophers. The idea that Ignatius is an incredibly over educated medievalist who no one understands is something the reader can easily grasp without having read medieval philosophy. Toole spells it out.

>>219383248
oh my god

>>219397539
He already said that. The part you're ignoring is where he said it's even better if you know what he's talking about.
I thought you knew how to read or something.

>>219384155
Good post. It would be, at best, a very watered down depiction. If it were mostly precise and accurate, the audience that would really appreciate it would be much too small. Not a good book to adapt, but certainly I get the appeal for it to be done, both for filmmakers and viewers.

>>219397618
I asked for examples of real things you'd actually miss out on that are important to confederacy if you hadn't read the philosophers Ignatius mentions and you responded by listed the philosophers Ignatius mentions. For the purposes of characterizing Ignatius it's sufficient to understand that he has a lot of useless arcane knowledge he constantly refers to. Unless you can tell me anything interesting that I missed out on having not read those works, which I would actually appreciate.

>>219378493
Then you don't need to worry about it.

It's a book. If you don't read, then don't worry about it.

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>>219397879
i HATE faggots like you, the wheel of online discourse turns ever downward

>>219398095
I knew when I wrote the first post you would be totally unable to deliver lol
>so what's a single real thing you'd miss in the book from not having read Boethius prior?
>i HATE you

>>219398136
I am obviously not the same anon effort posting for your pleasure, neither am I this >>219397618 anon, you'd realise that with the simplest of ease were you any more than a lowly fool perverting the sacred halls of imageboards with your filth

>>219378493
A fat pseud goes around ruining everyones life and thinks he's some sort of revolutionary leader helping people.

>>219384155
People love and love to hate boomers on shows/movies that complain about degeneracy, while being a giant walking contradiction to what they preach. If anything a lot of his rants are more scathing today than they've ever been.

>>219398242
Literally 0 effort was posted.

>>219378698
Matty Matheson

>>219384837
>"Oh no !!! She has been raped by a Mau-Mau"
haha. I don't remember that.

>>219384920
Nick Offerman isn't particularly fat, but he is probably the one that could do the diction without just being funny fat man

>>219397539
You are grossly overestimating the education of the general public. Do you really think the average person would understand even that line you quoted? Even if they knew of the existence of the Protestant Reformation do you think they would understand its impact and why someone like Ignatius would single it out for scorn? You're either being intentionally obtuse or you have lived a very sheltered life and think that everyone else has been afforded the same educational opportunities as you.

>>219397879
>I asked for examples of real things you'd actually miss out on that are important to confederacy if you hadn't read the philosophers Ignatius mentions and you responded by listed the philosophers Ignatius mentions.
Let's take another look at the first line I quoted:
>>The luminous years of Abelard, Thomas a Becket, and Everyman dimmed into dross; Fortuna's wheel had turned on humanity
Who is Peter Abelard? Who is Thomas Becket? If you don't know then the most you can possibly glean from this line is, "Ignatius thinks that things were better in the past". Which past? Well, it's going to be a bit vague if you don't know who any of these people are or when they lived. Why would Ignatius think that Beckets time as Archbishop of Canterbury was luminous? Hard to say if you don't even know the name.

If you don't know that Peter Abelard coined the term "theology" then you won't recognize the direction of Ignatius' frequent demands for "theology and geometry". And certainly you won't appreciate his constant appeals to Fortuna if you aren't familiar with Boethius. Part of the humor of his character comes from his misapplication of the philosophies he espouses, but you won't know he's doing so if you don't know what those philosophies are aside from the couple sentence synopsis the book provides.

>>219385344
>predicting chuds and leftist caricature
Intelligent book. Long since I've read it, didn't consider the caricatures were predictive years ago.

>>219384155
You do realize that Ignatius Reilly is literally a proto-/pol/ack chud, right? Everyone is out of time -except maybe his mom-but people like Ignatius are far more common today than they were in the 60s/70s/80s.

