The Lord of the Rings is a pernicious confirmation of the values of a morally bankrupt middle-class. Their cowardly, Home Counties habits are primare are primarily responsible for the problem England now faces. The Lord of the Rings is much more deep-rooted in its infantilism than a good many of the more obviously juvenile books it influenced. It is Winnie the Pooh posing as an epic. If the Shire is a suburban garden, Sauron and his henchmen are that old bourgeois bugaboo, The Mob — mindless football supporters throwing their beer-bottles over the fence — the worst aspects of modern urban society represented as the whole by a fearful, backward-yearning class for whom 'good taste' is synonymous with 'restraint' (pastel colours, murmured protest) and 'civilised' behaviour means 'conventional behaviour in all circumstances'. This is not to deny that we do not find courageous character in Lord of the Rings, or a willingness to fight Evil — but somehow those courageous characters take on the aspect of retired colonels at last driven to write a letter to The Times and we are not sure — because Tolkien cannot really bring himself to get close to his proles and their satanic leaders — if Sauron and Co. are quite as evil as we're told. After all, anyone who hates hobbits can't be all bad.
So you read Michael Moorcock's hit-piece on Tolkien, where he calls the Shire the "Surrey of the mind." There is some truth to that.
>>219424106So what, you tranny.
>>219424431>So whatIt is a bit strange that people gather around Tolkien's ringpiece in the belief that it's a universalist, everyman saga to boost the public morals. Strange because, as Moorcock points out, the tale is steeped in elitist prejudice. Chances are that most of us would be "orcs" in Tolkien's view.
>>219424106I used to like LOTR. Now that I'm older I can see it's morally bankrupt leftist propaganda, written by the ultimate Commiefornian: JRR Wokein.
>>219424106>>219424746>i-its elitist!even if this is the case, so what? Mobs of retards clamouring for destruction in the name of liberation has proven to be a real threat to society. From the pits of society with subjects like crust punk heroin addict antifa freaks to middle class "NO KINGS!" cornball theaterfags who think cosplaying in the street is revolutionary. These people all support a wave of gray sludge over anything remotely beautiful. Saying "t-that hurts my fragile feelings!" means nothing, especially when this same crowd has the hallmark of the true brute; someone who enjoys inflicting misery but views any slight to themselves as a cosmic injustice
>>219424937>Saying "t-that hurts my fragile feelings!" means nothingNo one said their feelings were hurt. I'm not OP, but I think the purpose of this thread is just to point out a current that runs through Tolkien's works but often goes overlooked by the fans.And if you're being honest, I doubt you are really in favour of monarchies and aristocracies, both of which are valorised in LOTR.
>>21942474690% of Moorcock's stories would have some incarnation of the Eternal Champion morosely and tragically cutting "most of us" down anyways in a confused state of bloodlust then pinning the entire thing on the cosmic forces of Big Government anyways
It's always funny when Marxists try to sound profound when the whole point of their worldview is that there is nothing profound about the world at all, everything is (supposedly) right there on the surface. They hate normal people, but try to steal their ideas and creations all the same.
>>219424106@grok isn't this copy and pasted from an article?
>>219426396That sounds like something straight off the pages of Ayn Rand.
>>219425139The OP claim is that the premise of the story is "elitist" but never argues a point for why this is bad. It just boils down to "it makes me feel insecure/bad" and this is because at the core of it, leftism is motivated by feelings of insecurity and hating anything that is at least perceived by them as strong
>>219424746> Chances are that most of us would be "orcs" in Tolkien's view.It’s amazing how in addition to being the ugliest people on earth, leftoids are also incredibly fucking dumb. You truly have nothing going for you. Tolkien was incredibly clear that the Everyman is represented by Hobbits, who he has a ton of affection for.
>>219424746>>219428624I once read an article by a marxist literary critic (another one, not Morecock) who claimed Tolkien received a letter from a fan who was a factory worker from Siemens and that due to Tolkien's hatred of industrialism, he snubbed the guy and called him an orc; the whole story feels fishy and this doesn't sound at all like Tolkien who didn't usually display any sort of classism/class contempt; the leftie who made that claim didn't provide a link to prove it or the number of the letter in the published collection of Tolkien's correspondance so I think he made it up but if anyone know more about this, then provide any info that you have
