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Tony really thought he knew more about medicine than a doctor?
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>>219426386
Very out of character, especially given Tony has such historical respect for doctors on this show
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>>219426386
A gangster’s doctor’s note, very trustworthy stuff there.
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none of those meatheads could appreciate Vito's sense of humor
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Doctors can do a test where they show you pictures of men and measure your boner. Technically Vito is right
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>>219426386
Tony would 100% ship him off to Miami or somewhere if Ayatolah didn't stick a pool cue up his ass
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>>219426386
Why was Tony so aggressive in this scene? Didn't he know Vito's brother was right over there, ready to tear him limb from limb?
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaDqj9ko1wM&t=546s

Love how Vito's actor is constantly mocked even in interviews for playing a fag almost 20 years ago
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tony just needed to trust the science and maybe /ourguy/ would have still been alive
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>>219426743
>trust the science bro
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>>219426859
lol
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>>219426386
He had the same condition in a deleted scene
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>>219426859
the most obvious damage control of all time
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>>219426559
what if I have ED?
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>>219426743
trusting in other people to do their fucking jobs is one of the major cornerstones of the modern world and unironically a wise thing to do.

you implicitly trust other people and their work a thousand times a day, there isnt an area in your life where you DONT put your trust, and your life in other peoples hands.
every time you enter a building you trust hundreds of people in planning, transportation, design, structure, engineering, carpenters, plumbers, electricians and even painters to do their jobs, even tho a fuckup from either of those hundreds of people involved could make the building fail and kill you. you don't even think about it because you understand that you don't have to understand every individual process and that this shit just works. because people will do a good job if they have the ways and means to do a good job.

but somehow medicine is this area where this basic logic doesnt apply and you go apeshit when the doctor tells you to do X or take Y because you think listening to some youtube schizo ramble for a weekend makes you just as knowledgeable than people who spent their entire lives studying medicine. just take the vaccine you fucking hack.
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>>219427511
>what if I have ED?
it's ok, they're pictures. you don't need to read anything.
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>>219427613
>every time you enter a building you trust hundreds of people in planning, transportation, design, structure, engineering, carpenters, plumbers, electricians and even painters to do their jobs, even tho a fuckup from either of those hundreds of people involved could make the building fail and kill you.
nigger how the fuck would a bad painter cause a building to fall down
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>>219427727
not structural failure, but wrong paint mixing and accidental poisonous fumes or mold because of contamination can kill a person.
it wont be as "spectacular" as an engineering failure but a criminally negligent painter can also kill you
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>>219427613
you don't "trust" that all those workers did a good job. you see a building that's already built and standing, and you reasonably conclude that if anything catastrophically bad was gonna happen, it would have already happened.
Most of the "doing" is already done.

When it comes to injecting a chemical substance in your body, the doing is happening in the present, not in the past.
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>>219427613
>every time you enter a building you trust hundreds of people in planning, transportation, design, structure, engineering, carpenters, plumbers, electricians and even painters to do their jobs, even tho a fuckup from either of those hundreds of people involved could make the building fail and kill you.
All these people are liable if their work kills me. Pharmaceuticals making covid vaccines were all given legal immunity for harmful side effects.
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>>219427613
Trusting "experts" as a default mode is obviously the way to go, but some people go to extremes where they refuse to question an expert even when they personally experience something that countradicts what the expert is saying.

The experts are usually right, but they're often wrong too. And you're allowed to use your own head to figure out when they are wrong and speak up, especially if your doctor gives you the wrong diagnosis, which happens all the fucking time
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>>219428016
you dont see internal structural failure in a building. and even if you did see something, you're not an engineer to judge the gravity of the situation, it might be nothing. and a building thats about to collapse doesnt lean over like in a cartoon.

just admit that you cant judge neither structural failure in a building nor what kind of medicine your body needs. You HAVE TO rely on other people's judgement in either case.
You dont know everything because you dont have to.