>>219399061
>Do you really think the average person would understand even that line you quoted?
No. I don't think they would get the joke. Most people don't read anything.
>Who is Peter Abelard? Who is Thomas Becket? If you don't know then the most you can possibly glean from this line is, "Ignatius thinks that things were better in the past". Which past? Well, it's going to be a bit vague if you don't know who any of these people are or when they lived. Why would Ignatius think that Beckets time as Archbishop of Canterbury was luminous? Hard to say if you don't even know the name.
That it's incomprehensible is what makes it funny. Contrasting Ignatius' existence as a slob who can barely function as a person, masturbates thinking about his dead dog, and eats 12 jelly donuts at a time by sucking out the contents with these names and philosophies is where the humour comes from which is what the book is trying to do: make you laugh.
>If you don't know that Peter Abelard coined the term "theology" then you won't recognize the direction of Ignatius' frequent demands for "theology and geometry".
I recognize that it's a joke. A joke based, again, on the contrast between his life and his philosophy. You don't need to know Peter Abelard coined the term theology to know what theology is either.
>you won't appreciate his constant appeals to fortuna
I took them as appeals to fortune, which makes sense to anyone regardless of schooling. What specifically am I missing?
>Part of the humor of his character comes from his misapplication of the philosophies he espouses, but you won't know he's doing so if you don't know what those philosophies are aside from the couple sentence synopsis the book provides.
Okay this is what I've been waiting for. You're finally going to provide an example of something that someone would miss if they didn't have prior education in the philosophy Ignatius constantly refers to. The floor is yours... I am eagerly awaiting one simple example... still

>>219399975
Nta but you're causing me to slowly push my palm through my face

>why don’t Jews make a movie about their intellectual antithesis
Hmm I wonder
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/q4H5S6SHLUI

>>219400022
Audiences didn’t understand those references in the 1980s when the book came out but they still found it funny. Same would be true today. Actually with footnotes + Wikipedia, it’s easier than ever to figure out a few historical figures and what the Middle Ages was likes

>>219400067
>They didn't get the jokes back then which meant getting them is pointless
>I don't get them and I think the book's hilarious
Oh boy anon
>It's funny, you can tell because the people in the audience are applauding

>>219383248
Cast mullen as the racist caricature of a black barsweep

>>219400022
You've got nothing to say

Imagine a book about a guy who's obsessed with Elvis who goes around saying "thank you very much" all the time
>we get it, he's very polite, that why it's funny he thanks people so much, like, we get it dude, you don't need to say thank you so much, lol

>>219400135
You didn’t address my main point. In 1982 when the book came out, it won a Pulitzer Prize. Yet they people reading it had no idea who “Botheius” was. They just thought Ignatius was some weirdo nerd chud.

>>219400135
So I'm sure you've got one example of even one joke that someone would not get without actually being intimately familiar with the philosophies Ignatius studies.

>>219400192
But the book isn’t like that at all.

>>219378367
Hollywood hates the Trump presidency and doesn't want to make a movie about him and his cabinet.

>people didn't get the jokes and it still won the Pulitzer prize, that means getting the jokes is pointless

>>219400267
They did get the jokes. None of the jokes are difficult to get.

>>219400267
They got it. That’s why it won the prize, that’s why it’s considered to be a funny and popular book. The jokes were understood.

>>219399975
>That it's incomprehensible is what makes it funny.
You may be able to find humor in this way but remember that this is a novel written by an English professor with a PhD in Renaissance literature and that the character of Ignatius was largely based on a professor with whom Toole was friends. So while these references may be incomprehensible to you, they certainly weren't to the author, and I doubt he wrote it with the intent that the reader would be wholly ignorant of any of the philosophers cited.

>You don't need to know Peter Abelard coined the term theology to know what theology is either.
No, but you also won't know the specific qualities Ignatius is invoking when he references these things.

>You're finally going to provide an example
I've provided many of them but I think we both know that this has already devolved into one of those 4chan "debates" where you're going to be as disingenuous as humanly possible in order to "win" this seemingly vitally important internet debate with a random stranger. It doesn't matter to me so go right ahead; you win. Congratulations!

Now that we've got that out of the way, you've flat out admitted that you don't understand any of the references I've brought up, going so far as to say that they're "incomprehensible" to you. Those things are what you're missing. You are missing a huge amount of context and nuance to this character, things that were absolutely intended by the author, who most certainly did not painstakingly craft this very specific character with the assumption that his readers would handwave it with
>well, i don't understand what he's talking about, but that's what makes it funny!

