>From $250 Million Megadeal to Empty Offices: The Unraveling of Bad RobotWhy did everyone finally turn on him?
who?
>>219431888He won, you lost, Star Wars is over, grow up and move on
>>219431888is this a go woke go broke scenario? what has the company even produced recently?
>>219431888I was just watching super 8. I guess thats probably his best film but it's pretty mediocre. The train crash at the start is so over the top that it takes me out of the vibe he was trying set up
>>219431888>Not only was Bad Robot a haven for original and genre-busting storytelling, but Abrams’ company landed in the middle of a heated bidding war when he set out to find a cushy studio deal in 2019, eventually landing at WarnerMedia for over $250 million across five years.>But the trajectory of the company after that deal was signed underscores how significantly Hollywood has changed over the last half-decade, and how the company failed to live up to the pressure of its megadeal. After few new shows or movies materialized from the partnership, Abrams and Bad Robot re-upped with Warner Bros. at the end of 2024 for a much less pricey first-look deal.>For years, the studios and streamers battled it out to offer nine-figure deals to proven filmmakers, betting they’d keep delivering hits, and overpaying to keep top talent in-house as the streaming wars raged. But amid the industrywide contraction, studios are no longer content to bankroll prestige shingles without proven returns. The contraction has led to fewer films and shows being made, and with the insatiable appetite for new content evaporated. Massive overall deals — once a way to lock down talent — are now seen as risky bets that rarely pay off.>A film producer who spoke to TheWrap offered a sharp take: “It just means the town is contracting and studios no longer get maneuvered by agents to give massive deals that don’t bear out.”>But a studio executive had a different view, suggesting Abrams had lost his touch: “It probably says more about Bad Robot than anything else. And the bottlenecks that can arise at talent-led production companies, and how hard development is.”>“It’s pretty straightforward; they didn’t produce successful stuff and had their deal cut significantly with each new contract until now,” a top talent agent said.
>Lens flare intensifies
someone once described jj abrahms as dime store Spielberg, like Spielberg but with nothing to say, he spent the last decade going from franchise to franchise and destroying it as an ip to the point the audience no longer cares. and when you think about it, has this guy ever been successful? everything he has made is complete shit, can you name anything bad robot made that wasnt shit or didnt disappoint people.another thing, commiefornia is becoming impossible to work in because of regulations and taxes
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>>219432557JJ's movies are like amusement park rides. You get a certain type of shallow entertainment value out of it but it has no staying power.
>>219432557>going from franchise to franchise and destroying it as an ipHow did he get away with it??
>>219431888needs more mystery box
>>219432135>is this a go woke go broke scenariois that the only possible explanation for an entertainment company failing from your perspective?
>>219432803yes, he is a competent film maker from a technical aspect, but he has nothing to say, there is no art.
>>219431888Enough jewish confort.
>>219431888Star Wars expiosed his catastrophically poor judgement and lack of talentIt takes a phenomenal degree of incompetence to sink a bulletproof cash cow like Star Wars, but somehow Abrams managed it
>>219433113I hope some vibrant urban youths play the knockout game with his head
>>219432815Hollywood its about your pitch. Projects come up and agents book talent to pitch their take to a studio. Lots of people pitched their take on Star Wars episode 7. JJ won.Star Trek.... literally is cause of Gail Berman and Les Moonves, who felt the team from Mission Impossible 3 should do a Kirk/Spock reboot. Which they got cause Tom Cruise liked Alias. Hollywod is fucking dumb.
>>219433113hnnng I'm noticinggggg
He has a new movie coming out this November but there has been no posters, trailer, or any promotional material for it yet.
>>219431888his face looks like a cunt
>>219439884Based
>>219440034thanks
JJ was Astroturf from day one.
>>219435724Buddy. It was transparent his crew had no talent midway through Lost. American Catholic stock are just too slow to catch on. Jews have you by the balls and you are too dimwitted and without agency to do anything to resist.
>>219432272The grifting can only last so long.
>>219432639>Lindelofand the upcoming HBO Green Lanterns. Excuse me. Lanterns. Because colors are silly and childish.
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this had some good kinos but then it went to shit
what is amazing to me is that there are LOST threads on this board to this day and they think it was a good show and it's maybe one of the most insane filters of taste in tv I'm aware of. It felt like days of our lives in a twilight zone episode and it really punished the audience. its like bad fast food, I'm hungry again already and it was a waste of time and money.
>>219431888I don't think anyone could make a comeback after this.
>>219431954Bad Reboot
>>219432815He has friends in high places and him aping Spielberg is by design to suck him off for backing
>>219432272What this ignores is the fact that WB has been run by Zaslav for years now and that meant cutting corners, cancel shit left and right and also WB suddenly started refusing to move forward with stuff they had already okayed even though the project was well into casting process already. It’s true Bad Robot hasn’t produced many hits but let’s keep in mind how few original projects are even able to become popular anymore, there was Covid that more or less shut shit down on many fronts for months and then there was an extensive writer’s strike.
