Erasing the Expanded Universe was a huge mistake.
Looks like generic slop.
>Luuke, I am your faather
>>219424520All trash, if it's not written by James Luceno, RA Salvatore or Timothy Zhan it can be skipped
>>219424560>>Luuke, I am your faather-Bigger Darth Vader
>>219424579I love Zahn but his non Star Wars books are the more comfy reading kino.
>>219424593Darther Vader
>Page-turners they were not
>>219424520Correct.
>>219424669Kek
>>219424579Or Michael Stackpole, or Aaron Allston...The EU was kino.
Autistic piece of shit who only white garbage reads the same with Star Trek pure garbage at least i understand manga but this is the most autistic and neckbeard like thing you will find
The post-Yavin works aren't good. Pre-Yavin has interesting stuff.
>>219424857I mostly agree with you, but there are a couple of post-Yavin books I like, pic relatedNow if it's post-Endor I'm definitely not interested
99% of the eu is pure garbage, just as bad as the disney movies.
>>219424758People read books in the 90's zoomer. Even kids were able to sit down and pay attention without needing to see a new tiktok video ever five seconds.
>>219425063Doubt that's a zoomer. Zoomers like Star Wars. Even the athlete types I grew up with were really into it.
Its just as garbage as Disney stuff at least the EU isnt exposed in movies and shows otherwise they would condemn it just the same and Luke bravely is a character a self insert character for autistics
>>219425146Yes, the EU too.
I liked the ones where Han and Leias kid goes to a Jedi school but I was the Star Wars demographic when I read them, baby. If you aren’t a baby you shouldn’t care about any of this.
The old Darkhorse comics were goat
>>2194245202D Clone Wars > 3D Clone Wars
>>219425063>>219425188Only American trash the rest of the world prefer to watch Anime
>>219424520Disney Wars Episode JJ Abrams: "Somehow Palpatine returned.">Star Wars manchildren: No! What is this bullshit, you cannot do that!EU Wars Episode Tom Veitch: "Somehow Palpatine returned.">Star Wars manchildren: Woah! Ingenious!
>>219424520>Posts the worst books in the EUWell done.
>>219428427It's almost like, when you execute a concept well, it's good, and when you execute it not so well, it's bad
>>219428708I don't see The Crystal Star there though?
>>219424520Everything disney does is a huge mistake. fuck all of the gen xers that made this happen.
>>219424520>writes the best Star Wars novels in your direction
>>219428736>when you execute a concept wellIt's literally the exact same bullcrap. Palpatine has an array of clone bodies, and his force ghost (or whatever you want to call it) can jump into them. There is virtually no difference in how it is executed. All this "Cloning. Secrets only the Sith knew." idiocy ... yeah, Abrams copied that directly from those retarded comics that you claim to love so much.
Why? They can always bring anything they want back.
>>219429191I never personally cared for any of the comics, I like the EU but only the novels, and even then only the novels that are set before the original trilogy. Your argument is based on the weird assumption that if you like the EU that means you like every single EU release.
>>219424520Star Wars died when they did this. Rian dropping the Yoda line to start a war with all prior fans cemented it.
Best EU book of all time coming through
>>219429062not an argument. prove him wrong or fuck off
>>219424579Not true at all. There were plenty of other good ones. For example, Michael A. Stackpole and Drew Karpyshyn. Tons of good one-off authors too.
>>219424520Don't forget the video games. Republic Commando and Kyle Katarn are perfection.
>>219429536Drew Karpyshyn wrote exactly one good Star Wars book, Path of Destruction. The sequels were lazy and rushed. I tried reading his Revan novel and it was godawful.
>>219424758Your brain is cooked. You can't even form sentences. Reading books would be good for you. Put down the TikTok.
>>219429328>Your argument is based on the weird assumption that if you like the EU that means you like every single EU release.Well, that's how EU fans usually argue. Like it was this perfect complex of completely inherently-coherent stories that expanded on the films story in a meaningful way and that never went even slightly wrong.Whenever one argues that it wasn't any of that, and that large jusnks of it are complete trash, you get massive opposition.By the same logic, EU fanboys also assume that everyone who doesn't like their once-semi-canonized collection of overpriced fanfiction must therefore like what Disney Star Wars has produced, hell, even every single thing that Disney Star Wars has produced. Which I doubt anyone does.I'm just pointing out what I see as a massive inconsistency with this whole "the EU was better" argument.
>>219429306Are you really this stupid? The story is so morphed they can no longer tell those stories. All you get is shitty, lesser versions of the characters. Thrawn is the perfect example of this. Went from an amazing character to low-IQ slop.
>>219429695The EU was better because it produced some stuff that was actually good, even if most of it is shit. nu Wars has produced exactly 0 good Star Wars content
>>219429444are you responding to the right comment? you're borderline incoherent. you don't seem to understand OPs post, nor the post replying. you either lack sentience or are some sort of automated AI. either way, you're a waste of space
>>219428427Only a fucking Mouseketeer could spin copying an idea as a good thing while shitting on said idea in the same sentence.It’s absolutely fascinating how the average disney white knight doesn’t seem to grasp that having a blueprint of what not to do and then doing it anyway is far more retarded than taking a swing at a new idea and missing.
>>219429626So, we're still look at 30+ amazing books. Including a perfectly crafted sequel series that puts Disney slop to shame. Instead of ruining the universe world building with nonsensical plots they would be raking in billions.
>>219428427People shat all over Dark Empire when it came out, but the real mistake is to take Star Wars too seriously in the first place.
>>219429924It is pretty incredible just how badly Disney has handled Star Wars. I didn't expect them to create masterpieces or anything, but I expected a lot more than what we gotI was one of those retards who cheered when Lucas sold it to Disney, so I guess I'm getting what I deserve.