I have never said that you can't understand the book if you don't understand these things. I have only ever said that you are missing a lot of subtext without them, and I think your replies have long since proven that point for me. Enjoy your night and enjoy winning. You earned it!

>>219400640
>a lot of words to say absolutely nothing, again
And you're a samefag. Very shameful display.
>I've provided many of them
You genuinely, really, definitely have not.

>>219400965
Anon, you got your ass absolutely smashed in by the guy who knows what he's talking about and made yourself look plainly stupid.

>>219401155
>smashed by someone who knows what they're talking about
I wasn't even really trying to debate. I was actually interested in learning something more about the book, but he actually did not say one single thing.

>>219397085
>his character and rants against the modern world are far more enjoyable with full knowledge of the philosophy and worldview he's attempting to emulate. Most of Ignatius' musings fall into this category, particularly when he's writing in his journal.
What are some specific examples of this philosophy though, that Ig is trying to emulate?

>>219398855
Offerman's not funny though. Unless he's getting anally railed I suppose.

Mossad writing a novel in this thread

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>>219384920
>>219398855
>>219402585
well, he LITERALLY does it

and its not bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfA-OMt4GwM

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did you know there is a sequel to confederacy of dunces?

>>219402704
meant to quote >>219402572

>>219400258
Now THIS is epic!

>>219400640
>I've provided many of them
You literally haven't provided one. What's something *specifically* Boethian that if one knew it, would enhance a reference/joke in the book.

>>219403313
Dude left after declaring victory and samefagging about how he "owned" me. It was quite frustrating, but thanks for noticing what I also noticed.

>>219403516
I'm not the dude you were arguing with, I'm the dude you got embarrassed by him in front of

>>219403516
>samefagging
I thought he was too. Must be embarrassing to write as much as he did without saying anything or proving other anons wrong. Gotta save face or whatever.

>>219388251
Zach Galifinakis would be perfect, even if he has seemed to have retired

>>219397618
>The part you're ignoring is where he said it's even better if you know what he's talking about.

Only a literary snob up his own asshole would spend this much time whining about something like that when you’re in a thread about a film adaptation that by its very nature has to cut out, dumb down, condense and simplify shit in order to make an adaptation possible in live action format.

>But you would enjoy it more!
Who fucking cares. It’s irrelevant to 99.99% people who would ever watch the hypothetical movie.

>>219403827
Zach has slimmed down and is doing an agricultural show for Netflix this year

It always makes me queasy when an anon plays defensive by defending ignorance, it's like very low level evil

It isn't exactly timeless and its relevance has largely faded, not to mention its legendary status as a doomed project. Too many minorities with flawed character traits for the modern audience.

>>219378698
digitally fattened elliot page

>>219404282
>indirect reply seething

>>219404182
what is an agricultural show????

>>219388573
The pretentiousness of the main character is the joke dumbass.

>>219402497
>>219403313
Ignatius is constantly appealing to Fortuna, a Roman goddess of luck who Boethius reimagined as the personification of the will of God. One of the general themes is a Stoic one, that a man should not concern himself with external things due to the fickle nature of fate and that true happiness and virtue come from within. It's meant to encourage self-reflection.

Rather than trying to honestly live by these virtues, Ignatius instead uses them as an excuse to avoid self-reflection. If some plan goes poorly it's due to Fortuna delivering him bad luck rather than him having done something wrong. Much of his trouble in the book is the result of him refusing to take any personal responsibility or learn from his actions.

Now I feel I have to say again, since people keep replying to me and ignoring this point, that you don't need to understand any reference or philosophy to enjoy the book. Understanding them simply enhances it. It elevates Ignatius' character from a guy who likes medieval times or something to a hypocrite who doesn't even live by the philosophers he claims to love. He's a person who's read all these philosophers yet learned nothing and references them to reinforce his ego rather than out of a true understanding.

And I'm sure I'll get some pedestrian replies informing me that one could infer all that from the text even if every reference remained "incomprehensible".

>>219403516
>Dude left after declaring victory and samefagging about how he "owned" me.
Quite the opposite, in fact:
>>219400640
>You win. Congratulations!