>>219449162This is true, Star Trek 4 never happened cause of.... oh wait that's Paramount.
>>219432135>>219431888He went from one of the whitest rooms in Hollywood to one of the emptiest rooms. Fucking woof. Careful what you wish for.
>>219431888Hollywood realized he was a scammed with no originality or capability to make good endings
>>219432557Lost was a massive success and force awakens made billions of dollars even though it was trash. I genuinely like Fringe atleast
>>219439884Hey remember when he snuck his dick into Star Wars and no one questioned it.
>>219447244So bad. Its just him stealing from the fucking Goonies. Reminder they were ready to give him the keys to the kingdom a few years ago.
>>219450191>is there a third world person you forgot to ask
>>219450049everyone hates lost because of the ending, you never everrrr see lost nostalgia, you see it for house, sopranos, seinfield, shit like that, no one ever brings up lost
>>219451313Yeh but it was a massive hit at the time. Kurtzman and GayJ built their reputations on it.
>>219431888>Why did everyone finally turn on him?Now that's a story for another time...
>>219449664Star Trek 4 isn’t happening because they’re expensive films to make and the third one failed to break even
>>219431954The guy who made the Star Trek movies
>>219451313Bullshit. Lost is one of the most beloved series from the 00's golden age.
>>219453757Nope, it's unc slop. Take off the nostalgia goggles granddad.
>>219452505it was even enough and not WB
>>219432888you are pissy that such a simple explanation might be the case, but then you look at the star wars sequels, and realize it fits perfectly with what he said. He tanked the easiest franchise there is to make. It is famously bad, and famously woke.
>>219454608It lost like 50 million
>>219431888there was never bathos on screen like the mysical alluring gold lucasfilm logo being followed by that logo for the first time
>>219431888>jews jewing jewshappens every day
>>219431888>everyone finally realized the ideas guy wasn't worth what they were paying him
>>219432135He was always destroying brands on purpose. He lasted for nearly 30 years siphoning money out of big production studios to literally annihilate their IPs.
>>219432815My impression of his works is that despite the tepidness, the man's got the job done. Dude seems able to deliver these shows and movies without much conflict, so I guess that's a good trait to have in Hollywood, which is why he gets all the big IP offers. That and he's part of the tribe and Spielberg connection.
Gracie Abrams stomach is the greatest thing JJ has ever produced
>>219432557JJ Abrams is basically a less sexist Michael Bay (especially after SJWs on the internet complained about the sexy undressing scene in Star Trek Into Darkness and Abrams apologized and promised to never sexualize any female again). But at least Michael Bat admit he makes dumb entertainment trash for money.Abrams thinks he is creating intelligent art when all his movies are retarded slop.
>>219446465Reminder that JJ Abrams wanted to make a black Superman movie before Zaslav cancelled it.
>>219431957Shut the fuck up, tranny.
>>219431888No, you misunderstand, he can downsize now because he has AI to do a lot of heavy lifting and doesn't need as a corporate tower full of H-1Bs filling up office space.
>>219449162zaslav came in 3 years of that five-year dealthe only bad robot project wbd decided to not go for was demimondeabrams and bad robot were slacking
>>219432639image should include orci (dead) and kurtzman (crossing through star trek a second time)
Im gonna keep it a buck fifty with y'all, his Star Trek movies are the best Star Trek content
>>219457246Demimonde was a huge project and clearly was intended to be a main new JJ Abrams flagship show that the original five year deal was expecting, hence why so much time and resources were put into developing it. You can’t really complain they didn’t produce enough when it was WB that suddenly got cold feet under Zaslav and pulled the plug on it when Bad Robot has produce multiple tv shows for WB television division and there are two different movies coming out later this year. It’s fair to say Bad Robot failed to produce hits they were expected to deliver but even then you have to ask how much of that was actually Bad Robot’s fault and not WB just being a mess due to the constant changes in management. Because WB has a very bad record as of late when it comes to committing to something and going through with it. So when WB is constantly bungling its project, changing its mind on what it wants on the fly and even outright dumping stuff that was already shot for tax write ups, it’s hardly surprising you aren’t able to get more stuff off the ground when everything you’re offering needs WB’s okay.
>>219433113>polite conversation is exhausting to black people
>>219432557He’s a cargo cult director. He knows all the techniques but has no idea when to use them.
>>219431957>I made these movies dogshit ON PURPOSE chud!Yeah yeah, and Rian's trilogy is coming any day now right?