let other people do their fucking jobs, if the doctor says you need to take X then you fucking do it, you may get a second opinion from another doctor, but you don't question the effectiveness of vaccines altogether because some brown breadtuber made a 2h video essay about muh pfizer
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>vaccine derangement syndrome ruins another thread
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>>219428287
>let other people do their fucking jobs, if the doctor says you need to take X then you fucking do it, you may get a second opinion from another doctor, but you don't question the effectiveness of vaccines altogether because some brown breadtuber made a 2h video essay about muh pfizer
the logic is inconsistent. these are the people who spent our entire lives telling us they hate us and they can't wait for us to die, and then suddenly they say "let us inject this shit into you, person we hate, you totally wont die. its definitely healthy for you"
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>>219428423
doctors dont hate you, take your fucking meds
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>>219426859
>source: a shitter post by ladbible or some shit
lol
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>>219428423
>people who spent our entire lives telling us they hate us and they can't wait for us to die,
No one ever said that to you. You're just desperate to feel like a victim
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>>219428544
what the fuck are you talking about, they say shit like that every time their side loses an election.
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>>219426743
Faceberg tier but still applicable. I unironically hope all these people got those weird blood clots or ass cancer or both, preferably.
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>>219427613
>trusting in other people to do their fucking jobs is one of the major cornerstones of the modern world and unironically a wise thing to do.
Nobody ever had to bribe me to trust a mechanic or coerce me to trust a pilot you fucking unironic very literal nigger.
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>>219428475
Yes they do.
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>>219428784
Where, on leddit? Did you think those people are all doctors?
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>>219429092
>AAAHH I'm the victim, everyone is in cahoots to get me!
you sound like a jew
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>>219427511
What's ED?
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>>219426386
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SrHw1NthyiU
He's lucky he turned back when he came off the meds.
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>>219426859
sounds even worse
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>>219429311
>the people who consistently wish death on their political opponents, definitely DON'T wish death on them while they're at work too

why even bother gaslighting something so obvious?
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I don't know much about medicine or biology - although my master's thesis involved microbiology so I know a little more than some
But I know about incentives
In general, people act in the way that they are incentivised to do, and incentives can be both positive (behave and you'll get a carrot!) and negative (misbehave and you'll get the stick!)
And incentives can be human-directed, but can also be totally organic and incidental
So what were some of the incentives acting on medical research corporations, governments, medical personnel and ordinary people, in 2020 and 2021?
>medical research corporations were highly incentivised to cut corners, misrepresent or outright falsify research, and rush out an insufficiently verified product to market, by the absolutely monstrous potential profits to the first company to succeed
>governments were highly incentivised to grab the first available product on the market, and accept any promises of safety, to save their countries from further economic harm and return to normalcy
>doctors were highly incentivised to deploy the first product they could get, and minimise the risk profile, out of a genuine desire to treat and heal patients
>people were highly incentivised to take the vaccine - to protect themselves - and to accept and believe that it was totally safe and well-researched and all involved were honest and behaved entirely above-board, and had all of our best interests at heart - out of fear
It's reasonable to have skeptical doubts of the parties involved, when such clear and powerful adverse incentives were in effect.
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>>219429514
Clearly this is the rational way to think about it, but you can not underestimate the impact that two years of 24/7 propaganda had on the average person. They were instilled with the belief that any skepticism whatsoever was a threat to their personal safety
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>>219426859
>scientists figured it out
proves their point

>>219428952
>questioning science
yeah, with a scientific method, not just saying "i hope people die"
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>why are people hesitant to trust doctors after they shoved needless medications onto people for decades
Shut up and take another fistful of Oxycotin, the reps promised me they're not addictive. Now I'm off to a completely unrelated Hawaiian vacation.
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>>219429514
while your general conclusion is correct that people work according to their incentives, you fail to mention that there are are also always in competition with eachother.

comparing this with a building, the people involved have incentive to get the construction done as fast as possible and get paid, but there are also other groups involved with different incentives, like construction inspectors, building codes, laws and regulations.
all these groups are checking in on eachother with different goals in mind, so in the end the thing gets completed within a reasonable time for a reasonable profit, while still maintaining safety and construction codes.

in the case of vaccines, there were also plenty of organizations involved that kept an eye on the entire process, and even competing corporations that kept tabs on eachother so nobody "cheats" by selling a fraud product. Money talks, and these people werent in cahoots with eachother, they were stone cold competitors who wouldve called out some major issues with a competitor's product immediately.

the incentive was to get a vaccine, but internal quality control, the government and the FDA still had an incentive to do it as safely as possible. and they also were willing to throw a shitload of money on it to accelerate the entire process. they upscaled already existing processes (SARS-covid wasnt exactly a brand new illness)
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>>219431323
>accelerate the entire process
They weren't able to assess long term side-effects because that requires waiting a long time, which they didn't have. You can't just magically speed that up



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