If you can't tell my posts apart from others based on my grammar alone then you're not equipped to participate in this discussion. I'm here because I enjoy this book and discussing its characters and themes, not because I'm getting "frustrated" over some posts on /tv/. I've had no qualms about giving you far more honest replies than you've given me so I don't know why you'd think I would need to "samefag".

>>219404645
>He's a person who's read all these philosophers yet learned nothing and references them to reinforce his ego rather than out of a true understanding.

but its pretty much an auto-biography so the writer does actually understand his influences

>>219404645
>It elevates Ignatius' character from a guy who likes medieval times or something to a hypocrite who doesn't even live by the philosophers he claims to love.
This is intensely obvious to any layperson from the book because of things like his obesity and sexual depravity, themselves offences against theology and geometry. What you just wrote out is all totally plain to anyone who reads the book. When he's going to the movie theatre to watch the "degeneracy" this is obvious. When he's masturbating with his props and to the mental image of his deceased dog it's obvious.
>references them to reinforce his ego
This I would disagree with. He genuinely believes in his worldview whether he lives it or not. His character is not intellectually insecure, not at all.

>>219383248
woah

>>219404645
Maybe you should play Ignatius.

>>219404709
>but its pretty much an auto-biography
It's a shame that people think this.
>It was at USL that Toole met Bob Byrne, an eccentric English professor who is considered one of the primary inspirations for the character of Ignatius J. Reilly. Byrne specialized in the medieval period, and he and Toole frequently discussed the philosopher Boethius and the wheel of Fortuna, as described in Boethius's Consolation of Philosophy. Like Ignatius, Byrne was a self-admitted devoted slob who played the lute, and also wore a deerstalker hunting cap, which Toole frequently chided him about.

>>219404839
You know what, you're right. You should never attempt to learn anything new and even if you did, there's no way it could benefit you or broaden your understanding of other things. You're perfect as you are right now, baby.

>>219405183
More of this faggotry, lol. You spent thousands and thousands of characters to (finally) describe an obvious part of what makes the character of Ignatius funny to pretty much everyone who reads the book. And you still didn't reference even a single joke or moment from the actual book, like I've been asking you to.

>>219405183
he literally killed himself it was so accurate

>>219405266
He really did. I hope you're feeling really, really stupid right now, because you absolutely should.

>>219405605
"he" didn't

>>219384155
You are pretentious and clownsoes. While clearly learned, you think too little of others. There is google and smartphones now so anyone watching can just look it up later. If Dennis Miller can have a career saying obscure factoids in the 90s, we can handle it. Alice in Wonderland was adapted and so was wizard of Oz, chill, bitch!

>>219383815
Based final fantasy gamer. Never beat ff9 or 7 without a friend's help. Fuck chocolate breeding! The treasures and the chocolate gardens were bullshit to find.

>>219387254
That is what rereads are for. The wonder and magic of books and media.

>>219391242
Perfect!

>>219405183
Every biography makes it clear that the novel was pretty much autobiographical. The only thing about Ignatius that Toole explicitly borrowed from others was Byrne's physical attributes and some of his eccentricities (e.g., his refusal to learn how to drive). Everything else about Ignatius derives from Toole's own life, including his jobs, his academic interests, his relationship with his mother, and his personality. Toole himself wrote in a letter to Gottlieb that while writing and editing the novel he found himself walking around and thinking like Ignatius.

If the movie was to succeed imo it should be true to the novel in the sense of placing Ignatius's beliefs at its centre, in a way that is almost hostile to the audience in its unwillingness to water down said beliefs or appease the audience for cheek laughs. It should also be politically incorrect by depicting Burma Jones in a very black-coded way, and Dorian in an overly camp way, basically inviting sensitive audience members to complain about how the depictions are too stereotypical. It is only through doing that that the audience will be able to appreciate the underlying tragedy, namely in the relationship between Ignatius and his mother and Ignatius's downward spiral.

>>219400035
Cool it with the antisemitism, unironically. I say that as someone that knows israel is committing a genocide and using Jared kushner as a sleeper agent puppet for the Iran war. W edit on the video. Oh, fortuna.