>>219457616>You can’t really complain they didn’t produce enoughi can>>219457616>tax write upsthis doesn't mean anythingnice essay but you don't know what you're talking about
>>219457920>this doesn't mean anythingYea it does. The studio looks like a headless chicken that has no clue what it is doing and when you commit to filming entire movies and only then in post-production phase you decide that actually we’re not going to release this at all and instead we’ll write it off. That is a major red flag on the way company operates, how it’s constantly second guessing itself and acts scared. So no shit a production company might have difficulty producing tons of projects when then people whose approval you need can’t make up their fucking minds what they want. I wouldn’t be surprised if part of the reason BR didn’t produce more is because every other week studio would give notes that are completely contradictory and require massive redoes on what had been already been agreed upon because suddenly someone got cold feet or Zaslav demanded budget cuts that would undermine and destroy the entire core premise because you couldn’t afford to do anymore the way it should be
look up what movies abrams actually directed and it's>m:i iiiwhich he got thanks to 2005-era tom cruise who liked alias, so thanks tom!the lowest grossing m:i movie>st09spent a lot of money to make a nice amount domestically (but actual success by then in 2009 has got to mean 300m+..)made less money ww than miiii>super 8spielberg!an actual success!>stidspent more money to make less money domestically but more worldwide than st09 (so the ww increase was hard-carried by chyna)content-wise probably caused the failure of beyond >tfaspent the most money ever spent on a movie (over half a billie) to make a buttloadsuccess! but 90-120 minutes of a literal shot of crap would have made a retarded amount in this case, so..>trosspent a bit less than tfa but still a retarded amount of money to make half of tfaso only 6 movies1 actual success1 huge sucess carried by it being star wars4 'successes' that were middling at best
>>219458038anon>tax write upsdoesn't mean anythingnice essay yet again but you clearly don't know what you're talking about
>>219453757Lost has zero cultural relevance, nobody re-watches it, zoomers dont know it.being popular at the time because of a clever marketing campaign and how television was built around blueballing and limited access doesnt mean that the show itself was good.even diehard fans admit that it got goofier with every season and that the JJ idiosyncracies of introducing mysteries and never resolving them was already blatant from the get go.because it's easter and in the spirit of jesus' grace I will admit that season1 of lost was good throughbeit
>>219431888>>219432272Real reason why this happened is because JJ Abrams attacked his own.He and his wife attacked previous CEO Kevin Tsujihara during MeToo campaign. Following CEO Ann Sarnof then rewarded him with quarter of a billion contract, but other men in the industry remember what he done and it killed his career.Don't get me wrong, Bad Robot is absolute cancer on movie industry, but their 'performance' absolutely isn't what got him blacklisted. There are plenty others who are much worse and they have no problem getting jobs. Warner Brothers just gave LotR to three failed nobodies.
>>219431888He might have done a decent job with Star Wars if someone else wrote a proper script for three films
>>219458056No, it’s you who doesn’t have a clue. WB did a tax write off on the Batgirl movie by just scrapping it and never releasing it. Which lead to like $65 million loss to WB. They did the same thing with a Scooby Doo movie and almost did it with the Acme vs Wiley Coyote movie too but that had enough people campaigning to save it and now it’s going to come up in August. These were all movies deep into post-production phase before WB under Zaslav out of nowhere decided to try and write them off instead. How the fuck do you not know this.
>>219458321you wrote>tax write upsyou complete retard
for 250 million he should have had multiple series in production every yearso>You can’t really complain they didn’t produce enoughi can
>>219432803Let's actually talk about that. Did you notice every single Amusement park ride with a story is "Uh oh, something went wrong! Hold on tight!"
>>219455296Out of the three bad ones the two he made were the ones that DIDN'T have people screaming about being "woke", though, so even that example is shit. You picked the "easiest example" and still fucked it up.
>>219431888GETWOKE
>>219458779So, what went wrong?
>>219458219I feel like fucking up the new SW movies was more than enough to get him blacklisted, even the tribe couldn't digest that fuck up.
>>219458367But it is not up to Bad Robot whether or not Warner Bros allowed something they pitched/developed to move into production and filming. And considering how last couple of years WB has been penny pinching and cutting costs everywhere it’s even less reasonable to whine they weren’t producing enough. They were fairly regularly producing content for WB and other places. They even currently have like dozen film projects in development, many of them with WB and it’s entirely up to WB to say if they want to cancel or move forward with the project. None of you people have a clue how long films can be in development because the actor they want isn’t happy or the studio can’t find a director to do it or there’s endless creative differences with the people attached or they can’t raise the money for itWe all know this whining is just about hating Abrams over his Star Wars movies. You wouldn’t give a shit if any other producer wasn’t putting out whatever arbitrary number of projects you decided was the mandatory minimum quota
even more words!
>>219459285I don't believe that. Because the chick who blew up Marvels got to make 28 Years Later. SW still made money. General feeling at Disney is that Solo is the thing that ruined the brand.
>>219431888Because he never actually created anything. His entire niche was abusing his connections to Spielberg to sell empty boxes with pretty trope packaging. It worked a few times and then it didn't.
>>219432639>>219446465>>219447089>killed Star Wars>killed Star Trek>killed LOTR>created LOST, an absolute piece of shit show with zero payoffAnd yet there are people who still defend him. Amazing.
>>219460687His acolytes did so much fucking damage to entertainment.