>>219429734>because it produced some stuff that was actually goodWell, I guess if you keep throwing mud at a wall a few hundred times, there's a good chance it sticks once or twice. For some people at least.>nu Wars has produced exactly 0 good Star Wars contentSure, you can see it that way. From what I hear, most people praise at least some of those things. Those who hate the films seem to particularly like the Andor series, for example. Those who hate episode 8 for its Luke portrayal specifically seem to love the Mandalorian. Episode 8 is liked by those who hated episode 7 for not taking risks. Episode 7 is liked by those who hated the prequel's aesthetics, I think, because it went back to the 70s ones. Of course, that also means that Disney don't really seem to follow any real common paradigm and the picture of all those things as a whole seems like a mess, i.e. you'll not find anyone who likes all of those things. But on the flipside, them all being such different things makes it more likely that you (or anybody) will find one or two things to like.
>>219430347I hear the Legacy of Vader comic is pretty good
>>219429972>the real mistake is to take Star Wars too seriously in the first placeAgreed. But isn't that what Star Wars fanboys have always done? At least back to when Episode 1 came out and some people threw a massive tantrum, claiming that George Lucas had retroactively destroyed their childhoods.I guess you could go as far back as 1980 with Empire, but the people who hated that one (some vocally at the time) seem to have had the decency to just stop after a while and quit being Star Wars fanboys altogether. They didn't have the internet to amplify and sustain their autistic rage though.
If any of you are considering reading this book, don't. It's not even about Vader. Jesus christ Disney can't even get authors that will actually write about the assigned subject.
>>219424520Literally all they had to do was say EU is Legends BUT we're going to start handpicking from it... starting with Zahn trilogy for the sequels. They would have won everyone over and introduced the new generations to pure kino.Instead, Star Wars is dead and Stargate is the new kino. The upcoming Stargate show is ticking all the right boxes and is going to surprise the hell out of sci-fi fans.
It stopped being canon after the TCW show with Ahsoka Tano TCW is George canon and EU is glorified fanfiction
they should have retired the luke leia han era after the vong, it had already gone on too longthen vong but ants happened a year laterthese poor bastards were 80 and their wives and friends and kids were all dead or evil or whatever and they kept having to start all over with an even worse galactic threat than the last onewhy do I want to keep reading about them getting shit on by life instead of ever getting a happy ending knowing it starts all over after a few more books
>>219430524I suppose you're right. I can't really relate though because I'm just not like that. I can enjoy some Star Wars in a similar way to how I can enjoy comic books or manga. I don't get all bent out of shape about Dragon Ball Super or Boruto either. Certainly the sequel trilogy was a big disappointment, but at the end of the day I have to view them as fundamentally juvenile stories, not to get invested in too much. I could imagine myself feeling differently if I had poured a lot of work into these series, for example Mark Hamill's reaction to how Rian Johnson wrote Luke, but as a fan? No.
>>219430637No real star wars fans really give a shit if something is from George or approved by him
>>219430571I was reading up on this on that ancient site I was surprised still existed (GateWorld). They have...* Christopher Nolan's oscar winning Production Designer on board* the VFX guy that did Andor* My 2 favorite script writers from SG-1 and Atlantis* Showrunners that ARE Stargate* No rebooting or retconsIf they don't fuck up the casting its going to be my new shit.
>>219429704>Thrawn is the perfect example of this. Went from an amazing character to low-IQ slopThawn was always cringe, and I read Heir to the Empire books.
>>219428427It wasn't "somehow," it was a clone; which was a directly play on references to the "Clone Wars" in the original movie, of which we as an audience knew nothing about, which gave us ample space to worldbuild in. And even then it was controversial. And it wasn't the only controversy, not even just in that series. Even Return of the Jedi had its criticisms, like the Ewoks, in particular.Personally, I always thought making Leia into Luke's sister was too convenient.
>>219430923His dialogue was bad at times but he had motives that made sense and actions that were impactful. Disney completely did away with the reasons his character was interesting and made him another ineffectual Empire baddie.
>>219430987>It wasn't "somehow," it was a clone;Hint: It was a clone in episode 9 too.
>>219431060This is basically how Star Wars can be saved. Just keep bringing Palpatine back over and over again, but plan for it.
>>219424520It's funny how aggressive Disney's smear campaign against the EU and the prequels was and how they desperately need to rely on both to make people interested in their slop now.
>>219432736>B-b-but the Force is Female!Fuck Disney. Even if it turns around I'm gay for Stargate now.
>>219424520As someone who only started getting into the EU in the last few years, I think it was a great decision. Disney inadvertently gave people who don't like what they do with Star Wars a nice contained continuity that people can dive into without having to worry about keeping up with new stuff. I'm sure for old fans it sucked, but I wonder how many of them really still feel Disney should have kept the EU after they completely botched the sequel trilogy and their new Disneyverse books.
>>219432929> a nice contained continuityBut the Disney stuff’s just as messy.
>>219428427The EU version was based around characters we actually cared about: Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie. Not some Mary Sue and her so-called friends whom she barely interacted with.
Should the line between the dark and the light be:>any intense emotions at all?>intense emotions leading to violent thoughts?or>willing surrender to violent thoughts?
>>219424520But also a blessing in disguise as the peak woke era didn't affect it and potential adaptations.
>>219424520nobody erased anything you stupid fucking baby. those books still exist. the original movies still exist. you can watch them anytime you want and ignore anything you dont like. grow up, faggot. star wars is shit for retarded children.
>>219425146>Zoomers like Star Wars.least delusional star wars fan
>>219437610Read how you write. He isn't the manchild. You are.
I've done some reading, and I think the Dread Masters from TOR are pretty close to what Obsidian had in mind for the baddies of KoTOR III