>>219384975
ehhh the line between shocking and annoying has lost its existence

>>219395871
Yep

>>219378367
Because they don't give credit, and keep telling Hollywood to come back when they're a little... Richer.

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>>219405266
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>>219403516
NTA (as if you'd believe it lmao) but it's hilarious how your main "counterarguments" have been "nuh-uh you didn't" and "u r a fag". This even in spite of the fact that many other anons have called you out on your lack of reading comprehension and general stupidity.

If they ever make a movie adaption, I want (You) as Ignatius.

It takes place in the 60s you stupid niggers. Theres been like 4 full cycles of leftist agitation and conservative reaction since then. Are you actual children?

>>219384975
The dog enters his thoughts while he's jacking off, I don't think he was necessarily jacking off to Rex

>>219383248
Stav is smarter than he acts in his persona as a comedian so I think he could legitimately pull it off. Hard call as to whether or not he'd reject it due to Ignatius' more problematic behaviors and attitudes

>>219383541
No, he's more or less right, Myrna is a little more grounded than that, but she's still a 60s era parody of a liberal student who stages absurd protests and performance pieces and she's portrayed as Ignatius's equal when it comes to harassing professors who are phoning in their lectures

>>219410873
You nailed it, chief. There are clearly no modern films and shows set in the 60s, truly an alien era aye.

>>219378367
that's literally cartman from southpark

>>219394232
You can use movie magic to make him look taller and more imposing than he is for the handful of times characters perceive Ignatius as large and striking

>>219398855
Offerman's portrayed Ignatius in a stage play version of the book, but he's too old for it now, Ignatius is only 30

>>219399569
And like the chuds of today, Ignatius is a LARPing hypocrite with no job who would have absolutely nothing to do all day if he wasn't watching TV and movies and bitching about them, while writing in his journal (his version of posting) about how it's all degenerate and nobody is smart but him, beating off and gorging himself on junk food and soda between journal entries/posts

>>219404377
They have to make them in developing countries to show people how to grow their own food. America is about to become a developing country

>>219411946
Cartman is a bitter retard who lashes out at the people around him because he isn't good at anything but manipulating people. Ignatius, for all his faults, is actually a bright, well educated guy who, deep down, means well and wants to do good

>>219412546
details, minor details
they're both fat NEETS who give their enabling mothers a hard time

>>219412315
Still one of my favorite gags in the book is when he doesn't go to the movie theater because they're playing a tasteful art film (implied to be the Seventh Seal) and he gets mad that they're playing something boring and cultured instead of "pornography" he can bitch about

>>219412619
Cartman goes to elementary school and there are episodes where he makes money on schemes, he is definitively not a NEET. He was also always a giant piece of shit, whereas Ignatius was a nice kid who gradually became isolated and weird due to his nervous disposition

>>219384920
does he bust crust in the book?

>>219411495
Important distinction.

>>219378493
tl;dr can one u uncs read this 67 67 skbidi

>>219395871
>>219409697
kek thanks anons
>>219410379
reading some schizobabble from a freakshow while smoking tobacco is gay

>>219398095
>'There could be hot dogs here', he thought.

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>>219378367
More like a confederacy of dubs

>>219414063
>smoking tobacco is gay
Agreed.

>>219378367
>refusing
they tried several times and each time the big fat man they wanted to play Ignatius died of fat related illness or drug overdose complicated by being fat

>>219402732
go back to torturing manlytears

>>219411777
That's not what I meant. I was phone posting and fucked up my reply. I meant to respond to the posts acting like Myrna was a prescient caricature of a type that didn't exist at the time.

>>219416976
No yeah the 60s in America definitely wasn't a period with remarkable social upheaval, protest movements, or civil unrest of any kind

he's so me, it's not even funny.
How did they do that?

>>219416815
MANLYTEARS GOT NO REASON, NO REASON TO LIVE
A LITTLE SHORT GUY, BOUNCING BABY
KNOWS HOW TO WORK THE SHAFT, SWALLOW THE GRAVY

>>219418416
Are you the retard from before that got served by Boethius #1 fanboy? Because your reading comprehension is just as shit.

>>219410379
>not a single point was actually made
>y...you lose
Learn to read then read a book. I guarantee you've never read this one.

>>219420566
Yet he said not one thing about Boethius

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>>219378698
Stavvy is too short to play Ignatius. Shane Gillis is the correct answer. He's tall, fat, can grow a mustache, can do accents, and was a history major in college. He was born to play Ignatius.

>>219420734
He could maybe work, but really book adaptations don't work too well and are generally pointless outside of like sci fi or fantasy series. Unironically just read the book

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>>219420642
>another variation of "nuh-uh you didn't" and "u r a fag"
It's hilarious that you seethed all day over this though. Are you autistic?

>>219420677
Yeah, should've talked about his porn stash. What a fraud!

>>219421013
>another variation of making literally no point whatsoever and saying nothing at all
aaactually if you don't read all of boethius you won't be able to tell that ignatius is comically hypocritical in the way he chooses to live his life in contrast to the philosophy he espouses
>YOU WONT GET THE JOKE
which joke?
>IVE SAID ENOUGH'1
>I AM VERY SMART

>>219421128
You can tell that from his behaviour

>>219421216
Ya that's what I've been saying

>fat despicable neet
>still gets a gf
How

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>>219421128
I'll take that as a "yes" to my question. Would explain why you're so upset right now, but like I said I'm not that anon and I certainly won't argue his points for him.
You had your chance to prove yourself against Boe's most faithful sub and you blew it bigly, seethe all you want but it won't change a thing.

>>219421338
You have no points to argue and you haven't read the book.

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>>219421388
>You have no points to argue
You got that right, because I wasn't the one making the argument in the first place.
In your previous post you even made the same mistake you did hours before due to your poor reading comprehension, a mistake that was already pointed out by that other anon before and that you somehow still don't understand.
But don't let that stop you from throwing a tantrum (again) for everyone to see, beats any shitposting that goes in the generals.

>>219378698
Danny DeVito

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>>219381153
He offed himself before it was published, in fact because it had been rejected by every publisher he queried.

Not everything has to be a movie

>>219384155
>people without the literary background to understand his references
I think that's kind of the point. He's something of a pseud, like you.

>>219384837
>whe he reads this he immediately screams in horror : "Oh no !!! She has been raped by a Mau-Mau"
I shall now read your book.

>>219383507
Are you actually retarded? Did you seriously imagine a hot girl? Its a totally insufferable pudgy drama girl who has also alienated everybody in her entire life. Both of their letters are them lying to each other about the "prospects" in their lives. They are both completly disfunctional.

>>219378367
>winner of the (((pulitzer prize)))
I'm not reading in general, let alone something endorsed by j*urnalists

>>219384155
Isn't the whole point of his character that he maintains a mental view of himself that is the polar oposite of reality? And isn't the humor of the book that he still ends up being just about as honest as everybody else participating in society? You dont need to actually know any of the "refetences". You can use context clues to figure out when he is talking out of his ass to justify his actions.

>>219378367
He was the first /tv/ poster

>>219388962
>Dumas and Christie come to mind
You had a opportunity to post something truly pulpy here but failed because you actually are pretentious. Just say the hardy boys or redwall or some other feel good ya. WHY YES I LOVE DUMAS WHEN I AM LOOKING FOR SOME LIGHT READING WITH MY BIG BRAIN.

>>219383513
>Ignatius even spends his days watching childrens tv while screaming about degeneracy.
Pretty based. i've been watching In the Night Garden and it's wholesome kino.

>>219422112
He isn't, Ignatius has a master's degree and was offered a job lecturing. His mother and neighbor both recollect that Ignatius did well throughout regular school and Sunday school. He's absolutely a smart guy, but he doesn't do anything because he's emotionally frail and frightened by change of any kind

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>>219378367
>the scene where the factory workers carry Ignatius on their shoulders and he has a boner

>>219424842
>Ignatius makes the "Crusade for Moorish Dignity" banner out of one of his crusty, cum hardened sheets
>two women hold it but they're grossed the fuck out by it

>>219420734
He can't act he's too self aware

>>219378367
Mario if he book

>>219384837
>left wing girl he has a love-hate relationship with and she wites to him that she met and befriended an african independance activist whom she describes as having "an intense personnality"
cut off all contact